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by LordQuas431 - 2008-01-24 |
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If that was the case I wish they would've released it on 360 first like everyone else does
If that was the case I wish they would've released it on 360 first like everyone else does
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-01-24 |
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Yep, I'm definately getting this one on the 360 because of the extra downloadable content. .
Yep, I'm definately getting this one on the 360 because of the extra downloadable content. .
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by Eclipze_ - 2008-01-24 |
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» Call me crazy...
But I dont want this game, and for me its NOT the biggest entertainment of 08... Its not because of what hes saying cause I could care less, I think I'm just past my GTA phase.
But I dont want this game, and for me its NOT the biggest entertainment of 08... Its not because of what hes saying cause I could care less, I think I'm just past my GTA phase.
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Re: Yaz - 2008-01-25 |
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» You say that now
But I doubt you'll still be saying that IF the reviews are brilliant and gamers everywhere are raving about how great GTA4 is. ;)
Let's wait and see.
But I doubt you'll still be saying that IF the reviews are brilliant and gamers everywhere are raving about how great GTA4 is. ;)
Let's wait and see.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-01-25 |
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» And your
saying that only because YOU like the game. I actually am tired of this kind of a game. I only go by my reviews (cause a review is just an opinion of someone else). I'm not one to go buy a game just because of hype.
saying that only because YOU like the game. I actually am tired of this kind of a game. I only go by my reviews (cause a review is just an opinion of someone else). I'm not one to go buy a game just because of hype.
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Re: Yaz - 2008-01-25 |
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» Really?
Where did I say I like this type of game? :P
Where did I say I like this type of game? :P
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-01-25 |
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» oops
Yaz I guess we both make assumptions.
I'll still be saying this even if I hear of great reviews.
Yaz I guess we both make assumptions.
I'll still be saying this even if I hear of great reviews.
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by RexNox - 2008-01-24 |
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» SPinnnnnn.....
Yes, the PS3 was a factor in the delay, but not because of the designing problems...but because of MGS4.
I guess they forgot that MGS2 made way for GTA3.
@Eclipze, he said BIGGER. Bigger doesn't mean anything. It's hype. And, besides, some of us will buy this game because usually this series is a good mix of technology and story.
Yes, the PS3 was a factor in the delay, but not because of the designing problems...but because of MGS4.
I guess they forgot that MGS2 made way for GTA3.
@Eclipze, he said BIGGER. Bigger doesn't mean anything. It's hype. And, besides, some of us will buy this game because usually this series is a good mix of technology and story.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-01-25 |
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» Its probably just me
but graphics wise, none of the GTA games were impressive at all. Thise one isnt even impressive. Story wise, my favorite one was GTA 3. And of course its hype, but he said that he dosnt see anything bigger than GTAIV in 08.. lol please... Killzone 2, Mgs4, and a lot of other games beat this game both story and graphics wise.
+ like I said before, I dont care about the delay or what this guy is saying (that the PS3 is the reason that the game is delayed), its just I see way better games than this.
but graphics wise, none of the GTA games were impressive at all. Thise one isnt even impressive. Story wise, my favorite one was GTA 3. And of course its hype, but he said that he dosnt see anything bigger than GTAIV in 08.. lol please... Killzone 2, Mgs4, and a lot of other games beat this game both story and graphics wise.
+ like I said before, I dont care about the delay or what this guy is saying (that the PS3 is the reason that the game is delayed), its just I see way better games than this.
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Re: Yaz - 2008-01-25 |
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» Hey
" lol please... Killzone 2, Mgs4, and a lot of other games beat this game both story and graphics wise"
Can I borrow your time machine when you're finished with it?
" lol please... Killzone 2, Mgs4, and a lot of other games beat this game both story and graphics wise"
Can I borrow your time machine when you're finished with it?
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-01-25 |
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» You wont need one
Mgs4 will be coming a month or two after GTA IV releases. Killzone 2 you can just look at the graphics part on some gameplay trailers.
Mgs4 will be coming a month or two after GTA IV releases. Killzone 2 you can just look at the graphics part on some gameplay trailers.
