Posted Jun 03, 2008 at 06:19PM by Sally B.
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If it's your habit to leave your consoles turned on even if you're not playing a game, then this report should make you realize how much money you needlessly spend on electricity bills. Australian consumer group Choice came up with a study that shows the power usage of common electronics, including our three favorite gaming consoles. The study's results show that among the three major consoles - Sony PlayStation 3, Microsoft Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii - Sony's gaming machine guzzles the most amount of electricity in one go, even more than a mid-sized refrigerator, assuming that one leaves their Sony console turned on with a game running for 24/7. To be more specific, a PS3 running a game non-stop for a week will consume as much as 33.34 kilowatts per hour, which roughly translates to US$ 4.75 dollars. On the other hand, the Xbox 360 uses 26 kilowatts per hour when left running a game for the same length of time, which is worth US$ 3.70. The Nintendo Wii consumes the least amount of energy, clocking in at an impressive power-saving 3.14 kilowatts per hour for a week of non-stop gaming, or only 44 cents. Kudos goes to Nintendo for coming up with a power-saving gaming console. However, you should know that just turning off your console isn't enough. Gaming consoles still consume a bit of energy even when turned off, as long as they're plugged into the power source. If you're a gamer who's getting burdened by costly power bills, you should know by now the best way to save: unplug your machines when not in use. And yes, you may want to lay off folding@home for a while. |
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by gtxboyracer - 2008-06-03 |
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» What about
when you keep it plugged in, but flick the switch off on the back of the PS3? i have been doing that for quite some time.. i always knew it used power even in standby mode.. so i just flick that back switch off, and the whole ps3 is completely turned off..
when you keep it plugged in, but flick the switch off on the back of the PS3? i have been doing that for quite some time.. i always knew it used power even in standby mode.. so i just flick that back switch off, and the whole ps3 is completely turned off..
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Re: GW2 - 2008-06-03 |
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» same.
ive always done this aswell. its just a habit ive developed because i find the light annoying.
ive always done this aswell. its just a habit ive developed because i find the light annoying.
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Re: Mabie A. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2008-06-03 |
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» still chugs
afaik, even when the unit is off, for as long as it's still plugged in the outlet, energy still is used.
i read this somewhere recently that even for chargers of any mobile unit (psp, celfones), you have to take them out completely from the socket cos then the energy still passes through the cable, and if your unit isn't plugged in the other end, then the energy basically just doesn't go anywhere so it's just wasted.
am guessing the same concept could be applied here. but regardless, we're running low on energy and we're consuming too much indeed, whether it be on consoles or nuclear plants. so let's just unplug those suckers when not in use.
prevents fire, too. :)
afaik, even when the unit is off, for as long as it's still plugged in the outlet, energy still is used.
i read this somewhere recently that even for chargers of any mobile unit (psp, celfones), you have to take them out completely from the socket cos then the energy still passes through the cable, and if your unit isn't plugged in the other end, then the energy basically just doesn't go anywhere so it's just wasted.
am guessing the same concept could be applied here. but regardless, we're running low on energy and we're consuming too much indeed, whether it be on consoles or nuclear plants. so let's just unplug those suckers when not in use.
prevents fire, too. :)
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Re: Silver-Tiger - 2008-06-04 |
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» ...
Well, i heard somewhere that when the PS3 is in "stand-by", so the red LED is on, it consumes less than 1 Watt per hour. So this isn't really anything to worry about. The thing changes if you activate Remote Play, then it consumes much more power.
Other than that, who the hell plays 24/7 ?!?
And I think 4.75 a month isn't even that much.
Well, i heard somewhere that when the PS3 is in "stand-by", so the red LED is on, it consumes less than 1 Watt per hour. So this isn't really anything to worry about. The thing changes if you activate Remote Play, then it consumes much more power.
Other than that, who the hell plays 24/7 ?!?
And I think 4.75 a month isn't even that much.
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2008-06-04 |
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» Not $4.75 a month...
Thats per week. Oh well, it works out to roughly the same against the 360, having to pay for XBOX Live and all.
Thats per week. Oh well, it works out to roughly the same against the 360, having to pay for XBOX Live and all.
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Re: Silver-Tiger - 2008-06-04 |
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» ...
you forgot to add the $ 3.70 of the Xbox, so in the end, you still mor for X360 :p
you forgot to add the $ 3.70 of the Xbox, so in the end, you still mor for X360 :p
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
@Mabie - Sorry, that's wrong! That is not true for all electronics.
Only devices with COILS continue to consume TRACE amounts of electricity. For example, a toaster. However even today most appliances KILL the power before it hits a coil.
When you "flick the switch" to most devices today you simply have two wires plugged into the wall. i.e. NO DIFFERENT then the wires in your wall.
Like silver said, a power adapter has no switch so the transformer (coil) found inside it will draw a little power. But the amount is not worth caring about. You waste a hundred times more money every time you STOMP on your gas peddle.
I have a power meter that can measure watts. NOT just kilowatts. I plugged it into the PS3 with it turned off to make sure the power line didn't run into any wasteful components. After 30 minutes it registered ZERO watts.
@Mabie - Sorry, that's wrong! That is not true for all electronics.
Only devices with COILS continue to consume TRACE amounts of electricity. For example, a toaster. However even today most appliances KILL the power before it hits a coil.
When you "flick the switch" to most devices today you simply have two wires plugged into the wall. i.e. NO DIFFERENT then the wires in your wall.
Like silver said, a power adapter has no switch so the transformer (coil) found inside it will draw a little power. But the amount is not worth caring about. You waste a hundred times more money every time you STOMP on your gas peddle.
I have a power meter that can measure watts. NOT just kilowatts. I plugged it into the PS3 with it turned off to make sure the power line didn't run into any wasteful components. After 30 minutes it registered ZERO watts.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-07 |
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» .
The PS3 uses 1W in standby (with Wifi off,) and I believe 24W with the Wifi left on for remote play. The bluetooth module is powered up so the controllers or remote can turn on the PS3. If the power switch is turned off, it uses no electricity at all.
"Only devices with COILS continue to consume TRACE amounts of electricity. For example, a toaster. However even today most appliances KILL the power before it hits a coil."
Somewhat right, but a toaster has no coils, just heating elements that are powered only when it's in use. Anything powered by a plug in transformer uses some electricity, even if nothing is plugged into it.
Once again, isoretard FAILS.
The PS3 uses 1W in standby (with Wifi off,) and I believe 24W with the Wifi left on for remote play. The bluetooth module is powered up so the controllers or remote can turn on the PS3. If the power switch is turned off, it uses no electricity at all.
"Only devices with COILS continue to consume TRACE amounts of electricity. For example, a toaster. However even today most appliances KILL the power before it hits a coil."
Somewhat right, but a toaster has no coils, just heating elements that are powered only when it's in use. Anything powered by a plug in transformer uses some electricity, even if nothing is plugged into it.
Once again, isoretard FAILS.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-09 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Too bad! You where so close Mr. Common Douche Bag to acting like a decent human being....better luck next time!!!
A heating element by itself will not draw power when the circuit is OFF. But a heating COIL will. The heating element is COILED in most toasters you know-nothing fool.
Too bad! You where so close Mr. Common Douche Bag to acting like a decent human being....better luck next time!!!
A heating element by itself will not draw power when the circuit is OFF. But a heating COIL will. The heating element is COILED in most toasters you know-nothing fool.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-09 |
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» Toaster operation! Important debate!
