Posted Feb 13, 2008 at 09:34AM by Charles D.
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It's an amazing piece of software, and I'm really excited with its downloadable content and online multiplayer support - again, that's something that's unique to 360. We think consumers are going to love that, and it's going to create what I would describe, again, as the premium experience on our platform. |
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by demondirk - 2008-02-13 |
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» don't take offense by this
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i wonder if i will be blocked?
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i wonder if i will be blocked?
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-02-13 |
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» .
I'm not offended by anything you say you sad man.
I'm not offended by anything you say you sad man.
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Re: xche78x - 2008-02-14 |
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» dear people
not every game is s 360 exclusive they also comes out on the PS3 with almost same quality, YES barely noticeable difference.
and i thank rockstar for not gimping the ps3 version, and yes those downloadable contents are absurd, i myself also hate paid ps3 dlc, they should have included it in the game in the first place or should be free. fy to microsoft for sucking more money from clueless xbox 360 bots.
not every game is s 360 exclusive they also comes out on the PS3 with almost same quality, YES barely noticeable difference.
and i thank rockstar for not gimping the ps3 version, and yes those downloadable contents are absurd, i myself also hate paid ps3 dlc, they should have included it in the game in the first place or should be free. fy to microsoft for sucking more money from clueless xbox 360 bots.
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Re: Mister Common Sense Gay Lover - 2008-02-14 |
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» honey
don't
don't
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Re: demondirk - 2008-02-14 |
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» haha
if you thought this was directed towards you mister common sense then your lamer then i thought i was just seeing if qj would ban me for cussing but i geuss not and by the way you need to come up with good come back that you didn't steal from someone else how sad are you letting a teenager get to you sad sad man
if you thought this was directed towards you mister common sense then your lamer then i thought i was just seeing if qj would ban me for cussing but i geuss not and by the way you need to come up with good come back that you didn't steal from someone else how sad are you letting a teenager get to you sad sad man
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by [Vee] - 2008-02-13 |
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» what the hell?
Shock horror, this came from Major Nelsons Podcast. #1 M$ Ass Gobbler in the world.
Shock horror, this came from Major Nelsons Podcast. #1 M$ Ass Gobbler in the world.
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by Keith K - 2008-02-13 |
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» Oops
Ah console manufacturer upper management.. the biggest fanboys of all.
Ah console manufacturer upper management.. the biggest fanboys of all.
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by McAwesome - 2008-02-13 |
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» Well duh
This game was built from the ground up on PS3 and ported to the 360. Of course it'll have multiplayer.
This game was built from the ground up on PS3 and ported to the 360. Of course it'll have multiplayer.
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by burrito4brain - 2008-02-13 |
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» Ok, we get it now...
now can you atleast tell us more about the multiplayer itself though... c'mon rockstar...pleeeeeze
now can you atleast tell us more about the multiplayer itself though... c'mon rockstar...pleeeeeze
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by Kingofdaberbz - 2008-02-13 |
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» @McAwesome
Wow ur worst than Mr.Common Sense It was delayed because of the ps3,yet it's a ps3 port? lol wow that was a funny joke.As a matter of fact,the 360 version may actually look better just like most multiplatform games do.
Wow ur worst than Mr.Common Sense It was delayed because of the ps3,yet it's a ps3 port? lol wow that was a funny joke.As a matter of fact,the 360 version may actually look better just like most multiplatform games do.
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Re: Naroon Kasui - 2008-02-13 |
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360 look better? Are you on drugs? No 360 version of any multiplatform will look better than the PS3 version. In fact, most of the time they look the exact same. Only fanboys will think otherwise.
360 look better? Are you on drugs? No 360 version of any multiplatform will look better than the PS3 version. In fact, most of the time they look the exact same. Only fanboys will think otherwise.
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Re: RexNox - 2008-02-13 |
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» Umm...
