Posted Jun 08, 2008 at 08:00AM by Isaac C.
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In the past few months, we've heard several groups from the video game industry give their opinions on the console war. Some of the more outspoken ones, including Electronic Arts and the President of Ready at Dawn studios, have expressed favor towards the PlayStation 3.Analysts from Lazard Capital Markets and DFC Intelligence had the same sentiments, saying that the PlayStation 3 will soon be on top in the near future. Now, analysts from the UK, Europe, and North America chime in with their own opinions, which they expressed at the Nordic Game 2008 conference. However, instead of focusing just on how big the PlayStation 3 will be in the future, they were more opinionated on the fate of the Xbox 360 and the Wii. The analysts from the conference expressed how the Xbox 360 will be in trouble in the coming year. DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole went as far as to say that "The Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done." Other analysts went on to say that the Xbox 360 is strong in the US, but is declining everywhere else. On the subject of the Wii, Swedish analyst Martin Lindell remarks that the console is in trouble if it doesn't produce a steady stream of games that please its consumers. Because its install base is composed mostly of casual gamers, people might tend to shelf the console if the "fad" feeling dies down. One analyst expressed it this way: You've got to remember there's a difference between buying and playing - the fact that you get your grandma to play the game doesn't mean she's going out to buy it. I'm still in that kind of faddish feeling about the Wii. They also talked about the PlayStation 3 of course. They noted how the console is steadily gaining on the Xbox 360, and how a loyal fanbase is another factor to its success. Nick Parker, analyst for Screen Digest, remarks that many PlayStation gamers of previous generations hold off from buying a next-gen console because they are waiting for the release of anticipated titles on the PlayStation 3. Strong opinions, yes? Still, nothing is set in stone, and we haven't heard the fat lady sing yet. We'll keep you updated on developments in the console war, but for now you can read up on what else the analysts have to say by following the link below. |
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» Keep dreaming
The 360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine.
The Wii is not a fad. Fads don't last nearing upon 2 years.
It's got plenty of people, from both casual and serious gamers behind it for varying reasons. Even if one market for it collapses, it's got more than enough to support itself for the gen as a viable console.
The PS3 thing, well, I'm not going to comment on it. I don't like the PS3 personally, so anything I said would have some bias and end up sounding antifanboyish like "Well they'd need to be loyal to buy it, it sucks" sort of thing. Though slightly more well written, and a lot less insulting. So I'll just steer clear of commenting on the PS3 bit :D
So, uh, yeah, analysts are idiots.
The 360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine.
The Wii is not a fad. Fads don't last nearing upon 2 years.
It's got plenty of people, from both casual and serious gamers behind it for varying reasons. Even if one market for it collapses, it's got more than enough to support itself for the gen as a viable console.
The PS3 thing, well, I'm not going to comment on it. I don't like the PS3 personally, so anything I said would have some bias and end up sounding antifanboyish like "Well they'd need to be loyal to buy it, it sucks" sort of thing. Though slightly more well written, and a lot less insulting. So I'll just steer clear of commenting on the PS3 bit :D
So, uh, yeah, analysts are idiots.
» Well analysts
are always idiots whenever they say something you wouldn't want to hear right???
if they said "360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine" then they wouldn't be "idiots" will they???
well they said something else... you didn't like it, so deal with it... massage your injured ego or something... cause idiots or not investors and industry players would rather listen to them and not to you.
are always idiots whenever they say something you wouldn't want to hear right???
if they said "360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine" then they wouldn't be "idiots" will they???
well they said something else... you didn't like it, so deal with it... massage your injured ego or something... cause idiots or not investors and industry players would rather listen to them and not to you.
» Charlybob
Just admit it. You know everything these analysts said is true. The Wii is a fad. Sure, many people bought it, but do you honestly think most of them really supported it in the long run? Everyone jumped on it because they wanted to go next-gen but didn't want to pay the money for a 360 or PS3. The concept "lolz! you can interact wit teh gaem wit dis remote and nunchux and lulz!!!" got pretty old for me not long after it was released. The titles are mainly meant for diehard Nintendo fans and casual gamers.
The 360 had a good (head) start but this year, they really need some help. They just don't have as many big AAA titles like they should and usually do.
The PS3 is actually making a huge comeback (they even surpassed the 360 in total sales in Europe). If anyone looks at all the upcoming titles and features later this year, you already know Sony isn't fooling around this year.
The only reason why Nintendo could actually make another console was because of it's portable systems. Do you really think the Gamecube was that successful? It was a distant third behind the PS2, and kinda distant from the Xbox. Both of those killed the GC, the only real money they had was from the GBA, the GBA SP, the Game Boy Micro, and the Nintendo DS. If it weren't for those, there probably wouldn't even be a Wii.
I'd love to hear what you had to say about the PS3 though. Just because Analysts say what you didn't want to hear doesn't mean THEY are idiots.
And don't call me a fanboy, because I'm not. I own more than just Sony systems and even if I only had Sony systems I still know what I'm talking about. What I just typed was a mixture of personal opinion and fact... And now I'll end my rant.
Just admit it. You know everything these analysts said is true. The Wii is a fad. Sure, many people bought it, but do you honestly think most of them really supported it in the long run? Everyone jumped on it because they wanted to go next-gen but didn't want to pay the money for a 360 or PS3. The concept "lolz! you can interact wit teh gaem wit dis remote and nunchux and lulz!!!" got pretty old for me not long after it was released. The titles are mainly meant for diehard Nintendo fans and casual gamers.
The 360 had a good (head) start but this year, they really need some help. They just don't have as many big AAA titles like they should and usually do.
The PS3 is actually making a huge comeback (they even surpassed the 360 in total sales in Europe). If anyone looks at all the upcoming titles and features later this year, you already know Sony isn't fooling around this year.
The only reason why Nintendo could actually make another console was because of it's portable systems. Do you really think the Gamecube was that successful? It was a distant third behind the PS2, and kinda distant from the Xbox. Both of those killed the GC, the only real money they had was from the GBA, the GBA SP, the Game Boy Micro, and the Nintendo DS. If it weren't for those, there probably wouldn't even be a Wii.
I'd love to hear what you had to say about the PS3 though. Just because Analysts say what you didn't want to hear doesn't mean THEY are idiots.
And don't call me a fanboy, because I'm not. I own more than just Sony systems and even if I only had Sony systems I still know what I'm talking about. What I just typed was a mixture of personal opinion and fact... And now I'll end my rant.
» Charlybob
There idiots because there opinions dont match yours?.....Ps3 is gaining and you haters cant stand it ..
There idiots because there opinions dont match yours?.....Ps3 is gaining and you haters cant stand it ..
» @NarooN
These are the same analysts who said the ps3 will surpass the Wii by March, 2008. These are the same guys who said the Wii fad will die down next year. The Wii isn't a FAD. I remember a few years ago when the SAME ANALYSTS CALL THE DS A FAD. They said the psp will surpass it within two years. Guess what? Never happened. I'm not saying the ps3 will sell well or not. I'm just saying these guys are idiots who get paid for nothing.
The Wii is outselling the ps2 at the same point in it's lifetime. Onto the games issue; the Wii just like the DS had mostly crap games at the start, but I definitely see that changing.