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Re: Yaz - 2008-01-25 |
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» Er-hem
You said both STORY and graphics wise. Of course early judgements can be made about the graphics, but for the story you have to wait for the finished games FIRST, no matter how great or poor you think the stories may be before released. :P
You said both STORY and graphics wise. Of course early judgements can be made about the graphics, but for the story you have to wait for the finished games FIRST, no matter how great or poor you think the stories may be before released. :P
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Re: xicor - 2008-01-25 |
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» Yawnzors
Eclipze, graphics and stonyline aren't the only things that are suppose to make this game brilliant. This time around it's going to be behavioral AI and the fact that all the bodies HAVE SKELETAL SYSTEMS that make them adapt to their environment and interact with it in a more realistic way.
Eclipze, graphics and stonyline aren't the only things that are suppose to make this game brilliant. This time around it's going to be behavioral AI and the fact that all the bodies HAVE SKELETAL SYSTEMS that make them adapt to their environment and interact with it in a more realistic way.
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by Quixand - 2008-01-24 |
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» huh??
it's already been delayed... it's already January!!!! gamers have been going on and on about how sweet their gaming was during the holidays... why are people still after the reasons of why GTA4 got delayed??? move on already from that will you???!!!!! i mean it's almost february for crying out loud, are we still going to discuss this till April???
to LordQuas, he mentioned that the PS3 was a contributing factor for the delay... doesn't mean that the 360 version went flawless or wasn't a "contributing factor" as well or if the 360 was already primed and ready to ship last October.
it's already been delayed... it's already January!!!! gamers have been going on and on about how sweet their gaming was during the holidays... why are people still after the reasons of why GTA4 got delayed??? move on already from that will you???!!!!! i mean it's almost february for crying out loud, are we still going to discuss this till April???
to LordQuas, he mentioned that the PS3 was a contributing factor for the delay... doesn't mean that the 360 version went flawless or wasn't a "contributing factor" as well or if the 360 was already primed and ready to ship last October.
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by skidz - 2008-01-24 |
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» pain and simple fact
Coding for the PS3 is like learning to ride your bike all over again, and for the 360 its the same old song and dance we have been doing for years.
Coding for the PS3 is like learning to ride your bike all over again, and for the 360 its the same old song and dance we have been doing for years.
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Re: LiK SHoT - 2008-01-24 |
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well i hope u don't mean that as a shot at the 360 b/c if you read the article it states that the ps3 is now identical to what? the xbox 360 version! they had to match what they were already able to achieve on existing architecture. that is what i call inefficient ;)
well i hope u don't mean that as a shot at the 360 b/c if you read the article it states that the ps3 is now identical to what? the xbox 360 version! they had to match what they were already able to achieve on existing architecture. that is what i call inefficient ;)
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Re: Quixand - 2008-01-24 |
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» Lik Shot
i have a 5 year old Nokia Phone... i'm pretty fast with it, texting and stuff.
now i got myself a Blackberry... took me sometime to adjust, cause it's something new and something more complicated... took some period before i've managed to get up to my usual speed that i'm used to on my old Nokia.
does that mean that the Blackberry is inefficient? no... it just means that i have to learn it first.
but even if i had to take the trouble of learning something new, and the initial hindrance that i experience because of it... it's pretty clear in my mind which is the better phone and which one i'll be moving on with.
i have a 5 year old Nokia Phone... i'm pretty fast with it, texting and stuff.
now i got myself a Blackberry... took me sometime to adjust, cause it's something new and something more complicated... took some period before i've managed to get up to my usual speed that i'm used to on my old Nokia.
does that mean that the Blackberry is inefficient? no... it just means that i have to learn it first.
but even if i had to take the trouble of learning something new, and the initial hindrance that i experience because of it... it's pretty clear in my mind which is the better phone and which one i'll be moving on with.
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Re: poeticjedi - 2008-01-24 |
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» lik...
pull uir head outta ur butt before you make an ignorant statement like that again. the ps3 is known to be harder to code for...by far, in theory can pump out better gfx, but it takes so much time its better to get it to even, if the ps3 version ran slower it would only hurt their sales, and waiting till mgs4 sells units WILL allow them to sell more units across the board.... dont fanboy it, and think a bit
poeple will buy the crap outta this game whenever its releases this year.... just intial firestorm sales will be stronger a little later in the year, looks better financially too
pull uir head outta ur butt before you make an ignorant statement like that again. the ps3 is known to be harder to code for...by far, in theory can pump out better gfx, but it takes so much time its better to get it to even, if the ps3 version ran slower it would only hurt their sales, and waiting till mgs4 sells units WILL allow them to sell more units across the board.... dont fanboy it, and think a bit
poeple will buy the crap outta this game whenever its releases this year.... just intial firestorm sales will be stronger a little later in the year, looks better financially too
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Re: DVSDevise - 2008-01-25 |
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Rockstar need to MGS4 to sell units so they can sell more PS3 versions of GTAIV?