It wasn't delayed because the directly because of the PS3. It was delayed directly because of MGS4. Get it.
BTW, I never saw anyone claim that the 386DX (MS) was better than the 386 SX (PS3)...nor did anyone care. The thing that will separate the two system is the services they offer. Nothing more.
It wasn't delayed because the directly because of the PS3. It was delayed directly because of MGS4. Get it.
BTW, I never saw anyone claim that the 386DX (MS) was better than the 386 SX (PS3)...nor did anyone care. The thing that will separate the two system is the services they offer. Nothing more.
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by RexNox - 2008-02-13 |
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» Whoa...wth...?
The first line should of been...It wasn't delayed directly because of the PS3 ...sorry poor editing.
The first line should of been...It wasn't delayed directly because of the PS3 ...sorry poor editing.
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by Kingofdaberbz - 2008-02-13 |
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» @Naroon Kasui
I hope u do know most multi-platform games have the XBOX 360 as their lead console,hence the reason why the 360 version usually looks better the ps3 version because they are ports usually.Also,making the ps3 lead console most likely will
never happen since the 360 version almost always outsell the ps3 counter part.The ps3 would look better if it was the lead console,which it is not so tough luck.
I hope u do know most multi-platform games have the XBOX 360 as their lead console,hence the reason why the 360 version usually looks better the ps3 version because they are ports usually.Also,making the ps3 lead console most likely will
never happen since the 360 version almost always outsell the ps3 counter part.The ps3 would look better if it was the lead console,which it is not so tough luck.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-13 |
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» Both consoles look the same for multiplat'z
You must be watching too much gametrailers or somthing, because the only reason why people THINK it looks better is because they actually never tried both of them. People on the internet make some weak video comparisons that make people think that one console looks better (usually the 360 for some reason). Assassin's Creed is one of the biggest ones that people thought looked bad on the ps3, their too gullible..
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/147603.html
You must be watching too much gametrailers or somthing, because the only reason why people THINK it looks better is because they actually never tried both of them. People on the internet make some weak video comparisons that make people think that one console looks better (usually the 360 for some reason). Assassin's Creed is one of the biggest ones that people thought looked bad on the ps3, their too gullible..
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/147603.html
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Re: Stealth! - 2008-02-13 |
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» OH please STFU
That would be like saying DMC4 will look better and sell better on the 360. Well i got news for you, it was started on the PS3 first, wow a multiplatform title started on the PS3 and ported to the 360. Thats right learn facts before spewing garbage out.
Also FYI the DMC4 on the PS3 is out selling the 360 version by 5-1 in Japan and Pal regions. And lets wait for the U.S, its not going to look pretty.
So stop talking $hit.
That would be like saying DMC4 will look better and sell better on the 360. Well i got news for you, it was started on the PS3 first, wow a multiplatform title started on the PS3 and ported to the 360. Thats right learn facts before spewing garbage out.
Also FYI the DMC4 on the PS3 is out selling the 360 version by 5-1 in Japan and Pal regions. And lets wait for the U.S, its not going to look pretty.
So stop talking $hit.
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by Techni - 2008-02-13 |
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» Microsoft lies to promote 360
Yeah that'll be the first time they've ever done that /sarcasm.
It was MS's lies in the first place that convinced me PS3 was more powerful. They'd have no reason to lie if PS3 was indeed inferior.
This is the article:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html
It's filled with lies. Like MS's claim of "The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times."
That only applies to 10 megabytes of it! The rest is faster on PS3.
"Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors."
SPUs/SPEs are not DSPs and are praised in almost every developer interview I've read.
"The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one."
Actually due to the lie about SPEs/SPUs, their performance counts towards general purpose computing power and Cell kicks 360s ass.
"The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's."
Then why is nVidia claiming PS3s GPU is more powerful than 360 in it's entirety?
In conclusion, EVERY advantage MS claimed was a fabrication. If 360 was indeed superior, MS wouldn't have to lie like that.
