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by Jake (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Sure why not.
The game is going to be astounding. The more people laying it, the better, the better. It would be to bad if the audience was severly limited just because there aren't that many ps3s out there.
The game is going to be astounding. The more people laying it, the better, the better. It would be to bad if the audience was severly limited just because there aren't that many ps3s out there.
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Re: ahahh (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» aahhahaah
UMMMMMMMMMM
PS3 is horrible. The graphics are too. I sold mine to Gamestop. And, I've never played Metal Gear Solid period. So I'm guessing this game is lame as well.
UMMMMMMMMMM
PS3 is horrible. The graphics are too. I sold mine to Gamestop. And, I've never played Metal Gear Solid period. So I'm guessing this game is lame as well.
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Re: anonamoose - 2006-12-17 |
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» MGS Trailer
I believe it was the very first trailer for mgs4. At the end they were claiming that Sony's cell processor is the key to winning the next-gen war. I Dont think that Kojima Productions will be defecting any time soon.
I believe it was the very first trailer for mgs4. At the end they were claiming that Sony's cell processor is the key to winning the next-gen war. I Dont think that Kojima Productions will be defecting any time soon.
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by f (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» cool
if this happens i might not get a ps3. yay
if this happens i might not get a ps3. yay
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Re: Snakeeater (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» MGS4
If this happens Sony will suck big time in my eyes. They better do something about it. Pay Konami a lot of money just to prevent that from happening. I mean, whatīs the meaning of buying a PS3 if Metal *****ing Gear Solid is released on Xbox 360 a month later?!!?! First Capcom wants to release Resident Evil 5 on the Xbox and now this... That said I donīt believe that will happen. Wonīt suprise me if someone from Microsoft started that rumor.
If this happens Sony will suck big time in my eyes. They better do something about it. Pay Konami a lot of money just to prevent that from happening. I mean, whatīs the meaning of buying a PS3 if Metal *****ing Gear Solid is released on Xbox 360 a month later?!!?! First Capcom wants to release Resident Evil 5 on the Xbox and now this... That said I donīt believe that will happen. Wonīt suprise me if someone from Microsoft started that rumor.
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Re: Count Blah (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Oh no
If that happens that means people with no ps3 can play it. Gasp i am horrified this hurts me so much.
If that happens that means people with no ps3 can play it. Gasp i am horrified this hurts me so much.
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Re: xche78x - 2006-12-18 |
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» hey f
you should get a ps3 just to play mgs4.
the rumor above has been posted many times by envious xbox 360 owners that doesn't want to buy a ps3.
metal gear solid 4 will be exclusive to sony playstation 3. and if ever they will release it on xbox 360 or pc, it will be ages after the ps3 launch.
i own a nice pc, x360 + ps3, ill be able to play it whatever console it comes out.but lets face the truth. its an exclusive for sony.
the gta4 franchise is another thing because sony's hold on rockstar is not as hard as it is on konami's.
you should get a ps3 just to play mgs4.
the rumor above has been posted many times by envious xbox 360 owners that doesn't want to buy a ps3.
metal gear solid 4 will be exclusive to sony playstation 3. and if ever they will release it on xbox 360 or pc, it will be ages after the ps3 launch.
i own a nice pc, x360 + ps3, ill be able to play it whatever console it comes out.but lets face the truth. its an exclusive for sony.
the gta4 franchise is another thing because sony's hold on rockstar is not as hard as it is on konami's.
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Re: MoNaRky (Unregistered) - 2006-12-26 |
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» Don't believe the hype!
A recent poll around the world asked PS2 owners if they planned to upgrade to the PS3 eventually. Over 62% replied yes they would definitely be buying a PS3. PS2's installed base has growen to 110 million worldwide, so over 67 million (at this point) will eventually upgrade to the PS3. That alone could make Sony's PS3-Peat a reality in a very short time! So dude, don't be a fool cuz in 5 years X360 will be as forgotten as the Xbox! Buy a PS3 for your future!
