Posted Jun 30, 2008 at 10:57PM by Sally B.
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 Now that the release of the Sony PS3's v2.40 firmware update is just around the corner, we're sure that all of you are wondering what changes will be applied as soon as the firmware goes live. Yes, we know about the in-game XMB and trophies, but what exactly will happen...say, if a game you've been playing happens to have a trophy whose requirements you already fulfilled? It's a good thing that Eric Lempel, the PlayStation Network Operations director, published a comprehensive FAQ sheet just a few days before the PS3 2.40 firmware hits Sony consoles in the official PlayStation Blog. Some of the relevant questions in the FAQ sheet answers the question that we have mentioned above, that is, whether or not a player will automatically get the trophy for a game whose certain requirements have been fulfilled. Sadly, Lempel states that trophies aren't retroactive, so that means that you'll have to do the feat again in order to get that darn trophy. Also, trophies are tied to a player's PSN ID. That way, there's no need to worry about accidentally losing your valuable trophies if you happen to upgrade hard drives. Another thing about trophies: you can check out your friends' trophies and compare them with yours whether or not your friends are online or not. On the subject of in-game XMBs, this feature is currently a PS3-exclusive functionality, so don't expect to be able to tinker with the XMB while you're playing Blu-ray movies or PS2 games. However, Lempel did say that they are considering adding XMB access during Blu-ray movie playback, so better wait out for that change in the near future. There are many other interesting tidbits and questions cleared up in the FAQ sheet written by Lempel, so if you have any questions that you need to be clarified before you update your PS3 firmware to 2.40, hit the Via link for more information. |
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by Binary - 2008-06-30 |
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» ..
How many times do you have to scroll to get in Trophys? too much
So pointless even the XMB (Oh HOORAY MESSAGES)
All there's next genations consoles no longer paying attention to their games. They more attention on USELESS stuff like pictures, videos, music. All I wanna do is just game and online play somebody with a mic
all I care about.
How many times do you have to scroll to get in Trophys? too much
So pointless even the XMB (Oh HOORAY MESSAGES)
All there's next genations consoles no longer paying attention to their games. They more attention on USELESS stuff like pictures, videos, music. All I wanna do is just game and online play somebody with a mic
all I care about.
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Re: NarooN - 2008-07-01 |
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» it's not about you.
It's about everyone. And how is it useless if there's...a use for it? The PS3 isn't exclusively for gaming. Sure, it's a gaming system before anything else, but it's also a multimedia powerhouse. And if you actually preferred leaving a game to read messages then something's honestly wrong with you.
It's about everyone. And how is it useless if there's...a use for it? The PS3 isn't exclusively for gaming. Sure, it's a gaming system before anything else, but it's also a multimedia powerhouse. And if you actually preferred leaving a game to read messages then something's honestly wrong with you.
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Re: NeilR - 2008-07-01 |
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» don't bother NarooN
He's posted the same "useless" comment in the first article except this time he left out the part about "going to go play xbox".
So, yeah, there's something wrong with him.. he's commenting on the PS3 so that he can piss people off and get a woody.
He's posted the same "useless" comment in the first article except this time he left out the part about "going to go play xbox".
So, yeah, there's something wrong with him.. he's commenting on the PS3 so that he can piss people off and get a woody.
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Re: Binary - 2008-07-01 |
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» ...
I just wanna see how many fan boys I can pissed off. lol
I just wanna see how many fan boys I can pissed off. lol
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Re: Rickey123 - 2008-07-01 |
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» wow
if all you wanna do is piss off fanboys then you need to sort some things out
if all you wanna do is piss off fanboys then you need to sort some things out
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Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-07-01 |
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» yea
wow ur a new bred guy of a xbox fanboy thats insane u absolutely have no life
wow ur a new bred guy of a xbox fanboy thats insane u absolutely have no life
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by Adamantius Snake - 2008-06-30 |
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» damn
... for a second there I thought 2.40 was just released lol
... for a second there I thought 2.40 was just released lol
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by robbo16 - 2008-07-01 |
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» no in game chat (mic)
wtf that was one of the features i just expected. looks like another year wait for that feature to be put in
wtf that was one of the features i just expected. looks like another year wait for that feature to be put in
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2008-07-01 |
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» Can't have it all.