"A heating element by itself will not draw power when the circuit is OFF. But a heating COIL will. The heating element is COILED in most toasters you know-nothing fool."
So a heating element consumes electricity when off only if its coiled? HA HA!!! You must have learned electronics at Vaterott or ITT tech! NO COIL, CIRCUIT, HEATER, WHATEVER WILL CONSUME ELECTRICITY WHEN OFF!!!
Look it up and prove me wrong genius! HA HA!
Also, every toaster I've seen has STRAIGHT heating elements arranged in rows. Not that it matters because any circuit that's off will not consume power unless there's some kind of short or a transformer gets constant power and the circuit is switched after that.
Yet again, isoretard not only FAILS but ignores proven scientific fact.
"A heating element by itself will not draw power when the circuit is OFF. But a heating COIL will. The heating element is COILED in most toasters you know-nothing fool."
So a heating element consumes electricity when off only if its coiled? HA HA!!! You must have learned electronics at Vaterott or ITT tech! NO COIL, CIRCUIT, HEATER, WHATEVER WILL CONSUME ELECTRICITY WHEN OFF!!!
Look it up and prove me wrong genius! HA HA!
Also, every toaster I've seen has STRAIGHT heating elements arranged in rows. Not that it matters because any circuit that's off will not consume power unless there's some kind of short or a transformer gets constant power and the circuit is switched after that.
Yet again, isoretard not only FAILS but ignores proven scientific fact.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-09 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I think it's cute that you keep trying!
But, as usual, you are WRONG! Connect a watt meter to a hair dryer and you will see it consume electricity. Same with a transformer.
"Yet again, isoretard not only FAILS but ignores proven scientific fact."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I'll give you a clue to help YOU educate your ignorant brain..... inertia + magnetism
I think it's cute that you keep trying!
But, as usual, you are WRONG! Connect a watt meter to a hair dryer and you will see it consume electricity. Same with a transformer.
"Yet again, isoretard not only FAILS but ignores proven scientific fact."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I'll give you a clue to help YOU educate your ignorant brain..... inertia + magnetism
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-09 |
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» Brilliant ITT graduate here!
I suggest you take your defective hair dryer to a REAL electrician to have it fixed since it should not be using electricty WHEN OFF. Or perhaps you don't know how to measure current. A hair dryer does not have a transformer, and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON.
BTW, wasn't this important conversation about toasters? Oh yeah it was PS3 power consumption, wich it is true uses the most power, unless you have a supercharged PC.
I suggest you take your defective hair dryer to a REAL electrician to have it fixed since it should not be using electricty WHEN OFF. Or perhaps you don't know how to measure current. A hair dryer does not have a transformer, and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON.
BTW, wasn't this important conversation about toasters? Oh yeah it was PS3 power consumption, wich it is true uses the most power, unless you have a supercharged PC.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-09 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I also think it's cute how you refuse to educate yourself. I even gave you direction but as usual it goes right over your head.
Not surprising seeing as how ignorant you are.
Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well.
I also think it's cute how you refuse to educate yourself. I even gave you direction but as usual it goes right over your head.
Not surprising seeing as how ignorant you are.
Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-09 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON."
Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE.
Seriously man...I have NEVER in my LIFE come across someone as ignorant as you are.
Can you PLEASE at least ATTEMPT to go get an education?
"and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON."
Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE.
Seriously man...I have NEVER in my LIFE come across someone as ignorant as you are.
Can you PLEASE at least ATTEMPT to go get an education?
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-10 |
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» that's retard determination!
"I also think it's cute how you refuse to educate yourself. I even gave you direction but as usual it goes right over your head."
Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!
"Not surprising seeing as how ignorant you are."
"Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well."
Why would I reverse what I said? It makes perfect sense to somebody who understands electronics.
"and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON."
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
Sherlock game me a clue to try to understand his demented brain! Leakage? No electricity "leaks" over a switch! Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!
"Seriously man...I have NEVER in my LIFE come across someone as ignorant as you are."
You are perhaps not counting yourself. Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right, it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise.
"Can you PLEASE at least ATTEMPT to go get an education?"
Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area. My education is better than yours, considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests.
I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence.
No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand? Will you ever believe anything your Wii-tard brain hasn't made up? It's not even a difficult concept!
A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!
"I also think it's cute how you refuse to educate yourself. I even gave you direction but as usual it goes right over your head."
Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!
"Not surprising seeing as how ignorant you are."
"Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well."
Why would I reverse what I said? It makes perfect sense to somebody who understands electronics.
"and the blower motor and heating coils are not energized unless it's switched ON."
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
Sherlock game me a clue to try to understand his demented brain! Leakage? No electricity "leaks" over a switch! Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!
"Seriously man...I have NEVER in my LIFE come across someone as ignorant as you are."
You are perhaps not counting yourself. Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right, it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise.
"Can you PLEASE at least ATTEMPT to go get an education?"
Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area. My education is better than yours, considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests.
I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence.
No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand? Will you ever believe anything your Wii-tard brain hasn't made up? It's not even a difficult concept!
A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-10 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!
"Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!"
Regardless of this dumb comment, I still gave you direction in which you had the opportunity to go out and learn something. You failed.
"Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well."
"Why would I reverse what I said? It makes perfect sense to somebody who understands electronics."
OMG!!! I said reverse what "I" said!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More proof that you CAN NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
"No electricity "leaks" over a switch!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said anything about the switch? You don't even know what leakage is......HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!"
And? A transformer was ONE example you idiot. Why do you keep bouncing back and forth? No wonder you can't follow along.
"You are perhaps not counting yourself."
There we go!!!! There's the reversal I was talking about. Do you "get it" yet?
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
Pretty much. I use facts. You use the BS you make up in your dumb mind about things of which you THINK you are right. Do I really need to bring up the wavebird, NDS connecting to the Wii and various other MAJOR MISTAKES on your part? I have plenty of PROOF that you are a flat out moron that doesn't know a damn thing.
"it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise."
Again, I refer to FACTS. Now, when I'm not using facts such as commenting on something specific I just read HOWEVER someone lets me know I read that "something" wrong then I admit I was wrong. Unlike you who needs to be HIT with TONS of FACT BRICKS before you'll ever concede. Which usually you NEVER do. You just disappear from an article completely because you're nothing but a pathetic pu$sy.
"Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! In the "area". Let me guess, the best tech school in S. Dakota? (No offence to S. Dakota, not every state can be the "best").
Oh man! Like anyone believes you after all your many LIES. Go get a life fool!
"My education is better than yours"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I know you are but what am I...... seriously? You are showing your age.
"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests"
I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEATING me. How lame.
"I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence."
Actually, I use the word CUTE when speaking to children.
"No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand?"
I already told you it has NOTHING to do with "energized"....when will you LISTEN?
"A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!"
Transformer again? Do you had ADD or what?
Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actualy consised of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!
"Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!"
Regardless of this dumb comment, I still gave you direction in which you had the opportunity to go out and learn something. You failed.
"Oh well, you can't educate the truly stupid.... I'll wait for you to reverse what I just said. Either here or in another article which you do so well."
"Why would I reverse what I said? It makes perfect sense to somebody who understands electronics."
OMG!!! I said reverse what "I" said!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More proof that you CAN NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
"No electricity "leaks" over a switch!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said anything about the switch? You don't even know what leakage is......HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!"
And? A transformer was ONE example you idiot. Why do you keep bouncing back and forth? No wonder you can't follow along.