I can't really comment much on 360 yet. I have to wait until E3, but to hold off your statement where you said the ps3 outsold the 360 in total sales isn't true, as a matter of fact since the price drop in EU 360 sales doubled.
Back to the analysts for a second didn't Micheal Patcher(the so called best analyst) Say that ps3 sales for April would be roughly 100,000 higher than 360 and that the ps3 version of GTA would outsell the 360 one. Since it's a 'Playstation' game lol.
Analysts say stupid things all the time. The Wii isn't a fad and the 360 isn't in trouble yet. I like my ps3, but it's games that'll be released this year are good, but I can't say it will be it's year at all.
The 360 still could win this year in games, it's still too early to call software titles this year. Also, I see the 360 is in a good position it has a record high attach rate and it sales are sturdy. The Wii is winning is console sales and the ps3 is in between.
These are the same analysts who said the ps3 will surpass the Wii by March, 2008. These are the same guys who said the Wii fad will die down next year. The Wii isn't a FAD. I remember a few years ago when the SAME ANALYSTS CALL THE DS A FAD. They said the psp will surpass it within two years. Guess what? Never happened. I'm not saying the ps3 will sell well or not. I'm just saying these guys are idiots who get paid for nothing.
The Wii is outselling the ps2 at the same point in it's lifetime. Onto the games issue; the Wii just like the DS had mostly crap games at the start, but I definitely see that changing.
I can't really comment much on 360 yet. I have to wait until E3, but to hold off your statement where you said the ps3 outsold the 360 in total sales isn't true, as a matter of fact since the price drop in EU 360 sales doubled.
Back to the analysts for a second didn't Micheal Patcher(the so called best analyst) Say that ps3 sales for April would be roughly 100,000 higher than 360 and that the ps3 version of GTA would outsell the 360 one. Since it's a 'Playstation' game lol.
Analysts say stupid things all the time. The Wii isn't a fad and the 360 isn't in trouble yet. I like my ps3, but it's games that'll be released this year are good, but I can't say it will be it's year at all.
The 360 still could win this year in games, it's still too early to call software titles this year. Also, I see the 360 is in a good position it has a record high attach rate and it sales are sturdy. The Wii is winning is console sales and the ps3 is in between.
» WARNING!
Below these few comments are a vast series of opinionated facts. (Facts but have their own opinion attached.) Before you waste your time reading these wars (not from Quixand or NarooN so much, the other people.) I suggest you click another article cuz no one will shut up about whos on top middle or bottom in any of these comments. *sigh* dude you pick the system right for you based on games (NOT TITLES, GENRES!) and walk away, plug it in and enjoy! all this crap about ps3 not having a good game line up is all your opinions! just pick a freaking console and go play it. If you haven't already don't comment till ya do! lol jesus everytime I read all these comments they all go on and on about someone's opinion, then cover it up with fact. Just pick....play...shut off...move on. I mean dont get me wrong I dont have to read them but sheesh I'm just looking for one comment not about what people think. I know thats basically saying "why bother comment" but its not even that its the fanboynism. Im not defending any console here I'm just saying dont waste your time classifying a game console when its for your personal use only, you dont see people ranting over what computer they have. (cuz the majority runs Microsoft's Windows haha)...I just wish for some nice peaceful comments once in awhile ya know? just...something nice like "We'll see who wins" or "I LOVE MY (GAME SYSTEM)" (and no thats not fanboynism thats just your opinion and your expressing it) but then you wonder...how many of you want to hear someone elses opinion? especially one your gonna disagree with. theres no point in starting a fight with them thats the bottom line. No one is "Idiots" unless they start crap. It takes two to tango ya know? Idk just give it a break guys, all this fighting over a personal gaming console, nuff said I spent my time typing this now im gonna go enjoy the system I chose. (Now can you honestly tell me after reading that im a fanboy of a system?...no..and if so which?) why cant everrryone do that? *sigh* oh well. cant change the world, use the comment system as you'd like. BYE GUYS! :)
Below these few comments are a vast series of opinionated facts. (Facts but have their own opinion attached.) Before you waste your time reading these wars (not from Quixand or NarooN so much, the other people.) I suggest you click another article cuz no one will shut up about whos on top middle or bottom in any of these comments. *sigh* dude you pick the system right for you based on games (NOT TITLES, GENRES!) and walk away, plug it in and enjoy! all this crap about ps3 not having a good game line up is all your opinions! just pick a freaking console and go play it. If you haven't already don't comment till ya do! lol jesus everytime I read all these comments they all go on and on about someone's opinion, then cover it up with fact. Just pick....play...shut off...move on. I mean dont get me wrong I dont have to read them but sheesh I'm just looking for one comment not about what people think. I know thats basically saying "why bother comment" but its not even that its the fanboynism. Im not defending any console here I'm just saying dont waste your time classifying a game console when its for your personal use only, you dont see people ranting over what computer they have. (cuz the majority runs Microsoft's Windows haha)...I just wish for some nice peaceful comments once in awhile ya know? just...something nice like "We'll see who wins" or "I LOVE MY (GAME SYSTEM)" (and no thats not fanboynism thats just your opinion and your expressing it) but then you wonder...how many of you want to hear someone elses opinion? especially one your gonna disagree with. theres no point in starting a fight with them thats the bottom line. No one is "Idiots" unless they start crap. It takes two to tango ya know? Idk just give it a break guys, all this fighting over a personal gaming console, nuff said I spent my time typing this now im gonna go enjoy the system I chose. (Now can you honestly tell me after reading that im a fanboy of a system?...no..and if so which?) why cant everrryone do that? *sigh* oh well. cant change the world, use the comment system as you'd like. BYE GUYS! :)
» Criminy.
Pay them no heed, Charlybob. Notice how the counterarguments include such gems as, "ur just but%hurt cuz ur a fanboy lolz" and references to the GameCube, which has no standing in this discussion. Analysts are paid to run their mouths, and that's what they do. I can't stand analysts.
Pay them no heed, Charlybob. Notice how the counterarguments include such gems as, "ur just but%hurt cuz ur a fanboy lolz" and references to the GameCube, which has no standing in this discussion. Analysts are paid to run their mouths, and that's what they do. I can't stand analysts.
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Only console that is preforming under expectations is the PS3. I don't think Sony's 2008 lineup is very impressive either. 2009 will probably be a better year.
I was surprised that the Blu-Ray victory didn't push up PS3 sales at all. Even more shocking was that GTA IV didnt seem to be have the impact in hardware sales that a lot of people (including myself) had predicted. I cant see MGS4 moving much extra hardware if GTAIV couldn't.
You've got to look at the Wii and think how much of it's install base is eatting into that PS2 install base. I know quite a few people that owned a PS2 that now own a Wii. That's definately a big problem for both Sony and MS. No wonder they are both working on Wii like motion controls.
I can't see a flood of people flocking to the PS3 this year without another $100 price cut. When you have 2 very popular and successful products selling for cheaper, it's not going to be easy.
I dont think MS is in trouble. They have a lower priced entry console and have guaranteed that nearly all major third party titles will arrive on their platform. They've only had to price cut $100 vs Sony's $200. If the PS3 does start to push ahead I expect MS will finally get more aggressive with pricing.
