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by hmm (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» what
com on rockstar give us that bad ass game now
***** i n g nice game
com on rockstar give us that bad ass game now
***** i n g nice game
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Re: VSG (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» they are
rockstar is trying to give us kick a-s-s games but those stupid office oldies wont let rockstar distribute it to the public. suppression of rights is rampant and the public cannot do anything about it.
rockstar is trying to give us kick a-s-s games but those stupid office oldies wont let rockstar distribute it to the public. suppression of rights is rampant and the public cannot do anything about it.
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by Shy (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» really?
are you sure that Euphoria was developed by Lucas Arts?
As far as I know, Natural Motion are the company that developed Euphoria - a suite that allows for Dynamic Motion Synthesis.
Lucas arts are using Dynamic Motion Synthesis in conjuction with Digital Molecular Matter (a whole different thing) for Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.
I don't think there's any confirmation of Digital Molecular Matter being used in GTA4
... correct me if I'm wrong ...
are you sure that Euphoria was developed by Lucas Arts?
As far as I know, Natural Motion are the company that developed Euphoria - a suite that allows for Dynamic Motion Synthesis.
Lucas arts are using Dynamic Motion Synthesis in conjuction with Digital Molecular Matter (a whole different thing) for Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.
I don't think there's any confirmation of Digital Molecular Matter being used in GTA4
... correct me if I'm wrong ...
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Re: jayhawker09 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» DUHHHH
did you even read the article? you just repeated exactly what was said, dumbass
did you even read the article? you just repeated exactly what was said, dumbass
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Re: THE TRUTH (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» DURH!!!!
haha he IS a dumb A$$!!...haha i bet he feels all smart....our planet is being taken ovr by morons!!!
haha he IS a dumb A$$!!...haha i bet he feels all smart....our planet is being taken ovr by morons!!!
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by mikey (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» oh really?
well fix the graphics before you work on animations considering the gfx were sh!!t even compared to saints row.
well fix the graphics before you work on animations considering the gfx were sh!!t even compared to saints row.
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Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» ur smoking somthing
Saints row looks like a piece of 5hit... GTA IV graphics aren't da best but there a hell of a lot better than Saints row.
Saints row looks like a piece of 5hit... GTA IV graphics aren't da best but there a hell of a lot better than Saints row.
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by yup (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» 111
da grafix are da *****yest yet ... they sux a$$ fix the grafix rockstar..and ill buy the game!!!!!!!
da grafix are da *****yest yet ... they sux a$$ fix the grafix rockstar..and ill buy the game!!!!!!!
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by stan (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» actually
If im not mistaken Endorphin, Euphoria, and DMM (digital molecular matter) are are developed by the same studio and are funded/owned by Lucasarts. Im not 100% sure, but i do know for a fact that if you want to license any of tools you have to go through lucasarts.
If im not mistaken Endorphin, Euphoria, and DMM (digital molecular matter) are are developed by the same studio and are funded/owned by Lucasarts. Im not 100% sure, but i do know for a fact that if you want to license any of tools you have to go through lucasarts.
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by fix it rockstar, there is no excuse (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» Finally, some people who agree
I hate the stupid lil GTA fanboys who can't get past the fact that it's GTA, so the only thing they can say is "OMG IT LOOKZ SOOO GOOOD". I love GTA just as much as the next guy (didn't like SA as much as 3 or VC), but I've been saying since the first trailer that the graphics, namely the textures, suck balls. Amazing for a GTA game, but still not up to par with the norm. And it looks worse in this trailer
I hate the stupid lil GTA fanboys who can't get past the fact that it's GTA, so the only thing they can say is "OMG IT LOOKZ SOOO GOOOD". I love GTA just as much as the next guy (didn't like SA as much as 3 or VC), but I've been saying since the first trailer that the graphics, namely the textures, suck balls. Amazing for a GTA game, but still not up to par with the norm. And it looks worse in this trailer
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Re: fix it NOW (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» oops
By "this trailer", I meant the newest trailer.
By "this trailer", I meant the newest trailer.
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Re: poopoo (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» none
b/c its shot from the xbox so obviously itll look like *****
b/c its shot from the xbox so obviously itll look like *****
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Re: iwin (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» LOL
Yeah you wish right? If it looks better on the PS3 why wouldn't they take the video on that version?
Get a clue chump, and stop being a sheep, the 360 and PS3 are about equal, the PS3 isn't as powerful as Sony would have you believe. It'll be a long while before there is any big difference between the two, and it may never happen
Yeah you wish right? If it looks better on the PS3 why wouldn't they take the video on that version?