A recent poll around the world asked PS2 owners if they planned to upgrade to the PS3 eventually. Over 62% replied yes they would definitely be buying a PS3. PS2's installed base has growen to 110 million worldwide, so over 67 million (at this point) will eventually upgrade to the PS3. That alone could make Sony's PS3-Peat a reality in a very short time! So dude, don't be a fool cuz in 5 years X360 will be as forgotten as the Xbox! Buy a PS3 for your future!
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by AWESOME (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» YEAH
I wanna have Killzone, too YEEEHAW :D
I wanna have Killzone, too YEEEHAW :D
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Re: BishBosh (Unregistered) - 2006-12-22 |
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» Damn right
YEEEEEHAH to that!!
YEEEEEHAH to that!!
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by BullS**t (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» BS
this Rumor is not true,some itches trying to make new rumors out of UNRELIABLE,NO NAME websites. called noooz.com
but who cares...
ITS NOT TRUE,by the time the MGS is released(late 2007 or early 2008),we're allready having MORE PS3 consoles available on the market.
this rumor is completely BS
anyways..
the chances of metal gear solid 4 coming to xbox360 is 0.0000001% have fun waiting hahah.
and plus i dont think a DVD would fit the game.
this Rumor is not true,some itches trying to make new rumors out of UNRELIABLE,NO NAME websites. called noooz.com
but who cares...
ITS NOT TRUE,by the time the MGS is released(late 2007 or early 2008),we're allready having MORE PS3 consoles available on the market.
this rumor is completely BS
anyways..
the chances of metal gear solid 4 coming to xbox360 is 0.0000001% have fun waiting hahah.
and plus i dont think a DVD would fit the game.
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Re: darkdreamr (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» .
right.. just like the chances that the other metal gears would go to the original Xbox,.. oh and how about GTA?
and Resident evil 4 to PS2 ....
its gonna happen. it has been proven that nothing really is very exclusive anymore and that pretty much is the same for this series.
it may not be out a month later.. but dont doubt that this company is faithful to just sony.. cause they arent.
right.. just like the chances that the other metal gears would go to the original Xbox,.. oh and how about GTA?
and Resident evil 4 to PS2 ....
its gonna happen. it has been proven that nothing really is very exclusive anymore and that pretty much is the same for this series.
it may not be out a month later.. but dont doubt that this company is faithful to just sony.. cause they arent.
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Re: BishBosh (Unregistered) - 2006-12-22 |
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» Really?
Why not eh? VF5 is coming to 360, someone else reported that Res Evil 5 is coming to 360.
Sony's arrogance is finally biting them in the but.
Maybe cause the PS2 was sooooooo successful, they felt they didn't have to try so hard to make sure titles were PS3 exclusives.
It's good these games come out on multiple systems, I'm showing no favoritisms, even though I have a PS3.
Why not eh? VF5 is coming to 360, someone else reported that Res Evil 5 is coming to 360.
Sony's arrogance is finally biting them in the but.
Maybe cause the PS2 was sooooooo successful, they felt they didn't have to try so hard to make sure titles were PS3 exclusives.
It's good these games come out on multiple systems, I'm showing no favoritisms, even though I have a PS3.
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by Yeah wht he said (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» GOD DAMN MOTHERFKKERS
like the poster above
dont believe such useless bull*****
Programming for MGS4 has been done for several months now only on ps3 dev kits and with more and more work being done it would be harder to port to any other console
QJ YOU SUCK FOR SPREADING LIES AMONG YOUR FORUMS
Kojima would never go over to Microsoft
and there aren't enpguh ps3 by the end of 2007 ???
AHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA YOU BICHTES THERE WILL BE MORE THAN 10 MILLIONS SOLD
like the poster above
dont believe such useless bull*****
Programming for MGS4 has been done for several months now only on ps3 dev kits and with more and more work being done it would be harder to port to any other console
QJ YOU SUCK FOR SPREADING LIES AMONG YOUR FORUMS
Kojima would never go over to Microsoft
and there aren't enpguh ps3 by the end of 2007 ???
AHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA YOU BICHTES THERE WILL BE MORE THAN 10 MILLIONS SOLD
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Re: Testa (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» lol
you DO know that mgs 2 was on the xbox also. right?
you DO know that mgs 2 was on the xbox also. right?