Yeah that'll be the first time they've ever done that /sarcasm.
It was MS's lies in the first place that convinced me PS3 was more powerful. They'd have no reason to lie if PS3 was indeed inferior.
This is the article:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html
It's filled with lies. Like MS's claim of "The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times."
That only applies to 10 megabytes of it! The rest is faster on PS3.
"Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors."
SPUs/SPEs are not DSPs and are praised in almost every developer interview I've read.
"The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one."
Actually due to the lie about SPEs/SPUs, their performance counts towards general purpose computing power and Cell kicks 360s ass.
"The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's."
Then why is nVidia claiming PS3s GPU is more powerful than 360 in it's entirety?
In conclusion, EVERY advantage MS claimed was a fabrication. If 360 was indeed superior, MS wouldn't have to lie like that.
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Re: itsblackmelop - 2008-02-13 |
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» LMAO
GOOD POINT!
GOOD POINT!
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Re: Yaz - 2008-02-14 |
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» You can always find what you're looking for Techni
This article was during E3 2005 in response to Sony's claims that the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360 (remember 2 TFLOPs vs 1 TFLOP?).
"That only applies to 10 megabytes of it! The rest is faster on PS3."
It's not as simple as that. The faster embedded memory does give the 360 certain advantages over the PS3's GPU in certain areas, however it's not as clear cut as mentioned in that article because overall, the performance of the two GPUs are similar (with the 360's having the edge).
It's interesting that you accept this article isn't to be trusted as it's based upon MS's analysis of both consoles, and yet you seem willing to believe the PS3's GPU is more powerful just because NVidia says so. :| The facts are, devs _working_ on both consoles says this simply isn't true! Some say the GPUs are equal, others gives the 360's GPU the slight edge, none say RSX is more powerful.
"Actually due to the lie about SPEs/SPUs, their performance counts towards general purpose computing power and Cell kicks 360s ass."
No. The general purpose power of the 7 SPEs are negligible compared to the PPE and the 3 cores of the 360's CPU. The SPE's strengths are purely in their arithmetic performance. Hence to refer to devs again, all working on both consoles accepts the 360's CPU has more general computing performance compared to Cell (by about a factor of 2), whereas Cell has more arithmetic performance (again by about a factor of 2). Since ALL games are a mixture of general and arithmetic processing, the CPUs balance out overall, with the CPU of either console capable of outperforming the other depending on the game and how it uses the CPUs.
Sony focused on floating-point performance at E3 2005 to make Cell seem twice as powerful as Xenon overall (the 360's CPU), but this is as much a lie as anything MS have said. They also used the TFLOPS comparison to make BOTH the CPU and GPU of the PS3 seem twice as powerful as those of the 360, which again is untrue, and therefore also a 'lie'.
Hence it's no use pointing the finger at MS whilst ignoring Sony's claims. They are both going to make out that their console is superior. That's to be expected.
Instead, listen to the devs who are working on BOTH consoles for the facts, don't listen to Sony, MS, NVidia, ATI etc.
For example, Criterion are a Sony-leading multiformat developer, so you'd expect them to be as unbiased as possible but perhaps lean towards the PS3 slightly. And yet in podcast 15 where they compare both consoles, they come to the conclusion that both console are equal in terms of power!
http://www.criteriongames.com/podcast/
This article was during E3 2005 in response to Sony's claims that the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360 (remember 2 TFLOPs vs 1 TFLOP?).
"That only applies to 10 megabytes of it! The rest is faster on PS3."
It's not as simple as that. The faster embedded memory does give the 360 certain advantages over the PS3's GPU in certain areas, however it's not as clear cut as mentioned in that article because overall, the performance of the two GPUs are similar (with the 360's having the edge).
