Posted Jun 08, 2008 at 08:00AM by Isaac C. Listed in: Opinions & Analysis Tags: David Cole, UK, Lazard Capital Markets, Colin Sebastian, Lazard Capital, Screen Digest
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Analysts: Xbox 360 in trouble, Wii is a fad, PlayStation has loyal fans - Image 1In the past few months, we've heard several groups from the video game industry give their opinions on the console war. Some of the more outspoken ones, including Electronic Arts and the President of Ready at Dawn studios, have expressed favor towards the PlayStation 3.

Analysts from Lazard Capital Markets and DFC Intelligence had the same sentiments, saying that the PlayStation 3 will soon be on top in the near future.

Now, analysts from the UK, Europe, and North America chime in with their own opinions, which they expressed at the Nordic Game 2008 conference. However, instead of focusing just on how big the PlayStation 3 will be in the future, they were more opinionated on the fate of the Xbox 360 and the Wii.

The analysts from the conference expressed how the Xbox 360 will be in trouble in the coming year. DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole went as far as to say that "The Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done." Other analysts went on to say that the Xbox 360 is strong in the US, but is declining everywhere else.

On the subject of the Wii, Swedish analyst Martin Lindell remarks that the console is in trouble if it doesn't produce a steady stream of games that please its consumers. Because its install base is composed mostly of casual gamers, people might tend to shelf the console if the "fad" feeling dies down. One analyst expressed it this way:

You've got to remember there's a difference between buying and playing - the fact that you get your grandma to play the game doesn't mean she's going out to buy it. I'm still in that kind of faddish feeling about the Wii.


They also talked about the PlayStation 3 of course. They noted how the console is steadily gaining on the Xbox 360, and how a loyal fanbase is another factor to its success. Nick Parker, analyst for Screen Digest, remarks that many PlayStation gamers of previous generations hold off from buying a next-gen console because they are waiting for the release of anticipated titles on the PlayStation 3.

Strong opinions, yes? Still, nothing is set in stone, and we haven't heard the fat lady sing yet. We'll keep you updated on developments in the console war, but for now you can read up on what else the analysts have to say by following the link below.

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   by Charlybob - 2008-06-08
 » Keep dreaming

The 360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine.

The Wii is not a fad. Fads don't last nearing upon 2 years.
It's got plenty of people, from both casual and serious gamers behind it for varying reasons. Even if one market for it collapses, it's got more than enough to support itself for the gen as a viable console.

The PS3 thing, well, I'm not going to comment on it. I don't like the PS3 personally, so anything I said would have some bias and end up sounding antifanboyish like "Well they'd need to be loyal to buy it, it sucks" sort of thing. Though slightly more well written, and a lot less insulting. So I'll just steer clear of commenting on the PS3 bit :D

So, uh, yeah, analysts are idiots.


   Re: Quixand - 2008-06-08
 » Well analysts

are always idiots whenever they say something you wouldn't want to hear right???

if they said "360 has a large enough userbase that whatever happens now this gen, it'll do fine" then they wouldn't be "idiots" will they???

well they said something else... you didn't like it, so deal with it... massage your injured ego or something... cause idiots or not investors and industry players would rather listen to them and not to you.

   Re: NarooN - 2008-06-08
 » Charlybob

Just admit it. You know everything these analysts said is true. The Wii is a fad. Sure, many people bought it, but do you honestly think most of them really supported it in the long run? Everyone jumped on it because they wanted to go next-gen but didn't want to pay the money for a 360 or PS3. The concept "lolz! you can interact wit teh gaem wit dis remote and nunchux and lulz!!!" got pretty old for me not long after it was released. The titles are mainly meant for diehard Nintendo fans and casual gamers.

The 360 had a good (head) start but this year, they really need some help. They just don't have as many big AAA titles like they should and usually do.

The PS3 is actually making a huge comeback (they even surpassed the 360 in total sales in Europe). If anyone looks at all the upcoming titles and features later this year, you already know Sony isn't fooling around this year.

The only reason why Nintendo could actually make another console was because of it's portable systems. Do you really think the Gamecube was that successful? It was a distant third behind the PS2, and kinda distant from the Xbox. Both of those killed the GC, the only real money they had was from the GBA, the GBA SP, the Game Boy Micro, and the Nintendo DS. If it weren't for those, there probably wouldn't even be a Wii.

I'd love to hear what you had to say about the PS3 though. Just because Analysts say what you didn't want to hear doesn't mean THEY are idiots.

And don't call me a fanboy, because I'm not. I own more than just Sony systems and even if I only had Sony systems I still know what I'm talking about. What I just typed was a mixture of personal opinion and fact... And now I'll end my rant.

   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-08
 » Charlybob

There idiots because there opinions dont match yours?.....Ps3 is gaining and you haters cant stand it ..

   Re: Kingofdaberbz - 2008-06-08
 » @NarooN

These are the same analysts who said the ps3 will surpass the Wii by March, 2008. These are the same guys who said the Wii fad will die down next year. The Wii isn't a FAD. I remember a few years ago when the SAME ANALYSTS CALL THE DS A FAD. They said the psp will surpass it within two years. Guess what? Never happened. I'm not saying the ps3 will sell well or not. I'm just saying these guys are idiots who get paid for nothing.

The Wii is outselling the ps2 at the same point in it's lifetime. Onto the games issue; the Wii just like the DS had mostly crap games at the start, but I definitely see that changing.

I can't really comment much on 360 yet. I have to wait until E3, but to hold off your statement where you said the ps3 outsold the 360 in total sales isn't true, as a matter of fact since the price drop in EU 360 sales doubled.

Back to the analysts for a second didn't Micheal Patcher(the so called best analyst) Say that ps3 sales for April would be roughly 100,000 higher than 360 and that the ps3 version of GTA would outsell the 360 one. Since it's a 'Playstation' game lol.

Analysts say stupid things all the time. The Wii isn't a fad and the 360 isn't in trouble yet. I like my ps3, but it's games that'll be released this year are good, but I can't say it will be it's year at all.

The 360 still could win this year in games, it's still too early to call software titles this year. Also, I see the 360 is in a good position it has a record high attach rate and it sales are sturdy. The Wii is winning is console sales and the ps3 is in between.

   Re: CheckMate0289 - 2008-06-08
 » WARNING!

Below these few comments are a vast series of opinionated facts. (Facts but have their own opinion attached.) Before you waste your time reading these wars (not from Quixand or NarooN so much, the other people.) I suggest you click another article cuz no one will shut up about whos on top middle or bottom in any of these comments. *sigh* dude you pick the system right for you based on games (NOT TITLES, GENRES!) and walk away, plug it in and enjoy! all this crap about ps3 not having a good game line up is all your opinions! just pick a freaking console and go play it. If you haven't already don't comment till ya do! lol jesus everytime I read all these comments they all go on and on about someone's opinion, then cover it up with fact. Just pick....play...shut off...move on. I mean dont get me wrong I dont have to read them but sheesh I'm just looking for one comment not about what people think. I know thats basically saying "why bother comment" but its not even that its the fanboynism. Im not defending any console here I'm just saying dont waste your time classifying a game console when its for your personal use only, you dont see people ranting over what computer they have. (cuz the majority runs Microsoft's Windows haha)...I just wish for some nice peaceful comments once in awhile ya know? just...something nice like "We'll see who wins" or "I LOVE MY (GAME SYSTEM)" (and no thats not fanboynism thats just your opinion and your expressing it) but then you wonder...how many of you want to hear someone elses opinion? especially one your gonna disagree with. theres no point in starting a fight with them thats the bottom line. No one is "Idiots" unless they start crap. It takes two to tango ya know? Idk just give it a break guys, all this fighting over a personal gaming console, nuff said I spent my time typing this now im gonna go enjoy the system I chose. (Now can you honestly tell me after reading that im a fanboy of a system?...no..and if so which?) why cant everrryone do that? *sigh* oh well. cant change the world, use the comment system as you'd like. BYE GUYS! :)

   Re: Project D - 2008-06-09
 » Criminy.

Pay them no heed, Charlybob. Notice how the counterarguments include such gems as, "ur just but%hurt cuz ur a fanboy lolz" and references to the GameCube, which has no standing in this discussion. Analysts are paid to run their mouths, and that's what they do. I can't stand analysts.

   Re: [DVSDevise] - 2008-06-09
 » ...

Only console that is preforming under expectations is the PS3. I don't think Sony's 2008 lineup is very impressive either. 2009 will probably be a better year.

I was surprised that the Blu-Ray victory didn't push up PS3 sales at all. Even more shocking was that GTA IV didnt seem to be have the impact in hardware sales that a lot of people (including myself) had predicted. I cant see MGS4 moving much extra hardware if GTAIV couldn't.

You've got to look at the Wii and think how much of it's install base is eatting into that PS2 install base. I know quite a few people that owned a PS2 that now own a Wii. That's definately a big problem for both Sony and MS. No wonder they are both working on Wii like motion controls.

I can't see a flood of people flocking to the PS3 this year without another $100 price cut. When you have 2 very popular and successful products selling for cheaper, it's not going to be easy.

I dont think MS is in trouble. They have a lower priced entry console and have guaranteed that nearly all major third party titles will arrive on their platform. They've only had to price cut $100 vs Sony's $200. If the PS3 does start to push ahead I expect MS will finally get more aggressive with pricing.
   by SHGill - 2008-06-08
 » Hmm..

Actually, these analysts have a point. I really doubt Xbox is going to be third in America because it has an insane user base but, everywhere else it's SONY. The Wii is not really a fad as much as it's a cheap console that most people can afford. The only thing holding it back are lack of supply and terrible games. Either way, I'm curious to see how things play out. PS3 still has that thing called HOME which I think looks spectacular.


   Re: trixter - 2008-06-09
 » true

I agree - the Wii will also always have the loyal base of Nintendo die-hards to support it...but it is highly likely that these fans will also own a 360 or a PS3 because of the lack of decent titles on the Wii....while casual gamers will always be just that - casual gamers that will probably never own more than a handful of titles for it.


As for the 360 being in trouble...well that would probably only be true if they stop signing exclusives (like Sony did with the exception of a few titles - they should have signed GTA IV as exclusive to instantly boost their position in "the war"). Just my two cents worth though
   by ShadeyProphet - 2008-06-08
 » hmm I feel.

I feel that most gamers have already made their decessions about what consoles they want in this generation. I think the console war has been going on long enough this gen to give everyone a great insight to the outcome of this generation. wii on top. 360 is the middle man, and ps3 squarely on the bottom.