Hahahahahahahaha.
Why do people think MGS4 is a bigger killer app than GTAIV? The last PS2 version of GTA outsold the last MSG by almost 7 times.
Rockstar need to MGS4 to sell units so they can sell more PS3 versions of GTAIV?
Hahahahahahahaha.
Why do people think MGS4 is a bigger killer app than GTAIV? The last PS2 version of GTA outsold the last MSG by almost 7 times.
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-01-25 |
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» Dvsdevice
I can see what you are talking about and the reason behind it is that any mgs game is 7 times (:) ) harder and more complicated than the shoot first kill everything and then dont even bother asking questions gaming style of GTA which is great by the way... In other words my friend it appeals to a broader audience thus, more sales.
And you can be absolutely sure that mgs4 will sell a lot ps3s when it gets launched not as many as some people hope for but a lot nevertheless.... So rockstar's waiting is very possibly worth it..
Also gta4's sales will go head to head with mgs4 sales (everybody is an analyst right? :)
I can see what you are talking about and the reason behind it is that any mgs game is 7 times (:) ) harder and more complicated than the shoot first kill everything and then dont even bother asking questions gaming style of GTA which is great by the way... In other words my friend it appeals to a broader audience thus, more sales.
And you can be absolutely sure that mgs4 will sell a lot ps3s when it gets launched not as many as some people hope for but a lot nevertheless.... So rockstar's waiting is very possibly worth it..
Also gta4's sales will go head to head with mgs4 sales (everybody is an analyst right? :)
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-01-25 |
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I didn specify that the head to head sales of the two games I talked about...on ps3 only not icluding sales on the 360...
I didn specify that the head to head sales of the two games I talked about...on ps3 only not icluding sales on the 360...
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by MasterMind111 - 2008-01-24 |
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» Shut up!
I dont see why everyone argues about stupid systems, XBOX 360 is a good system, PS3 is a good system, hell Wii is a good system. Just live with it, life is better with variety, not just one type of a thing.
I dont see why everyone argues about stupid systems, XBOX 360 is a good system, PS3 is a good system, hell Wii is a good system. Just live with it, life is better with variety, not just one type of a thing.
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Re: Matt5112 - 2008-01-24 |
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» really?
Stop being apathetic!
See how you can NEVER win?
Stop being apathetic!
See how you can NEVER win?
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Re: xicor - 2008-01-25 |
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» evolution
MasterMind, competition is the foundation of getting technological evolution to accelerate at it's peak.
MasterMind, competition is the foundation of getting technological evolution to accelerate at it's peak.
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by DVSDevise - 2008-01-25 |
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This is just confirming the obvious. Personally I don't care about the delay now but I was pissed at the time.
This is just confirming the obvious. Personally I don't care about the delay now but I was pissed at the time.
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by Kingofdaberbz - 2008-01-25 |
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» ..........
everyone knew the ps3 caused the delay.Also, I don't see how mgs would help the ps3 much since gta is a bigger franchise and will come out months b4 mgs4,but gta may help mgs4 sales.
everyone knew the ps3 caused the delay.Also, I don't see how mgs would help the ps3 much since gta is a bigger franchise and will come out months b4 mgs4,but gta may help mgs4 sales.
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Re: solid0snake - 2008-01-25 |
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» GTA bigger franchise? Whoot?
Why should GTA be a bigger franchise?
MGS2 helped the PS2 in 2001 and MGS4 will help the PS3 in 2008!
That's it. On my PS3 i can enjoy MGS4 and GT4.
Why should GTA be a bigger franchise?
MGS2 helped the PS2 in 2001 and MGS4 will help the PS3 in 2008!
That's it. On my PS3 i can enjoy MGS4 and GT4.