"You are perhaps not counting yourself."
There we go!!!! There's the reversal I was talking about. Do you "get it" yet?
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
Pretty much. I use facts. You use the BS you make up in your dumb mind about things of which you THINK you are right. Do I really need to bring up the wavebird, NDS connecting to the Wii and various other MAJOR MISTAKES on your part? I have plenty of PROOF that you are a flat out moron that doesn't know a damn thing.
"it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise."
Again, I refer to FACTS. Now, when I'm not using facts such as commenting on something specific I just read HOWEVER someone lets me know I read that "something" wrong then I admit I was wrong. Unlike you who needs to be HIT with TONS of FACT BRICKS before you'll ever concede. Which usually you NEVER do. You just disappear from an article completely because you're nothing but a pathetic pu$sy.
"Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! In the "area". Let me guess, the best tech school in S. Dakota? (No offence to S. Dakota, not every state can be the "best").
Oh man! Like anyone believes you after all your many LIES. Go get a life fool!
"My education is better than yours"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I know you are but what am I...... seriously? You are showing your age.
"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests"
I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEATING me. How lame.
"I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence."
Actually, I use the word CUTE when speaking to children.
"No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand?"
I already told you it has NOTHING to do with "energized"....when will you LISTEN?
"A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!"
Transformer again? Do you had ADD or what?
Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actualy consised of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-10 |
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» imagine that, he's still here. WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!
"Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!"
Like I said, you're a f@ggot. A "cute" little f@ggot that loves arguing about his Wii
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"Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!"
"Regardless of this dumb comment, I still gave you direction in which you had the opportunity to go out and learn something. You failed."
I failed to learn the nonsensical crap you TRIED to teach, but that can only be a good thing. I wouldn't be able to do my job if I believed the crap you talk about.
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
Uh oh, another clue to understanding isoretard's dumbass theories. Leakage is a dumb word to describe energy wasting. No electricity "leaks," but can instead be wasted as heat, magnetic energy, etc.
"No electricity "leaks" over a switch!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said anything about the switch? You don't even know what leakage is......HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's YOUR definition of leakage, dumbass? Nearly all circuits have some kind of switch (toaster and hair dryer too,) and only devices before the switch can consume power when the switch is off. The switch is nearly always first in the circuit to prevent "leakage." Oh yeah, I already said that but you can't comprehend.
YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!"
And? A transformer was ONE example you idiot. Why do you keep bouncing back and forth? No wonder you can't follow along."
Can you think of another example? Oh yeah, the "coiled" heating element in your defective toaster. If it was in fact using straight heating wires, it doesn't use any electricity when off? Sure, whatever you say. If you did accurately measure current and it's still using electricity, it's probably not safe. But only a complete loser would do those tests to try to prove me wrong.
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
"Pretty much. I use facts. You use the BS you make up in your dumb mind about things of which you THINK you are right. Do I really need to bring up the wavebird, NDS connecting to the Wii and various other MAJOR MISTAKES on your part? I have plenty of PROOF that you are a flat out moron that doesn't know a damn thing."
That sums up your personality. Isoretard is ALWAYS right, and has never said anything WRONG. That's what you believe, right? I swear, he is stupidity incarnate! BTW the Wii-DS connection does suck and is pretty much useless. A wavebird aparently does work on a Wii, and I even corrected myself.
"it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise."
Again, I refer to FACTS. Now, when I'm not using facts such as commenting on something specific I just read HOWEVER someone lets me know I read that "something" wrong then I admit I was wrong. Unlike you who needs to be HIT with TONS of FACT BRICKS before you'll ever concede. Which usually you NEVER do. You just disappear from an article completely because you're nothing but a pathetic pu$sy.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! You probably don't know what a pu$$y is! Where's your facts? All I see is dumbass theories, name calling, and "you're wrong" over and over. You use opinions and present them as fact. I disappear after wasting plenty of my time when it's obvious you'll never understand anything. People on Qj are sick of this s*it you know.
"Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! In the "area". Let me guess, the best tech school in S. Dakota? (No offence to S. Dakota, not every state can be the "best").
Looks like you're pulling crap from your ass again. An idea just pops into your head, then you think "this is right, PROVEN FACT." Perhaps it's a learning disorder, because nobody should believe they're right without PROOF.
"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests"
"I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEA
"Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!"
Like I said, you're a f@ggot. A "cute" little f@ggot that loves arguing about his Wii
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"Direction from you? HA HA! At least you're not a teacher!"
"Regardless of this dumb comment, I still gave you direction in which you had the opportunity to go out and learn something. You failed."
I failed to learn the nonsensical crap you TRIED to teach, but that can only be a good thing. I wouldn't be able to do my job if I believed the crap you talk about.
"Who said anything about energized? The clue I gave you is about LEAKAGE."
Uh oh, another clue to understanding isoretard's dumbass theories. Leakage is a dumb word to describe energy wasting. No electricity "leaks," but can instead be wasted as heat, magnetic energy, etc.
"No electricity "leaks" over a switch!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said anything about the switch? You don't even know what leakage is......HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's YOUR definition of leakage, dumbass? Nearly all circuits have some kind of switch (toaster and hair dryer too,) and only devices before the switch can consume power when the switch is off. The switch is nearly always first in the circuit to prevent "leakage." Oh yeah, I already said that but you can't comprehend.
YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Trace amounts of electricity are consumed by an always on transformer with no load, or substantially more when connected to a load!"
And? A transformer was ONE example you idiot. Why do you keep bouncing back and forth? No wonder you can't follow along."
Can you think of another example? Oh yeah, the "coiled" heating element in your defective toaster. If it was in fact using straight heating wires, it doesn't use any electricity when off? Sure, whatever you say. If you did accurately measure current and it's still using electricity, it's probably not safe. But only a complete loser would do those tests to try to prove me wrong.
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
"Pretty much. I use facts. You use the BS you make up in your dumb mind about things of which you THINK you are right. Do I really need to bring up the wavebird, NDS connecting to the Wii and various other MAJOR MISTAKES on your part? I have plenty of PROOF that you are a flat out moron that doesn't know a damn thing."
That sums up your personality. Isoretard is ALWAYS right, and has never said anything WRONG. That's what you believe, right? I swear, he is stupidity incarnate! BTW the Wii-DS connection does suck and is pretty much useless. A wavebird aparently does work on a Wii, and I even corrected myself.
"it would be impossible to prove to you otherwise."
Again, I refer to FACTS. Now, when I'm not using facts such as commenting on something specific I just read HOWEVER someone lets me know I read that "something" wrong then I admit I was wrong. Unlike you who needs to be HIT with TONS of FACT BRICKS before you'll ever concede. Which usually you NEVER do. You just disappear from an article completely because you're nothing but a pathetic pu$sy.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! You probably don't know what a pu$$y is! Where's your facts? All I see is dumbass theories, name calling, and "you're wrong" over and over. You use opinions and present them as fact. I disappear after wasting plenty of my time when it's obvious you'll never understand anything. People on Qj are sick of this s*it you know.
"Already done by one of the best tech schools in the area."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! In the "area". Let me guess, the best tech school in S. Dakota? (No offence to S. Dakota, not every state can be the "best").
Looks like you're pulling crap from your ass again. An idea just pops into your head, then you think "this is right, PROVEN FACT." Perhaps it's a learning disorder, because nobody should believe they're right without PROOF.