You might as well get a phone.
You might as well get a phone.
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by Knivez7 - 2008-07-01 |
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» "do the feat again"
I suppose that's good news. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who use others uploaded game saves. If the trophies were "retroactive" these people would get trophies with ease.
I suppose that's good news. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who use others uploaded game saves. If the trophies were "retroactive" these people would get trophies with ease.
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Re: Adamantius Snake - 2008-07-01 |
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» damn
because of this, it looks like I won't be playing any PS3 games til they release it.
because of this, it looks like I won't be playing any PS3 games til they release it.
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Re: ~~ - 2008-07-01 |
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» ~~
It's just a one day wait :P
Think you can make it ? Not touching your PS3 for an entire day ?
It's just a one day wait :P
Think you can make it ? Not touching your PS3 for an entire day ?
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by Josh1billion - 2008-07-01 |
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» Can't wait
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
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by emcp - 2008-07-01 |
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» mm not to bad
i like the idea of it being retroactive
as i lost my gamesaves, and was going to probably dl someone else savedgame for resistance, as i hate to have to complete that game again, its boring
anyway cod4 ill do it with pleasure, ridge racer i havnt touch
gta4 im a bit pissed about, i was on the final island, luckily i dont think trophies for this game will be tied in among the storyline
and thats all ive done now, i havnt started collecting flying rats or anything yet
i like the idea of it being retroactive
as i lost my gamesaves, and was going to probably dl someone else savedgame for resistance, as i hate to have to complete that game again, its boring
anyway cod4 ill do it with pleasure, ridge racer i havnt touch
gta4 im a bit pissed about, i was on the final island, luckily i dont think trophies for this game will be tied in among the storyline
and thats all ive done now, i havnt started collecting flying rats or anything yet
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by emcp - 2008-07-01 |
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» damn
i just looked at the FAQ
and im a bit disappointed with the current implication
but thank god theyre at least looking into things
id really like being able to access the psn from other sites, like have it has your sig atleast
id also think the chatting would be good but i can wait for that
its sad they dont let you access the xmb on ps2 titles, but then again i dont play them, so im not that bothered
there was a few other things, i just wish sony will hopefully get this sorted
an i believe they will as theyve already got the hardest part done, the decisions on how to implement it
not they just have to improve which doesnt havnt to be through a FW, eg the ability to see psn on sites
bit pissed about the fact that theyve cluttered the xmb up way too much with things that dont work
like the web browser and visual settings, just remove them from the menu and only include the main things such as
friends and music, that all that way they could redeign the xmb and make it a different simplistic menu all together for quicker scrolling
incase you messing around online and you have to be quick
anyway what id liek to see is shortcuts
ir PS+R1= skip rack
and to access the xmb its a double tap of the PS button
i just looked at the FAQ
and im a bit disappointed with the current implication
but thank god theyre at least looking into things
id really like being able to access the psn from other sites, like have it has your sig atleast
id also think the chatting would be good but i can wait for that
its sad they dont let you access the xmb on ps2 titles, but then again i dont play them, so im not that bothered
there was a few other things, i just wish sony will hopefully get this sorted
an i believe they will as theyve already got the hardest part done, the decisions on how to implement it
not they just have to improve which doesnt havnt to be through a FW, eg the ability to see psn on sites
bit pissed about the fact that theyve cluttered the xmb up way too much with things that dont work
like the web browser and visual settings, just remove them from the menu and only include the main things such as
friends and music, that all that way they could redeign the xmb and make it a different simplistic menu all together for quicker scrolling
incase you messing around online and you have to be quick
anyway what id liek to see is shortcuts
ir PS+R1= skip rack
and to access the xmb its a double tap of the PS button
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by Keith K - 2008-07-01 |
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» not happy about the trophies
The Trophy system in fact does include the infamous "Gamerscore" clone.. fairly upset by that.