I think people are so caught up in this console war, that some are still prone to flights of fantasy.

the reality is, the wii is selling like hot cakes still till this day. the 360. has a lot of great games to keep it afloat.

and the ps3 while powerful and very neat. just doesnt have the game line up to apeal to.. well anyone.. :(

I say that as a ps3 owner. ive had my ps3 for about four months now. I have oblivion. heavenly sword and the simpsons game.

im not saying other people arent happy with their ps3s, hell I like my ps3 just fine. but im not so blind that im clinging on to hopes that something will come out for the ps3 that will just change the rules of this console war mid game.

im not saying this to diss the ps3. I like my ps3 and I dont care who doesnt like them, and I dont care of the ps3 is on top or not.

I'm just not dumb enough to claim the ps3 is on top just because I have one.


   Re: NarooN - 2008-06-08
 » just a suggestion.

Go on Wikipedia and look at the list of PS3 games.

If those are the only 3 games that appeal to you, then I would definitely not want to be in your shoes.

   Re: Quixand - 2008-06-08
 » SProphet

with all due respect the PS3 has a good lineup it's just that you don't have it judging by the list of games you own... game preference is relative, to me there is only one game on the 360 that i like and that is Mass Effect, nothing more, people will say i'm crazy cause there is Gears, Bioshock, Halo, Dead Rising etc... but sorry i don't like shooters i'd rather have drake, heavenly, rachet and such... and for multiplat games like dmc4, assassins, gta4 etc i'd rather be playing them using the PS controller... so as i said game preference is relative you might say the PS3 has nothing, well for me the 360 only has Mass Effect.

i won't say you're wrong but you can't say i'm wrong either cause it's your tv, you couch, and your time and i don't have a say on that as well as you don't have a say on mine.

and nobody is claiming the PS3 is on top... what they are saying is that at the end of the day it is the 360 who might end up in last place and i quote "The Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done."... you might say that they are succombing to "flights of fantasy" well the same could be said of people who would say "the PS3 will squarely be on the bottom".

   Re: Binary - 2008-06-08
 » RE:Quixand

Nah I don't think 360 will ever be last. might be on second place.

   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-08
 » soo

Wow you must be a casual gamer because if you are disregard this.NO GAMES T to apeal to any 1?... I and millions of other ppl must be nobodys MGS4 is ground breaking enough for me (you seemed to just ignore that). ppl need to understand were here 4 the long run not just for this week.

   Re: xche78x - 2008-06-09
 » @Binary

if the xbox360 cannot be third then it must 5th!
problem is the 360 is only great in USA, but in Japan Europe and every other large gaming market the xbox360 is being outsold by the PSP Wii PS3 PS2.
so if these analysts are only talking about the US market then by all means the 360 is the greatest, but i think they are just stating the facts they have gathered for the Worldwide market.
The Wii will always have a very large support from japanese gamers even if it is just for kids.
i still remember the gamecube is not that far away from ps2 here in japan.

   Re: na2rul - 2008-06-09
 » @ShadeyProphet

you dont have GTAIV?

ZOMFGBBQWTFF#@*%!

   Re: [DVSDevise] - 2008-06-09
 » ...

It's funny that Sony is moving towards creating more games that Quixand doesn't like...shooters. I expect that trend to continue as Sony tries to woo the US market. Sony will be releasing more shooters this year than MS. My guess is that Quixand is an RPG fan. Well the 360 will be getting more RPG games this year and already has way more RPG games then the PS3. Isn't that totally weird, shooters for the PS3 and RPG (and action) games for the 360.
   by ShadeyProphet - 2008-06-08
 » no i was going to mention that in my earlier post.

the games I own, are jusr personal preference. actually
im a very picky gamer. oblivion would have been the only game I bought if i had waited to get my ps3 untill mes4 or god of war 3 or final fantasy 13 came out.

im just saying, ninja gaiden didnt apeal to me because its the same old ninja gaiden with a face lift, drakes fortune didnt apeal to me I dont know why. something about drakes fortune just didnt apeal to me.

I was looking forward to haze, but we know how that turned out. dont get me wrong guys, in my personal opinion ther ps3 is the best console, it would be a contridiction for me to own one if I didnt think so.

I just dont think it has a strong line up. not to suit me anyway. and I dont believe its on top. is all...


   Re: Quixand - 2008-06-08
 » point well taken

and as i said i respect your game choice... cause i myself am a picky gamer... i don't negate what people say about the 360 having good games, they're just not the sort of games i like... i'd rather play adventure/action games and even fighting games and for a gamer like me the PS3 has enough games for me to get my credit card swiped more than i'd like to... and let's be honest here the PS3 is more suited to play such games same thing as most shooter are played better on the 360... but as i said it's not my thing, in my library the least played games i have are resistance, cod4, and warhawk... and to think those games have multiplayer... i've spent more time playing and replaying and replaying again my other games like heavenly, drake, gaiden, assassins, oblivion,marvel ultimate (which makes me sad cause on the 360 it has downloadable content which is not on the ps3), dmc4, and gta4... and for sure i'll be playing mgs4 repeatedly as well regardless if i even go online or not, and everybody knows ffx13 is on the triple only... and disagree with me or not i also prefer playing sports games on the the Playsation as well.. and for future adventure games like tomb raider and prince of persia when they come out i would rather play those on a playstation too, same with fallout (only if there is a 3rd person view option if there is only 1st person then i won;t get it)... same goes for street fighter and tekken is on the PS3 only.

if fable comes out and is as good or better than mass effect then i might just buy a 360 just for those two games that is unless i don't end up getting them for my pc.

   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-08
 » ?

nothing appeals to you, you sound boring as hell. just be honest you a hater come on say it

   Re: Someone_PR - 2008-06-08
 » @psn_gamestar

quixand is not a hater, damn even he was the one who told me but mass effect. The thing is he doesn't like shooters. Only US people like shooter more than anybody and no, he doesn't live in the US. Is about a region thing too because you will not sell a shooter to a Japanese either.

The truth is his genre of games, the only console that have that diversity and with better quality is called PS3. He love his ps3 yes, but he is not a blind fanboy either. Bioshock will come to the ps3 and I can swear he will not buy it in the ps3 and me neither.

   Re: Clixt - 2008-06-09
 » @Someone_PR

you're right. it also depends in your region. like me, i grew up in asia (Philippines to be exact) and i like Jap games mostly squenix games ie: FF, chrono cross or fighting games like tekken or virtua fighter, DOA.. shooters doesn't appeal to me at all unless its a pc game like CS.. it all depends to the person whether he's/she's picky or not...
   by DementedSoul - 2008-06-08
 » hmm

well the ps3 doesn't have a large list of great games at the moment. That much is true.

The thing that everyone is overlooking is the fact that the PS3 has a very large back catalog of games to remake.

Everyone knows the PS3 isn't easy to make games on (at least games that are good) so there isn't much we can do but wait, however by the end of 2008 we WILL have enough AAA games to hold us off for a while.

SOCOM, which is probably the most popular online PS2 game of all time, will be out for the PS3 around September, and we have MGS4 out in just a few more days.

Don't forget that SoulCalibur 4 is set to release sometime in 2008 as well. If you haven't noticed, those few games I just mentioned are big hits on the PS2. Now they are moving on to the PS3.

So for anyone that doesn't think the PS3 will eventually have good games...all you have to do is look back at any great/popular PS2 game, because everyone has a PS2. Any game that was really good on the PS2 will more than likely get a new addition for the PS3.

When you consider this, and compare it to what the XBOX 360 has, they don't really have a lot of old games they can update for the 360 that were really great. I don't have an XBOX or 360, but all I ever hear about is Gears of War and Halo. I'm sure there are a small bunch of other titles that the 360 has which are great games, but when I compare that to the list of great PS2 games its not even worth talking about. I know the PS3 doesn't have that many yet, but everything is starting to heat up and we are now seeing these great PS2 games come over to the PS3.

Don't forget that the PS3 (and PS2, PS1) have a wide variety of different game types, while most XBOX and 360 users mainly play a handful of shooters (by handful I mean the few ones which are the best).

I won't say everything about what I said towards the XBOX/260 is accurate, because I don't own one and pay as much attention to it, but I feel that my PS3 opinions are pretty well on the dot.

   by xyal_zx - 2008-06-08
 » My $0.10

Its obvious that PS3 will soon dominate the charts. Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. Its the only console other than PSP that has a lot of games from the franchises that sell these hardwares. Nintendo has done very well but at the same time they have failed incredibly. As far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO that matter to me. Sony has done well to have so many 3rd party titles that are also available for other consoles.

These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Megaman or Tekken. Face it, beside the price ANY system would be better than Wii. All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue. Its like disabling just the R2 button and removing circle from a ps controller. The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable. Dualshock3 will retail for $60 while a full Wiimote will have to be sold in two pieces for more than that. Unacceptable my friends. I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives. Otherwise they can only rely on the Ignorant Masses that are sold by nothing more than a commercial. Their best titles are all better on PC anyway. Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC. Comparing one to a pc leaves it in a very lame place. Every damn cord on the thing including the generic parts have been modded so to be specific to 360s only. PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!

Give up the dispute. Go PS3! If you have played any game on either competitors for over 100hrs+ then you got your money's worth. I guess the 360 and Wii arent completely wasted but.

I am a sony fanboy because they ARE the best. Not because your a freakin idiot who wasted your money on something lamer.


   Re: BIH - 2008-06-08
 » ....a very stupid fanboy.....



". Video games come from Japan. Thats why WII is doing so well. "
Sony is also from Japan which means the PS3 is.

"as far as I am concerned, its not the popularity of the system that I am concerned about its the support of CAPCOM, SQUARE-ENIX, KONAMI, NAMCO and NINTENDO"

Since when did Nintendo make games for the PS3?

"These give those die hards that want the system before its ready a chance to enjoy them while waiting for Japan to get their act together and produce some Metal Gear"

Umm metal gear is out its 2008 dude....do you live under a rock?

"All Wii has is that neat Wiimote/ Nunchuck. At the same time it is also a failure since as a remote control it has a considerable less amount of buttons and as a gamepad it suffers from the same issue."

Most of the Wiimotes buttons arent used to play games, it does have a motion sensor and IR pointer you know?

"The cut in half design is neat as heck but the fact it is considered two controllers is completely unacceptable."

This one made me laugh....Nintendo designed a controller cut it in half and sell it in two bits? lol
You dont have to buy the Nunchuck as most games make use of the Wiimote.