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by lmxloco - 2008-01-25 |
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Delay or not, and regardless of which system caused the delay...I'm glad they've got a hard date in. That means the game is very close to being finished and now they're just working on optimization and finishing touches.
And besides, I own a 360 (and that's it), but I'm glad that the PS3 version looks identical. I hope it plays the same too, because quite frankly, I'm getting tired of all the fanboys from both sides arguing about miniscule aspects if a game is ever so slightly different between the two platforms.
Get over it and just enjoy the fact that the game is available on your system.
Delay or not, and regardless of which system caused the delay...I'm glad they've got a hard date in. That means the game is very close to being finished and now they're just working on optimization and finishing touches.
And besides, I own a 360 (and that's it), but I'm glad that the PS3 version looks identical. I hope it plays the same too, because quite frankly, I'm getting tired of all the fanboys from both sides arguing about miniscule aspects if a game is ever so slightly different between the two platforms.
Get over it and just enjoy the fact that the game is available on your system.
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by hush404 - 2008-01-25 |
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» lol
So many 360bots crying "Why wasn't the 360 ver released first!". I'm glad Rockstar had the balls to hold it back and finish up both versions instead of giving the PS3 owners the short stick.
Also, I like the cellphone analogy! that worked perfect. See what MS did with the 360 is pack in more of the same ol hardware (much like a PC would be upgraded) and thus developing for the 360 really isn't much different from the original Xbox. WHere as the PS3, theres a whole new beast to learn, just like the PS2 and it takes devs time to unlock its full potential. Thats why in 4 years you'll be getting PS3 games that are still pushing the hardware further while the 360 has topped out long before due it's insides being utilised to the max. Look to games as your indicator, sure they take a little more TLC and time to polish off, but compare first years PS3 games to first years 360 games and theres really quite a gap between "Next-gen-ness" quality. Which will only continue to be appeaant as the PS3 is unlocked and understood more from a programing point of view.
So many 360bots crying "Why wasn't the 360 ver released first!". I'm glad Rockstar had the balls to hold it back and finish up both versions instead of giving the PS3 owners the short stick.
Also, I like the cellphone analogy! that worked perfect. See what MS did with the 360 is pack in more of the same ol hardware (much like a PC would be upgraded) and thus developing for the 360 really isn't much different from the original Xbox. WHere as the PS3, theres a whole new beast to learn, just like the PS2 and it takes devs time to unlock its full potential. Thats why in 4 years you'll be getting PS3 games that are still pushing the hardware further while the 360 has topped out long before due it's insides being utilised to the max. Look to games as your indicator, sure they take a little more TLC and time to polish off, but compare first years PS3 games to first years 360 games and theres really quite a gap between "Next-gen-ness" quality. Which will only continue to be appeaant as the PS3 is unlocked and understood more from a programing point of view.
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» What balls? :-)
"I'm glad Rockstar had the balls to hold it back and finish up both versions instead of giving the PS3 owners the short stick."
From the beginning Rockstar said GTA4 will be released simultaneous for the 360 and PS3. They made that promise the day it was announced knowing that one version is bound to hold up the other.
"thus developing for the 360 really isn't much different from the original Xbox. WHere as the PS3, theres a whole new beast to learn, just like the PS2 and it takes devs time to unlock its full potential"
BOTH consoles have potential which will take devs time to unlock. Developing on the 360 is only like the XBox and PC from a software environment perspective, but it's a completely different 'beast' inside, with it's 3 core IBM processor (the XBox had an Intel Pentium) and it's ATI GPU with embedded EDRAM (the XBox had a Nvidia GPU).
It will take years for devs to get the most out of the 360 (like all consoles), and so the PS3 is nothing special or unique in this respect. The issue that trouble devs the most on the PS3 is the Cell processor, but that has it's own advantages and disadvantages.
"compare first years PS3 games to first years 360 games and theres really quite a gap between "Next-gen-ness" quality."
That's debateable, but besides that, the PS3's first year came after the 360's first year, and in many cases, actually benefited from work which had been done on the 360. It's not about the PS3 being superior or the games better (also debateable), but the fact that game technology is ever evolving because each year builds upon the technology and techniques from the previous year(s). So the PS3 first year SHOULD reflect this. It's also true that the one year difference between the consoles is for launch only, in terms of technology and software developement, they are very close to each other.