"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests"
"I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEA
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"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests" "I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEATING me. How lame."
Yep, prove me wrong, I'm waiting. Make a youtube video!
"I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence." Actually, I use the word CUTE when speaking to children."
Oh s*it, he's a pedophile. That's why he loves the Wii! He pulls up to children in his black full size van then shows them his Wii, both of them! That's sick dude!
"No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand?" I already told you it has NOTHING to do with "energized"....when will you LISTEN?"
An energized circuit is one that recieves power. I'd say that's pretty important in figuring if there's electricity consumption. Use your imaginary "facts" to "prove" me wrong, this should be funny!
"A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!" Transformer again? "Do you had ADD or what?"
No, I do not "had" ADD. More proof you can't write!
"Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actualy consised of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!"
Still believe you're right? Now you're changing my words to make it seem you're right about something! Heating wires, like any wire, can be coiled. Coiling a wire increases it's magnetic force, so it's used mainly in transformers. A coiled heating element is still refered to as a heating element, since it makes heat instead of a magnetic field (like a coil.)
Enough of this, I like educating people, but only those intelligent enough to understand.
Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y" because you always need the last word and I've got better things to do, loser!
"considering I'M RIGHT, and it can BE PROVEN with simple tests" "I already told you to go get a watt meter. I already said it can be proven. Now here you are REPEATING me. How lame."
Yep, prove me wrong, I'm waiting. Make a youtube video!
"I find it troubling you love using the word cute so much. Probably that Wii influence." Actually, I use the word CUTE when speaking to children."
Oh s*it, he's a pedophile. That's why he loves the Wii! He pulls up to children in his black full size van then shows them his Wii, both of them! That's sick dude!
"No current will be used by a circuit that's switched off, or de-energized! When will you ever understand?" I already told you it has NOTHING to do with "energized"....when will you LISTEN?"
An energized circuit is one that recieves power. I'd say that's pretty important in figuring if there's electricity consumption. Use your imaginary "facts" to "prove" me wrong, this should be funny!
"A transformer will use trace amounts of electricity if left plugged in, anything after a swich will use no electricity when switched off!" Transformer again? "Do you had ADD or what?"
No, I do not "had" ADD. More proof you can't write!
"Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actualy consised of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!"
Still believe you're right? Now you're changing my words to make it seem you're right about something! Heating wires, like any wire, can be coiled. Coiling a wire increases it's magnetic force, so it's used mainly in transformers. A coiled heating element is still refered to as a heating element, since it makes heat instead of a magnetic field (like a coil.)
Enough of this, I like educating people, but only those intelligent enough to understand.
Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y" because you always need the last word and I've got better things to do, loser!
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"Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!"
"Like I said, you're a f@ggot. A "cute" little f@ggot that loves arguing about his Wii"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Wow! I must have really gotten under your skin! You've completely lost it. Give up before you kill yourself.
"I failed to learn the nonsensical crap you TRIED to teach, but that can only be a good thing. I wouldn't be able to do my job if I believed the crap you talk about."
HAHAHA!!!!!!! You claim you went to the top tech school in your area yet you know nothing about inertia and magnetism. Like I said, get your money back.
"Leakage is a dumb word to describe energy wasting. No electricity "leaks," but can instead be wasted as heat, magnetic energy, etc."
Actually, it's a very common word. Leave it to you to call reality dumb. Just like all Wii owners are gay? Face it dude, you are an idiot. A know nothing idiot.
"What's YOUR definition of leakage, dumbass?"
Unlike you, I don't redefine words to suit my needs.
"Nearly all circuits have some kind of switch"
Oh man! You truly have a reading comprehension problem. I never said anything about there being NO switch. I said a switch had nothing to do with it.
You expect people believe you graduated from a college? There is no way in HELL you graduate from anything with your piss poor grammar, piss poor spelling and complete lack of knowledge in just about everything.
"The switch is nearly always first in the circuit to prevent "leakage.""
WRONG! That is a complete miss-use of the term leakage.
"Oh yeah, I already said that but you can't comprehend."
You keep repeating yourself but only about all the wrong things.
"YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Good parrot!
"Can you think of another example?"
I already gave plenty. Thanks for proving you can't read.
"Oh yeah, the "coiled" heating element in your defective toaster. If it was in fact using straight heating wires, it doesn't use any electricity when off? Sure, whatever you say. If you did accurately measure current and it's still using electricity, it's probably not safe. But only a complete loser would do those tests to try to prove me wrong."
Actually, PLENTY of people have performed such tests. I performed it myself when I first learned about it because I though it was a bunch of BS. That was a while ago. I haven't performed the test since. So whatever made you think I just NOW performed it only proves how you make up crap in your mind and act on it. Moron!
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... Seing? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Isoretard is ALWAYS right, and has never said anything WRONG."
WOW!!!! There's that reading comprehension problem again. I just got done explaining how I am WRONG in certain situations. Are you this stupid? Did you seriously not understand that?
"That's what you believe, right?"
Read above moron!
"I swear, he is stupidity incarnate!"
There's that college education!
"BTW the Wii-DS connection does suck and is pretty much useless."
And? You said Nintendo NEVER provided it when in FACT it's been around for a long time. It's quality is besides the point.
"A wavebird aparently does work on a Wii, and I even corrected myself."
WRONG! You WERE corrected. Not the other way around. Many people SLAMMED you with facts. To state you corrected yourself means you found your own mistake then corrected it on your own. This must be more of that college education at work!
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... aparently? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! You probably don't know what a pu$$y is!"
1. Good parrot.
2. Gee, did that one take you long?
"Where's your facts?"
About this article? All over the internet. I'm not going to research for you. Get your own education. In other articles, I've posted many links as proof to things.
"You us
"Like I said, it's cute that you keep trying!!!!"
"Like I said, you're a f@ggot. A "cute" little f@ggot that loves arguing about his Wii"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Wow! I must have really gotten under your skin! You've completely lost it. Give up before you kill yourself.
"I failed to learn the nonsensical crap you TRIED to teach, but that can only be a good thing. I wouldn't be able to do my job if I believed the crap you talk about."
HAHAHA!!!!!!! You claim you went to the top tech school in your area yet you know nothing about inertia and magnetism. Like I said, get your money back.
"Leakage is a dumb word to describe energy wasting. No electricity "leaks," but can instead be wasted as heat, magnetic energy, etc."
Actually, it's a very common word. Leave it to you to call reality dumb. Just like all Wii owners are gay? Face it dude, you are an idiot. A know nothing idiot.
"What's YOUR definition of leakage, dumbass?"
Unlike you, I don't redefine words to suit my needs.
"Nearly all circuits have some kind of switch"
Oh man! You truly have a reading comprehension problem. I never said anything about there being NO switch. I said a switch had nothing to do with it.
You expect people believe you graduated from a college? There is no way in HELL you graduate from anything with your piss poor grammar, piss poor spelling and complete lack of knowledge in just about everything.
"The switch is nearly always first in the circuit to prevent "leakage.""
WRONG! That is a complete miss-use of the term leakage.
"Oh yeah, I already said that but you can't comprehend."
You keep repeating yourself but only about all the wrong things.
"YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Good parrot!
"Can you think of another example?"
I already gave plenty. Thanks for proving you can't read.
"Oh yeah, the "coiled" heating element in your defective toaster. If it was in fact using straight heating wires, it doesn't use any electricity when off? Sure, whatever you say. If you did accurately measure current and it's still using electricity, it's probably not safe. But only a complete loser would do those tests to try to prove me wrong."