Get a clue chump, and stop being a sheep, the 360 and PS3 are about equal, the PS3 isn't as powerful as Sony would have you believe. It'll be a long while before there is any big difference between the two, and it may never happen
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by Dj Natas (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» Old news. like last years news
this site sucks more everyday. When Lucas Arts dropped that they were developing a new Indiana Jones games for the next gen, Rockstar already claimed they were using this engine for physics. The graphics engine in the new game is the same as the one used in their Table Tennis game!
this site sucks more everyday. When Lucas Arts dropped that they were developing a new Indiana Jones games for the next gen, Rockstar already claimed they were using this engine for physics. The graphics engine in the new game is the same as the one used in their Table Tennis game!
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Re: Gino D. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2007-06-29 |
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» well, to be accurate...
the partnership between Rockstar and NaturalMotion has been announced before. what is being confirmed here is the fact that the euphoria engine is being used for GTA4. back then when the partnership was announced, they did not give any specific titles on what they would use euphoria for. To quote "NaturalMotion said that Rockstar Games will now be including Euphoria in its upcoming next-gen titles." we assumed though that it would be for GTA4 more than anything else. Now... this is a confirmation of that.
http://www.qj.net/tags/euphoria-engine/13158
the partnership between Rockstar and NaturalMotion has been announced before. what is being confirmed here is the fact that the euphoria engine is being used for GTA4. back then when the partnership was announced, they did not give any specific titles on what they would use euphoria for. To quote "NaturalMotion said that Rockstar Games will now be including Euphoria in its upcoming next-gen titles." we assumed though that it would be for GTA4 more than anything else. Now... this is a confirmation of that.
http://www.qj.net/tags/euphoria-engine/13158
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by .... (Unregistered) - 2007-06-29 |
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» ...
I love hearing this kind of devolpments.......most people dont understaind how much goes into the animations
I love hearing this kind of devolpments.......most people dont understaind how much goes into the animations
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by god0fgod (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» PS3 power
Now think how much better this could be if it was designed for the PS3 exclusively.
Now think how much better this could be if it was designed for the PS3 exclusively.
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Re: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» !
i'm thinking - but i'm not finding the answer.
maybe because it wouldn't be much better > if u think it will, ask your self this question:
how much better will the exclusive episodic content be, seeing as its exclusive for the xbox 360 + therefore being developed/designed for the x360?
i'm thinking - but i'm not finding the answer.
maybe because it wouldn't be much better > if u think it will, ask your self this question:
how much better will the exclusive episodic content be, seeing as its exclusive for the xbox 360 + therefore being developed/designed for the x360?
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-02 |
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» PS3 hype
The XBOX 360 version will be better. Not only does Take Two have a better relationship with Microsoft, not only will the 360 version have exclusive episodic content, but the 360 version will sell far more copies.
The 360's GPU is proven more powerful, the unified memory architecture lets the GPU use more RAM, only core 360 consoles don't have HDD caching, and the game easily will fit on a DVD9.
We'll see who has the more powerful console in October.
The XBOX 360 version will be better. Not only does Take Two have a better relationship with Microsoft, not only will the 360 version have exclusive episodic content, but the 360 version will sell far more copies.
The 360's GPU is proven more powerful, the unified memory architecture lets the GPU use more RAM, only core 360 consoles don't have HDD caching, and the game easily will fit on a DVD9.
We'll see who has the more powerful console in October.
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by Unreal.Blender (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» Too Bad...
Wow, its cool they are including some graphical enhancement in that game.TOO BAD the trailer showed its LACK of, static mesh detail, texture detail, use of shaders, decent framerate, and character detail. That trailer showed the game to look like complete CRAP. This is probably just because they had to stuggle to get it to run on the 360. And I hate to imagine that the game is gonna be way smaller than it could have previously been, because of the fact that they have to fit it on a 9 gig dvd vs 50 gig blu-ray. At this point, they might as well just include the episodic content WITH the Ps3 version, so they can take advantage of that extra space. That way, Microsoft can still rape its customers of their money, while the Playstation users can get the WHOLE game in one package.
Wow, its cool they are including some graphical enhancement in that game.TOO BAD the trailer showed its LACK of, static mesh detail, texture detail, use of shaders, decent framerate, and character detail. That trailer showed the game to look like complete CRAP. This is probably just because they had to stuggle to get it to run on the 360. And I hate to imagine that the game is gonna be way smaller than it could have previously been, because of the fact that they have to fit it on a 9 gig dvd vs 50 gig blu-ray. At this point, they might as well just include the episodic content WITH the Ps3 version, so they can take advantage of that extra space. That way, Microsoft can still rape its customers of their money, while the Playstation users can get the WHOLE game in one package.
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Re: Gamer (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» Stop acting dumb please.
"This is probably just because they had to stuggle to get it to run on the 360."