"Which will only continue to be appeaant as the PS3 is unlocked and understood more from a programing point of view."
Actually, as time passes, more and more of BOTH consoles will be unlocked. Today we see that the early perception of the PS3 being _significantly_ more powerful than the 360 is giving way to the realization that the two consoles are actually very close to each other in terms of power. That will continue to be the case in future.
"I'm glad Rockstar had the balls to hold it back and finish up both versions instead of giving the PS3 owners the short stick."
From the beginning Rockstar said GTA4 will be released simultaneous for the 360 and PS3. They made that promise the day it was announced knowing that one version is bound to hold up the other.
"thus developing for the 360 really isn't much different from the original Xbox. WHere as the PS3, theres a whole new beast to learn, just like the PS2 and it takes devs time to unlock its full potential"
BOTH consoles have potential which will take devs time to unlock. Developing on the 360 is only like the XBox and PC from a software environment perspective, but it's a completely different 'beast' inside, with it's 3 core IBM processor (the XBox had an Intel Pentium) and it's ATI GPU with embedded EDRAM (the XBox had a Nvidia GPU).
It will take years for devs to get the most out of the 360 (like all consoles), and so the PS3 is nothing special or unique in this respect. The issue that trouble devs the most on the PS3 is the Cell processor, but that has it's own advantages and disadvantages.
"compare first years PS3 games to first years 360 games and theres really quite a gap between "Next-gen-ness" quality."
That's debateable, but besides that, the PS3's first year came after the 360's first year, and in many cases, actually benefited from work which had been done on the 360. It's not about the PS3 being superior or the games better (also debateable), but the fact that game technology is ever evolving because each year builds upon the technology and techniques from the previous year(s). So the PS3 first year SHOULD reflect this. It's also true that the one year difference between the consoles is for launch only, in terms of technology and software developement, they are very close to each other.
"Which will only continue to be appeaant as the PS3 is unlocked and understood more from a programing point of view."
Actually, as time passes, more and more of BOTH consoles will be unlocked. Today we see that the early perception of the PS3 being _significantly_ more powerful than the 360 is giving way to the realization that the two consoles are actually very close to each other in terms of power. That will continue to be the case in future.
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» UG is correct...
Both systems are a challenge to work on....SNES was a literal doubling of the power in NES, you know "more of the same" yet the 1st gen games were ok, but games continued to look better and better right till the end of it's life....
Also first year PS3 games came out 2 years after 360 and therefore had an extra year of development.....even though PS3 wasn't in production, Devs still had working systems, with all the final specs other then the blu-ray drives, as that's all they were waiting on......so for even an extra year of work....drakes is not better then gears....sorry to say....and that was Sony's biggest game supposedly this winter.....meh...
As UG said, they systems are very close in power, and will just continue that way....there is no special "unlocking" of the PS3....there will be some improvements with optimization but it's not like they are only able to use 2 SPE's and have to "unlock" the other....they are all there and being used, just not properly...
So we will see the same thing for years....games looking almost identical, and occasionally looking/running better on 360....
Both systems are a challenge to work on....SNES was a literal doubling of the power in NES, you know "more of the same" yet the 1st gen games were ok, but games continued to look better and better right till the end of it's life....
Also first year PS3 games came out 2 years after 360 and therefore had an extra year of development.....even though PS3 wasn't in production, Devs still had working systems, with all the final specs other then the blu-ray drives, as that's all they were waiting on......so for even an extra year of work....drakes is not better then gears....sorry to say....and that was Sony's biggest game supposedly this winter.....meh...
As UG said, they systems are very close in power, and will just continue that way....there is no special "unlocking" of the PS3....there will be some improvements with optimization but it's not like they are only able to use 2 SPE's and have to "unlock" the other....they are all there and being used, just not properly...
So we will see the same thing for years....games looking almost identical, and occasionally looking/running better on 360....
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» To "Unregistered Gamer"
Well, as perceptions go, you said "the early perception of the PS3 being _significantly_ more powerful than the 360 is giving way to the realization that the two consoles are actually very close to each other in terms of power."
- Agreed. That is the general perception now, with most Developers still not able to get up to speed on the PS3's architecture.