Only console that is preforming under expectations is the PS3. I don't think Sony's 2008 lineup is very impressive either. 2009 will probably be a better year.
I was surprised that the Blu-Ray victory didn't push up PS3 sales at all. Even more shocking was that GTA IV didnt seem to be have the impact in hardware sales that a lot of people (including myself) had predicted. I cant see MGS4 moving much extra hardware if GTAIV couldn't.
You've got to look at the Wii and think how much of it's install base is eatting into that PS2 install base. I know quite a few people that owned a PS2 that now own a Wii. That's definately a big problem for both Sony and MS. No wonder they are both working on Wii like motion controls.
I can't see a flood of people flocking to the PS3 this year without another $100 price cut. When you have 2 very popular and successful products selling for cheaper, it's not going to be easy.
I dont think MS is in trouble. They have a lower priced entry console and have guaranteed that nearly all major third party titles will arrive on their platform. They've only had to price cut $100 vs Sony's $200. If the PS3 does start to push ahead I expect MS will finally get more aggressive with pricing.
» Hmm..
Actually, these analysts have a point. I really doubt Xbox is going to be third in America because it has an insane user base but, everywhere else it's SONY. The Wii is not really a fad as much as it's a cheap console that most people can afford. The only thing holding it back are lack of supply and terrible games. Either way, I'm curious to see how things play out. PS3 still has that thing called HOME which I think looks spectacular.
Actually, these analysts have a point. I really doubt Xbox is going to be third in America because it has an insane user base but, everywhere else it's SONY. The Wii is not really a fad as much as it's a cheap console that most people can afford. The only thing holding it back are lack of supply and terrible games. Either way, I'm curious to see how things play out. PS3 still has that thing called HOME which I think looks spectacular.
» true
I agree - the Wii will also always have the loyal base of Nintendo die-hards to support it...but it is highly likely that these fans will also own a 360 or a PS3 because of the lack of decent titles on the Wii....while casual gamers will always be just that - casual gamers that will probably never own more than a handful of titles for it.
As for the 360 being in trouble...well that would probably only be true if they stop signing exclusives (like Sony did with the exception of a few titles - they should have signed GTA IV as exclusive to instantly boost their position in "the war"). Just my two cents worth though
I agree - the Wii will also always have the loyal base of Nintendo die-hards to support it...but it is highly likely that these fans will also own a 360 or a PS3 because of the lack of decent titles on the Wii....while casual gamers will always be just that - casual gamers that will probably never own more than a handful of titles for it.
As for the 360 being in trouble...well that would probably only be true if they stop signing exclusives (like Sony did with the exception of a few titles - they should have signed GTA IV as exclusive to instantly boost their position in "the war"). Just my two cents worth though
» hmm I feel.
I feel that most gamers have already made their decessions about what consoles they want in this generation. I think the console war has been going on long enough this gen to give everyone a great insight to the outcome of this generation. wii on top. 360 is the middle man, and ps3 squarely on the bottom.
I think people are so caught up in this console war, that some are still prone to flights of fantasy.
the reality is, the wii is selling like hot cakes still till this day. the 360. has a lot of great games to keep it afloat.
and the ps3 while powerful and very neat. just doesnt have the game line up to apeal to.. well anyone.. :(
I say that as a ps3 owner. ive had my ps3 for about four months now. I have oblivion. heavenly sword and the simpsons game.
im not saying other people arent happy with their ps3s, hell I like my ps3 just fine. but im not so blind that im clinging on to hopes that something will come out for the ps3 that will just change the rules of this console war mid game.
im not saying this to diss the ps3. I like my ps3 and I dont care who doesnt like them, and I dont care of the ps3 is on top or not.
I'm just not dumb enough to claim the ps3 is on top just because I have one.
I feel that most gamers have already made their decessions about what consoles they want in this generation. I think the console war has been going on long enough this gen to give everyone a great insight to the outcome of this generation. wii on top. 360 is the middle man, and ps3 squarely on the bottom.
I think people are so caught up in this console war, that some are still prone to flights of fantasy.
the reality is, the wii is selling like hot cakes still till this day. the 360. has a lot of great games to keep it afloat.
and the ps3 while powerful and very neat. just doesnt have the game line up to apeal to.. well anyone.. :(
I say that as a ps3 owner. ive had my ps3 for about four months now. I have oblivion. heavenly sword and the simpsons game.
im not saying other people arent happy with their ps3s, hell I like my ps3 just fine. but im not so blind that im clinging on to hopes that something will come out for the ps3 that will just change the rules of this console war mid game.
im not saying this to diss the ps3. I like my ps3 and I dont care who doesnt like them, and I dont care of the ps3 is on top or not.
I'm just not dumb enough to claim the ps3 is on top just because I have one.
» just a suggestion.
Go on Wikipedia and look at the list of PS3 games.
If those are the only 3 games that appeal to you, then I would definitely not want to be in your shoes.
Go on Wikipedia and look at the list of PS3 games.
If those are the only 3 games that appeal to you, then I would definitely not want to be in your shoes.
» SProphet
with all due respect the PS3 has a good lineup it's just that you don't have it judging by the list of games you own... game preference is relative, to me there is only one game on the 360 that i like and that is Mass Effect, nothing more, people will say i'm crazy cause there is Gears, Bioshock, Halo, Dead Rising etc... but sorry i don't like shooters i'd rather have drake, heavenly, rachet and such... and for multiplat games like dmc4, assassins, gta4 etc i'd rather be playing them using the PS controller... so as i said game preference is relative you might say the PS3 has nothing, well for me the 360 only has Mass Effect.
i won't say you're wrong but you can't say i'm wrong either cause it's your tv, you couch, and your time and i don't have a say on that as well as you don't have a say on mine.
and nobody is claiming the PS3 is on top... what they are saying is that at the end of the day it is the 360 who might end up in last place and i quote "The Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done."... you might say that they are succombing to "flights of fantasy" well the same could be said of people who would say "the PS3 will squarely be on the bottom".
with all due respect the PS3 has a good lineup it's just that you don't have it judging by the list of games you own... game preference is relative, to me there is only one game on the 360 that i like and that is Mass Effect, nothing more, people will say i'm crazy cause there is Gears, Bioshock, Halo, Dead Rising etc... but sorry i don't like shooters i'd rather have drake, heavenly, rachet and such... and for multiplat games like dmc4, assassins, gta4 etc i'd rather be playing them using the PS controller... so as i said game preference is relative you might say the PS3 has nothing, well for me the 360 only has Mass Effect.
i won't say you're wrong but you can't say i'm wrong either cause it's your tv, you couch, and your time and i don't have a say on that as well as you don't have a say on mine.
and nobody is claiming the PS3 is on top... what they are saying is that at the end of the day it is the 360 who might end up in last place and i quote "The Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done."... you might say that they are succombing to "flights of fantasy" well the same could be said of people who would say "the PS3 will squarely be on the bottom".
» RE:Quixand
Nah I don't think 360 will ever be last. might be on second place.
Nah I don't think 360 will ever be last. might be on second place.
» soo
Wow you must be a casual gamer because if you are disregard this.NO GAMES T to apeal to any 1?... I and millions of other ppl must be nobodys MGS4 is ground breaking enough for me (you seemed to just ignore that). ppl need to understand were here 4 the long run not just for this week.