"I refuse to take the 360 seriously as they have the worst titles. "
Oh its get better....
Looks like you refuse to take anything seriously and the 360 has loads of great titles.

"Tecmo and Capcom are the only reason that system survives"
Bungie, Ubisoft, Activision etc need i list more developers?


"Worst thing about 360 is its similarities to a PC"
How on earth did u get that? have you even seen a 360? Oh i kow how you got it since Microsoft make OSs then you thought it would be a PC...yh no it isnt like a PC.

"PS3 Will work with almost anything you plug into those sweet USB ports!"
Yh......NO!

Better luck next time ;-) and ill give you a good site to do some reseach next time before you go making yourself look stupid again.
google youd be supised the facts you can learn from there.

   Re: xyal_zx - 2008-06-08
 » Im an idiot?

omg im so glad you posted that your a complete idiot. what a good laugh ive never heard lamer responses in my life. i love how hard you defend the 360 it shows how young you are.

I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron.

ubisoft sucks wtf has bunjie made other than halo? nothing and halo is *****e in my opinion.
(i really hate the recharging shields) quake pwns halo in an instant. (and i dont like quake much either.)

i know when metal gear comes out. do you think anyone who bought a ps3 at launch didnt already know this? your an idiot again for assuming i didnt.

wow ya your right about the wiimotes buttons BUT that doesnt change or argue my point in any way ya moron. and you do need the nunchuck for most games. you dont NEED it to play most games but you basically DO need it to play most of them comfortably. btw six axis is also motion sensative.

360's titles are subjective to the user's interest. none of them interest me. the ones that do are out for pc. (Tecmo and now Namco titles aside) I hope you dont list anymore developers as they are NOT JAPANESE so your only clairifying my point even more! Thanks ya moron.

360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however.

How many things have you tried plugging into your ps3 usb ports? I have gotten 3 different usb hubs to work 2 different mouses 4 different ps controller converters and many different keyboards to work as well. None of which were specificly designed for PS3. so wtf do you mean they dont? that just shows your ignorance far outweighs your own information so. yh.. whaever .

if i look stupid to you you must be completely handicapped. (btw sorry if you really are)

I only refer to myself as a fan because im so happy with what ive got. Sony's consoles are the evolution of the best original consoles if you ask me. (snes and nes.) its a shame a lot of the developers i like continue to spread my faveourite franchises onto different consoles but that doesnt mean i hate them. thanks for spending so much time on your reply though.

   Re: BIH - 2008-06-08
 » lol.....just made yourself look stupid..Bravo

Ok for a starters im not a fanboy i dont even have a 360 and i dont like Microsoft just your post was so stupid and full of BS that i had to reply.
I dont hate the PS3 i think its a great console and same goes for the Wii.

"I never said ps3 played nintendo games, just that that company's games sell consoles. DOES NINTENDO AMERICA MAKE THOSE GAMES? NO. moron."
Then learn to write sentences in which people understand what the hell your trying to say, commas also help :)

I also didnt say Ubi or Bungie where great developers i jsut listed a few which make games for the system that sell!

Again make your sentences make sense...sheesh.


The only reason you would by another Nunchuck is if your original broke. Most game that have multiplayer use the Wiimote without the nunchuck!
You get a nunchuck with the Wii(another thing you can learn)
Pfft SixAxis sucks and was probably a late addon to copy Nintendo, DS3 would have been better than SA from the start. Before you go saying "OMFG!! HOW IS THE SIXAXIS CRAP OH NOES MY PS3 IS CRYING " iv played various games that use SixAxis the worst was Motorstorm was bearly usable and in other games its just "tacked" on.

Yes lets all hail Japanese dvelopers
Oh wait there are great developers other than Japanese ones.(In love with Japanese devs or something have a wierd thing for them? its ok im not judging :D )


"360 tries to be like pc in many ways. ms is one of MANY good examples. thanks for giving me another. i was refering to the genres and system abilities however."
Why because a company that is into the buisness of PCs make one of their other products the same? Then bt your logic i could be calling the PS3 a Portable MP3 player or TV?

OMFG WOW it can have a keyboard and mouse, even the Wii have a keyboard, again i was going by what you said "The PS3 can have anything in the USB slots"

Yes you do look very stupid to me and even if i was handcaped why the hell would that matter. If i couldnt walk would that somehow make me stupid? No...Shows how insensetive and insecure you are.


Neh your not a fanboy...most fanboys that are educated enough to make their argument based on fact. You didnt even know Sony was a Japanese company.
Oh if your calling me young, if your anything over 20 then you need to get a life, your PS3 is not your friend.

   Re: Azrael_666 - 2008-06-08
 » wow...

ok im just going to make this clear right now.. i own a ps3 and a wii... i like the ps3 alot, and only have 3 games on the wii because the rest don't appeal to me much... but wtf you are *****ing stupid...

point 1: video games come from japan
actually, video games originated in america with Atari being the first video game company EVER. look it up on wikipedia.

point 2:support
support of nintendo? since when has nintendo ever made a game for sony? the last time nintendo worked with sony, it was when the ps1 was supposed to be a snes add on. that, of course, got scrapped so the ps1 was launched as a stand-alone console.

point 3:wii
that neat wiimote/nunchuck is kicking everyone's ass idiot... it is revolutionary, and this is coming from an owner of the ps3 AND wii.. devs just aren't putting it to good use right now... hopefully they will because the wii has alot of potential..

point 4:wii controller
cut in half design because games on wii have so many control options... you can play with the wiimote and nunchuck, wiimote sideways, classic controller, or gamecube controller; all to match your playing style.. and the wiimote and nunchuck are sold seperately because nearly all wii games don't require the use of the nunchuck.. yea its annoying, but its called MARKETING... jeez have you ever played a wii..?

point 5:360 titles
worse titles? 360 has a great lineup. they have alot of great games, just like the ps3. where have you been? yea it is true that third party devs are what keeps 360 alive, but i mean come on.. you didn't even list the bulk of them... tecmo, capcom, EA, 2k games, rockstar, vivendi, sega, bungie, midway, treyarch... those are just a few of them... those are third party devs that make games for 360... so.. where have you been..?

point 6:360+pc
well.. i wonder.. maybe its because its made by MICROSOFT, which is a software company that makes PC SOFTWARE... sony also makes SOFTWARE.. if you didn't know, the ps3 is also like a pc... all consoles are like pcs that are made to play games... thats what they are.. so if you hate the 360 for being like the pc, then you should also hate the ps3 for being like a pc...

point 7:usb
ps3... pc... usb... hmmm.. ps3 works with usb devices... just like a.. PC!!!! so this actually coincides with point 6. amazing huh. looks like ps3 is more like a pc than 360... dumbass...

point 8: opinions..
opinions are a funny thing.. its called free will... you see, humans have free will, allowing us to all think and act differently according to events that led up to the present... you can't say that 360 owners wasted their money on the 360, because thats your opinion.. you can't say sony is the best, because that is your opinion... you can't make someone else believe in your opinion.. you can't change someone else's opinion, into your opinion.. because thats like being a DICTATOR and if you want to be a DICTATOR, go to CHINA or CUBA or any other COMMUNIST COUNTRY AND GTFO OF A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT....

its good that you stated that you are a sony fanboy, as i will admit that i favor mostly in sony's eyes.. but don't say that the 360 or wii suck.. because its obvious you have no idea what makes these consoles run... you have no idea the hardware, the processing power, and the revolutionary technology that is put into consoles.. yea i don't like the 360.. but i am planning on getting one to change my opinion of it.. there are great games for the console that i don't want to miss out on.. i could wait for a pc port, but that would take years, and i would need to spend $200+ to upgrade my pc to play the port... so i say ***** that im getting the console.. you're not a gamer... you can try to act all high and mighty all you want.. you're just some stupid kid that doesn't know ***** about business.. thats obvious...

   Re: BIH - 2008-06-08
 » Azrael_666

Thank you

   Re: JeimuzuWii - 2008-06-09
 » Dude.

That was 10 cents too much.

1. If you judge your console by how many "pretty buttons" it has, you're some kind of stupid that I've never even seen before.

2. Nintendo doesn't have many 3rd party alliances because they have so many exclusive franchises in the first place, which is why people keep coming back to them for more.

3. Dude, it's Microsoft, of course they're going to make everything they produce work exclusively with their products. Get used to it and try to enjoy the games.

So yeah, get over Sony, stop trying to say they're the end-all-be-all of gaming, because they're not. Nintendo saved gaming in the 80's and Microsoft jumped in so quickly and was still a hit; so I think each company is respectable in their own right.

   Re: xyal_zx - 2008-06-10
 » Does BIH stand for *****y Ignorant and Hurtin?

my points loud and clear.

90% of american games blow. most have a half-life of one year before being replaced by a sequal. the others are usually themed on lame movies made by lame devs. us games give us mostly fps, racing and sports.

i have plugged in controller adapters and mics and mice and keyboards into the ps3. thats great and also i suppose wii are great too for doing that. wait usb on wii? theres no usb on wii is there?

ps3 runs any usb mouse and keyboard was my point.
thats pretty sweet. better than the alternatives.

talking about games 'that sell' consoles. not games 'for sale' for consoles. you were arguing that the companies i mentioned were not responsible for selling consoles and listed some more off. wtf.

360 controllers arent better than six axis in the ways i mentioned. 360 has crap dpad too.
sixaxis recharges itself. wii and 360 take batteries. maybe you still like that but i dont.

most of those wii games are still better with a nunchuck or classic controller. (yet another adaptor)
wii is dope for parties. when i see wii's ppl have 4 wiimotes and 4 chucks. probably brought by other ppl but they arent using the wiimote alone like you say they only need to BIH.

so back to my only real point, no ***** ps3 is going to dominate the charts. there is nothing better available.

if there were no one over 20 years old playing games then we wouldnt have as many decent games to play anymore. i hope i get to spend my whole life enjoying videogames.

go watch tv or somthing if your insecure with your own maturity while playing vids.

   Re: Binary - 2008-06-11
 » TY Azrael_666

Thanks for the post Azrael_666.



PS2 is a pc becasue it has a addon to run like a pc.

xbox is a pc because it carry's the same HD that's on everybody's computer. Just makes it as PC but tighter security so nobody steal games like PC games are now.

xbox360 is a pc but carrys like a laptop HD and it reads KEYBOARDS and REMOVABLE STORAGE but its just like the regular xbox but more powerful and usb ports.

PS3 is a PC and allows you to use OS so it is a pc too but not windows, just linux.

