Posted Dec 03, 2007 at 10:20AM by Sally B.
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by Mister Common Sense - 2007-12-03 |
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» Future career options?
Let's look at part of his resume:
For the last 11 years I sat on my ass for 8 hours a day and played videogames. When I wasn't doing that I sat on my ass even more and wrote about them, usually writing what people told me to say but in my own words.
Anyone want to hire me?
Let's look at part of his resume:
For the last 11 years I sat on my ass for 8 hours a day and played videogames. When I wasn't doing that I sat on my ass even more and wrote about them, usually writing what people told me to say but in my own words.
Anyone want to hire me?
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Re: ArcaneView - 2007-12-03 |
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» ?
Video game professionals (game players) are winning $1,000,000 in prize money paid on the spot and not over a period of time. Video Game Journalists make about $60,000 a year... How much money has channel surfing on the TV or youtube and trolling the internet ever scored you?
Video game professionals (game players) are winning $1,000,000 in prize money paid on the spot and not over a period of time. Video Game Journalists make about $60,000 a year... How much money has channel surfing on the TV or youtube and trolling the internet ever scored you?
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Re: Dodo - 2007-12-03 |
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» LMFAO
Mr. Lack of Common Sense got OWNED!!
Mr. Lack of Common Sense got OWNED!!
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Re: The Obsidian - 2007-12-04 |
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» Shut up
Ur just a freaking Douche arnt u Mr "Sense" give em a break he just lost his job...
Ur just a freaking Douche arnt u Mr "Sense" give em a break he just lost his job...
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Re: What common sense is really about - 2007-12-04 |
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» ...
Mister common sense if my reputation were as low as your, i would do myself a favor and leave before making things worse... You are not welcome here.
Mister common sense if my reputation were as low as your, i would do myself a favor and leave before making things worse... You are not welcome here.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-12-05 |
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» Owned?
You call that a real job?
That's winning the lottery!
Of course once your foot is in the door, you're set.
You have to admire the guy for writing a true review and getting fired in the process, but I don't think this guy could get a job that requires real job skills in any field.
You call that a real job?
That's winning the lottery!
Of course once your foot is in the door, you're set.
You have to admire the guy for writing a true review and getting fired in the process, but I don't think this guy could get a job that requires real job skills in any field.
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by xXPedroMaxXx - 2007-12-03 |
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» XD
LMAO!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!
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by platon - 2007-12-03 |
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» I never liked this guy anyway
And ps: For the guys that thinks that videogaming is a way of living... it's the same as winning lottery, but with a lot more practice...
Anyway, I'm against those kind of people who thinks gaming can pays off... Games are for fun, nobody (or almost) are "the best" of their stuff, nor gaming, nor singner, nor actor, etc. It's a dream for some, but at least not for me,jut thinking about getting p the morning, then play the same video game, in the same old tracks, with the same people (or almost, since they are the best after you...).... no, not for me, lol. I'm studying at the university of montreal in psychology, and at least I know it'll help some people, I'm not into "helping myself having a sad life, playing games and watching tv all day"...
Sorry for all the hate, But I mean, is Qj full of 13 years old kids or what? I mean, who really wants to play videogames all-day? You'd have no fun anymore playing them, it would be "a job" and nothing more after a while (it's like eating what you like best, over and over again, after a while, you dislike it and it makes you sad).
Finally, Jeff Gerstmann was unproffessionnal, and if we want the gaming community to be taken seriously, he's not the guy to hire! I don't want to read hate message in the reviews, just plain real tuff, like cnet.com (exept for molly wood, but she's not rating the stuff), where you see the real stuff, not a guy who's hating a game, and saying to everybody (in front of the people who made the game) that it's (insert insults). I mean, you can say it's poor and why, but insulting and other stuff like that is abusing of the small power the guys who rate stuff have...
He's like the king or something, that gained the power to change everything in gold, he abused, and he got himself into gold. It's the same.
PS: Sorry, I look like I'm in guy PMS or something, lol.
And ps: For the guys that thinks that videogaming is a way of living... it's the same as winning lottery, but with a lot more practice...
Anyway, I'm against those kind of people who thinks gaming can pays off... Games are for fun, nobody (or almost) are "the best" of their stuff, nor gaming, nor singner, nor actor, etc. It's a dream for some, but at least not for me,jut thinking about getting p the morning, then play the same video game, in the same old tracks, with the same people (or almost, since they are the best after you...).... no, not for me, lol. I'm studying at the university of montreal in psychology, and at least I know it'll help some people, I'm not into "helping myself having a sad life, playing games and watching tv all day"...