Wow you must be a casual gamer because if you are disregard this.NO GAMES T to apeal to any 1?... I and millions of other ppl must be nobodys MGS4 is ground breaking enough for me (you seemed to just ignore that). ppl need to understand were here 4 the long run not just for this week.
» @Binary
if the xbox360 cannot be third then it must 5th!
problem is the 360 is only great in USA, but in Japan Europe and every other large gaming market the xbox360 is being outsold by the PSP Wii PS3 PS2.
so if these analysts are only talking about the US market then by all means the 360 is the greatest, but i think they are just stating the facts they have gathered for the Worldwide market.
The Wii will always have a very large support from japanese gamers even if it is just for kids.
i still remember the gamecube is not that far away from ps2 here in japan.
if the xbox360 cannot be third then it must 5th!
problem is the 360 is only great in USA, but in Japan Europe and every other large gaming market the xbox360 is being outsold by the PSP Wii PS3 PS2.
so if these analysts are only talking about the US market then by all means the 360 is the greatest, but i think they are just stating the facts they have gathered for the Worldwide market.
The Wii will always have a very large support from japanese gamers even if it is just for kids.
i still remember the gamecube is not that far away from ps2 here in japan.
» @ShadeyProphet
you dont have GTAIV?
ZOMFGBBQWTFF#@*%!
you dont have GTAIV?
ZOMFGBBQWTFF#@*%!
» ...
It's funny that Sony is moving towards creating more games that Quixand doesn't like...shooters. I expect that trend to continue as Sony tries to woo the US market. Sony will be releasing more shooters this year than MS. My guess is that Quixand is an RPG fan. Well the 360 will be getting more RPG games this year and already has way more RPG games then the PS3. Isn't that totally weird, shooters for the PS3 and RPG (and action) games for the 360.
It's funny that Sony is moving towards creating more games that Quixand doesn't like...shooters. I expect that trend to continue as Sony tries to woo the US market. Sony will be releasing more shooters this year than MS. My guess is that Quixand is an RPG fan. Well the 360 will be getting more RPG games this year and already has way more RPG games then the PS3. Isn't that totally weird, shooters for the PS3 and RPG (and action) games for the 360.
» no i was going to mention that in my earlier post.
the games I own, are jusr personal preference. actually
im a very picky gamer. oblivion would have been the only game I bought if i had waited to get my ps3 untill mes4 or god of war 3 or final fantasy 13 came out.
im just saying, ninja gaiden didnt apeal to me because its the same old ninja gaiden with a face lift, drakes fortune didnt apeal to me I dont know why. something about drakes fortune just didnt apeal to me.
I was looking forward to haze, but we know how that turned out. dont get me wrong guys, in my personal opinion ther ps3 is the best console, it would be a contridiction for me to own one if I didnt think so.
I just dont think it has a strong line up. not to suit me anyway. and I dont believe its on top. is all...
the games I own, are jusr personal preference. actually
im a very picky gamer. oblivion would have been the only game I bought if i had waited to get my ps3 untill mes4 or god of war 3 or final fantasy 13 came out.
im just saying, ninja gaiden didnt apeal to me because its the same old ninja gaiden with a face lift, drakes fortune didnt apeal to me I dont know why. something about drakes fortune just didnt apeal to me.
I was looking forward to haze, but we know how that turned out. dont get me wrong guys, in my personal opinion ther ps3 is the best console, it would be a contridiction for me to own one if I didnt think so.
I just dont think it has a strong line up. not to suit me anyway. and I dont believe its on top. is all...
» point well taken
and as i said i respect your game choice... cause i myself am a picky gamer... i don't negate what people say about the 360 having good games, they're just not the sort of games i like... i'd rather play adventure/action games and even fighting games and for a gamer like me the PS3 has enough games for me to get my credit card swiped more than i'd like to... and let's be honest here the PS3 is more suited to play such games same thing as most shooter are played better on the 360... but as i said it's not my thing, in my library the least played games i have are resistance, cod4, and warhawk... and to think those games have multiplayer... i've spent more time playing and replaying and replaying again my other games like heavenly, drake, gaiden, assassins, oblivion,marvel ultimate (which makes me sad cause on the 360 it has downloadable content which is not on the ps3), dmc4, and gta4... and for sure i'll be playing mgs4 repeatedly as well regardless if i even go online or not, and everybody knows ffx13 is on the triple only... and disagree with me or not i also prefer playing sports games on the the Playsation as well.. and for future adventure games like tomb raider and prince of persia when they come out i would rather play those on a playstation too, same with fallout (only if there is a 3rd person view option if there is only 1st person then i won;t get it)... same goes for street fighter and tekken is on the PS3 only.
if fable comes out and is as good or better than mass effect then i might just buy a 360 just for those two games that is unless i don't end up getting them for my pc.
and as i said i respect your game choice... cause i myself am a picky gamer... i don't negate what people say about the 360 having good games, they're just not the sort of games i like... i'd rather play adventure/action games and even fighting games and for a gamer like me the PS3 has enough games for me to get my credit card swiped more than i'd like to... and let's be honest here the PS3 is more suited to play such games same thing as most shooter are played better on the 360... but as i said it's not my thing, in my library the least played games i have are resistance, cod4, and warhawk... and to think those games have multiplayer... i've spent more time playing and replaying and replaying again my other games like heavenly, drake, gaiden, assassins, oblivion,marvel ultimate (which makes me sad cause on the 360 it has downloadable content which is not on the ps3), dmc4, and gta4... and for sure i'll be playing mgs4 repeatedly as well regardless if i even go online or not, and everybody knows ffx13 is on the triple only... and disagree with me or not i also prefer playing sports games on the the Playsation as well.. and for future adventure games like tomb raider and prince of persia when they come out i would rather play those on a playstation too, same with fallout (only if there is a 3rd person view option if there is only 1st person then i won;t get it)... same goes for street fighter and tekken is on the PS3 only.
if fable comes out and is as good or better than mass effect then i might just buy a 360 just for those two games that is unless i don't end up getting them for my pc.
» ?
nothing appeals to you, you sound boring as hell. just be honest you a hater come on say it
nothing appeals to you, you sound boring as hell. just be honest you a hater come on say it
» @psn_gamestar
quixand is not a hater, damn even he was the one who told me but mass effect. The thing is he doesn't like shooters. Only US people like shooter more than anybody and no, he doesn't live in the US. Is about a region thing too because you will not sell a shooter to a Japanese either.
The truth is his genre of games, the only console that have that diversity and with better quality is called PS3. He love his ps3 yes, but he is not a blind fanboy either. Bioshock will come to the ps3 and I can swear he will not buy it in the ps3 and me neither.
quixand is not a hater, damn even he was the one who told me but mass effect. The thing is he doesn't like shooters. Only US people like shooter more than anybody and no, he doesn't live in the US. Is about a region thing too because you will not sell a shooter to a Japanese either.
The truth is his genre of games, the only console that have that diversity and with better quality is called PS3. He love his ps3 yes, but he is not a blind fanboy either. Bioshock will come to the ps3 and I can swear he will not buy it in the ps3 and me neither.