Wii, really who cares? PC possible?

Game Consoles>Morden PC Games because tighter security so nobody cant re-edit or steal a copy.

---
Anyways back on topic. I got 360 but does not mean that I going to quit playing my ps2.


   by BIH - 2008-06-08
 » Why Qj?

Serisouly your posting more and more articles on "Analysts thoughts" when im pretty sure non of us give a rats ass what they think because its one persons opinion and 99% of the time they're stupid.

Second these articles are like lighter fluid for fanboys......
Be happy with the system you have and stfu. Also "xyal_zx" i think everyone will refuse to take you seriously.

   by Binary - 2008-06-08
 » LOL console war!

PS3 and 360 does the same thing but different. They BOTH good consoles. Their both good for Teens and Adults

Wii is just like Gamecube. They always love being 3rd place with the same spot with Gamecube.

   by Alistar - 2008-06-08
 » Umm

We're consumers... Save all this war for the lawyers.

The Wii is great.
360 is great.
PS3 is great.

We're consumers, as long as the developers and features please us, does it matter?

Saying the 360 is better than the PS3, is like saying Pepsi is better than Coca Cola. It is all down to our personal likes and dislikes. When it comes to them, no one is really wrong. Accept other peoples views.


   Re: Binary - 2008-06-08
 » I turly Agree

All this crap is like saying PESPI THE *****! and COKE THE BEST RC IS GOOD.

Save your typing, Do they all games? of course! Really to me I don't care if I own a 10 year game system as long as it gets me unbored.
   by ShadeyProphet - 2008-06-08
 » well

about the 360. you guys will want to string me up and hang me for this.

but im sorry, when people spend good money on a console there should be no fear of a red ring. "one especaly a hard core gamer shouldnt have to worry if they are playing their console for too long, that they may fry it''

I did own two 360's the first one red ringed after four months. then I took that one back. and shelled out extra money for an elite unit, which red ringed shortly after I bought it.. maybe it was faulty wireing in my home. maybe it was something that was my fault, but none of my other consoles ever fried like that,, :(

I loved the 360. the way the console preformed. the games it had.

And i know I could have just sent them into microsoft to get them fixed. it's nice that microsoft fixes them for free.

but look it at from another angle. if you go to a burger joint. and they serve you a burger that has clearly been droped in the floor with dirt all over it. do you send it back. or leave the burger joint :(

again this is just my opinion, and my experiences i had with the 360.


   Re: na2rul - 2008-06-09
 » it depends

im sure people will have sympathy and im damn right sure people will learn from mistakes
   by June - 2008-06-08
 » The 360 Has No AAA Titles this year???

Are you serious? Banjo Kazooie, Gears 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Too Human, Halo Wars, all of which are exclusive titles, then titles like Alone in the Dark, Saints Row 2 which the first was exclusive, come on, the 360 is good this year and some even consider this year's line up better then last years, GTA 4 and it's exclusive episodic content which will add more hours of game play need I say more?

While it is true I do not see the 360 coming in first and the PS3 will take the lead againist the 360, I see the same results as the last gen console, Nintendo in third, Sony First and Microsoft in second, the PS3 has the hardware to ensure it's longevity as a console for many more years to come, the 360 how ever will soon be releasing every major title on multiple disc or risk keeping content out to ship on one, the wii is not only a fad but an over clocked gamecube with motion sensing remotes, it has no major titles other than the first party titles only die hard nintendo fans seek.


   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-08
 » fair

im a sony fan and i agree with you man

   Re: na2rul - 2008-06-09
 » not sure about your analysis on the Wii

i think its safe to say the Wii has its name printed on 1 all over.

And multiplatform games will keep ps3 and 360 level with each other

   Re: Blad3 - 2008-06-09
 » ....

im sure this idiot will still be calling the wii a fad even though it will still be selling well 2 years from now.
   by psn_gamestar - 2008-06-08
 » last year 4 wii

i think this is wiis last big year in that the wii wont be relevant anymore. Theres like no games even coming out this year for it thats not a mullplatform title (that will be a bs version of the ps3/360 versions) and movie tie in's. SSBB, wiikart is already out wat else is there ?? honestly why to ppl ignore this? nintendo gives you guys 2 games a year and thats it..Some times there almost exactly the same game (wii mkart) youve been playing for 10 plus years I use to be a hardcore nintendo fan but im done with there casual bs. I love zelda but IT cant evolve it any further on the wii.ill wait to see wat the'll do next round the wii sux im sorry really i am


   Re: Steven777 - 2008-06-08
 » Agreed

I own a Wii as well and most the games that I have for it are first party. I have only a couple games which are made from third parties. Resident Evil 4, which I have for my PS2, and Soul Calibur Legends which was a bad game. I still consider Resident Evil 4 to be better for the PS2 than the Wii only because I don't like pointing at the tv. The Wii is only for the Casual fans and the small hardcore nintendo fanbase. Casual games will reign supreme on that system for it's entire cycle only because many hardcore games have done horribly.

Heres a link to show you how the sales have been for Wii games, you'll see what I am talking about when you see it:

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name+
+console+Wii+developer++publisher
++genre++keyword++order+Sales

   Re: Steven777 - 2008-06-08
 » Edit

Change the plus signs to equal signs. When I copied over the link and pasted they were changed.

   Re: JeimuzuWii - 2008-06-09
 » You should be sorry.

I seem to remember games like Star Fox, Pikmin, F-Zero not being released yet. Bam. I'm pretty much 99% sure that you've not played a Wii in depth, so until you do, shut your whore mouth when me are talking. (
   by Kingofdaberbz - 2008-06-08
 » LOL

It's funny how some say. Go to Wikipedia! It shows the ps3 awesome games! Yet, I know for a fact most of those games will be released between 2010-2011 and the rest will be canceled like 8 days and Getaway.

We just can't say which game will have the best lineup this year(wait until E3) or the next. Every Sony fanboy said 2007 will be the ps3 year it'll kill the Wii and 360, but it didn't. I probably expect the ps3 to outsell the 360 at some point, but it will never touch the Wii.

I like all the consoles and own them all, but claiming one console will be in trouble,etc. Is just too funny. We don't even know what games Nintendo will release in the Fall, or even know what's MS game plan either. New IPs, price drops? New controller? etc.

I can't make any early predictions, but I do know the Wii will the console war and the 360 will win in software sales.

   by DigiTalDeaD - 2008-06-08
 » Well

I have a PS3 and a Wii, i haven't played my wii since i got my PS3, and everybody i know who own's a wii never really owned any kind of console before then, so i reckon the wii is a non-serious "just for a bit of fun" console. I really don't see why people give these analysts any attention, people think they can see into the future, they're just making educated (or not) guesses using financial information. At the end of the day, who cares, let's all have fun doing whatever we like to do.


   Re: GuiltyGFan - 2008-06-08
 » Exaclty

I agree.....Thou I only have a wii and ps2 at the moment (still debating on either a 360 or ps3) I really dont see a point in arguing. Wii is based on casual gamers in mind there are a few hardcore games for it (and not talking about nintendo games that are on every system like super mario) that make it fun to play without those stupid party games. As for the xbox and ps3 they basically have the same games (i.e condemned 2, lost planet, street fighter 4) with a few exceptions like mgs4 and halo 3 of course... its all about what games your into....plus no offense to ps3 but these analysts really seem more ps3 based than any of the other consoles

   Re: Project D - 2008-06-09
 » Well...

Personally, I bought my Wii after a very long string of game consoles, starting with the Atari 2600. I've owned every generation of console since with few exceptions. And I was still excited about the Wii and what it brought to the table.
   by matster101 - 2008-06-09
 » interesting analysis

this is my opinion xbox 360 on top wii in trouble ps3's heinman hasn't been broken. The 360 is an excellent system with a huge library of games that are great. excellent online system. But horrible hardware failure rates. The wii is just a gimmick with a small library of pretty bad games. The ps3 has a small library with a few exclusives making you want to own the system. Sure bluray is great but when a game comes out usually the xbox version looks and runs better visually and online. But it doesn't matter what I think the wii is still a hot ticket running strong. the xbox has a huge install base in the u.s. and europe but not so much in japan. The ps3 is steadily rising and their loyal gamers in the u.s. and japan will definitely keep them running strong

   by Geosondaman - 2008-06-09
 » In the end, we all win

It doesn't really matter who comes out on top this gen. It is all the same. This gen is completely different from last gen...we all know how badly Nintendo did in the console realm last gen, so I will skip past this bit. In this gen, Wii is outselling every other console in almost every region. What saved Nintendo last gen, is as someone said before, the DS and Game Boy. In this gen, the DS is still going strong and the Wii, without a doubt, still selling like hotcakes everywhere. The 360 is, for the most part, selling like hotcakes in the US region, somewhat in the European market but not as much as PS3 for sure. Europeans did flock over for the 360 because of the price cut, however I can bet that Europeans still prefer the PS brand because of loyalty. In the end, I would say all three of the consoles will do decently. If you absolutely have to differentiate them by ranks, I think it won't work as well. Since all three of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Wii appeals to the casual gamers, 360 to the hardcore shooters-centric gamers, and PS3 for diversity. The PS3 really has the most diverse lineup of games. It may seem that there are nothing good out there right now, but more are coming. On the shooters front: Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM, and i guess MGS4 (though it's more of a stealth/espionage game) For RPGs, there are a few good ones like Final Fantasy XIII, Tales of series, FFVersusXIII, and maybe an FFVII remake.

All in all, there is no clear winner this gen, all three will do well in their own rights.

   by izkjon - 2008-06-09
 » And the Winner is, PS3.

It was just a matter of time ,before this would happened.
Wii sucks, big time.
360 is ok.
But I've always been a Playstation fan, from Playstation One too the PS3, and the PSP off course.


   Re: JeimuzuWii - 2008-06-09
 » .

I guess that's why the PS3 is in last place in terms of sales, then, right? Burn.

   Re: death - 2008-06-24
 » crack?

JeimuzuWii are u on crack? 360 is in last in worldwide sales not ps3 soo burn fail
   by Scarface88 - 2008-06-09
 » @BIH

You make me laugh. Basically, your replies are what I would say to some of these idiots, so you save me a couple of minutes AND I can have a bit chuckle at the same time. *raises pint of Bud*.

As for those of you who still go on about 'casual' and 'hardcore'... STOP. Games are not casual or hardcore. GAMERS define that depending on how much they play their games. So, for all of you that still go on about the Wii being rubbish because it's less powerful, only suited to casual f***ing games, blah blah blah... get a goddamn grip.