However, as this is still a perception, this statement of yours "That will continue to be the case in future." doesn't really hold water. Perceptions may change in the future. It may turn out that Developers perceive that the 360 is more powerful, or that the PS3 is way more powerful. It may swing either way, or it may continue. Either way, your statement that the current perception will hold for all eternity is faulty logic.
Well, as perceptions go, you said "the early perception of the PS3 being _significantly_ more powerful than the 360 is giving way to the realization that the two consoles are actually very close to each other in terms of power."
- Agreed. That is the general perception now, with most Developers still not able to get up to speed on the PS3's architecture.
However, as this is still a perception, this statement of yours "That will continue to be the case in future." doesn't really hold water. Perceptions may change in the future. It may turn out that Developers perceive that the 360 is more powerful, or that the PS3 is way more powerful. It may swing either way, or it may continue. Either way, your statement that the current perception will hold for all eternity is faulty logic.
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» That's not quite the point Thinker
"It may turn out that Developers perceive that the 360 is more powerful, or that the PS3 is way more powerful. It may swing either way, or it may continue."
Devs know the hardware Thinker, they are not confused in the way that some gamers are. So whilst there's still a lot to be explored for both consoles, they do know that the power difference presented during E3 2005 doesn't exist (hence knowledgeable devs soon afterwards stated that the PS3 was only slightly more powerful, whilst the media still held onto the idea that the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360. 2TFLOPS vs 1TFLOP anyone?).
The point I'm making is that many gamers and large sections of the media focussed on what Sony _said_ the PS3 will be, and ignored devs who stated that the two consoles are similarly matched for power (some even attacking the devs for saying this). Even today some gamers still hold on to the idea of the PS3 being 'way more powerful' than the 360. However, the reality is that it's only slightly more powerful, and therefore over time, such perceptions will have to give way to reality (but there will always be a few who deny it).
We are seeing this today, because the the games speak for themselves, and therefore it will continue in future because of the facts about the hardware, and therefore more and more gamers will see this for themselves. But naturally, that will never stop the long heated arguements over which console has the best graphics and why they are superior to everything else...blah blah blah. ;-)
"It may turn out that Developers perceive that the 360 is more powerful, or that the PS3 is way more powerful. It may swing either way, or it may continue."
Devs know the hardware Thinker, they are not confused in the way that some gamers are. So whilst there's still a lot to be explored for both consoles, they do know that the power difference presented during E3 2005 doesn't exist (hence knowledgeable devs soon afterwards stated that the PS3 was only slightly more powerful, whilst the media still held onto the idea that the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360. 2TFLOPS vs 1TFLOP anyone?).
The point I'm making is that many gamers and large sections of the media focussed on what Sony _said_ the PS3 will be, and ignored devs who stated that the two consoles are similarly matched for power (some even attacking the devs for saying this). Even today some gamers still hold on to the idea of the PS3 being 'way more powerful' than the 360. However, the reality is that it's only slightly more powerful, and therefore over time, such perceptions will have to give way to reality (but there will always be a few who deny it).
We are seeing this today, because the the games speak for themselves, and therefore it will continue in future because of the facts about the hardware, and therefore more and more gamers will see this for themselves. But naturally, that will never stop the long heated arguements over which console has the best graphics and why they are superior to everything else...blah blah blah. ;-)
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-01-25 |
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» Ug
You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said but one thing makes me feel you are missing the bigger picture even through your solid point of view...
And thats the fact that the emerging winner will be judged not by 'same in power' but since no console is alot more powerful the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail.
Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3.
You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said but one thing makes me feel you are missing the bigger picture even through your solid point of view...
And thats the fact that the emerging winner will be judged not by 'same in power' but since no console is alot more powerful the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail.
Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3.
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Re: Unregistered Gamer - 2008-01-25 |
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» Thanks...but
"You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said"
Thanks :-)
"the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail."
Power really doesn't matter that much Constantinecy, if it did, the XBox would have outtaken the PS2 and won last gen and the Wii wouldn't be where it is today, neither would the DS dominate against the more powerful PSP. It really comes down to what these machines are all about, and that's games.
Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3.
Last gen the PS2 completely dominated the market, leaving the XBox and GC w-a-y behind in second and third place respectively. By the end of this gen, the gap between all three is likely to be much closer than last gen, therefore whilst there will be an overall winner, that doesn't mean the others are losers, since I think all three companies would have done well out of this gen.