Struggle? What has the 360 got to do with it? If you expect GeOW graphics in an expansive game like GTA, then you're stupid. If you think the PS3 version should have higher res textures, more polygons and a bigger game world, then the PS3 version should be able to run the 'lower' quality game much better than the 360. But as we've seen so far in almost ALL multi-format games, it is the 360 version which usually offers the best performance, and even games which are PS3 ports appear to be improved on the 360 (as VF3 previews show).
And what has 50GB Blu-ray disks got to do with it? Which PS3 games are currently 50GB? Which PS3 coming out this year will be 50GB? Oh that's right, none. The biggest so far is STILL Resistance at 16GB.
So let's wait and see shall we! You're acting like a typical closed minded fanboy who always has to find reasons to attack another console, even when it has nothing to do with the actual topic.
"This is probably just because they had to stuggle to get it to run on the 360."
Struggle? What has the 360 got to do with it? If you expect GeOW graphics in an expansive game like GTA, then you're stupid. If you think the PS3 version should have higher res textures, more polygons and a bigger game world, then the PS3 version should be able to run the 'lower' quality game much better than the 360. But as we've seen so far in almost ALL multi-format games, it is the 360 version which usually offers the best performance, and even games which are PS3 ports appear to be improved on the 360 (as VF3 previews show).
And what has 50GB Blu-ray disks got to do with it? Which PS3 games are currently 50GB? Which PS3 coming out this year will be 50GB? Oh that's right, none. The biggest so far is STILL Resistance at 16GB.
So let's wait and see shall we! You're acting like a typical closed minded fanboy who always has to find reasons to attack another console, even when it has nothing to do with the actual topic.
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Re: Gamer (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» And yeah...
...I meant VF5, not VF3. :)
As for episodic content. The whole point of it is that it comes AFTER a game has been released to help extend the life of the game. Just like extra levels/maps. The developement of episodic content continues AFTER the game has been released, it isn't shipped with a game, otherwise it wouldn't be episodic content!
...I meant VF5, not VF3. :)
As for episodic content. The whole point of it is that it comes AFTER a game has been released to help extend the life of the game. Just like extra levels/maps. The developement of episodic content continues AFTER the game has been released, it isn't shipped with a game, otherwise it wouldn't be episodic content!
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Re: notsomeidiotlikeunrealblender (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» This again?
You Sony fans really need to get off the whole 50 GB thing. There will never be a game that big and you know it, unless the disk is filled with uncompressed HD videos, as has been proven with your precious OMGz 22GB Resistance. If the comments below aren't enough, you can actually put the Resistance disk in your PC (if you have a BR drive) and see for yourself.
Another thing, Gears of War isn't even very long nor does it even take up a lot of space (6 or 7 GB total I think), and it is reported it cost $10 million to make. Do you have any idea how much money it would cost to develop a 50 GB game?
50 GB games are almost as funny as "Next-gen starts when we say it does". Sony and its fans make me lol
You Sony fans really need to get off the whole 50 GB thing. There will never be a game that big and you know it, unless the disk is filled with uncompressed HD videos, as has been proven with your precious OMGz 22GB Resistance. If the comments below aren't enough, you can actually put the Resistance disk in your PC (if you have a BR drive) and see for yourself.
Another thing, Gears of War isn't even very long nor does it even take up a lot of space (6 or 7 GB total I think), and it is reported it cost $10 million to make. Do you have any idea how much money it would cost to develop a 50 GB game?
50 GB games are almost as funny as "Next-gen starts when we say it does". Sony and its fans make me lol
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Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» Re: Gamer
The only reason why multi-platform games are looking better on the 360 is because developers are lazy as hell. If they took time like Rainbow Six or ps3 exclusive games then somthing good would come out. All there doing is using the easier system to mess with and not worrying to much with the harder one (cause there lazy).
The only reason why multi-platform games are looking better on the 360 is because developers are lazy as hell. If they took time like Rainbow Six or ps3 exclusive games then somthing good would come out. All there doing is using the easier system to mess with and not worrying to much with the harder one (cause there lazy).
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Re: Gamer (Unregistered) - 2007-07-01 |
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» *Yawn* Please stop making excuses
"The only reason why multi-platform games are looking better on the 360 is because developers are lazy as hell."
Throughout last gen, I heard the same thing over and over again about the PS2. It is NEVER the fault of Sony for creating a complicated to program machine, oh no, it's always the devs fault for being too 'lazy'.
Look, games don't create themselves, people create them, and therefore they have to cope with many factors during the developement of a game, such as cost, time, ease of developement, support, console limitations, etc. So putting it ALL down to laziness is just, well, just being lazy instead of using your mind.
It's a fact that the PS3 has LESS memory than the 360 for games (428MB on the PS3, 480MB on the 360), because the PS3's OS takes a much bigger chunk out of memory compared to the 360. This means much more at present than disk storage space. So that's 12% more memory for 360 games, and that IS significant. Together with the 360's GPU being a little more powerful and the console being easier to develope on compared to the PS3 means multi-format games have every reason to look and perform better on the 360, although the difference should lessen as devs get to grips with the PS3.