What is it with fanboys? I'm a Wii owner, and a long-time Nintendo fan. My brothers own a 360 and a PS3, of which I can see the merits for (although certainly more for the PS3... MGS4. 'Nuff said). I don't flame other consoles with ridiculous Nintendo fanboy propaganda, nor should anyone else with ANY console. It's not cool, it makes you look like a pillock, and it takes away from the purpose of the comments box... to discuss the article (I know I'm guilty of digressing). I can't remember ever reading a comments list without someone starting an argument over something as trivial as the fact that they don't like the Wii, so Nintendo fans are gay, or the Wii is a ripoff, or the 360 is 'too similar' to a PC (WTF?), or the PS3 only has crap games...

   by ShadeyProphet - 2008-06-09
 » hmm

just an after thought. Why do people want to quill the console wars anyway. the truth is people like the excitment of it. if the console wars werent fun, less people would be debating them, I think.


   Re: na2rul - 2008-06-09
 » I second that

and its true.

   by jwydell - 2008-06-09
 » just a few things

when talking about the psp and nintendo ds i don't understand how there is any comparison. would you rather play nintendogs or syphen filter. maybe you just want to watch a movie. i don't get it.
sony will always be the big kid on the block. just accept it. we need good competition to make us better. otherwise the product gets stale. wrestling fans know what i'm talking about.
the wii is a fad that made alot of money. you cannot change the sport you're playing but with ps3/360 games you change missions, characters, etc. so your interest is still there. i don't like the 360 but the sales numbers don't lie. playstation might struggle at times but will come out on top.


   Re: PS3R00M631 - 2008-06-09
 » My Opinion

Each console has its own kind of exclusives. Personally i was always a Sony fan and i waited for the PS3 to come out rather than spending my money on a 360. Dont get me wrong, 360 is good and all but i like Resistance, Killzone, MGS series... the 360 games are not my type. When people say the 360 has better games or the PS3 has better games, thats your opinion. personally i think the PS3 has better games, but some1 will differ. But PS3 is getting stronger, MGS4 is coming out and you know people are gonna buy PS3s for that game, Home is gonna be a big help, Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 are going to help the sales. Sony has a great line up coming this year. I'm hoping it will put Sony in first, but ill wait and see.
   by scarface_tha_second - 2008-06-09
 » ***** Analysts

They are almost always wrong...even when the believe the same thing I do.

I think the PS3 will easily catch up and even surpass the 360. I will admit, however, that the 360 has a big enough install base at this point that it will never be considered a "flop" or the "loser" (like the last generation).

As far as the Wii goes, I still think that the PS3 has the ability of catching up. I am not completely putting my money on because of the huge install base that it has already built. I will say that if you are still playing the Nintendo Wii in 2011 (much like I will still be playing PS3), you are a *****ing loser.


   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-10
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"I will say that if you are still playing the Nintendo Wii in 2011 (much like I will still be playing PS3), you are a *****ing loser."

So...millions on top of millions of people who WILL be playing the Wii in 2011 are losers simply because you said so?

Pointless.....

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-11
 » .

"I will say that if you are still playing the Nintendo Wii in 2011 (much like I will still be playing PS3), you are a *****ing loser."

"So...millions on top of millions of people who WILL be playing the Wii in 2011 are losers simply because you said so?"

They're not losers, just VERY easily entertained. Those same Wii-tards probably get a kick out of the cup-and-ball game!

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-16
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

I'm sure some do. And?

More pointless garbage...
   by Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-09
 » .

The Wii cannot last more than a couple more years, here's why:

Horrible games aimed mostly at young children and old people.

Failure of Nintendo to implement even a small percentage of features that the competition has.

Complete lack of creativity and innovation in the form of numerous mario sequels.

Failure to ever reduce price on current systems or games.

Failure to offer anything the competition has had for years, Dolby Digital, DVD player, strong online, etc.

Failure to produce and ship adequate systems after a full 19 months. Any other company besides Nintendo would increase production.

Most third party games have minimal effort put into them (less than gamecube.)

Competiton from China and Microsoft has and is developing wii-mote like controls, the only thing the Wii possibly has going for it.


   Re: Blad3 - 2008-06-09
 » ...

so will your arguments still be as repetitive as they are now when nintendos sales lead will still be outstripping the others a couple years from now?

   Re: scarface_tha_second - 2008-06-09
 » Blad3

Even if Nintendo sales continue the way they are, the Wii is the least creative console with the least amount of good games.

If the original Xbox would have outsold Playstation 2, it would have sucked ***** anyway.

   Re: JeimuzuWii - 2008-06-09
 » Ooh boy, this'll be fun.

1. You must have horrible taste in games, or you just ignore good games.

2. Even if they did take something worth taking from the competitors, consumers would turn around and say "OMG THEY COPIED! UNORIGINAL WTF"

3. That must be why Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart Wii are getting fantastic scores on most all gaming sites/magazines.

4. Why should they? They're already the cheapest console on the market? Most consoles wait a few years to lower prices anyways, so chill out.

5. I just looked through my library of games and I saw Dolby printed on the back of nearly all Wii games I own, and plenty of GCN games as well. DVD players would only drive of that price you're so concerned about. For being the first console of their to support online capabilities, they're actually doing pretty good.

6. Supply and demand. limit the supply to extend the demand. Foundation of the economy, dude. (Of course US economy is down the ***** hole right now, but Nintendo is Japanese anyways, so it really doesn't matter)

7. Like Nintendo can control the effort the 3rd parties put into their games. Nintendo has plenty of 1st and 2nd parties that make fantastic games, so if the 3rd parties want to short change Nintendo, that's their loss.

8. Yeah, and look how the PS3's Sixaxis turned out, clumsy and unresponsive, good luck, Microsoft.

Shazzam.

   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-09
 » hey man

i dont care wat other ppl say about you i 100% agree you on that 1

   Re: death - 2008-06-24
 » agree

ftw
   by Datnizzle - 2008-06-09
 » Hey Xbots....

Your console will be fine in the US, no one else cares. You can tell yourself you're #1 in the US, just ignore the Wii numbers. You guys have been doing that since it came out so that shouldn't be a problem. Once MGS4 and even FF13 drop you will see people upgrading their PS2's for PS3's. About GTA4 not pushing sells, MG and FF sell better in Japan and other parts of Asia than GTA. Xbots have to understand video games are sold all over the world, not just the US.


   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-06-09
 » right on man

im kool with the 360 (PS3 all day) but ur right the 360 guys seem to not understand america is not a planet

   Re: death - 2008-06-24
 » agree

ftw
   by ISOHaven - 2008-06-09
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

Awe man!!! I missed out on some good flames!!!! Too busy watching iPhone 2 news....

I'll just leave it as.....as usual Mr. Common Douche Bag is dead wrong!


   Re: scarface_tha_second - 2008-06-09
 » Yo

How come you and Common Sense hate each other so much?

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-09
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

It's simple! I hate liars and all he does is lie. He hates that I call him on every single lie.

   Re: Binary - 2008-06-09
 » lol

so that's why I don't see you 2 fighting. LOL

   Re: Billie - 2008-06-09
 » I second ISO

Nah dude, Mr. Common douche is a complete tool.

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-10
 » .

isoretard doesn't even try to prove me wrong anymore, probably too difficult. He's just content calling me a douche and a liar.

http://wii.qj.net/Consumer-group-rates-appliance-power-consumption-PS3-one-of-the-highest/pg/49/aid/120804

Here he does the usual lies, he is wrong, but he will not admit it. He thinks heating coils always consume electricty when off, but straight heating elements do not!

It just makes no sense at all, but he will never concede to being wrong!

   Re: Scarface88 - 2008-06-10
 » @MCS

Surely you must have realised by now that you are wrong FAR more often than ISOhaven? I mean, nearly every time you post something (i.e. bull****), he totally shoots you down in flames. And if he doesn't (and sometimes even when he does), I do. Here's a flowchart of sorts for it:

MCS reads news on QJ.

Regardless of what it concerns, MCS posts something offensive to Nintendo, Wii owners, etc, or something just generally ridiculous.

ISOhaven reads news, and scrolls down to comments.

ISOhaven absolutely owns MCS with consummate ease.

I read news, scroll down to comments, and read the latest argument, which ISOhaven won a long time ago.

If ISOhaven hasn't mentioned something, or hasn't posted, or if I just feel like it, I decide to own MCS myself.

MCS says something about "isoretard" not being able to admit when he is wrong, and in doing so, practically defines irony.

Repeat ad nauseum.

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-10
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

@Scarface88 - That was funny!

@Douche Bag - Since you are too ignorant to follow along properly I'll sum things up for you:

1. As stated in my comment I MISSED some good flames. In other words it was already over. I'm not like you, I don't beat dead horses.

2. There was no need to show HOW you were wrong as MANY OTHER people already did, see dead horse comment.

As for the power article... I even gave you a clue as to why you where wrong and you spread the link on ANOTHER article so other people can see how WRONG you are as well?

Oh man, your ignorance shows no end. Here's another clue for your empty brain...not always, but sometimes a heating element IS A COIL!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

I even OWN YOU across multiple articles!!!!

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-11
 » poor tattered shell of a human being.....

"1. As stated in my comment I MISSED some good flames. In other words it was already over. I'm not like you, I don't beat dead horses."

I bet you're really disapointed. Since this is really all you do with your so called life. Then your Wii-tard "friends" support you, I guess they somehow admire your pathetic life. They could be even more pathetic!

If you don't like my comments, fine. But I NEVER lie. Yes I understand well the Wii sucks and you need to call all my observations lies since that's the only way the Wii doesn't seem to suck so bad.

Look at my post above. Any lies? Of course not.

When did I lie isoretard? Are going to mention the Wavebird again? No, you aren't the type to beat a dead horse. I corrected myself on that single innacurate statement, dumbf*ck, something your Wii-tard brain is incapable of.

I always have a good laugh trying to visualize isoretard. I've even prepared a psycological profile of him.
Isoretard is a loner. Nobody likes him because his ego is larger than Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size. He seeks refuge from his failed marriage and numerous personal problems in forums where he thinks people like him. He tries to be popular with kids, since his brain is under-developed and similar in IQ. Kids are scared of him because he sits in the basement on the computer all day. I believe he may have been a victim of sexual abuse at a young age, along with extreme bullying his entire life. This has left him feeling empty and alone. isoretard currently enjoys arguing about everthing and anything, the more pointless the better. He also eats excessively and isn't concerned about appearance since he rarely leaves the house. He will blindly support a company like Nintendo no matter what they do, possibly bcause the NES gave him refuge from his extensive abuse while growing up. After getting teased his entire life over being introverted, fat, depressed, and ugly, he cherishes whenever someone says something good about him, even if these people have no idea how pathetic the man behind the name is.