"You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said"
Thanks :-)
"the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail."
Power really doesn't matter that much Constantinecy, if it did, the XBox would have outtaken the PS2 and won last gen and the Wii wouldn't be where it is today, neither would the DS dominate against the more powerful PSP. It really comes down to what these machines are all about, and that's games.
Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3.
Last gen the PS2 completely dominated the market, leaving the XBox and GC w-a-y behind in second and third place respectively. By the end of this gen, the gap between all three is likely to be much closer than last gen, therefore whilst there will be an overall winner, that doesn't mean the others are losers, since I think all three companies would have done well out of this gen.
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» Sorry, I'll say that again with corrections
"You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said"
Thanks :-)
"the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail."
Power really doesn't matter that much Constantinecy, if it did, the XBox would have overtaken the PS2 and won last gen and the Wii wouldn't be where it is today, neither would the DS dominate against the more powerful PSP. It really comes down to what these machines are all about, and that's games.
"Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3."
Last gen the PS2 completely dominated the market, leaving the XBox and GC w-a-y behind in second and third place respectively. By the end of this gen, the gap between all three is likely to be much closer than last gen, therefore whilst there will be an overall winner, that doesn't mean the others are losers, since I think all three companies would have done well out of this gen.
"You've formed a very solid argument here and I agree with most things you said"
Thanks :-)
"the 'slightly more powerful ' as you say will prevail."
Power really doesn't matter that much Constantinecy, if it did, the XBox would have overtaken the PS2 and won last gen and the Wii wouldn't be where it is today, neither would the DS dominate against the more powerful PSP. It really comes down to what these machines are all about, and that's games.
"Today's fierce competition leave's no room for big gaps...So the one with the slightest edge will prevail. On that line the ultimate winner is the ps3."
Last gen the PS2 completely dominated the market, leaving the XBox and GC w-a-y behind in second and third place respectively. By the end of this gen, the gap between all three is likely to be much closer than last gen, therefore whilst there will be an overall winner, that doesn't mean the others are losers, since I think all three companies would have done well out of this gen.
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» ^^^And just to clarify
I know you didn't say the others are losers, I just feel they will all be winners this gen, only some will be bigger winners than others (if you get my meaning :-)).
I know you didn't say the others are losers, I just feel they will all be winners this gen, only some will be bigger winners than others (if you get my meaning :-)).
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» Ridiculous
In four years Microsoft will most likely have the Xbox 720(silly buzz words >_>) on the market or very close to it, making the PS3 outdated.
In four years Microsoft will most likely have the Xbox 720(silly buzz words >_>) on the market or very close to it, making the PS3 outdated.
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» But -
- Sony will have the PS4 as well xicor.
When Sony said they'd designed the PS3 for a 10 year lifespan, that didn't mean the PS4 will arrive 10 years after the launch of the PS3.
The Playstation and PS2 have had lifespans well beyond what Sony expected, so this time with the PS3, it's been designed with the expectation of matching the lifespan of Sony's first two consoles.
Therefore expect the PS4 to go head to head with Microsoft's next console.
- Sony will have the PS4 as well xicor.
When Sony said they'd designed the PS3 for a 10 year lifespan, that didn't mean the PS4 will arrive 10 years after the launch of the PS3.
The Playstation and PS2 have had lifespans well beyond what Sony expected, so this time with the PS3, it's been designed with the expectation of matching the lifespan of Sony's first two consoles.
Therefore expect the PS4 to go head to head with Microsoft's next console.
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by Metal Jody - 2008-01-25 |
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» lol
I wish I had a Microsony PS360.
I wish I had a Microsony PS360.
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» har!
Wouldn't you rather a microstation??
Wouldn't you rather a microstation??
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by na2rul - 2008-01-25 |
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» I said this once and I'll say it again
Infinity Ward just proved to the world that Devs out their are fat, Lazy and useless couch potatos (point at Valve).
PS3 and 360 versions of COD4 were identical. it was flawless. No hassle........unlike some who delay.
I still cant believ Valve threw PS3 HL2 for EA to port
Darn lazy(fat!!!!) generation!
Sorry no punn intented
Infinity Ward just proved to the world that Devs out their are fat, Lazy and useless couch potatos (point at Valve).
PS3 and 360 versions of COD4 were identical. it was flawless. No hassle........unlike some who delay.