The fact that Sony has waited almost 2 years to implement this and wont even give us the benefit of a one time retrofit of previously played games is just sad. I just picked up MGS4 and have played the hell out of it.. I dont want to start all over, not to mention the rest of my library. I may never been lucky enough to complete some of my previously completed accomplishments in some games.
Most of the game library doesnt even include trophies, meaning Sony has specifically given us a reason NOT to go back and replay our games until the devs release a patch some time in the future, if ever.
Im happy its here and will enjoy its use in the future, but I have a year and a half worth of playing Im not really interested in repeating.
The Trophy system in fact does include the infamous "Gamerscore" clone.. fairly upset by that.
The fact that Sony has waited almost 2 years to implement this and wont even give us the benefit of a one time retrofit of previously played games is just sad. I just picked up MGS4 and have played the hell out of it.. I dont want to start all over, not to mention the rest of my library. I may never been lucky enough to complete some of my previously completed accomplishments in some games.
Most of the game library doesnt even include trophies, meaning Sony has specifically given us a reason NOT to go back and replay our games until the devs release a patch some time in the future, if ever.
Im happy its here and will enjoy its use in the future, but I have a year and a half worth of playing Im not really interested in repeating.
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Re: Adamantius Snake - 2008-07-01 |
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» yawp
Totally agree. I played the hell out of MGS4 the first week it came out, within 2 weeks I beat the game about 7 times, 1 playthrough giving me the Big Boss emblem, which was pretty hard to get, and I grew tired of the game after the first week.
What is also going to suck is that I am going to have to earn 100% completion again on GTA4, if Rockstar chooses to add trophies.
I understand that people can just download saves, but why not fix the saves that they can only work with the console that they were created on, I'm sure they can do that with an update.
Totally agree. I played the hell out of MGS4 the first week it came out, within 2 weeks I beat the game about 7 times, 1 playthrough giving me the Big Boss emblem, which was pretty hard to get, and I grew tired of the game after the first week.
What is also going to suck is that I am going to have to earn 100% completion again on GTA4, if Rockstar chooses to add trophies.
I understand that people can just download saves, but why not fix the saves that they can only work with the console that they were created on, I'm sure they can do that with an update.
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by girandhistacos - 2008-07-01 |
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» Terrible...
This is ridiculous. Why the hell shouldn't they be retroactive?
I beat the hell out of my games and now I have to go and do it all over again?
And what about games I don't own anymore? I have to go get them again just to get the trophies?
Sony loves to be really stupid.
This is ridiculous. Why the hell shouldn't they be retroactive?
I beat the hell out of my games and now I have to go and do it all over again?
And what about games I don't own anymore? I have to go get them again just to get the trophies?
Sony loves to be really stupid.
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Re: ~~ - 2008-07-01 |
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» ~~
perhaps, because everybody can just download gamesaves from gamefaqs ?
Tough luck for the people who already finished a game, yes.
But hey, whatcha gonna do ?
perhaps, because everybody can just download gamesaves from gamefaqs ?
Tough luck for the people who already finished a game, yes.
But hey, whatcha gonna do ?
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Re: extra2000 - 2008-07-01 |
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» I think
It does not matter if you copy someone else's save. I think trophies will work like gamerscores. If you copy off someone else's save, you won't be able to obtain any trophies from it.
Otherwise it's pure plain pointless to achieve trophies by grabbing the saves from someone else.
It does not matter if you copy someone else's save. I think trophies will work like gamerscores. If you copy off someone else's save, you won't be able to obtain any trophies from it.
Otherwise it's pure plain pointless to achieve trophies by grabbing the saves from someone else.
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Re: Knivez7 - 2008-07-01 |
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» You don't "have" to
You really don't have to play it all over again. Be happy with your accomplishments and receive trophies for games you haven't played or completed everything on.
Also, do trophies honestly mean that much to you that you would pay for a game again? That right there is stupidity on your part.
You really don't have to play it all over again. Be happy with your accomplishments and receive trophies for games you haven't played or completed everything on.