How accurate was that?


"2. There was no need to show HOW you were wrong as MANY OTHER people already did, see dead horse comment."

Great excuse, Mr damage control! Nobody NEEDS to prove me wrong, because nobody likes my comments. I could swear that excuse came from Nintendo themselves, who you likely work for. I also question those who agree with you, seeing as you fail to ever make a point and make excuses (like this) instead. There's a reason they're called Wii-tards, I guess. Oh man, you all owned me! Or did I own you? Only a complete dumbf*ck gives a s*it. You all should be very proud of your lives!


"As for the power article... I even gave you a clue as to why you where wrong and you spread the link on ANOTHER article so other people can see how WRONG you are as well?"

Seeing as you ARE wrong, I thought it would be amusing. Unfortunately, Wii tards know little if anything about electricity so they will likely agree with you as well.

scarface_tha_second:
"ow come you and Common Sense hate each other so much?"

Re: ISORetard - 1 day ago
WTF!?!?!?!?!

"It's simple! I hate liars and all he does is lie. He hates that I call him on every single lie."

I don't hate isoretard, I pity him. I've never come across someone so egotistical, arrogant, and so full of s*it that it comes out his ears. Interesting piece of BS. Did I lie on this page? Did I lie on any other pages? Why would I care if you call my opinions lies? An opinion cannot be true or false. Therefore, by that dumbass comment, YOU are LYING. I could care less if any Wii-tards ignore that lie of yours, along with many others.

I don't hate isoretard, I pity him. I've never come across someone so egotistical, arrogant, and so full of s*it that it comes out his ears. He clearly has numerous personal issues. Poor guy.

Don't worry, there is help available. There's multiple websites describing in detail painless suicide methods, like the detergent mix that's all

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-11
 » .

There's multiple websites describing in detail painless suicide methods, like the detergent mix that's all the rage in Japan. I think that would be your best option since you are clearly miserable and make those unfortunate enough to be in your family miserable too. They might be upset at first upon hearing the news, until they realize how great life is without you.

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-11
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"I bet you're really disapointed. Since this is really all you do with your so called life. Then your Wii-tard "friends" support you, I guess they somehow admire your pathetic life. They could be even more pathetic!"

How much was the price of tea in China? You've lost it. Since you've boasted about your high level of education lately.....disapointed? Go learn something, then come back!!!

"If you don't like my comments, fine. But I NEVER lie."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! I've busted you in SO MANY lies it's pathetic. Get over yourself. Do you want the master list of all your crap ONCE AGAIN?

"The only people who own a Wii are *****s, women and old people"

That is a quote from YOU. That comment is a LIE. That's one of at least 50. Want more?

"Look at my post above. Any lies? Of course not."
Only in your narrow minded world does ONE POST constitute fact.

"When did I lie isoretard?"
Read above moron.

"Are going to mention the Wavebird again? No, you aren't the type to beat a dead horse."
Accounting history is not beating a dead horse. Try again.

"I corrected myself on that single innacurate statement"
Single? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Even in this article I mentioned BOTH the wavebird and the NDS connectivity. That's TWO. 1 plus 1 equals TWO..... Wow, that high horse tech school you went to really fried your BRAIN!!!!

Since you've boasted about your high level of education lately.....innacurate? Go learn something, then come back!!!

"dumbf*ck, something your Wii-tard brain is incapable of."
HAHAHA!!!! Wow, you're really on the loose now!!!

"I always have a good laugh trying to visualize isoretard. I've even prepared a psycological profile of him......."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, you truly have too much time on your hands.

Since you've boasted about your high level of education lately.....psycological? Go learn something, then come back!!!

"Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size."
Ok, this is like the 10th time you have mentioned a private part of Miamoto on a graphic level....seriously....go get help!

"How accurate was that?"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

"Nobody NEEDS to prove me wrong"
Who said anyone NEEDS to? People WANT to. This is more made up BS in that garbage dump of a head of yours.

"I also question those who agree with you, seeing as you fail to ever make a point"
Correction, you FAIL to understand....HAHAHA!!!!!!!

"Only a complete dumbf*ck gives a s*it."
Oh man...he's STEAMING now!!!

"You all should be very proud of your lives!"
Why, yes...I enjoy the life I've built for myself. Thanks!

"Seeing as you ARE wrong, I thought it would be amusing. Unfortunately, Wii tards know little if anything about electricity so they will likely agree with you as well."
Sleep tight! Don't let the bed dugs bite!!!

"I don't hate isoretard, I pity him. I've never come across someone so egotistical, arrogant, and so full of s*it that it comes out his ears."
Interesting, because those are the EXACT words people say about you. Good job Mr. Parrot!!!

Speaking of egotistical and arrogant....explain to us again how you come from the BEST tech school in the "area"? Talk about a hypocrite!!!!

"Did I lie on this page?"
There's that small mindedness again!!!!

"Did I lie on any other pages?"
HELL YEAH!!!! Most of your lies are, "I never said that", which are 100% of the time followed up with a QUOTE from you proving you DID say "that".

"An opinion cannot be true or false."
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! An opinion based on FALSE information is a FALSE opinion. Hating the moon because it's square is a FALSE OPINION.

Oh man.... You are WRONG on a daily basis.

"Therefore, by that dumbass comment, YOU are LYING."
Read this entire comment over again, I pointed out factual lies and point out how an opinion can be false.

"I could care less if any Wii-tards ignore that lie of yours, along with many others."
I've constantly posted LINKS to your lies. To date you have NEVER been ab

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-11
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"I could care less if any Wii-tards ignore that lie of yours, along with many others."
I've constantly posted LINKS to your lies. To date you have NEVER been able to show where I've lied. Because I don't lie. Only pathetic little boys like you lie.

Also, you uneducated moron, it's could NOT care less. Obviously you DO care. HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

"They might be upset at first upon hearing the news, until they realize how great life is without you."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! That's great!

I LOVE seeing everything that I bring out of you. With every character you type you only further complete my goal...this is AWESOME!!!

   Re: Binary - 2008-06-11
 » .

OWNED

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-16
 » Intelligent debate is impossible with this tool, flame on!

Can you link a single page where I lied? I mean lied, not an opinion you don't agree with.

"You all should be very proud of your lives!"
Why, yes...I enjoy the life I've built for myself. Thanks!"

You're proud of this life?

Isoretard is a loner. Nobody likes him because his ego is larger than Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size. He seeks refuge from his failed marriage and numerous personal problems in forums where he thinks people like him. He tries to be popular with kids, since his brain is under-developed and similar in IQ. Kids are scared of him because he sits in the basement on the computer all day. I believe he may have been a victim of sexual abuse at a young age, along with extreme bullying his entire life. This has left him feeling empty and alone. isoretard currently enjoys arguing about everthing and anything, the more pointless the better. He also eats excessively and isn't concerned about appearance since he rarely leaves the house. He will blindly support a company like Nintendo no matter what they do, possibly bcause the NES gave him refuge from his extensive abuse while growing up. After getting teased his entire life over being introverted, fat, depressed, and ugly, he cherishes whenever someone says something good about him, even if these people have no idea how pathetic the man behind the name is.

Don't lie, you know it's at least 80% accurate. I've found a way do explain all your retard behavior, from excessive use of the word cute to your preference for children's toys, to the way you talk to everyone like they're 5 years old.

"They might be upset at first upon hearing the news, until they realize how great life is without you."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! That's great!"

And true! Don't deny it! That would be great! One less stupid person on earth! Now what to do with the other 80%?

" bet you're really disapointed. Since this is really all you do with your so called life. Then your Wii-tard "friends" support you, I guess they somehow admire your pathetic life. They could be even more pathetic!"

I just thought this needed to be repeated since it didn't get through the first time.

Mis-quote?
"Nobody likes him because his ego is larger than Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size."

"Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size." PROOF you routinely change my words and LIE about what I said.

"Ok, this is like the 10th time you have mentioned a private part of Miamoto on a graphic level....seriously....go get help!"

Perhaps you need the help. With the ego problem and the "male inadequacy." Of course with your failled marriage and obvious personality and appearance problems, the chances you'll get laid again are nonexistant.

I wish somebody actually smart (not just thinking it) could have an intelligent debate on here. sigh......

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-16
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"Can you link a single page where I lied? I mean lied, not an opinion you don't agree with."
Sure! I can do that, AGAIN! How many times am I going to have to though? You keep asking over and over again. I keep posting and you keep asking.... It's as if you think each article is fresh and no one already knows your a BS liar. So you think as long as none of your past crap is posted in each new article, then what? You're safe? I'm sick of using the lie where you said NINTENDO HAS NEVER given us the NDS connected to the Wii. I'm sick of your lie about how the wavebird DOES NOT work on the Wii. So let's see what else I have in my bag of tricks! Oh yeah! Ho about when you claimed there are MILLIONS of Wii's for sale on eBay? Yup, another lie!!! Or how about all times you explain that I suck Miamoto's private parts? Or that my marriage is in the crapper? Or that Miamoto invented the Wii Fit while on the toilet? Or when you claim more 360's sell then Wii's? Or how about the time you claimed that you backup EVERYTHING you say with facts? Which certainly explain the NDS connectivity, wavebird and eBay comments...HAHAHAHA!!!! That one can be found here:

http://wii.qj.net/Snes9xGx-wii-0-01b-with-source-code/pg/49/aid/114478
"I back up everything I say with facts" - Obviously a LIE (NDS, wavebird and eBay)

Well, there's one hardcore lie. That's the most interesting one I could come up with. You've seen my list of links and know I have plenty more for ya!!!

"You're proud of this life?"
I'm proud of MY life. Not BS made up LIE in your head.

"Don't lie, you know it's at least 80% accurate."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I've found a way do explain all your retard behavior"
"a way do" Is that more of your BEST TECH SCHOOL education? HAHAHA!!!!!!!

"from excessive use of the word cute to your preference for children's toys"
Excessive? Yeah, I have ANOTHER LIE of yours to add to my list. I've use it what? Two? Three times? Also, only to piss you off! HAHAHA!!!!

You're so cute!!! Yes you ARE!!! You are the cutest little Mr. Common Douche Bag on whole big internet.....yes you ARE!!!!