Actually, PLENTY of people have performed such tests. I performed it myself when I first learned about it because I though it was a bunch of BS. That was a while ago. I haven't performed the test since. So whatever made you think I just NOW performed it only proves how you make up crap in your mind and act on it. Moron!
"Seing as YOU always think YOU'RE right"
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... Seing? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Isoretard is ALWAYS right, and has never said anything WRONG."
WOW!!!! There's that reading comprehension problem again. I just got done explaining how I am WRONG in certain situations. Are you this stupid? Did you seriously not understand that?
"That's what you believe, right?"
Read above moron!
"I swear, he is stupidity incarnate!"
There's that college education!
"BTW the Wii-DS connection does suck and is pretty much useless."
And? You said Nintendo NEVER provided it when in FACT it's been around for a long time. It's quality is besides the point.
"A wavebird aparently does work on a Wii, and I even corrected myself."
WRONG! You WERE corrected. Not the other way around. Many people SLAMMED you with facts. To state you corrected yourself means you found your own mistake then corrected it on your own. This must be more of that college education at work!
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... aparently? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! You probably don't know what a pu$$y is!"
1. Good parrot.
2. Gee, did that one take you long?
"Where's your facts?"
About this article? All over the internet. I'm not going to research for you. Get your own education. In other articles, I've posted many links as proof to things.
"You us
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"You use opinions and present them as fact."
No, I present factual information. If you want proof either I'll provide it if I feel like it or you need to walk your fingers on your own.
"I disappear after wasting plenty of my time when it's obvious you'll never understand anything."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
"People on Qj are sick of this s*it you know."
Yes, they are very much of you. In fact many people state frequently that they are sick and tired of you and how I own your pathetic ass.
"Looks like you're pulling crap from your ass again. An idea just pops into your head, then you think "this is right, PROVEN FACT." Perhaps it's a learning disorder, because nobody should believe they're right without PROOF."
That would be true if I stated you went to a S. Dakota school. But I didn't. It was a guess. Seems I was right. Only you make up crap in your head. In fact I've stated that many times and here are parroting it back to me. Good parrot!!!!!
"Yep, prove me wrong, I'm waiting. Make a youtube video! "
Why the hell would I do that? That would be one long ass video!!!! I ran 24 hour tests....oh.....I get it!!! You once again MADE UP BS in your empty brain and thought this was a high consumption rate? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! What a loser!!!!
"Oh s*it, he's a pedophile."
All parents are pedophiles? All family members? All teachers? Anyone who comes into contact with children? Here you go again...being the douche bag you are so good at being.
"That's why he loves the Wii! He pulls up to children in his black full size van then shows them his Wii, both of them! That's sick dude! "
More douchy comments form Mr. Common Douche Bag.
"An energized circuit is one that recieves power."
And? That has nothing to do with this. You are VERY lost.
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... recieves? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"No, I do not "had" ADD. More proof you can't write!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! If you say so!
"Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actually consisted of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!"
"Still believe you're right?"
I don't have to believe anything about myself.
FACT - you said NO toaster has coils
FACT - toasters can have coils - This is FACT based on heat elements being made up of coiled wire.
See how that works? Now I can link you to wiki about heating element but I'm sure even a dipsh|t like yourself can figure it out. Just because I don't provide the link doesn't mean it's not fact.....see how THAT works? Do you "get it" yet?
"Now you're changing my words to make it seem you're right about something!"
Oh really?
Mr. Common Douch Bag said "but a toaster has no coils"
As you can see, I didn't twist anything around. You're an idiot and this proves it. You talk and talk and talk yet EVEN YOU don't know what you are saying.
The above quote is a FACT. You know, that thing you said I never provide. Which is just another LIE from you.
"Heating wires, like any wire, can be coiled."
So you finally went out and used your own brain and found your way to Wiki....GOOD BOY!!!
"A coiled heating element is still refered to as a heating element, since it makes heat instead of a magnetic field (like a coil.)"
AND? IT'S STILL A COIL. It's still effected by inertia and magnetism. Now here is where you ASSume I mean on a large scale.
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... refered? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Enough of this, I like educating people, but only those intelligent enough to understand."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y"
"You use opinions and present them as fact."
No, I present factual information. If you want proof either I'll provide it if I feel like it or you need to walk your fingers on your own.
"I disappear after wasting plenty of my time when it's obvious you'll never understand anything."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
"People on Qj are sick of this s*it you know."
Yes, they are very much of you. In fact many people state frequently that they are sick and tired of you and how I own your pathetic ass.
"Looks like you're pulling crap from your ass again. An idea just pops into your head, then you think "this is right, PROVEN FACT." Perhaps it's a learning disorder, because nobody should believe they're right without PROOF."
That would be true if I stated you went to a S. Dakota school. But I didn't. It was a guess. Seems I was right. Only you make up crap in your head. In fact I've stated that many times and here are parroting it back to me. Good parrot!!!!!
"Yep, prove me wrong, I'm waiting. Make a youtube video! "
Why the hell would I do that? That would be one long ass video!!!! I ran 24 hour tests....oh.....I get it!!! You once again MADE UP BS in your empty brain and thought this was a high consumption rate? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! What a loser!!!!
"Oh s*it, he's a pedophile."
All parents are pedophiles? All family members? All teachers? Anyone who comes into contact with children? Here you go again...being the douche bag you are so good at being.
"That's why he loves the Wii! He pulls up to children in his black full size van then shows them his Wii, both of them! That's sick dude! "
More douchy comments form Mr. Common Douche Bag.
"An energized circuit is one that recieves power."
And? That has nothing to do with this. You are VERY lost.
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... recieves? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"No, I do not "had" ADD. More proof you can't write!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! If you say so!
"Here's another clue which I gave you in another article.....a heating element can be a COIL!!!!!!!!!!! So I refer back to your previous comments about how toasters DO NOT have coils.....HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! So you went to the best tech school and never knew that many applications of wire actually consisted of COILED wire? Oh man....go get your money back! Next you're going to tell us light bulbs have wires and not COILS inside of them....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!"
"Still believe you're right?"
I don't have to believe anything about myself.
FACT - you said NO toaster has coils
FACT - toasters can have coils - This is FACT based on heat elements being made up of coiled wire.
See how that works? Now I can link you to wiki about heating element but I'm sure even a dipsh|t like yourself can figure it out. Just because I don't provide the link doesn't mean it's not fact.....see how THAT works? Do you "get it" yet?
"Now you're changing my words to make it seem you're right about something!"
Oh really?
Mr. Common Douch Bag said "but a toaster has no coils"
As you can see, I didn't twist anything around. You're an idiot and this proves it. You talk and talk and talk yet EVEN YOU don't know what you are saying.
The above quote is a FACT. You know, that thing you said I never provide. Which is just another LIE from you.
"Heating wires, like any wire, can be coiled."
So you finally went out and used your own brain and found your way to Wiki....GOOD BOY!!!
"A coiled heating element is still refered to as a heating element, since it makes heat instead of a magnetic field (like a coil.)"
AND? IT'S STILL A COIL. It's still effected by inertia and magnetism. Now here is where you ASSume I mean on a large scale.