Also, do trophies honestly mean that much to you that you would pay for a game again? That right there is stupidity on your part.
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by GmDude66 - 2008-07-01 |
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» forum
Could you add my thread link to the news post?
I had that thread up way before this was posted ;P
http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=141969
Could you add my thread link to the news post?
I had that thread up way before this was posted ;P
http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=141969
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Re: GmDude66 - 2008-07-01 |
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» oops
That took you to the latest post in the thread, here's the link:
http://forums.qj.net/showpost.php?p+2070374+postcount+1
That took you to the latest post in the thread, here's the link:
http://forums.qj.net/showpost.php?p+2070374+postcount+1
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by dark420bishop - 2008-07-01 |
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» trophy smophy
what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything.
what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything.
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Re: scott1234 - 2008-07-01 |
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» agreed
but it adds more to the game.
doesnt it come out tomorrow? CANT WAIT
but it adds more to the game.
doesnt it come out tomorrow? CANT WAIT
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Re: Thinker - 2008-07-01 |
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» @dark420bishop
"what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything."
- By the same logic, what use is Gamerscore and points? It's not like they will actually do anything.
"what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything."
- By the same logic, what use is Gamerscore and points? It's not like they will actually do anything.
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by NarooN - 2008-07-01 |
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» Don't get your hopes down. Wth!
About things like In-Game Voice Chat, Eric didn't outright deny that in the FAQ. He merely said it wouldn't be in THIS firmware because their main priority was getting the text chat and trophy systems out as quickly as possible since they were the Number One requested feature.
He said that it's possible for them to implement it later, as well as other stuff, so sit tight and be thankful we're getting what we're getting now!
About things like In-Game Voice Chat, Eric didn't outright deny that in the FAQ. He merely said it wouldn't be in THIS firmware because their main priority was getting the text chat and trophy systems out as quickly as possible since they were the Number One requested feature.
He said that it's possible for them to implement it later, as well as other stuff, so sit tight and be thankful we're getting what we're getting now!
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by emcp - 2008-07-01 |
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» mm
yes they could tag the ps3 gamesaves, but wht if you want to upgrade harddrives and swap saves just to see wht its like, say if you rent a game like GTA and you want to see all it has to other, you may download a savedga,e
they could also tag the savedgames, let you play them but only give only give you the ability to plsy them and be unable to use the trophies from it, what if it gets hacked?
also DO NOT WORRY, SONY MAY NOT HAVE IT RETROACTIVE, but its because they require the game to tell the ps3 when a topry is unlocked, it cant do this trhough a savedgame
WHAT YOU MAY SEE IS A PATCH FOR YOUR GAME, IN WHICH THE DEVS WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO SELECT AN OPTION THE SAVEDGAME IS READ AND THE GAME WORK OUT IF YOU DESERVE A TROPHY THEN YOU WILL BE GVEN THE TROPHY
this though will allow cheats again, also the trophys will be timed stamped andmay require time etc to be used a evalution, we dont know
BASICALLY THEY SAVEDGAME WERE NEVER GOING TO BE RETROACTIVE BY SONY, OTHERWISE IT WOULD REQUIRE SONY TO TAL TO ALL THEDEVS IN ORDER TO SEE HOW THEIR SAVEDGAME IS COMPILED WHICH WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME
ALSO SOME THINGS MAY NOT BE HELD IN THE SAVEDGAME, AND THEREFORE WILL NEED TO BE ADDED BY THE DEVS
DEVS WILL MAY MAKE AN OPTION TO RETRIEVE ALL POSSIBLE TROPHYS, BUT FOR SOME GAMES THIS MAY NOT BE VIABLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PRECAUTIOBS WERE NOT THERE BEFORE
yes they could tag the ps3 gamesaves, but wht if you want to upgrade harddrives and swap saves just to see wht its like, say if you rent a game like GTA and you want to see all it has to other, you may download a savedga,e
they could also tag the savedgames, let you play them but only give only give you the ability to plsy them and be unable to use the trophies from it, what if it gets hacked?