So stop playing the 'lazy' card every time and start looking for the REAL reasons behind the differences.
"The only reason why multi-platform games are looking better on the 360 is because developers are lazy as hell."
Throughout last gen, I heard the same thing over and over again about the PS2. It is NEVER the fault of Sony for creating a complicated to program machine, oh no, it's always the devs fault for being too 'lazy'.
Look, games don't create themselves, people create them, and therefore they have to cope with many factors during the developement of a game, such as cost, time, ease of developement, support, console limitations, etc. So putting it ALL down to laziness is just, well, just being lazy instead of using your mind.
It's a fact that the PS3 has LESS memory than the 360 for games (428MB on the PS3, 480MB on the 360), because the PS3's OS takes a much bigger chunk out of memory compared to the 360. This means much more at present than disk storage space. So that's 12% more memory for 360 games, and that IS significant. Together with the 360's GPU being a little more powerful and the console being easier to develope on compared to the PS3 means multi-format games have every reason to look and perform better on the 360, although the difference should lessen as devs get to grips with the PS3.
So stop playing the 'lazy' card every time and start looking for the REAL reasons behind the differences.
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by Shaggin yer maw (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» Your mamma
Resisitance is only 16GB cos of the amount of 1080p cutscenes, otherwise its actually 6.8GB, which if the PS3 could actaully upscale stuff properly, it would easily fit onto a 8.5GB DVD-9, yes, you tw@ face its actually 8.5GB.
Resisitance is only 16GB cos of the amount of 1080p cutscenes, otherwise its actually 6.8GB, which if the PS3 could actaully upscale stuff properly, it would easily fit onto a 8.5GB DVD-9, yes, you tw@ face its actually 8.5GB.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» yea
yea I also heard resistance is 6 gigs of textures and 7 gig of cutscenes in 720p video wow so bluray is for cutscenes after all not ingame assets not new information to me just nice to find examples like this maybe not true but sounds believable I played resisitance my self at my friends house
yea I also heard resistance is 6 gigs of textures and 7 gig of cutscenes in 720p video wow so bluray is for cutscenes after all not ingame assets not new information to me just nice to find examples like this maybe not true but sounds believable I played resisitance my self at my friends house
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by Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» gta
gta has never had a realistic look to its games so gta4 is in line with what any gta fan is used to anyway the game is not set to release till october I think the textures will improve by then anyway well find out in october.
gta has never had a realistic look to its games so gta4 is in line with what any gta fan is used to anyway the game is not set to release till october I think the textures will improve by then anyway well find out in october.
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by Unreal.Blender (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» Tricked Ya!
WOW, got ya bad people.
Heh, I fabricated that post just to infuriate those who dislike the PS3.
And while anyone who has played any current gen games must agree that the look of GTA 4 is sub par, this game is obviously still in development. (Obvious due to the fact that there is only 2 trailers.) Rather than logically considering this fact, or any other argument, you all simply attacked the PS3 and boasted the Xbox 360. Now, may I ask, who is the fanboy?
And for 50 gigs not being taken up...
When the PS2 came out, it started using DVD, jumping up from games that were 800 mbs on CD. Eventually, someone will make use of 50 gigs, vs their old 9 gigs. Just like those people moved from 800 mb to 9 gigs. For now though, I don't really care.
WOW, got ya bad people.
Heh, I fabricated that post just to infuriate those who dislike the PS3.
And while anyone who has played any current gen games must agree that the look of GTA 4 is sub par, this game is obviously still in development. (Obvious due to the fact that there is only 2 trailers.) Rather than logically considering this fact, or any other argument, you all simply attacked the PS3 and boasted the Xbox 360. Now, may I ask, who is the fanboy?
And for 50 gigs not being taken up...
When the PS2 came out, it started using DVD, jumping up from games that were 800 mbs on CD. Eventually, someone will make use of 50 gigs, vs their old 9 gigs. Just like those people moved from 800 mb to 9 gigs. For now though, I don't really care.
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Re: qw (Unregistered) - 2007-06-30 |
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» No, they won't
Because the jump in development costs is PHENOMENAL this gen. It didn't cost ten million to make an 800 meg game, developers could afford to move up to 9 gigs.
And while the people who simply attacked the PS3 and put the 360 in a good light may be fanboys, if you created that whole post with the sole intention of angering fanboys on the Internet you are a nerd.
Because the jump in development costs is PHENOMENAL this gen. It didn't cost ten million to make an 800 meg game, developers could afford to move up to 9 gigs.
And while the people who simply attacked the PS3 and put the 360 in a good light may be fanboys, if you created that whole post with the sole intention of angering fanboys on the Internet you are a nerd.
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