Since you brought up a typo of mine.... refered? Is that more of your college education? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Enough of this, I like educating people, but only those intelligent enough to understand."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y"
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"Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y" because you always need the last word and I've got better things to do, loser! "
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
I'll give you yet ANOTHER clue. Ghost voltage isn't really about GHOSTS!!!! Now you have something else to go learn. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
"Now I will disappear "like a pu$$y" because you always need the last word and I've got better things to do, loser! "
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
I'll give you yet ANOTHER clue. Ghost voltage isn't really about GHOSTS!!!! Now you have something else to go learn. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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Was I supposed to read that? Do you mean PHANTOM VOLTAGE? Does that have anything to do with energy consumption?
Was I supposed to read that? Do you mean PHANTOM VOLTAGE? Does that have anything to do with energy consumption?
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"Was I supposed to read that? Do you mean PHANTOM VOLTAGE? Does that have anything to do with energy consumption?"
No, you MORON....GHOST VOLTAGE. Did that idiot tech school you went to teach you to call it phantom voltage? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
It's called both you idiot. Both terms are used.
http://www.fluke.de/comx/pubs.aspx?locale+uken+mag+testit+issue+230+page+6+template+testit-t1
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5129/is_200401/ai_n18565354
http://www.constructionequipment.com/article/CA469173.html?industryid+23390
http://forums.mikeholt.com/archive/index.php/t-81072.html
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.home.repair/2006-08/msg02836.html
Now go learn something and maybe you'll be able to hold a conversation around here.
"Was I supposed to read that? Do you mean PHANTOM VOLTAGE? Does that have anything to do with energy consumption?"
No, you MORON....GHOST VOLTAGE. Did that idiot tech school you went to teach you to call it phantom voltage? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
It's called both you idiot. Both terms are used.
http://www.fluke.de/comx/pubs.aspx?locale+uken+mag+testit+issue+230+page+6+template+testit-t1
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5129/is_200401/ai_n18565354
http://www.constructionequipment.com/article/CA469173.html?industryid+23390
http://forums.mikeholt.com/archive/index.php/t-81072.html
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.home.repair/2006-08/msg02836.html
Now go learn something and maybe you'll be able to hold a conversation around here.
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Proof of your dumbass theories is online links? That explains it! You took an online course! You have some BS online degree! I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!
Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience. It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further.
Assuming that's possible, anyway.
Proof of your dumbass theories is online links? That explains it! You took an online course! You have some BS online degree! I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!
Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience. It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further.
Assuming that's possible, anyway.
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"Proof of your dumbass theories is online links?"
Wow! You are SO LOST it's sad. You tried to CORRECT my use of the term "ghost voltage". Those links prove to others that you are an idiot. Those links do not prove any theories.
Had you been able to READ you would have known that without my having to explain it to you.
"That explains it! You took an online course!"
Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag.
"You have some BS online degree!"
I do? Wow!!! First time I heard of it!
Are you going to grow up any time soon?
"I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!"
If this helps you sleep at night then roll with it.
"Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience."
Like you? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! "embarrasing" - Is that the level education you recommend? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!
"Proof of your dumbass theories is online links?"
Wow! You are SO LOST it's sad. You tried to CORRECT my use of the term "ghost voltage". Those links prove to others that you are an idiot. Those links do not prove any theories.
Had you been able to READ you would have known that without my having to explain it to you.
"That explains it! You took an online course!"
Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag.
"You have some BS online degree!"
I do? Wow!!! First time I heard of it!
Are you going to grow up any time soon?
"I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!"
If this helps you sleep at night then roll with it.
"Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience."
Like you? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! "embarrasing" - Is that the level education you recommend? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!
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"Proof of your dumbass theories is online links?"
Wow! You are SO LOST it's sad. You tried to CORRECT my use of the term "ghost voltage". Those links prove to others that you are an idiot. Those links do not prove any theories.
Had you been able to READ you would have known that without my having to explain it to you.
Correction, have I cared to read the BS links you came up with I would know, what again? "Those links prove to others that you are an idiot." Oh yes, I'm sure it does.
"That explains it! You took an online course!"
"Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag."
Fact: Online degrees have no value and represent the worst in education. Fact: isoretard knows almost nothing about electricity other than what he looked up on Wikipedia, and he gives "clues" he thinks make him look smart, yet he doesn't even know what they mean or that they're completely irrelevant in this topic!
Here's a clue, f@ggot.
It's what you are! Do you get "it" yet?
Dumbass.
"You have some BS online degree!"
I do? Wow!!! First time I heard of it!
Were you that f*cked up when you "graduated" from a cheezy online university you don't remember?
That explains why you didn't learn anything.
"Are you going to grow up any time soon?"
When talking to children (or adults with the brain of children) I have to dumb down my responses aimed at you.
"I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!"
"If this helps you sleep at night then roll with it."
More denial. Don't even need to consider the fact the crap you made up is complete nonsense, because that would make you WRONG.
"Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience."
Like you? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!"
Sure, you might learn something factual. Doesn't have to be me though. Too bad you never admit being wrong, because that is part of an INTELLIGENT person's learning process.
"It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! "embarrasing" - Is that the level education you recommend?"
Wow he figured out how to run spell check! Any words underlined by the program can be turned into insults! How smart!
"That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?"
Yes, it is. As an adult I have a right to my own opinion.
With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of seeming average intelligence.
"HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!"
I know you are but what am I? Yes its childish, but it's obvious who I'm dealing with. I need to imagine that I, like you, have the brain of a 12 year old so I can have a chance of getting through to you. Unfortunately due to your extreme Wii-tard syndrome, I have FAILED.
"Proof of your dumbass theories is online links?"
Wow! You are SO LOST it's sad. You tried to CORRECT my use of the term "ghost voltage". Those links prove to others that you are an idiot. Those links do not prove any theories.
Had you been able to READ you would have known that without my having to explain it to you.
Correction, have I cared to read the BS links you came up with I would know, what again? "Those links prove to others that you are an idiot." Oh yes, I'm sure it does.
"That explains it! You took an online course!"
"Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag."
Fact: Online degrees have no value and represent the worst in education. Fact: isoretard knows almost nothing about electricity other than what he looked up on Wikipedia, and he gives "clues" he thinks make him look smart, yet he doesn't even know what they mean or that they're completely irrelevant in this topic!
Here's a clue, f@ggot.
It's what you are! Do you get "it" yet?
Dumbass.
"You have some BS online degree!"
I do? Wow!!! First time I heard of it!
Were you that f*cked up when you "graduated" from a cheezy online university you don't remember?
That explains why you didn't learn anything.
"Are you going to grow up any time soon?"
When talking to children (or adults with the brain of children) I have to dumb down my responses aimed at you.
"I don't mean bachelor of science, either. No wonder all the crap about coiled heating elements and all the other BS you argue is a complete lie!"
"If this helps you sleep at night then roll with it."
More denial. Don't even need to consider the fact the crap you made up is complete nonsense, because that would make you WRONG.
"Go to a real school and learn from people that have experience."
Like you? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!"
Sure, you might learn something factual. Doesn't have to be me though. Too bad you never admit being wrong, because that is part of an INTELLIGENT person's learning process.
"It would also help to talk like an adult and make sure you're right before embarrasing yourself further."
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! "embarrasing" - Is that the level education you recommend?"
Wow he figured out how to run spell check! Any words underlined by the program can be turned into insults! How smart!
"That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?"
Yes, it is. As an adult I have a right to my own opinion.
With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of seeming average intelligence.
"HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!"