also DO NOT WORRY, SONY MAY NOT HAVE IT RETROACTIVE, but its because they require the game to tell the ps3 when a topry is unlocked, it cant do this trhough a savedgame
WHAT YOU MAY SEE IS A PATCH FOR YOUR GAME, IN WHICH THE DEVS WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO SELECT AN OPTION THE SAVEDGAME IS READ AND THE GAME WORK OUT IF YOU DESERVE A TROPHY THEN YOU WILL BE GVEN THE TROPHY
this though will allow cheats again, also the trophys will be timed stamped andmay require time etc to be used a evalution, we dont know
BASICALLY THEY SAVEDGAME WERE NEVER GOING TO BE RETROACTIVE BY SONY, OTHERWISE IT WOULD REQUIRE SONY TO TAL TO ALL THEDEVS IN ORDER TO SEE HOW THEIR SAVEDGAME IS COMPILED WHICH WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME
ALSO SOME THINGS MAY NOT BE HELD IN THE SAVEDGAME, AND THEREFORE WILL NEED TO BE ADDED BY THE DEVS
DEVS WILL MAY MAKE AN OPTION TO RETRIEVE ALL POSSIBLE TROPHYS, BUT FOR SOME GAMES THIS MAY NOT BE VIABLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PRECAUTIOBS WERE NOT THERE BEFORE
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by Morlander - 2008-07-01 |
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» NOW IF THEY WOULD JUST GET OFF THEIR ASS
nice to get these really awsome but somehow pointless feeling additions to a firmware but some of us still have launch consoles that refuse to run gta4 without constant crashes.
how about sony actually making a move with rockstar to actually fix this ***** instead of being lazy *****s and offering to replace a perfectly good machine rather than actually working to correct the problem that their constant sku updating/changing caused
sick and tired of sonys bull***** lazyness and incopitence
nice to get these really awsome but somehow pointless feeling additions to a firmware but some of us still have launch consoles that refuse to run gta4 without constant crashes.
how about sony actually making a move with rockstar to actually fix this ***** instead of being lazy *****s and offering to replace a perfectly good machine rather than actually working to correct the problem that their constant sku updating/changing caused
sick and tired of sonys bull***** lazyness and incopitence
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by 93pauott - 2008-07-01 |
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» OSHI!
two minutes to release!!!!!!!!!!
two minutes to release!!!!!!!!!!
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by Adamantius Snake - 2008-07-01 |
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» RetroActive
I just read that Burnout will be retroactive, because of the fact that the save file is connected to the PSN account, this might also be the case for other games, Vegas2 also has the savegame file that is connected to the PSN which can't be copied.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/07/01/trophies-timed-challenges-for-burnout-paradise/
I just read that Burnout will be retroactive, because of the fact that the save file is connected to the PSN account, this might also be the case for other games, Vegas2 also has the savegame file that is connected to the PSN which can't be copied.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/07/01/trophies-timed-challenges-for-burnout-paradise/
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by Adamantius Snake - 2008-07-01 |
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» wrong link
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/01/burnout-paradise-to-receive-retroactive-playstation-trophies/
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/01/burnout-paradise-to-receive-retroactive-playstation-trophies/
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by dark420bishop - 2008-07-01 |
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» w00t!
2.40 coming out tomorrow! I can't wait!
To everyone whining about the lack of retroactive trophies, they have a very good reason for not allowing it. As other posters have pointed out, there is too much potential for abuse should they allow it.
2.40 coming out tomorrow! I can't wait!
To everyone whining about the lack of retroactive trophies, they have a very good reason for not allowing it. As other posters have pointed out, there is too much potential for abuse should they allow it.
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by BaDaPpLe - 2008-07-01 |
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» ITS OUT
Its out be4 the 2nd and alrdy installed here WOOT!
Its out be4 the 2nd and alrdy installed here WOOT!
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Re: Knivez7 - 2008-07-01 |
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» I got it too!
Hoorah for us, am I right?
Hoorah for us, am I right?
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