I still cant believ Valve threw PS3 HL2 for EA to port
Darn lazy(fat!!!!) generation!
Sorry no punn intented
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» Cod4
One thing I see thats not flawless and thats lazy about infinity ward is there online. It still disconnects from games and puts you in games with only your party (or no one if your alone). There lack of support or updates on the online portion is kind of a let down for me.
If you want one pack of developers to say "wow" at (in a good way lol) it has to be Insomniac. They updated all of the bugs and glitchs out there games. they play online like every week to see how gamers play so they can fix gun damage and other things inside the game (like how they now have the option to turn off the 40mm nades and bullseye tags). Resistance 2 will show us a good update on graphics and show us what they can do onlline (60 player online ^_^)
One thing I see thats not flawless and thats lazy about infinity ward is there online. It still disconnects from games and puts you in games with only your party (or no one if your alone). There lack of support or updates on the online portion is kind of a let down for me.
If you want one pack of developers to say "wow" at (in a good way lol) it has to be Insomniac. They updated all of the bugs and glitchs out there games. they play online like every week to see how gamers play so they can fix gun damage and other things inside the game (like how they now have the option to turn off the 40mm nades and bullseye tags). Resistance 2 will show us a good update on graphics and show us what they can do onlline (60 player online ^_^)
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by Shatterdome - 2008-01-25 |
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» People saying 360 is the same but more as xbox...
You are idiots.....seriously do you beleive this ?
360 is a multi-core, multi-threaded CPU just like the PS3....both run PC'esque video cards, both have harddrives and network cards.....from a programming standpoint they are actually very similar....
The problem ? Mainly that Sony did not develop a huge set of API for 3rd parties to work with....MS did.....so when someone working on PS3 wants to do something like light an environment, they have to write their own code for it....on 360 MS made sure there was a pre-existing API or function for lighting that devs just had to throw their variables into......anything more customized though and they would have to take the same approach as they would have to on PS3....
Not to mention splitting the ram was a big no no......if you don't design your game from the ground up for PS3, then working with that memory conifguration opposed to a whole chunk of memory will always be easier....
Ahh well, as far as the delay goes....who cares....
You are idiots.....seriously do you beleive this ?
360 is a multi-core, multi-threaded CPU just like the PS3....both run PC'esque video cards, both have harddrives and network cards.....from a programming standpoint they are actually very similar....
The problem ? Mainly that Sony did not develop a huge set of API for 3rd parties to work with....MS did.....so when someone working on PS3 wants to do something like light an environment, they have to write their own code for it....on 360 MS made sure there was a pre-existing API or function for lighting that devs just had to throw their variables into......anything more customized though and they would have to take the same approach as they would have to on PS3....
Not to mention splitting the ram was a big no no......if you don't design your game from the ground up for PS3, then working with that memory conifguration opposed to a whole chunk of memory will always be easier....
Ahh well, as far as the delay goes....who cares....
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by bad rider - 2008-02-05 |
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» duh
kk its a well excepted fact ps3 is different to develop for and rockstar is very closely tied to sony so all i can say is if you didnt see this dont stand around on train tracks
kk its a well excepted fact ps3 is different to develop for and rockstar is very closely tied to sony so all i can say is if you didnt see this dont stand around on train tracks
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by bad rider - 2008-02-05 |
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» anger
"We don't want anybody else to raise the bar for a genre that we created and that everybody else ripped off," he added.
kk this pisses me off no one is rippinng them off ive had this arguement about saints row well done you created a genre clap and applause its very good but the fact others follow this style and calling them rip offs is like saying greenday are a copy of elvis as he frontlined rock and roll
so really what i guess im saying is go bleep yourself your the type that patents things just to sell off the rights and instead of letting things reach their full potential, you hinder them, go ***** yourself
"We don't want anybody else to raise the bar for a genre that we created and that everybody else ripped off," he added.
kk this pisses me off no one is rippinng them off ive had this arguement about saints row well done you created a genre clap and applause its very good but the fact others follow this style and calling them rip offs is like saying greenday are a copy of elvis as he frontlined rock and roll
so really what i guess im saying is go bleep yourself your the type that patents things just to sell off the rights and instead of letting things reach their full potential, you hinder them, go ***** yourself
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