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» eh
You can say but Xbox has MGS2: substince
but then you can also turn around and say, but MGS3 has been only on PS2
I know your just saying he's dumb for saying no MGS has ever been on a microsoft system (indirectly though), but I don't want anyone thinking that's grounds to make this rumor even semi-truthful.
You can say but Xbox has MGS2: substince
but then you can also turn around and say, but MGS3 has been only on PS2
I know your just saying he's dumb for saying no MGS has ever been on a microsoft system (indirectly though), but I don't want anyone thinking that's grounds to make this rumor even semi-truthful.
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by gg (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ..
FAKE
FAKE
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by stud (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Just like Assians creed was a rumour
Well all i can say it that mgs 4 would fit on a dvd as ms us compression unlike sony who say its bigger so it must be better..
Well either way i wont be buying mgs 4 as i never like any of them games.
either way poor old sony with there umds woops i mean blu ray ...
Well all i can say it that mgs 4 would fit on a dvd as ms us compression unlike sony who say its bigger so it must be better..
Well either way i wont be buying mgs 4 as i never like any of them games.
either way poor old sony with there umds woops i mean blu ray ...
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Re: daaz (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» uth
so if bigger isnt bettert, i suppose there was no need for dvds, as cds were more than enough??
Think Before you talk
also, hasnt this been debunked about 9milliom times?
so if bigger isnt bettert, i suppose there was no need for dvds, as cds were more than enough??
Think Before you talk
also, hasnt this been debunked about 9milliom times?
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Re: Figboy - 2006-12-17 |
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» the difference...
the difference concerning Assassin's Creed is that Ubisoft has practically never created an exclusive title.
Kojima has said that the Metal Gear Solid series was birthed on the Playstation, and that he views the series as a Playstation series, and he'd much rather like to make something different for the other two consoles. something taylored specifically for that console, instead of shoehorning in a port of a Playstation game.
leave it to QJ to find some unsubstantiated bs and post it on their site to get hits.
they don't even quote the guy, who is so obviously full of it that it's laughable.
i don't doubt the MGS series *could* become multiplatform, but that's only if the PS3 doesn't sell a few million units next year. which we know, the system will sell out whenever units are actually on store shelves.
the production issues concerning blu ray diodes are resolved. by next year, even more so.
you guys seriously need to stop believing everything goddamned thing you read off of the internet. seriously.
the difference concerning Assassin's Creed is that Ubisoft has practically never created an exclusive title.
Kojima has said that the Metal Gear Solid series was birthed on the Playstation, and that he views the series as a Playstation series, and he'd much rather like to make something different for the other two consoles. something taylored specifically for that console, instead of shoehorning in a port of a Playstation game.
leave it to QJ to find some unsubstantiated bs and post it on their site to get hits.
they don't even quote the guy, who is so obviously full of it that it's laughable.
i don't doubt the MGS series *could* become multiplatform, but that's only if the PS3 doesn't sell a few million units next year. which we know, the system will sell out whenever units are actually on store shelves.
the production issues concerning blu ray diodes are resolved. by next year, even more so.
you guys seriously need to stop believing everything goddamned thing you read off of the internet. seriously.
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» totally right figboy
I couldn't have said it any better myself.
I couldn't have said it any better myself.
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by myth (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» this funning!!!
360 fan's want this game so much but it s not coming out on 360!!!!! its going to stay a ps3 excluive kojima said only for ps3, sony said only ps3, back in e3 05, kojima said it will be only for ps3, and pulse why would they downgrade the game to put it on 360,it can't run on 360, sorry mgs4 will remain a ps3 game only, and halo will stay on 360,.
360 fan's want this game so much but it s not coming out on 360!!!!! its going to stay a ps3 excluive kojima said only for ps3, sony said only ps3, back in e3 05, kojima said it will be only for ps3, and pulse why would they downgrade the game to put it on 360,it can't run on 360, sorry mgs4 will remain a ps3 game only, and halo will stay on 360,.