» @Someone_PR
you're right. it also depends in your region. like me, i grew up in asia (Philippines to be exact) and i like Jap games mostly squenix games ie: FF, chrono cross or fighting games like tekken or virtua fighter, DOA.. shooters doesn't appeal to me at all unless its a pc game like CS.. it all depends to the person whether he's/she's picky or not...
you're right. it also depends in your region. like me, i grew up in asia (Philippines to be exact) and i like Jap games mostly squenix games ie: FF, chrono cross or fighting games like tekken or virtua fighter, DOA.. shooters doesn't appeal to me at all unless its a pc game like CS.. it all depends to the person whether he's/she's picky or not...
» hmm
well the ps3 doesn't have a large list of great games at the moment. That much is true.
The thing that everyone is overlooking is the fact that the PS3 has a very large back catalog of games to remake.
Everyone knows the PS3 isn't easy to make games on (at least games that are good) so there isn't much we can do but wait, however by the end of 2008 we WILL have enough AAA games to hold us off for a while.
SOCOM, which is probably the most popular online PS2 game of all time, will be out for the PS3 around September, and we have MGS4 out in just a few more days.
Don't forget that SoulCalibur 4 is set to release sometime in 2008 as well. If you haven't noticed, those few games I just mentioned are big hits on the PS2. Now they are moving on to the PS3.
So for anyone that doesn't think the PS3 will eventually have good games...all you have to do is look back at any great/popular PS2 game, because everyone has a PS2. Any game that was really good on the PS2 will more than likely get a new addition for the PS3.
When you consider this, and compare it to what the XBOX 360 has, they don't really have a lot of old games they can update for the 360 that were really great. I don't have an XBOX or 360, but all I ever hear about is Gears of War and Halo. I'm sure there are a small bunch of other titles that the 360 has which are great games, but when I compare that to the list of great PS2 games its not even worth talking about. I know the PS3 doesn't have that many yet, but everything is starting to heat up and we are now seeing these great PS2 games come over to the PS3.
Don't forget that the PS3 (and PS2, PS1) have a wide variety of different game types, while most XBOX and 360 users mainly play a handful of shooters (by handful I mean the few ones which are the best).
I won't say everything about what I said towards the XBOX/260 is accurate, because I don't own one and pay as much attention to it, but I feel that my PS3 opinions are pretty well on the dot.
well the ps3 doesn't have a large list of great games at the moment. That much is true.
The thing that everyone is overlooking is the fact that the PS3 has a very large back catalog of games to remake.
Everyone knows the PS3 isn't easy to make games on (at least games that are good) so there isn't much we can do but wait, however by the end of 2008 we WILL have enough AAA games to hold us off for a while.
SOCOM, which is probably the most popular online PS2 game of all time, will be out for the PS3 around September, and we have MGS4 out in just a few more days.
Don't forget that SoulCalibur 4 is set to release sometime in 2008 as well. If you haven't noticed, those few games I just mentioned are big hits on the PS2. Now they are moving on to the PS3.
So for anyone that doesn't think the PS3 will eventually have good games...all you have to do is look back at any great/popular PS2 game, because everyone has a PS2. Any game that was really good on the PS2 will more than likely get a new addition for the PS3.
When you consider this, and compare it to what the XBOX 360 has, they don't really have a lot of old games they can update for the 360 that were really great. I don't have an XBOX or 360, but all I ever hear about is Gears of War and Halo. I'm sure there are a small bunch of other titles that the 360 has which are great games, but when I compare that to the list of great PS2 games its not even worth talking about. I know the PS3 doesn't have that many yet, but everything is starting to heat up and we are now seeing these great PS2 games come over to the PS3.
Don't forget that the PS3 (and PS2, PS1) have a wide variety of different game types, while most XBOX and 360 users mainly play a handful of shooters (by handful I mean the few ones which are the best).
I won't say everything about what I said towards the XBOX/260 is accurate, because I don't own one and pay as much attention to it, but I feel that my PS3 opinions are pretty well on the dot.
» My $0.10
Its obvious that PS3 will soon dominate the charts. Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. Its the only console other than PSP that has a lot of games from the franchises that sell these hardwares. Nintendo has done very well but at the same time they have failed incredibly. As far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO that matter to me. Sony has done well to have so many 3rd party titles that are also available for other consoles.
These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Megaman or Tekken. Face it, beside the price ANY system would be better than Wii. All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue. Its like disabling just the R2 button and removing circle from a ps controller. The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable. Dualshock3 will retail for $60 while a full Wiimote will have to be sold in two pieces for more than that. Unacceptable my friends. I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives. Otherwise they can only rely on the Ignorant Masses that are sold by nothing more than a commercial. Their best titles are all better on PC anyway. Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC. Comparing one to a pc leaves it in a very lame place. Every damn cord on the thing including the generic parts have been modded so to be specific to 360s only. PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!
Give up the dispute. Go PS3! If you have played any game on either competitors for over 100hrs+ then you got your money's worth. I guess the 360 and Wii arent completely wasted but.
I am a sony fanboy because they ARE the best. Not because your a freakin idiot who wasted your money on something lamer.
Its obvious that PS3 will soon dominate the charts. Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. Its the only console other than PSP that has a lot of games from the franchises that sell these hardwares. Nintendo has done very well but at the same time they have failed incredibly. As far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO that matter to me. Sony has done well to have so many 3rd party titles that are also available for other consoles.
These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Megaman or Tekken. Face it, beside the price ANY system would be better than Wii. All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue. Its like disabling just the R2 button and removing circle from a ps controller. The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable. Dualshock3 will retail for $60 while a full Wiimote will have to be sold in two pieces for more than that. Unacceptable my friends. I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives. Otherwise they can only rely on the Ignorant Masses that are sold by nothing more than a commercial. Their best titles are all better on PC anyway. Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC. Comparing one to a pc leaves it in a very lame place. Every damn cord on the thing including the generic parts have been modded so to be specific to 360s only. PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!
Give up the dispute. Go PS3! If you have played any game on either competitors for over 100hrs+ then you got your money's worth. I guess the 360 and Wii arent completely wasted but.
I am a sony fanboy because they ARE the best. Not because your a freakin idiot who wasted your money on something lamer.
» ....a very stupid fanboy.....
". Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. "
Sony is also from Japan which means the PS3 is.
"as far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO"
Since when did Nintendo make games for the PS3?
"These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear"
Umm metal gear is out its 2008 dude....do you live under a rock?
"All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue."
Most of the Wiimotes buttons arent used to play games, it does have a motion sensor and IR pointer you know?
"The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable."
This one made me laugh....Nintendo designed a controller cut it in half and sell it in two bits? lol
You dont have to buy the Nunchuck as most games make use of the Wiimote.
"I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. "
Oh its get better....
Looks like you refuse to take anything seriously and the 360 has loads of great titles.
"Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives"
Bungie, Ubisoft, Activision etc need i list more developers?
"Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC"
How on earth did u get that? have you even seen a 360? Oh i kow how you got it since Microsoft make OSs then you thought it would be a PC...yh no it isnt like a PC.
"PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!"
Yh......NO!
Better luck next time ;-) and ill give you a good site to do some reseach next time before you go making yourself look stupid again.
google youd be supised the facts you can learn from there.
". Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. "
Sony is also from Japan which means the PS3 is.
"as far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO"
Since when did Nintendo make games for the PS3?
"These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear"
Umm metal gear is out its 2008 dude....do you live under a rock?
"All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue."
Most of the Wiimotes buttons arent used to play games, it does have a motion sensor and IR pointer you know?
"The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable."
This one made me laugh....Nintendo designed a controller cut it in half and sell it in two bits? lol
You dont have to buy the Nunchuck as most games make use of the Wiimote.
"I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. "
Oh its get better....
Looks like you refuse to take anything seriously and the 360 has loads of great titles.
"Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives"
Bungie, Ubisoft, Activision etc need i list more developers?
"Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC"
How on earth did u get that? have you even seen a 360? Oh i kow how you got it since Microsoft make OSs then you thought it would be a PC...yh no it isnt like a PC.
"PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!"
Yh......NO!
Better luck next time ;-) and ill give you a good site to do some reseach next time before you go making yourself look stupid again.
google youd be supised the facts you can learn from there.
» Im an idiot?
omg im so glad you posted that your a complete idiot. what a good laugh ive never heard lamer responses in my life. i love how hard you defend the 360 it shows how young you are.
I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron.
ubisoft sucks wtf has bunjie made other than halo? nothing and halo is *****e in my opinion.
(i really hate the recharging shields) quake pwns halo in an instant. (and i dont like quake much either.)
i know when metal gear comes out. do you think anyone who bought a ps3 at launch didnt already know this? your an idiot again for assuming i didnt.
wow ya your right about the wiimotes buttons BUT that doesnt change or argue my point in any way ya moron. and you do need the nunchuck for most games. you dont NEED it to play most games but you basically DO need it to play most of them comfortably. btw six axis is also motion sensative.
360's titles are subjective to the user's interest. none of them interest me. the ones that do are out for pc. (Tecmo and now Namco titles aside) I hope you dont list anymore developers as they are NOT JAPANESE so your only clairifying my point even more! Thanks ya moron.
360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however.
How many things have you tried plugging into your ps3 usb ports? I have gotten 3 different usb hubs to work 2 different mouses 4 different ps controller converters and many different keyboards to work as well. None of which were specificly designed for PS3. so wtf do you mean they dont? that just shows your ignorance far outweighs your own information so. yh.. whaever .
if i look stupid to you you must be completely handicapped. (btw sorry if you really are)
I only refer to myself as a fan because im so happy with what ive got. Sony's consoles are the evolution of the best original consoles if you ask me. (snes and nes.) its a shame a lot of the developers i like continue to spread my faveourite franchises onto different consoles but that doesnt mean i hate them. thanks for spending so much time on your reply though.
omg im so glad you posted that your a complete idiot. what a good laugh ive never heard lamer responses in my life. i love how hard you defend the 360 it shows how young you are.
I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron.
ubisoft sucks wtf has bunjie made other than halo? nothing and halo is *****e in my opinion.
(i really hate the recharging shields) quake pwns halo in an instant. (and i dont like quake much either.)
i know when metal gear comes out. do you think anyone who bought a ps3 at launch didnt already know this? your an idiot again for assuming i didnt.
wow ya your right about the wiimotes buttons BUT that doesnt change or argue my point in any way ya moron. and you do need the nunchuck for most games. you dont NEED it to play most games but you basically DO need it to play most of them comfortably. btw six axis is also motion sensative.
360's titles are subjective to the user's interest. none of them interest me. the ones that do are out for pc. (Tecmo and now Namco titles aside) I hope you dont list anymore developers as they are NOT JAPANESE so your only clairifying my point even more! Thanks ya moron.
360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however.
How many things have you tried plugging into your ps3 usb ports? I have gotten 3 different usb hubs to work 2 different mouses 4 different ps controller converters and many different keyboards to work as well. None of which were specificly designed for PS3. so wtf do you mean they dont? that just shows your ignorance far outweighs your own information so. yh.. whaever .
if i look stupid to you you must be completely handicapped. (btw sorry if you really are)
I only refer to myself as a fan because im so happy with what ive got. Sony's consoles are the evolution of the best original consoles if you ask me. (snes and nes.) its a shame a lot of the developers i like continue to spread my faveourite franchises onto different consoles but that doesnt mean i hate them. thanks for spending so much time on your reply though.
» lol.....just made yourself look stupid..Bravo
Ok for a starters im not a fanboy i dont even have a 360 and i dont like Microsoft just your post was so stupid and full of BS that i had to reply.
I dont hate the PS3 i think its a great console and same goes for the Wii.
"I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron."
Then learn to write sentences in which people understand what the hell your trying to say, commas also help :)
I also didnt say Ubi or Bungie where great developers i jsut listed a few which make games for the system that sell!
Again make your sentences make sense...sheesh.
The only reason you would by another Nunchuck is if your original broke. Most game that have multiplayer use the Wiimote without the nunchuck!
You get a nunchuck with the Wii(another thing you can learn)
Pfft SixAxis sucks and was probably a late addon to copy Nintendo, DS3 would have been better than SA from the start. Before you go saying "OMFG!! HOW IS THE SIXAXIS CRAP OH NOES MY PS3 IS CRYING " iv played various games that use SixAxis the worst was Motorstorm was bearly usable and in other games its just "tacked" on.
Yes lets all hail Japanese dvelopers
Oh wait there are great developers other than Japanese ones.(In love with Japanese devs or something have a wierd thing for them? its ok im not judging :D )
"360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however."
Why because a company that is into the buisness of PCs make one of their other products the same? Then bt your logic i could be calling the PS3 a Portable MP3 player or TV?
OMFG WOW it can have a keyboard and mouse, even the Wii have a keyboard, again i was going by what you said "The PS3 can have anything in the USB slots"
Yes you do look very stupid to me and even if i was handcaped why the hell would that matter. If i couldnt walk would that somehow make me stupid? No...Shows how insensetive and insecure you are.
Neh your not a fanboy...most fanboys that are educated enough to make their argument based on fact. You didnt even know Sony was a Japanese company.
Oh if your calling me young, if your anything over 20 then you need to get a life, your PS3 is not your friend.
Ok for a starters im not a fanboy i dont even have a 360 and i dont like Microsoft just your post was so stupid and full of BS that i had to reply.
I dont hate the PS3 i think its a great console and same goes for the Wii.
"I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron."
Then learn to write sentences in which people understand what the hell your trying to say, commas also help :)
I also didnt say Ubi or Bungie where great developers i jsut listed a few which make games for the system that sell!
Again make your sentences make sense...sheesh.
The only reason you would by another Nunchuck is if your original broke. Most game that have multiplayer use the Wiimote without the nunchuck!
You get a nunchuck with the Wii(another thing you can learn)
Pfft SixAxis sucks and was probably a late addon to copy Nintendo, DS3 would have been better than SA from the start. Before you go saying "OMFG!! HOW IS THE SIXAXIS CRAP OH NOES MY PS3 IS CRYING " iv played various games that use SixAxis the worst was Motorstorm was bearly usable and in other games its just "tacked" on.
Yes lets all hail Japanese dvelopers
Oh wait there are great developers other than Japanese ones.(In love with Japanese devs or something have a wierd thing for them? its ok im not judging :D )
"360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however."