"to the way you talk to everyone like they're 5 years old."
Not everyone. Only you. Here's another lie to add to my list. I might as well give you PROOF that this is lie right now, before you deny it like all your other lies!!!

Even though CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS and I don't ever see "eye to eye", you'll notice a perfectly NORMAL conversation is able to take place:

http://ps3.qj.net/Fatal-Inertia-EX-to-be-released-next-week-exclusively-on-PSN/pg/49/aid/121055/act/success

However, there is nothing NORMAL about conversations with Mr. Common Douche Bag because he's such a piece of crap!

"And true! Don't deny it! That would be great! One less stupid person on earth! Now what to do with the other 80%?"
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

"I just thought this needed to be repeated since it didn't get through the first time."
That's all you ever do....repeat the same old BS.

"Mis-quote?"
"Nobody likes him because his ego is larger than Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size."
"Miamoto's and his d*ck is probably the same size." PROOF you routinely change my words and LIE about what I said."
What the hell are you talking about? That is an EXACT quote from this page. OMG! You are such an IDIOT!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

"Perhaps you need the help. With the ego problem and the "male inadequacy.""
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Oh, man...make it stop..... all this laughing hurts!!!!!

"Of course with your failled marriage"
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

"and obvious personality and appearance problems, the chances you'll get laid again are nonexistant."
Oh man!!! Just same repeated crap over and over and over again. I LOVE how you make yourself look like a complete fool!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

"I wish somebody actually smart (not just thinking it) could have an intelligent debate on here. sigh...... "
Smart like you? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

   Re: Scarface88 - 2008-06-17
 » @MCS

Mate, why do you go on about marriages and ISOhaven's personal life on a regular basis? Why do you assume he should be married (not that I know or anything). Judging by this, I'll take a guess that you are married, or at least going to be (if that's the case, congratulations). How can you possibly suggest that you wish people were intelligent like you, that you want to have serious, stimulating debates when all you post is stuff that degrades or belittles others, and is totally unintelligent? I want to have intelligent debates too, but how can that happen when there are people, like you, that are so narrow-minded and offensive that intelligent debate is done away with?

I'd like a good debate, even if someone proves me wrong and totally owns me, but only if their comments are factual and have good reasoning behind them. Not if they make up stupid lies and pi$$ people off intentionally.

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-23
 » watch him come back for more.....

"You're so cute!!! Yes you ARE!!! You are the cutest little Mr. Common Douche Bag on whole big internet.....yes you ARE!!!!"

More proof isoretard is a straight up homosexual. Homosexuals do not have successful marriages, nor do people that spend 3 hours a day on the computer.

More lies from the master liar!

"I'm sick of using the lie where you said NINTENDO HAS NEVER given us the NDS connected to the Wii."

I said the DS-Wii connectivity is USELESS and only for Pokemon crap games, which is true! It's only a lie if you CHANGE MY WORDS like always.

"I'm sick of your lie about how the wavebird DOES NOT work on the Wii."

Wow! You brought it up again! More proof you have nothing to argue.

"So let's see what else I have in my bag of tricks! Oh yeah! Ho about when you claimed there are MILLIONS of Wii's for sale on eBay? Yup, another lie!!!"

Millions of Wii systems have been sold on ebay, a requirement for many to get a Wii with Nintendo faking the shortage and all.

"Or how about all times you explain that I suck Miamoto's private parts?"

HA HA HA! That could be true. You being a known homosexual and love all the crap he comes up with.

"Or that my marriage is in the crapper?"

Most definately true. What kind of woman would want your BS on a daily basis? A guy who considers online blogging more importatnt than taking the wife out once in a while? Only a fictional one.

"Or that Miamoto invented the Wii Fit while on the toilet?"

No, he "invented" it while on the bath scale. That was a joke suggesting he would come up with more bathroom game accessories, like a toilet. You do not understand jokes or how to make them. That's something else women like, a sense of humor. More proof your mairrage is in the toilet.

"Or when you claim more 360's sell then Wii's?"

I've NEVER said that, EVER.
Stright up lie! I guess you need to make crap up to support your many lies.

"Or how about the time you claimed that you backup EVERYTHING you say with facts? Which certainly explain the NDS connectivity, wavebird and eBay comments..."

Anything that isn't an opinion is backed up with facts. Unlike you, readers can get propoganda-free news from me. I also correct myself when wrong, wow that's happened once!

The reason I insult isoretard's personal life so much is simple. HE DESERVES IT. That and it's so much fun! You see, this "guy" clearly has issues, and normally I would stay out of his business, but he's stupid, arrogant, egotistical, and can never admit being wrong. The very qualities that make a person trash.

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-23
 » yep,

Yet again, isoretard FAILS.

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-23
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"watch him come back for more....."
HAHAHA!!!! The same can be said about you. After all, here you are after 6 DAYS from the last post!!!!!

What a hypocrite!!!!!!

"More proof isoretard is a straight up homosexual."
You call that proof? I call it proof of someone being a dad. However, this is the difference between you and I. I'm not a douche bag and you are.

"Homosexuals do not have successful marriages"
Once again Mr. common douche bag is WRONG!!!! Homosexuals DO have successful marriages. Especially with each other. One could understand that mixed marriages probably don't work out to well. But even those HAVE WORKED.

You are such an ignorant little child.

"nor do people that spend 3 hours a day on the computer."
WRONG!!!! A very large percentage of people spend many hours a day working on computers, cash registers and so forth. Once again you are wrong.

"More lies from the master liar!"
What lies? You didn't point out anything of mine being a lie. You have to actually catch someone in a lie before calling them a liar.

"I said the DS-Wii connectivity is USELESS and only for Pokemon crap games"
WRONG!!! That is NOT what you said. YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!! You said Nintendo has NEVER given it to us.

"which is true! It's only a lie if you CHANGE MY WORDS like always."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I've posted so many QUOTES of your lies, no one believes your BS.

"I'm sick of your lie about how the wavebird DOES NOT work on the Wii."

"Wow! You brought it up again! More proof you have nothing to argue."
I said, "SICK OF". Learn to read ENGLISH!!!!

"So let's see what else I have in my bag of tricks! Oh yeah! Ho about when you claimed there are MILLIONS of Wii's for sale on eBay? Yup, another lie!!!"

"Millions of Wii systems have been sold on ebay"
1. You have NO proof of that.
2. You said ARE FOR SALE. Not HAVE BEEN for sale.

"a requirement for many to get a Wii with Nintendo faking the shortage and all."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

"HA HA HA! That could be true. You being a known homosexual and love all the crap he comes up with."
MILLIONS on top of MILLIONS of people love what he comes up with. So all of them are homosexuals? You are such a douche bag!

"Most definately true. What kind of woman would want your BS on a daily basis?"
What BS? Are you going to pretend now how I treat everyone else in my life? HAHAHA!!!!!!!

The fact is, this is all you have now. All you do is run around and shout homosexual and fail marriage. You are such an utter failure that this is all you have left. I've stripped you of everything. You are the rated the LOWEST on this entire site. No one wants to hear from you. No one cares about what you have to say. A few days ago you managed to post ONE DECENT post. What happened to it? It was voted down to zero stars before one could blink! Because you are such a POS and no one cares about you.

So what does this tell us?

1. You know nothing of my marriage. There is FACT all over this site that I treat people with the highest of respect. Most of my posts are 5 stars.
2. We have FACT all over this site that you treat NO ONE with respect and you have on average half a star. That's if we search real hard otherwise you have zero stars.

So by looking at the FACTS alone I can the same things about you. What kind of PERSON (not just women) would want your BS on a daily basis.

Try again kid. You are only fooling yourself.

"A guy who considers online blogging more importatnt than taking the wife out once in a while? Only a fictional one."
Based on what? Notice I only blog from 9-5 mon-fri....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Once again you FAIL.

"No, he "invented" it while on the bath scale."
WRONG!!!! You've said on more then one occasion that he invented the new BATH SCALE while on the TOILET. If you claim saying otherwise then that is another LIE!!!!

"You do not understand jokes or how to make them."
You lie so often no one can tell the difference. Anymore. Didn't your m

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-23
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"You do not understand jokes or how to make them."
You lie so often no one can tell the difference. Anymore. Didn't your mother ever read, "The boy who cried wolf" to you? Something else she missed eh?

"More proof your mairrage is in the toilet."
Your toilet crap is proof of my marriage? Do your words even make sense to you?

"I've NEVER said that, EVER."
Yes, you did.

"Stright up lie!"
I assume you meant Straight? More of that best in the world tech school education eh?

"I guess you need to make crap up to support your many lies."
If that helps you sleep at night!

"Anything that isn't an opinion is backed up with facts."
Very good!!!! At least you know "something". To bad all the things I mentioned were said by you AS FACT.

"Unlike you, readers can get propoganda-free news from me."
OMG!!!!!!!!! THAT US HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Progopanda free!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you call being WRONG most of time....NEWS? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

People can expect to get WRONG information from you. All the examples here are proof of that.

"I also correct myself when wrong, wow that's happened once!"
Wow, again you say once? WAVEBIRD, NDS and EBAY are THREE examples given in this thread alone. That's THREE right there.

"The reason I insult isoretard's personal life so much is simple. HE DESERVES IT."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Like I said above, you are a failure and that is FACT based on the FACTS founds all over this site.

"That and it's so much fun! You see, this "guy" clearly has issues"
And you base that on the fact that I keep "coming back" yet here you are SIX DAYS after the last post. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

"and normally I would stay out of his business"
Oh man, that's a good one!

"but he's stupid, arrogant, egotistical"
Again? Dude, you keep saying that but myself and OTHER PEOPLE keep telling you, YOU ARE WRONG and that you are actually explaining YOURSELF.

How many times do MANY PEOPLE need to tell you the same thing before even your pathetic brain can figure it out?


"and can never admit being wrong."
You keep saying this and I've posted PROOF to YOU, TWICE, on two different occasions where I "understood" wrong. So the fact that you are saying this "now" makes it a LIE....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Wow, so many LIES in one post!!!

"The very qualities that make a person trash. "
Wow, if a 4.5 star average is trash then what does that make you? The dung beetles in the trash? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Or the DUNG! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

"Yet again, isoretard FAILS."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
   by wintermute - 2008-06-09
 » My Two Cents

Haha, so much pointless flaming on here, can't we all just get along? Anyway, my opinions, read OPINIONS. Okay, here goes...