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Re: myth (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» f you stud!!!
compression ,yeah and after that, whats next,your en *****, Assiassn's creed was never a ps3 excluvie, mg4 is, kojima said so, sony said so, you think that sony is ging to give away their main title's ,even its not a sony game, sony still needs it, i hate when people post artcles like this on the ps3 page, you guys always doubt the ps3, and its main tile's.
compression ,yeah and after that, whats next,your en *****, Assiassn's creed was never a ps3 excluvie, mg4 is, kojima said so, sony said so, you think that sony is ging to give away their main title's ,even its not a sony game, sony still needs it, i hate when people post artcles like this on the ps3 page, you guys always doubt the ps3, and its main tile's.
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Re: Regime2008 - 2006-12-17 |
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» ummm myth....
it wasnt posted ONLY on the ps3 site u ass......its ALSO on the 360....and it wud fit into more of a 360 post....because it is focused on comming to it...if it does...
it wasnt posted ONLY on the ps3 site u ass......its ALSO on the 360....and it wud fit into more of a 360 post....because it is focused on comming to it...if it does...
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by dave (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» p;d
wasn't this rumor denied already. Kojima said there are stuff they cant put in th 360, like the sixaxis motion stuff. This is old.Sister site Xbox 360 Fanboy and Xboxic have been following the story. Turns out that Che Chou, who is identified as an ex-1UP staffer says, "It's simply a rumor that Konami higher-ups are pressuring Kojima Productions to consider making MGS4 a multiplatform game because production costs on the game are unsurprisingly high and only getting higher ... Whatever the case, I highly doubt it's going to happen so quit building yourself a disappointing kiloton bomb."
We've contacted Konami's PR department and they said, "Metal Gear 4 [sic] is a PS3 title." Doesn't seem like EGM made a deal to get some exclusive info, but instead took a rumor, slapped a question mark on it, and hoped to build hype and sell magazines. Hey, we don't fault them, check out our headline above! Maybe the info is worth the price of the magazine? The rest of the cover info is snore inducing and has already been covered to death. The Halo 3 info was already leaked, but EGM says no, no, wait -- we have more info not leaked, please buy us.
wasn't this rumor denied already. Kojima said there are stuff they cant put in th 360, like the sixaxis motion stuff. This is old.Sister site Xbox 360 Fanboy and Xboxic have been following the story. Turns out that Che Chou, who is identified as an ex-1UP staffer says, "It's simply a rumor that Konami higher-ups are pressuring Kojima Productions to consider making MGS4 a multiplatform game because production costs on the game are unsurprisingly high and only getting higher ... Whatever the case, I highly doubt it's going to happen so quit building yourself a disappointing kiloton bomb."
We've contacted Konami's PR department and they said, "Metal Gear 4 [sic] is a PS3 title." Doesn't seem like EGM made a deal to get some exclusive info, but instead took a rumor, slapped a question mark on it, and hoped to build hype and sell magazines. Hey, we don't fault them, check out our headline above! Maybe the info is worth the price of the magazine? The rest of the cover info is snore inducing and has already been covered to death. The Halo 3 info was already leaked, but EGM says no, no, wait -- we have more info not leaked, please buy us.
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Re: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Well that's funny, because Greg Richards over at PR corporate says that Metal Gear 4 will begin development for X360 in the coming months.
Well that's funny, because Greg Richards over at PR corporate says that Metal Gear 4 will begin development for X360 in the coming months.
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Re: HG99 (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Correct
Kojima himself in his own blog stated that MGS4 can't be put on the 360 nor the Wii as the MGS4 is only possible w/ the power of the Playstation 3. He said that if there is going to be a MGS for the 360 or the Wii, he said it's going to be a spinoff and such.
Kojima himself in his own blog stated that MGS4 can't be put on the 360 nor the Wii as the MGS4 is only possible w/ the power of the Playstation 3. He said that if there is going to be a MGS for the 360 or the Wii, he said it's going to be a spinoff and such.
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Re: Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» incorrect
Kojima said it probably wouldn't come to the XBOX 360 because the processors are very different, not because the PS3 is more powerful. Didn't you hear, the XBOX 360 has a more powerful and versatile processor anyway. It will come to the XBOX 360 because there aren't enough PS3s around to make much of a profit. With it coming to XBOX 360, it will have up over 10 million perspective buyers vs. like 1 million.