It's interesting that you accept this article isn't to be trusted as it's based upon MS's analysis of both consoles, and yet you seem willing to believe the PS3's GPU is more powerful just because NVidia says so. :| The facts are, devs _working_ on both consoles says this simply isn't true! Some say the GPUs are equal, others gives the 360's GPU the slight edge, none say RSX is more powerful.
"Actually due to the lie about SPEs/SPUs, their performance counts towards general purpose computing power and Cell kicks 360s ass."
No. The general purpose power of the 7 SPEs are negligible compared to the PPE and the 3 cores of the 360's CPU. The SPE's strengths are purely in their arithmetic performance. Hence to refer to devs again, all working on both consoles accepts the 360's CPU has more general computing performance compared to Cell (by about a factor of 2), whereas Cell has more arithmetic performance (again by about a factor of 2). Since ALL games are a mixture of general and arithmetic processing, the CPUs balance out overall, with the CPU of either console capable of outperforming the other depending on the game and how it uses the CPUs.
Sony focused on floating-point performance at E3 2005 to make Cell seem twice as powerful as Xenon overall (the 360's CPU), but this is as much a lie as anything MS have said. They also used the TFLOPS comparison to make BOTH the CPU and GPU of the PS3 seem twice as powerful as those of the 360, which again is untrue, and therefore also a 'lie'.
Hence it's no use pointing the finger at MS whilst ignoring Sony's claims. They are both going to make out that their console is superior. That's to be expected.
Instead, listen to the devs who are working on BOTH consoles for the facts, don't listen to Sony, MS, NVidia, ATI etc.
For example, Criterion are a Sony-leading multiformat developer, so you'd expect them to be as unbiased as possible but perhaps lean towards the PS3 slightly. And yet in podcast 15 where they compare both consoles, they come to the conclusion that both console are equal in terms of power!
http://www.criteriongames.com/podcast/
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by Henkibojj - 2008-02-14 |
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» Whoever thought MP would be exclusive?
I've been following the development updates on this game since trailer#1 came out, and Rockstar has time and time and time and time again said that the PS3 and the 360 versions will be e-x-a-c-t-l-y the same, downloadable content set aside. The PS3 version will that way be max 8.5 gigabytes due to the DL-DVD. Sadly, it will not use all the space on a BR disc. That's stupid IMO since PS3 consumers shouldn't be suffering of having an insufficient rival. Hell, we BOUGHT a PS3 to have more features and bigger games than the 360! Why should we settle with a DL-DVD-sized game when we have almost SIX TIMES the storing capabilities with a DL-BR?
And as for the comment about the 360 version being ported from the PS3 version, I don't think it's correct. I think they built both versions from the ground, however I can't say that I'm completely sure of it, so I let it be.
What I DO know is that Houser said the 360's DVD medium has caused trouble due to its small size, whereas the PS3 version was causing trouble because it took time to develop the game for the PS3. So, flamers could go on forever about what caused the delay, but both sides must know that both sides caused the delay in one way or another.
I've been following the development updates on this game since trailer#1 came out, and Rockstar has time and time and time and time again said that the PS3 and the 360 versions will be e-x-a-c-t-l-y the same, downloadable content set aside. The PS3 version will that way be max 8.5 gigabytes due to the DL-DVD. Sadly, it will not use all the space on a BR disc. That's stupid IMO since PS3 consumers shouldn't be suffering of having an insufficient rival. Hell, we BOUGHT a PS3 to have more features and bigger games than the 360! Why should we settle with a DL-DVD-sized game when we have almost SIX TIMES the storing capabilities with a DL-BR?
And as for the comment about the 360 version being ported from the PS3 version, I don't think it's correct. I think they built both versions from the ground, however I can't say that I'm completely sure of it, so I let it be.
What I DO know is that Houser said the 360's DVD medium has caused trouble due to its small size, whereas the PS3 version was causing trouble because it took time to develop the game for the PS3. So, flamers could go on forever about what caused the delay, but both sides must know that both sides caused the delay in one way or another.
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