Why because a company that is into the buisness of PCs make one of their other products the same? Then bt your logic i could be calling the PS3 a Portable MP3 player or TV?
OMFG WOW it can have a keyboard and mouse, even the Wii have a keyboard, again i was going by what you said "The PS3 can have anything in the USB slots"
Yes you do look very stupid to me and even if i was handcaped why the hell would that matter. If i couldnt walk would that somehow make me stupid? No...Shows how insensetive and insecure you are.
Neh your not a fanboy...most fanboys that are educated enough to make their argument based on fact. You didnt even know Sony was a Japanese company.
Oh if your calling me young, if your anything over 20 then you need to get a life, your PS3 is not your friend.
» wow...
ok im just going to make this clear right now.. i own a ps3 and a wii... i like the ps3 alot, and only have 3 games on the wii because the rest don't appeal to me much... but wtf you are *****ing stupid...
point 1: video games come from japan
actually, video games originated in america with Atari being the first video game company EVER. look it up on wikipedia.
point 2:support
support of nintendo? since when has nintendo ever made a game for sony? the last time nintendo worked with sony, it was when the ps1 was supposed to be a snes add on. that, of course, got scrapped so the ps1 was launched as a stand-alone console.
point 3:wii
that neat wiimote/nunchuck is kicking everyone's ass idiot... it is revolutionary, and this is coming from an owner of the ps3 AND wii.. devs just aren't putting it to good use right now... hopefully they will because the wii has alot of potential..
point 4:wii controller
cut in half design because games on wii have so many control options... you can play with the wiimote and nunchuck, wiimote sideways, classic controller, or gamecube controller; all to match your playing style.. and the wiimote and nunchuck are sold seperately because nearly all wii games don't require the use of the nunchuck.. yea its annoying, but its called MARKETING... jeez have you ever played a wii..?
point 5:360 titles
worse titles? 360 has a great lineup. they have alot of great games, just like the ps3. where have you been? yea it is true that third party devs are what keeps 360 alive, but i mean come on.. you didn't even list the bulk of them... tecmo, capcom, EA, 2k games, rockstar, vivendi, sega, bungie, midway, treyarch... those are just a few of them... those are third party devs that make games for 360... so.. where have you been..?
point 6:360+pc
well.. i wonder.. maybe its because its made by MICROSOFT, which is a software company that makes PC SOFTWARE... sony also makes SOFTWARE.. if you didn't know, the ps3 is also like a pc... all consoles are like pcs that are made to play games... thats what they are.. so if you hate the 360 for being like the pc, then you should also hate the ps3 for being like a pc...
point 7:usb
ps3... pc... usb... hmmm.. ps3 works with usb devices... just like a.. PC!!!! so this actually coincides with point 6. amazing huh. looks like ps3 is more like a pc than 360... dumbass...
point 8: opinions..
opinions are a funny thing.. its called free will... you see, humans have free will, allowing us to all think and act differently according to events that led up to the present... you can't say that 360 owners wasted their money on the 360, because thats your opinion.. you can't say sony is the best, because that is your opinion... you can't make someone else believe in your opinion.. you can't change someone else's opinion, into your opinion.. because thats like being a DICTATOR and if you want to be a DICTATOR, go to CHINA or CUBA or any other COMMUNIST COUNTRY AND GTFO OF A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT....
its good that you stated that you are a sony fanboy, as i will admit that i favor mostly in sony's eyes.. but don't say that the 360 or wii suck.. because its obvious you have no idea what makes these consoles run... you have no idea the hardware, the processing power, and the revolutionary technology that is put into consoles.. yea i don't like the 360.. but i am planning on getting one to change my opinion of it.. there are great games for the console that i don't want to miss out on.. i could wait for a pc port, but that would take years, and i would need to spend $200+ to upgrade my pc to play the port... so i say ***** that im getting the console.. you're not a gamer... you can try to act all high and mighty all you want.. you're just some stupid kid that doesn't know ***** about business.. thats obvious...
ok im just going to make this clear right now.. i own a ps3 and a wii... i like the ps3 alot, and only have 3 games on the wii because the rest don't appeal to me much... but wtf you are *****ing stupid...
point 1: video games come from japan
actually, video games originated in america with Atari being the first video game company EVER. look it up on wikipedia.
point 2:support
support of nintendo? since when has nintendo ever made a game for sony? the last time nintendo worked with sony, it was when the ps1 was supposed to be a snes add on. that, of course, got scrapped so the ps1 was launched as a stand-alone console.
point 3:wii
that neat wiimote/nunchuck is kicking everyone's ass idiot... it is revolutionary, and this is coming from an owner of the ps3 AND wii.. devs just aren't putting it to good use right now... hopefully they will because the wii has alot of potential..
point 4:wii controller
cut in half design because games on wii have so many control options... you can play with the wiimote and nunchuck, wiimote sideways, classic controller, or gamecube controller; all to match your playing style.. and the wiimote and nunchuck are sold seperately because nearly all wii games don't require the use of the nunchuck.. yea its annoying, but its called MARKETING... jeez have you ever played a wii..?
point 5:360 titles
worse titles? 360 has a great lineup. they have alot of great games, just like the ps3. where have you been? yea it is true that third party devs are what keeps 360 alive, but i mean come on.. you didn't even list the bulk of them... tecmo, capcom, EA, 2k games, rockstar, vivendi, sega, bungie, midway, treyarch... those are just a few of them... those are third party devs that make games for 360... so.. where have you been..?
point 6:360+pc
well.. i wonder.. maybe its because its made by MICROSOFT, which is a software company that makes PC SOFTWARE... sony also makes SOFTWARE.. if you didn't know, the ps3 is also like a pc... all consoles are like pcs that are made to play games... thats what they are.. so if you hate the 360 for being like the pc, then you should also hate the ps3 for being like a pc...
point 7:usb
ps3... pc... usb... hmmm.. ps3 works with usb devices... just like a.. PC!!!! so this actually coincides with point 6. amazing huh. looks like ps3 is more like a pc than 360... dumbass...
point 8: opinions..
opinions are a funny thing.. its called free will... you see, humans have free will, allowing us to all think and act differently according to events that led up to the present... you can't say that 360 owners wasted their money on the 360, because thats your opinion.. you can't say sony is the best, because that is your opinion... you can't make someone else believe in your opinion.. you can't change someone else's opinion, into your opinion.. because thats like being a DICTATOR and if you want to be a DICTATOR, go to CHINA or CUBA or any other COMMUNIST COUNTRY AND GTFO OF A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT....
its good that you stated that you are a sony fanboy, as i will admit that i favor mostly in sony's eyes.. but don't say that the 360 or wii suck.. because its obvious you have no idea what makes these consoles run... you have no idea the hardware, the processing power, and the revolutionary technology that is put into consoles.. yea i don't like the 360.. but i am planning on getting one to change my opinion of it.. there are great games for the console that i don't want to miss out on.. i could wait for a pc port, but that would take years, and i would need to spend $200+ to upgrade my pc to play the port... so i say ***** that im getting the console.. you're not a gamer... you can try to act all high and mighty all you want.. you're just some stupid kid that doesn't know ***** about business.. thats obvious...