Kojima said it probably wouldn't come to the XBOX 360 because the processors are very different, not because the PS3 is more powerful. Didn't you hear, the XBOX 360 has a more powerful and versatile processor anyway. It will come to the XBOX 360 because there aren't enough PS3s around to make much of a profit. With it coming to XBOX 360, it will have up over 10 million perspective buyers vs. like 1 million.
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Re: Regime2008 - 2006-12-17 |
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» lol
u mean 10 million vs. a few thousand....cuz most ppl RESOLD the ps3....instead of keepin da piece of *****
u mean 10 million vs. a few thousand....cuz most ppl RESOLD the ps3....instead of keepin da piece of *****
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Re: these ppl are dumb (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» PS3
um the cell is WAY more powerful than the 360's processors and so is is GPU. also by the time MGS4 comes out there will prolly be more PS3s out there than 360s. Also just because they resold doesn't mean they disappeared you idiot.
um the cell is WAY more powerful than the 360's processors and so is is GPU. also by the time MGS4 comes out there will prolly be more PS3s out there than 360s. Also just because they resold doesn't mean they disappeared you idiot.
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» numbers
You people are really making ridiculous numbers up. There will be more than 1 million PS3s in the US by the time MGS4 comes out. That's garunteed unless all their factories explode... multiple times. Also you mention people selling theirs on ebay. Do you understand people buy them on ebay so it's not as though those PS3 are in some limbo never to be played. They are making their ways to homes to be played.
Honestly stop making up these figures that are just down right wrong. Kojima has more influence than any game developer out there really atm and if he wants PS3 only... that's what he'll get.
You people are really making ridiculous numbers up. There will be more than 1 million PS3s in the US by the time MGS4 comes out. That's garunteed unless all their factories explode... multiple times. Also you mention people selling theirs on ebay. Do you understand people buy them on ebay so it's not as though those PS3 are in some limbo never to be played. They are making their ways to homes to be played.
Honestly stop making up these figures that are just down right wrong. Kojima has more influence than any game developer out there really atm and if he wants PS3 only... that's what he'll get.
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by David (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» PS3 FANBOYS STFU!!
GOd damm your all annyoing BUU HUU!!! cry me a river and build me a wall alll you guys due is ***** ***** ***** F*** if you know its not true then just a laught at it
GOd damm your all annyoing BUU HUU!!! cry me a river and build me a wall alll you guys due is ***** ***** ***** F*** if you know its not true then just a laught at it
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Re: Spooks (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» 360 FANBOYS STFU
How about you 360 fanboys stfu? It's a baseless rumour that's been denied by sony and by Kojima himself.
How about you 360 fanboys stfu? It's a baseless rumour that's been denied by sony and by Kojima himself.
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Re: Testa (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» WII FANBOYS STFU(lol)
how bout the 360 fanboys AND the ps3 fanboys stfu, how come people who own Wiis actually respect the other consoles. ps3 owners always bash the 360 for being less powerful. define powerful my friend, for they both have different attributes. the ps3 can handle more things on screen, while the 360 is more into the graphics.
you see me bashing anyone? no, and all of a sudden a RUMOR pops up and now you have to defend your console, making the others look inferior just so you can feel better about your choice. S.T.F.U
how bout the 360 fanboys AND the ps3 fanboys stfu, how come people who own Wiis actually respect the other consoles. ps3 owners always bash the 360 for being less powerful. define powerful my friend, for they both have different attributes. the ps3 can handle more things on screen, while the 360 is more into the graphics.
you see me bashing anyone? no, and all of a sudden a RUMOR pops up and now you have to defend your console, making the others look inferior just so you can feel better about your choice. S.T.F.U
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by Harblurger (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Erh...
This is OLD rumor which was brought back by noooz (wtf is that site?). It started with 1up podcast a long time ago. Also, this was pretty much "killed" too.
This is OLD rumor which was brought back by noooz (wtf is that site?). It started with 1up podcast a long time ago. Also, this was pretty much "killed" too.
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by alex (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» hmm..
i saw this coming.... i think metal gear deserves the most audience avaliable...
i saw this coming.... i think metal gear deserves the most audience avaliable...