I've been a Sony fan for most of my life, since the PS1 wowed me nearly 15 years ago with Ridge Racer (it was cutting edge back then) and subsequently through the PS2 and then the PS3. Don't get me wrong, XBox and the Xbox 360 are great consoles, but the Xbox came out after the PS2 and I wasn't going to own both (what's the point?) and I decided I wanted a PS3 and not an XBox 360, mainly down to the ridiculous reliability problems I'd heard about with the 360 machine (RROD etc). I mean, my mate has had a 360 for 4 years and has recently received his EIGHTH console. That's simple unacceptable for me and turns me off M$ straight away, surely they'd have fixed such a major issue long ago in the manufacturing process? Apparently not.

So, IMO the PS3 is going to surpass the 360, there is no way the 360 with it's DVD's can compete with the next gen titles the PS3 is going to offer (imagine fitting MGS4 on a DVD? Exactly). The PS3 gets stronger every month with new titles released and will continue to get stronger and continue to snatch sales away from M$. Look at GTA4, which had to be developed for both the 360 and the PS3. This caused major problems for the developers because they were dealing with two totally different platforms and two totally different sets of code. Subsequently this delayed the release fo the game by six months. If GTA4 had been PS3 exclusive then you can bet that a lot of the 'missing' features from San Andreas wouldn't have been missing at all, they were simply removed because of lack of space (on the 360 DVD) and they probably felt that by adding them to the PS3 version only would annoy 360 fans and probably breach some sort of agreement with M$ (possibly regarding DLC). Anyway, long and the short of it is, next gen gaming is going to be increasingly biased toward the PS3, until M$ relase their next console (the 1080 or whatever).

As for the Wii, I'd have to agree it's a little faddish. Sure, it's fun for a couple of hours playing Mario Party or whatever, but compared to the other two it's way behind, the graphics are mediocre at best and the majority of the games seem to be designed specifically for the casual gamer. Fair play to Nintendo for the way they marketed the Wii, and the fact they don't import enough seems to be a way of artificially generating demand, I can see the Wii continue to lead the way as far as casual gaming goes, but as someone above stated, just because your gran play's it doesn't mean she'll buy it, I will NEVER buy a Wii because they are the equivalent to me of air hockey. Fun for a quick bash but devoid of any long term appeal.

Feel free to flame me to death, the more mature among you may like to counter my comments with your own intelligent retorts.


   Re: Project D - 2008-06-09
 » Flames, huh?

I don't agree with you, but you were respectful and non-inflamatory, so I applaud you instead.
   by Binary - 2008-06-09
 » ..

Atleast MS did try to bring the next gen early.

but they should of hold back test if it will error (RROD)

They did not know blue ray, HDMI and wireless internet was going to go big.



   Re: na2rul - 2008-06-10
 » hmm

but it damn right was their job to find out whats going to be big. (research?)

360 is the result after directly attempting to compete with Playstation 2. Too eager, no care.

This is why i'm still a playstation fan.


   Re: death - 2008-06-24
 » LMAO

"They did not know blue ray, hdmi and WIRELESS INTERNET was going to go big." aww come on! and they didnt think people would wanna google things on a built in internet browser please they wanted to save money on manufacturing and make money off products (100$ wifi adapter)

   by Achooist - 2008-06-09
 » Eh...

They may be experts, but I'm going to have to disagree. =D

My thoughts:
The Wii will either keep selling strong or slow down and keep up with the PS3 and 360. It's just to big of a hype....good console in terms of sale and innovation, but not so good in terms of about everything else.

The 360 will stay at the same rate it's been going now.

PS3 will keep rising, and have a boom when MGS4 and KZ2 are released, but nothing to big. Then it will slow down and keep at the same pace it is now.

   by psn_gamestar - 2008-06-09
 » lol jeimuzu

u said bam as if you showed me something lol. dude get out of here with that bs. whens the last time they made a good starfox game? (ds not included ) starfox adventures was good but that was back in 2002 an even that received mix revews (basically a zelda game in the starfox universe).Pikman??....lol thats the type of bs casual crap im talking about but if thats wat ur into handle it man. I wouldn't mention that in wiis defense tho lol f-zero please dude come back with something else because you failed.. Wheres all the realistic wii fans at? ive seen 2008 release schedule an unless there saving something big for E3 (which i doubt ) you guys better start rationing SSBB.


   Re: Billie - 2008-06-09
 » pssh

Just curious, have you even played "Pikimin"? I can assume that you haven't based on your mispelling, but I thought that I would ask you anyways. If not, then why even post your B.S.?

   Re: JeimuzuWii - 2008-06-10
 » lol psn_gamestar

Get of here with your shenanigans. Why is DS not included? Because Star Fox Command was good? Did you want to hide that fact so your comment would look legit? Well, it didn't work, bucko. Also, as the guy above me said, maybe you should play Pikmin before you go trashing it, play what you're dissin' before you start dishin'. Also, you FAIL at giving me a reason for why F-Zero is bad, so maybe you should put some thought into your comebacks before you go tossing your shenanigans into the kitchen, you'll get your ignorant self burned worse than an overheated PS3.
   by Apeaggedon - 2008-06-09
 » ....

well i am a sony fan- but that doesnt cloud my judgment on the other platforms.
i have ben reading all the posts on here and wanted to touch on some subjects so here i go (take em how you want).

1)if you do your reaserch WELL and indepth you will find that atari was not the first gaming consol out.. it was just the first major and most notible one out.... the original to my knowladge was a nintendo based company created by the japanese.

2)in my opinion the wii has more loyal and die hard fans then any system for the fact they have ben around longer and developed more games (some VERY big).

3)allthough the 360 may have more "better" games do to bieng out a year earlier it also has alot of failed bombed games as well.

4)to me sony has more backups to keep it going for years to come as the 360 has very little and has to keep thinking of new ones (witch is not allways a good idea,but can be great at the same time).

5)sony also has a better character lineup as well then the 360 and wii-just becouse nintendo has ben out forever doesnt mean it has allwas done good...

6)if your open minded to gaming as i am then youll find that ps3 has quit a few awsome games to keep you goin and havn fun... but if your only sticking mainly to a certain genre then its a different story.

7) AND in my personall opinion i would rather have few failed games on the ps3 then a GREAT number of 360 CONSOLES failed on me witch i can just play other games on ps3 to decide from or buy a new one for 65 greens ones at max price rather then paying either another couple hundred dollars to purchase a new 360 or have it fixed for cheap (but you could also spend just as much as a new 360 if yours keeps failing and keep having it fixed)- i had a 360 and liked it for the time i had it but of course it failed on me w/the rrod TWICE might i add.

8)and my lastly opinion is that i truly think the ps3 will reign in the end do to the fact that sony is not only developeing more AAA titles in the future they are also at the same time upgrading hardware and focusing on more then just the games but on the technology and power the sytem produces-sony has more available harware options to creat so much for and keep advancing as the 360 has to make multiple consoles to grade to the other type of gamers on the 360.... notice i havnt mentioned the wii.... thats becouse from the start nintendo seperated themselves from the console war and are a stand alone console that plays its own judgement-the only "war" thats going on would be between the 360 and ps3.... and btw nintendo DOES have a pretty strong relationship with sony and has worked wiht sony PLENTY of times in the past (dont know about now).

anyways my hands are getting tired so ima stop lol. peace out!

   by LiquidSnake007 - 2008-06-09
 » i disagree then i agree

i think the 360 will remain on top with at the end with ps3 AND AND AND the wii right next to it since as time goes by every holiday every birthday or christmas some one gets a 360 or a wii i havent known many people to get a ps3 as a first next gen system...

PS3 the most powerful you can use the internet on the damn thing!! but...its game selection that is exclusive on the ps3 is very bad there will be a few high notes with MGS4 and... killzone? yeah right w/e but other then that there really isnt any killer app type games for it.. but....MGS4 alone to me as enough of a reason to buy it but thats just for mgs fans

The Wii there isnt many with it either but as more and more people go to friends houses to play SSBB wii sports wii fit wii, wii, wii people are starting to relize that being able to control your character down to the T makes the game so much more fun where as on 360 all controller and the PS3 has the sixaxis which is ok but not many games use it

The last but not least the 360 the Systen much like the Xbox made for shooters it was the first system with triggers that slide back will probably forever remain the shooter system there hasnt been a single million dollar making shooter for any of the 3 systems that was exclusive Halo 3, the upcoming bioshock trilogy, Gears of War, Left 4 dead and numorous others. thats just the begining with other games ninja gaiden 2 and many more no lie the PS3 Wii and 360. ps3 being the best looking with no games in it, wii having the best control, but with out the games it all means ***** theres over 50 really good 360 exclusive games that are being played online as we speak but on the ps3 you have resistence(maybe), UT3(soon to be Live!!),COD4(more people are on 360), and umm hmm i think thats it

not to be an anti-ps3 person cus i sure as hell will buy one at the end of summer after i geta wii in a few weeks because its the ***** but it in the game area has no power where as a console it has the most


   Re: Apeaggedon - 2008-06-10
 » wut? yeah rite dude

ps3 has a great exclusive lineup.... open your eyes man.
dont think up to mgs4 date,think beyond.
and just to let you know as everyone knows (hopefully) ps3 outsold xbox 360 last holiday season (christmas and wutever was next. dont care)... it sold more at gamestop and others as well (even sold more then the wii just for the fact that there were more ps3's on the shelves. look it up dude.
well im glad your buying a ps3 as you will not be dissapointed this and espercially next year since theres gunna be hardly ANY 360 exclusives.
1)ninja gaiden 2 was allready announced to be ported to ps3 next year
2)mass affect and of course bioshock 1 2 and 3 are gunna be ported as well to ps3.
3)gears of war 2 is a pc game as well... and part 3 will be on ps3 too.
.... just stateing the facts but like i said ,go look em up for yourself . i do agree however that wii is da shiza forsho.
your such a 360 fanboy saying that ps3 has no games-have you even seen the games on ps3???? yeah shut your mouth dude,you dont even own a ps3 as i have owned 2 360"s last year and got fed up with the MASSIVE fail rate that still continues ti'll this day as well. 30 might have more good titles but has ALOT more sh*tty ones too. (think about it for a sec, just take that moment of silence). game are about personall preference as$ face so dont talk like wut you say is apsolutely a must and fact wen it all isnt. peace out foolio!

   Re: Binary - 2008-06-11
 »  Re: Apeaggedon

Who cares he is a 360 fan boy, you would be too if ps3 wasn't here.

So shut your mouth!

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Proud owner of a PC Nivdia Gefore 8600, PSP, PS2, Sega, NES, and now xbox360.


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