I know you are but what am I? Yes its childish, but it's obvious who I'm dealing with. I need to imagine that I, like you, have the brain of a 12 year old so I can have a chance of getting through to you. Unfortunately due to your extreme Wii-tard syndrome, I have FAILED.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-06-23 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"he'll come back here too!"
And why not? I'm here after you posted this 50 minutes ago, you came back after 6 DAYS!!!! That's how pathetic you are. Also, who are you talking to? You have NO friends here. No one cares about you or what you say. It's hilarious that you actually think you have an audience to talk to.
"Correction, have I cared to read the BS links you came up with I would know, what again?"
1. Correction, it's HAD you cared. Moron!
2. Proof that you ignore FACTS, PROOF and all DATA around you.
That explains why you're so damn ignorant of everything.
"Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag."
"Fact: Online degrees have no value and represent the worst in education. Fact: isoretard knows almost nothing about electricity other than what he looked up on Wikipedia, and he gives "clues" he thinks make him look smart, yet he doesn't even know what they mean or that they're completely irrelevant in this topic!"
FACT - Nothing you said has ANYTHING to do with the topic or what has been said. This is just your normal BS to distract from the fact that I am RIGHT about GHOST VOLTAGE and your IGNORANCE lead you to ATTEMPT to correct me. But as always, you FAILED.
"Here's a clue, f@ggot"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It's what you are! Do you get "it" yet?"
OH MAN!!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!! Do you see this everyone? For about the 10th time this pathetic little boy has COPIED ME and what I've said to HIM in the past. And, he got it WRONG!!!! Do you "get it" yet?
OMG!!!! Too funny!!!!
"Dumbass."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Were you that f*cked up when you "graduated" from a cheezy online university you don't remember?"
I guess so!
"That explains why you didn't learn anything."
Is that it?
"When talking to children (or adults with the brain of children) I have to dumb down my responses aimed at you."
OMG!!!!!!! I swear, I'm typing responses as I read them.....AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something more copy cat crap from Mr. Common Douche Bag....THIS IS TOO DAMN FUNNY!!!!!!!!
"More denial. Don't even need to consider the fact the crap you made up is complete nonsense, because that would make you WRONG."
I posted FACTS. If you can't read then too bad for you. Either way, this horse is dead. You can keep beating it if you want it only makes you look more and more pathetic!
"Sure, you might learn something factual."
The only thing I would learn from your school is how to LIE, mispell and have the worlds worse grammar. Will they also teach me to be a douche bag like you as well?
"Too bad you never admit being wrong"
Again, how many time are you going to lie about this? Everyone has already seen PROOF of this being a lie.
"because that is part of an INTELLIGENT person's learning process."
WRONG!!! That's kowledge, not intelligence. Go back to school.....fool!
"Wow he figured out how to run spell check!"
Don't need spell check. Your posts are riddled with errors!!!! MOST OF THEM!!!! So much so, I probably didn't even get all of them.
"Any words underlined by the program can be turned into insults! How smart!"
That's your own fault. If you're going to run around acting like a damn child claiming that you went to the BEST TECH SCHOOL AROUND then better not make such childish mistakes. These aren't TYPOS I'm point out they are plan old poor grammar mistakes.
"That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?"
"Yes, it is. As an adult I have a right to my own opinion. "
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW! No wonder everyone thinks you're a douch bag. You think Wiitard, f@ggot, calling everyone homosexuals is acting like an adult.
Oh man.... you are TOO much!
"With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of se
"he'll come back here too!"
And why not? I'm here after you posted this 50 minutes ago, you came back after 6 DAYS!!!! That's how pathetic you are. Also, who are you talking to? You have NO friends here. No one cares about you or what you say. It's hilarious that you actually think you have an audience to talk to.
"Correction, have I cared to read the BS links you came up with I would know, what again?"
1. Correction, it's HAD you cared. Moron!
2. Proof that you ignore FACTS, PROOF and all DATA around you.
That explains why you're so damn ignorant of everything.
"Where did you see the word COURSE anywhere? More lies being generated by Mr. Common Douche Bag."
"Fact: Online degrees have no value and represent the worst in education. Fact: isoretard knows almost nothing about electricity other than what he looked up on Wikipedia, and he gives "clues" he thinks make him look smart, yet he doesn't even know what they mean or that they're completely irrelevant in this topic!"
FACT - Nothing you said has ANYTHING to do with the topic or what has been said. This is just your normal BS to distract from the fact that I am RIGHT about GHOST VOLTAGE and your IGNORANCE lead you to ATTEMPT to correct me. But as always, you FAILED.
"Here's a clue, f@ggot"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It's what you are! Do you get "it" yet?"
OH MAN!!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!! Do you see this everyone? For about the 10th time this pathetic little boy has COPIED ME and what I've said to HIM in the past. And, he got it WRONG!!!! Do you "get it" yet?
OMG!!!! Too funny!!!!
"Dumbass."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Were you that f*cked up when you "graduated" from a cheezy online university you don't remember?"
I guess so!
"That explains why you didn't learn anything."
Is that it?
"When talking to children (or adults with the brain of children) I have to dumb down my responses aimed at you."
OMG!!!!!!! I swear, I'm typing responses as I read them.....AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something more copy cat crap from Mr. Common Douche Bag....THIS IS TOO DAMN FUNNY!!!!!!!!
"More denial. Don't even need to consider the fact the crap you made up is complete nonsense, because that would make you WRONG."
I posted FACTS. If you can't read then too bad for you. Either way, this horse is dead. You can keep beating it if you want it only makes you look more and more pathetic!
"Sure, you might learn something factual."
The only thing I would learn from your school is how to LIE, mispell and have the worlds worse grammar. Will they also teach me to be a douche bag like you as well?
"Too bad you never admit being wrong"
Again, how many time are you going to lie about this? Everyone has already seen PROOF of this being a lie.
"because that is part of an INTELLIGENT person's learning process."
WRONG!!! That's kowledge, not intelligence. Go back to school.....fool!
"Wow he figured out how to run spell check!"
Don't need spell check. Your posts are riddled with errors!!!! MOST OF THEM!!!! So much so, I probably didn't even get all of them.
"Any words underlined by the program can be turned into insults! How smart!"
That's your own fault. If you're going to run around acting like a damn child claiming that you went to the BEST TECH SCHOOL AROUND then better not make such childish mistakes. These aren't TYPOS I'm point out they are plan old poor grammar mistakes.
"That is the funniest thing you have EVER SAID!!!!!!!!! Talk like an adult? Is Wiitard an adult expression? Is saying ALL Wii owners are women *****S and old people an adult way to talk?"
"Yes, it is. As an adult I have a right to my own opinion. "
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW! No wonder everyone thinks you're a douch bag. You think Wiitard, f@ggot, calling everyone homosexuals is acting like an adult.
Oh man.... you are TOO much!
"With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of se
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of seeming average intelligence."
Look at the stars.......you fail!
"I know you are but what am I?"
This is all you are.....and all you will ever be.
"have the brain of a 12 year old"
Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! A THIRD ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you EVER come up with anything on your own? Ayt least STEAL from other people, but don't steal from the SAME PERSON you try to insult..... WOW!!!!!!!!
"Unfortunately due to your extreme Wii-tard syndrome, I have FAILED."
Sleep tight, you cute little homophobic POS.
"With your excessive use of the word cute, yes talking like an adult could have advantages if you can pull it off. You might give the illusion of seeming average intelligence."
Look at the stars.......you fail!
"I know you are but what am I?"
This is all you are.....and all you will ever be.