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by Alienious - 2006-12-17 |
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» not good..
ok i have the psone,ps2, and will have the Ps3 in the future.
If this ever happens , then its just unfair.. since how microsoft already have Gears of War,lost odessy, and other exclusives.
It would just be greedy for 360 fans.
If this does happen im glad i stopped playing mgs at mgs2 sons of liberty.. after that i havent played any other metal gears because i knew something like this would happen to gaming.
ok i have the psone,ps2, and will have the Ps3 in the future.
If this ever happens , then its just unfair.. since how microsoft already have Gears of War,lost odessy, and other exclusives.
It would just be greedy for 360 fans.
If this does happen im glad i stopped playing mgs at mgs2 sons of liberty.. after that i havent played any other metal gears because i knew something like this would happen to gaming.
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Re: Regime2008 - 2006-12-17 |
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» lol u an ass
first of all, its GOOD to have more exclusives, not only does that mean more diverse games n all, but it gives a stronger side to 360, ontop of that, it has better architecture
first of all, its GOOD to have more exclusives, not only does that mean more diverse games n all, but it gives a stronger side to 360, ontop of that, it has better architecture
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Re: ContrAss - 2006-12-17 |
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» correct dude
I completely agree. From everyone%u2019s perspective it's that MGS is expensive so it has to go on 2 consoles. Yet nobody ever wondered what about Alan Wake which was multiplatform or Bioshock which was multiplatform. You telling me Microsoft did the right thing buying out these games so the devs having a larger install base? puh.
I completely agree. From everyone%u2019s perspective it's that MGS is expensive so it has to go on 2 consoles. Yet nobody ever wondered what about Alan Wake which was multiplatform or Bioshock which was multiplatform. You telling me Microsoft did the right thing buying out these games so the devs having a larger install base? puh.
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by stud (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Real muture myth
Well i know its hard for some people to understand but its call compression.
Its just so funny to see all the sony fanbios get so upset to a rumour...
Well i know its hard for some people to understand but its call compression.
Its just so funny to see all the sony fanbios get so upset to a rumour...
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by Jake (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» dvd point good one.
Didn't think of that. The necessity of chopping the game up the work on multiple dvds would mean that the port would take alot of effort. That considered, the detail abot the game coming a month after makes the whole thing reek of BS.
Didn't think of that. The necessity of chopping the game up the work on multiple dvds would mean that the port would take alot of effort. That considered, the detail abot the game coming a month after makes the whole thing reek of BS.
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Re: q (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» wtf
It will fit on one dvd with compression, I garuntee it. considering all the cut scenes will be in-game and mgs3 only took up 3gb, there is no reason why this should take another 6gb. if oblivion takes only 5gb then this should only be 4 or 5.
It will fit on one dvd with compression, I garuntee it. considering all the cut scenes will be in-game and mgs3 only took up 3gb, there is no reason why this should take another 6gb. if oblivion takes only 5gb then this should only be 4 or 5.
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Re: Broken_Hero (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Compression consumes processing Power.
they cannot compress it.
compressing it means that the Xbox 360 processor will have to uncompress the data on real time....which will take a lot of the processing power....
MGS4 is a game that is enginered to work with the PS3 CEll....meaning it utilizes very high calculations and processing....the Xbox360 is alredy inferior in that field compared to the Cell.....and uncompressing the data in-realtime will make it even more inferior
so technically.....it can only happen with heavy sacrifices
they cannot compress it.
compressing it means that the Xbox 360 processor will have to uncompress the data on real time....which will take a lot of the processing power....
MGS4 is a game that is enginered to work with the PS3 CEll....meaning it utilizes very high calculations and processing....the Xbox360 is alredy inferior in that field compared to the Cell.....and uncompressing the data in-realtime will make it even more inferior
so technically.....it can only happen with heavy sacrifices
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» Metal Gears Of War
This game will easily perform well on the 360 as well as the PS3. Any game can be ported. Call of Duty 3 is on the Wii. Come on people, wake up and think before you post such bullshhhh.
Broken Hero, wake up dude! Every game is compressed, even Resistance has compression. Your are all just dumb if you think the 360 can't handle this game.