Sorry for all the hate, But I mean, is Qj full of 13 years old kids or what? I mean, who really wants to play videogames all-day? You'd have no fun anymore playing them, it would be "a job" and nothing more after a while (it's like eating what you like best, over and over again, after a while, you dislike it and it makes you sad).
Finally, Jeff Gerstmann was unproffessionnal, and if we want the gaming community to be taken seriously, he's not the guy to hire! I don't want to read hate message in the reviews, just plain real tuff, like cnet.com (exept for molly wood, but she's not rating the stuff), where you see the real stuff, not a guy who's hating a game, and saying to everybody (in front of the people who made the game) that it's (insert insults). I mean, you can say it's poor and why, but insulting and other stuff like that is abusing of the small power the guys who rate stuff have...
He's like the king or something, that gained the power to change everything in gold, he abused, and he got himself into gold. It's the same.
PS: Sorry, I look like I'm in guy PMS or something, lol.
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Re: Naroon Kasui - 2007-12-03 |
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Maybe not everyone is like you. I for one, have gaming as my top favorite hobby. It'll stay like that till the day i day (unless theres games in the afterlife lmao)
I do other things of coarse, like extreme sports [cant get enough] and i even write my own reviews from time to time. i didnt really like Jeff anyway because he seemed like a 360 fanboy t o me, but meh.
Maybe not everyone is like you. I for one, have gaming as my top favorite hobby. It'll stay like that till the day i day (unless theres games in the afterlife lmao)
I do other things of coarse, like extreme sports [cant get enough] and i even write my own reviews from time to time. i didnt really like Jeff anyway because he seemed like a 360 fanboy t o me, but meh.
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Re: Temprix - 2007-12-03 |
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» What?
Wait, what? I cannot understand what you're saying...
Wait, what? I cannot understand what you're saying...
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Re: Neuromancer - 2007-12-04 |
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» "insulting" games
Games aren't people. They are a product. The purpose of reviews is to seperate the ones that suck and the ones that don't. Unlike people, games aren't created evenly. If the people who made the game don't like a review, they need to do a better job next time. Or they don't get our money.
Games aren't people. They are a product. The purpose of reviews is to seperate the ones that suck and the ones that don't. Unlike people, games aren't created evenly. If the people who made the game don't like a review, they need to do a better job next time. Or they don't get our money.
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Re: Stealth! - 2007-12-04 |
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» Neuromancer
So! Just cause one person or a few find a game bad, doesn't mean everyone will. To some some games aren't good, to others is a gold mine. I saw his review video and all he did was attack the game, said one good thing and attack again. But said nothing on how it could be better which a review is supposed to be, his was outrageous and i support the decision on gamespot to get rid of it. But im also glad gamespot is getting massive heat, as well i never liked the site, and find it heavily biased.
So! Just cause one person or a few find a game bad, doesn't mean everyone will. To some some games aren't good, to others is a gold mine. I saw his review video and all he did was attack the game, said one good thing and attack again. But said nothing on how it could be better which a review is supposed to be, his was outrageous and i support the decision on gamespot to get rid of it. But im also glad gamespot is getting massive heat, as well i never liked the site, and find it heavily biased.
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by ArcaneView - 2007-12-04 |
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» Pro Gaming and Weigh In
ESPN shows the MLG face-offs and commentates it. So to some people (maybe only the Xbox owners) competitive gaming is more than just a casual match of Halo 3 with a *****y 14 year old. Sure, you have to "master" a game to get considered but it's not ANYTHING like winning the lottery, it's more like trying to enter a beauty pageant (allow me to explain). An ex-girlfriend was telling me that beauty contests are all about attitude, skill, intellect, sponsorship, and networking. So in gaming, if you have a professional attitude, you know the glitches in the game and exploit them to your benefit, you're very smart with your strategies, you get sponsored with a local gaming company or MLG sponsor, and you get the word out that you're good you'll get a chance to play and win. It's not a dream, it's a reality. Maybe not everyone's reality since we would rather have the comfort of a 9 to 5 job wearing corporate casual but to determined gamers, there is money to be made.