» Azrael_666
Thank you
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» Dude.
That was 10 cents too much.
1. If you judge your console by how many "pretty buttons" it has, you're some kind of stupid that I've never even seen before.
2. Nintendo doesn't have many 3rd party alliances because they have so many exclusive franchises in the first place, which is why people keep coming back to them for more.
3. Dude, it's Microsoft, of course they're going to make everything they produce work exclusively with their products. Get used to it and try to enjoy the games.
So yeah, get over Sony, stop trying to say they're the end-all-be-all of gaming, because they're not. Nintendo saved gaming in the 80's and Microsoft jumped in so quickly and was still a hit; so I think each company is respectable in their own right.
That was 10 cents too much.
1. If you judge your console by how many "pretty buttons" it has, you're some kind of stupid that I've never even seen before.
2. Nintendo doesn't have many 3rd party alliances because they have so many exclusive franchises in the first place, which is why people keep coming back to them for more.
3. Dude, it's Microsoft, of course they're going to make everything they produce work exclusively with their products. Get used to it and try to enjoy the games.
So yeah, get over Sony, stop trying to say they're the end-all-be-all of gaming, because they're not. Nintendo saved gaming in the 80's and Microsoft jumped in so quickly and was still a hit; so I think each company is respectable in their own right.
» Does BIH stand for *****y Ignorant and Hurtin?
my points loud and clear.
90% of american games blow. most have a half-life of one year before being replaced by a sequal. the others are usually themed on lame movies made by lame devs. us games give us mostly fps, racing and sports.
i have plugged in controller adapters and mics and mice and keyboards into the ps3. thats great and also i suppose wii are great too for doing that. wait usb on wii? theres no usb on wii is there?
ps3 runs any usb mouse and keyboard was my point.
thats pretty sweet. better than the alternatives.
talking about games 'that sell' consoles. not games 'for sale' for consoles. you were arguing that the companies i mentioned were not responsible for selling consoles and listed some more off. wtf.
360 controllers arent better than six axis in the ways i mentioned. 360 has crap dpad too.
sixaxis recharges itself. wii and 360 take batteries. maybe you still like that but i dont.
most of those wii games are still better with a nunchuck or classic controller. (yet another adaptor)
wii is dope for parties. when i see wii's ppl have 4 wiimotes and 4 chucks. probably brought by other ppl but they arent using the wiimote alone like you say they only need to BIH.
so back to my only real point, no ***** ps3 is going to dominate the charts. there is nothing better available.
if there were no one over 20 years old playing games then we wouldnt have as many decent games to play anymore. i hope i get to spend my whole life enjoying videogames.
go watch tv or somthing if your insecure with your own maturity while playing vids.
my points loud and clear.
90% of american games blow. most have a half-life of one year before being replaced by a sequal. the others are usually themed on lame movies made by lame devs. us games give us mostly fps, racing and sports.
i have plugged in controller adapters and mics and mice and keyboards into the ps3. thats great and also i suppose wii are great too for doing that. wait usb on wii? theres no usb on wii is there?
ps3 runs any usb mouse and keyboard was my point.
thats pretty sweet. better than the alternatives.
talking about games 'that sell' consoles. not games 'for sale' for consoles. you were arguing that the companies i mentioned were not responsible for selling consoles and listed some more off. wtf.
360 controllers arent better than six axis in the ways i mentioned. 360 has crap dpad too.
sixaxis recharges itself. wii and 360 take batteries. maybe you still like that but i dont.
most of those wii games are still better with a nunchuck or classic controller. (yet another adaptor)
wii is dope for parties. when i see wii's ppl have 4 wiimotes and 4 chucks. probably brought by other ppl but they arent using the wiimote alone like you say they only need to BIH.
so back to my only real point, no ***** ps3 is going to dominate the charts. there is nothing better available.
if there were no one over 20 years old playing games then we wouldnt have as many decent games to play anymore. i hope i get to spend my whole life enjoying videogames.
go watch tv or somthing if your insecure with your own maturity while playing vids.
» TY Azrael_666
Thanks for the post Azrael_666.
PS2 is a pc becasue it has a addon to run like a pc.
xbox is a pc because it carry's the same HD that's on everybody's computer. Just makes it as PC but tighter security so nobody steal games like PC games are now.
xbox360 is a pc but carrys like a laptop HD and it reads KEYBOARDS and REMOVABLE STORAGE but its just like the regular xbox but more powerful and usb ports.
PS3 is a PC and allows you to use OS so it is a pc too but not windows, just linux.
Wii, really who cares? PC possible?
Game Consoles>Morden PC Games because tighter security so nobody cant re-edit or steal a copy.
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Anyways back on topic. I got 360 but does not mean that I going to quit playing my ps2.
Thanks for the post Azrael_666.
PS2 is a pc becasue it has a addon to run like a pc.
xbox is a pc because it carry's the same HD that's on everybody's computer. Just makes it as PC but tighter security so nobody steal games like PC games are now.
xbox360 is a pc but carrys like a laptop HD and it reads KEYBOARDS and REMOVABLE STORAGE but its just like the regular xbox but more powerful and usb ports.
PS3 is a PC and allows you to use OS so it is a pc too but not windows, just linux.
Wii, really who cares? PC possible?
Game Consoles>Morden PC Games because tighter security so nobody cant re-edit or steal a copy.
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Anyways back on topic. I got 360 but does not mean that I going to quit playing my ps2.
» Why Qj?
Serisouly your posting more and more articles on "Analysts thoughts" when im pretty sure non of us give a rats ass what they think because its one persons opinion and 99% of the time they're stupid.
Second these articles are like lighter fluid for fanboys......
Be happy with the system you have and stfu. Also "xyal_zx" i think everyone will refuse to take you seriously.
Serisouly your posting more and more articles on "Analysts thoughts" when im pretty sure non of us give a rats ass what they think because its one persons opinion and 99% of the time they're stupid.
Second these articles are like lighter fluid for fanboys......
Be happy with the system you have and stfu. Also "xyal_zx" i think everyone will refuse to take you seriously.
» LOL console war!
PS3 and 360 does the same thing but different. They BOTH good consoles. Their both good for Teens and Adults
Wii is just like Gamecube. They always love being 3rd place with the same spot with Gamecube.
PS3 and 360 does the same thing but different. They BOTH good consoles. Their both good for Teens and Adults
Wii is just like Gamecube. They always love being 3rd place with the same spot with Gamecube.
» Umm
We're consumers... Save all this war for the lawyers.
The Wii is great.
360 is great.
PS3 is great.
We're consumers, as long as the developers and features please us, does it matter?
Saying the 360 is better than the PS3, is like saying Pepsi is better than Coca Cola. It is all down to our personal likes and dislikes. When it comes to them, no one is really wrong. Accept other peoples views.
We're consumers... Save all this war for the lawyers.
The Wii is great.
360 is great.
PS3 is great.
We're consumers, as long as the developers and features please us, does it matter?
Saying the 360 is better than the PS3, is like saying Pepsi is better than Coca Cola. It is all down to our personal likes and dislikes. When it comes to them, no one is really wrong. Accept other peoples views.
In the past few months, we've heard several groups from the video game industry give their opinions on the console war. Some of the more outspoken ones, 