"have the brain of a 12 year old"
Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! A THIRD ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you EVER come up with anything on your own? Ayt least STEAL from other people, but don't steal from the SAME PERSON you try to insult..... WOW!!!!!!!!
"Unfortunately due to your extreme Wii-tard syndrome, I have FAILED."
Sleep tight, you cute little homophobic POS.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-06-24 |
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» .
By coming back to defend the Wii after over 20 days, isoretard has proven the following.
His marriage is failing or has failed.
He is a complete loser with no life.
I have offended him deeply about all his personal issues.
He even checks ALL the topics daily to see if I have replied.
Full stars (initally) indicate he rates his posts higher with multiple computers he probably owns. Wow! He agrees with himself!
Like always, he denies FACT.
What point are you trying to prove? Do you think anybody even reads your BS anymore?
HA HA HA HA!!!!
By coming back to defend the Wii after over 20 days, isoretard has proven the following.
His marriage is failing or has failed.
He is a complete loser with no life.
I have offended him deeply about all his personal issues.
He even checks ALL the topics daily to see if I have replied.
Full stars (initally) indicate he rates his posts higher with multiple computers he probably owns. Wow! He agrees with himself!
Like always, he denies FACT.
What point are you trying to prove? Do you think anybody even reads your BS anymore?
HA HA HA HA!!!!
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"By coming back to defend the Wii after over 20 days, isoretard has proven the following."
20 days? I came back after 50 minutes from your post. YOU'RE the one that came back after 6 days!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You're such a f-ing moron you can't even figure out how to use a clock or a calendar!!!
"His marriage is failing or has failed......"
Oh man!!!! All these comments prove is that I OWN YOUR ASS. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Like always, he denies FACT."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Do you think anybody even reads your BS anymore?"
Obviously, they do. Your BS theory on how I own dozens of computers to rate myself is pure stupidity and an obvious attempt to help you sleep better at night.
"HA HA HA HA!!!!"
WOW!!!! ANOTHER COPYCAT REMARK.....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
"By coming back to defend the Wii after over 20 days, isoretard has proven the following."
20 days? I came back after 50 minutes from your post. YOU'RE the one that came back after 6 days!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You're such a f-ing moron you can't even figure out how to use a clock or a calendar!!!
"His marriage is failing or has failed......"
Oh man!!!! All these comments prove is that I OWN YOUR ASS. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
"Like always, he denies FACT."
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
"Do you think anybody even reads your BS anymore?"
Obviously, they do. Your BS theory on how I own dozens of computers to rate myself is pure stupidity and an obvious attempt to help you sleep better at night.
"HA HA HA HA!!!!"
WOW!!!! ANOTHER COPYCAT REMARK.....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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by avatar76 - 2008-06-03 |
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» It'd probably use nothing
That flick switch at the back would probably kill the power completely to the PS3, much like the power switch on the back of some PCs.
So when you've got it like that it would probably use nothing.
The 360 doesn't have that so I normally just switch it off at the wall when I'm not using it, it's surprising to see for me just how much the both the 360 and the PS3 are sucking down. It's certainly made me reconsider the way that I use the 360 to watch most of my TV shows through its media extender function. If I bought an LCD tv with a built in PVR it would have to be better in terms of power consumption?
That flick switch at the back would probably kill the power completely to the PS3, much like the power switch on the back of some PCs.
So when you've got it like that it would probably use nothing.
The 360 doesn't have that so I normally just switch it off at the wall when I'm not using it, it's surprising to see for me just how much the both the 360 and the PS3 are sucking down. It's certainly made me reconsider the way that I use the 360 to watch most of my TV shows through its media extender function. If I bought an LCD tv with a built in PVR it would have to be better in terms of power consumption?
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by instantstupor - 2008-06-03 |
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» Turning off or unplugging the console...
Would not enable you to turn on the system via the PS button or use remote play. The latter is not so important, but the first would really be a pain to be without. And remember, we are looking in terms of 24/7 here. $4.70 a week running full time, so if you somehow play your system even 168 HOURS A MONTH you're looking at $4.70. If you're normal, you probably wouldn't even play half that, so you're looking at like $2 for your average gamer a month. If you're hurting for that a month, you probably shouldn't be spending any money on gaming.
Would not enable you to turn on the system via the PS button or use remote play. The latter is not so important, but the first would really be a pain to be without. And remember, we are looking in terms of 24/7 here. $4.70 a week running full time, so if you somehow play your system even 168 HOURS A MONTH you're looking at $4.70. If you're normal, you probably wouldn't even play half that, so you're looking at like $2 for your average gamer a month. If you're hurting for that a month, you probably shouldn't be spending any money on gaming.
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by Orlyeh - 2008-06-03 |
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» Ausfalia
This "study" isn't surprising coming from a country which banned incandescent lightbulbs for fear of manmade global warming. Personal carbon credits are next.
This "study" isn't surprising coming from a country which banned incandescent lightbulbs for fear of manmade global warming. Personal carbon credits are next.
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by dtom2444 - 2008-06-03 |
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» nope
it says 33.34 kilowats PER HOUR, which implies almost PER HOUR
it says 33.34 kilowats PER HOUR, which implies almost PER HOUR
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by Geosondaman - 2008-06-03 |
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» he's right
To be more specific, a PS3 running a game non-stop for a week will consume as much as 33.34 kilowatts per hour, which roughly translates to US$ 4.75 dollars. On the other hand, the Xbox 360 uses 26 kilowatts per hour when left running a game for the same length of time, which is worth US$ 3.70.
So if a PS3 runs non-stop for a single week, per hour on average it uses 33.34 kilowatts, so that means in a single week, you would have to pay 4.75 dollars. But how many ppl are actually leaving their PS3s on 24/7? Not that many, so by a weekly basis, we are using less than 4.75 dollars, much less, to be exact, if ur an avid gamer. Ok, let's say everyday you play 5 hours of games, in a week that's 35 hours. How many hours are there in a week? as someone said, 168 hours, and if u play this many hours, which equals a week, u pay 4.75 US. However, now we're talking 35 hours, per hour we're paying 0.2827, which rounds up to 0.28US, multiply that by 35, we get: 0.989583, which is a dollar per week around. And for a month, it's about 4 dollars, which is actually not bad, 4 dollars a month is not much at all, if this is hurting you, then play less and pay less. Play like 3 hours a day.
To be more specific, a PS3 running a game non-stop for a week will consume as much as 33.34 kilowatts per hour, which roughly translates to US$ 4.75 dollars. On the other hand, the Xbox 360 uses 26 kilowatts per hour when left running a game for the same length of time, which is worth US$ 3.70.
So if a PS3 runs non-stop for a single week, per hour on average it uses 33.34 kilowatts, so that means in a single week, you would have to pay 4.75 dollars. But how many ppl are actually leaving their PS3s on 24/7? Not that many, so by a weekly basis, we are using less than 4.75 dollars, much less, to be exact, if ur an avid gamer. Ok, let's say everyday you play 5 hours of games, in a week that's 35 hours. How many hours are there in a week? as someone said, 168 hours, and if u play this many hours, which equals a week, u pay 4.75 US. However, now we're talking 35 hours, per hour we're paying 0.2827, which rounds up to 0.28US, multiply that by 35, we get: 0.989583, which is a dollar per week around. And for a month, it's about 4 dollars, which is actually not bad, 4 dollars a month is not much at all, if this is hurting you, then play less and pay less. Play like 3 hours a day.
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