About this journalist finally, my weigh in is - Opinions are valued by anyone who represents the market but when you work for a company that needs advertisement dollars to succeed since subscription sales are down, your opinion matters but you should probably get it approved first. Every good company has "checks and balances" so who approved of his review in the tone it was during Eidos month? Eidos hasn't made a great game in years (IMO) so the fact they have to pay a website (mind you, magazines are rarely tainted with such deceit) to get a good review is, well, politically correct I guess.... I mean, don't president candadites pay a lot of money to get good press?
I personally thought Kane and Lynch sucked and based on the 30+ copies used at my local GameStop, I'm not the only one (nor was he)...
I end this post with a question for you - If the industry depends on reviewer's honest opinions of a game to determine if we should buy it or if it wasn't worth playing, going forward, will you believe a review score without actually playing it or watching it be played (via gametrailers.com) first???
ESPN shows the MLG face-offs and commentates it. So to some people (maybe only the Xbox owners) competitive gaming is more than just a casual match of Halo 3 with a *****y 14 year old. Sure, you have to "master" a game to get considered but it's not ANYTHING like winning the lottery, it's more like trying to enter a beauty pageant (allow me to explain). An ex-girlfriend was telling me that beauty contests are all about attitude, skill, intellect, sponsorship, and networking. So in gaming, if you have a professional attitude, you know the glitches in the game and exploit them to your benefit, you're very smart with your strategies, you get sponsored with a local gaming company or MLG sponsor, and you get the word out that you're good you'll get a chance to play and win. It's not a dream, it's a reality. Maybe not everyone's reality since we would rather have the comfort of a 9 to 5 job wearing corporate casual but to determined gamers, there is money to be made.
About this journalist finally, my weigh in is - Opinions are valued by anyone who represents the market but when you work for a company that needs advertisement dollars to succeed since subscription sales are down, your opinion matters but you should probably get it approved first. Every good company has "checks and balances" so who approved of his review in the tone it was during Eidos month? Eidos hasn't made a great game in years (IMO) so the fact they have to pay a website (mind you, magazines are rarely tainted with such deceit) to get a good review is, well, politically correct I guess.... I mean, don't president candadites pay a lot of money to get good press?
I personally thought Kane and Lynch sucked and based on the 30+ copies used at my local GameStop, I'm not the only one (nor was he)...
I end this post with a question for you - If the industry depends on reviewer's honest opinions of a game to determine if we should buy it or if it wasn't worth playing, going forward, will you believe a review score without actually playing it or watching it be played (via gametrailers.com) first???
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by Kingofdaberbz - 2007-12-04 |
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» wow
he got fired cuz he didn't want to give a crappy game a good score just cuz advertisers paid em he was being i watched & read the review 7 he played and beat the game n he didn't like it cuz it sucked 1/10
he got fired cuz he didn't want to give a crappy game a good score just cuz advertisers paid em he was being i watched & read the review 7 he played and beat the game n he didn't like it cuz it sucked 1/10
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by damonous - 2007-12-04 |
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» Not a crappy game
I happen to like Kane & Lynch quite a bit. It's especially fun in Co-op mode, and when you get to play as Lynch there is a whole new outlook on the tasks given you. Personally, I think Jeff G.'s video review was really lame. The ironic part is that I'll bet the firing had less to do with the sponsor & Gamespot, and more to do with the fact that he said the F-word (yes, it was bleeped; but it was still obvious). K & L has several interesting plot mechanics, and really makes you feel like you're in an R-rated movie. ...Which was the point, I believe. For Jeff to assail the game relentlessly for how "ugly" it is, and not point out the fact that the INTENT of the makers of the game was obviously to depict the type of "ugly" characters major motion picture are having us root for every day .....is just ugly.
I happen to like Kane & Lynch quite a bit. It's especially fun in Co-op mode, and when you get to play as Lynch there is a whole new outlook on the tasks given you. Personally, I think Jeff G.'s video review was really lame. The ironic part is that I'll bet the firing had less to do with the sponsor & Gamespot, and more to do with the fact that he said the F-word (yes, it was bleeped; but it was still obvious). K & L has several interesting plot mechanics, and really makes you feel like you're in an R-rated movie. ...Which was the point, I believe. For Jeff to assail the game relentlessly for how "ugly" it is, and not point out the fact that the INTENT of the makers of the game was obviously to depict the type of "ugly" characters major motion picture are having us root for every day .....is just ugly.
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by Daedalus13 - 2007-12-05 |
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» If you want to boycott gamespot
check out www.boycottgamespot.com
check out www.boycottgamespot.com
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