I know you PS3 fanboys love this game, but have some brains and stop spinning such bullshhh.
If this game comes to the 360, so what does it matter to you? If you have a PS3, play it on a PS3. If you have a 360, play it on a 360.
You little kids need to grow up.
This game will easily perform well on the 360 as well as the PS3. Any game can be ported. Call of Duty 3 is on the Wii. Come on people, wake up and think before you post such bullshhhh.
Broken Hero, wake up dude! Every game is compressed, even Resistance has compression. Your are all just dumb if you think the 360 can't handle this game.
I know you PS3 fanboys love this game, but have some brains and stop spinning such bullshhh.
If this game comes to the 360, so what does it matter to you? If you have a PS3, play it on a PS3. If you have a 360, play it on a 360.
You little kids need to grow up.
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Re: rd261 (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ^^^
Would you like halo 3 and gears to go to the ps3. Its not fanboyism its just that I wouldnt like to see mgs4 on the 360 nor halo on the ps3. Its just unnatural.
Would you like halo 3 and gears to go to the ps3. Its not fanboyism its just that I wouldnt like to see mgs4 on the 360 nor halo on the ps3. Its just unnatural.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» they can compress it
The xbox 360 decompresses data onto (it's 512 Megabyte of ram) from the dvd disk during load times, no matter how much storage you have on a disk wether it's 8 gigs or 50 gigs you play the game bit by bit through RAM. Both the playstation 3 and the xbox 360 has 512 mb of ram.
The xbox 360 decompresses data onto (it's 512 Megabyte of ram) from the dvd disk during load times, no matter how much storage you have on a disk wether it's 8 gigs or 50 gigs you play the game bit by bit through RAM. Both the playstation 3 and the xbox 360 has 512 mb of ram.
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Re: wake up (Unregistered) - 2006-12-27 |
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» 512 Ram
The PS3 has 512 MB of SHARED Ram. 256 is dedicated to the cell and 256 is used by the GPU.
The PS3 has 512 MB of SHARED Ram. 256 is dedicated to the cell and 256 is used by the GPU.
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by Jake (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» re: "muture"
You can be sure that all ps3 games use the best possible compression methods. It has to do with the performance of streaming from a disc. Go look it up.
You can be sure that all ps3 games use the best possible compression methods. It has to do with the performance of streaming from a disc. Go look it up.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» no
no they don't xbox 360 games do, bluray disk has a large capacity so ps3 games don't need to use compression.
no they don't xbox 360 games do, bluray disk has a large capacity so ps3 games don't need to use compression.
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by Broken_Hero (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» An interesting way to flame the war..
well.....it seems most of our beloved Xbox360 Fans wants MGS4.
it is Understandable......since its more original...[gameplay wise]..than anything they had in more than one year time.
unfortunartely...it will not happen.....at least not before a year of the PS3 launch...
Hideo Kojima clearly said more Than once in many Interviews...That having Sony win with The PS3 is important to The Industry.....And that the PS3 is the right direction in which the Industry is headed.
Basicly.....he means that Sony is A company that invests and make new technology...like Blu-ray..and Cell proccesor technology...and apply them to the industry in Affordable price..[500$]
on the other Hands....competitor Microsoft offered A system that exactly resembles the XBoxone....with a better graphic card....absolutely no innovation or investment in technology...which you can clearly observe with the cost of the xbox360....[which is a mere (360$) and retails for 400$]....compare that to the PS3...which cost a whoopin 820$...and retails for as low as 500$
Talk about a Bargain.
well.....it seems most of our beloved Xbox360 Fans wants MGS4.
it is Understandable......since its more original...[gameplay wise]..than anything they had in more than one year time.
unfortunartely...it will not happen.....at least not before a year of the PS3 launch...
Hideo Kojima clearly said more Than once in many Interviews...That having Sony win with The PS3 is important to The Industry.....And that the PS3 is the right direction in which the Industry is headed.
Basicly.....he means that Sony is A company that invests and make new technology...like Blu-ray..and Cell proccesor technology...and apply them to the industry in Affordable price..[500$]
on the other Hands....competitor Microsoft offered A system that exactly resembles the XBoxone....with a better graphic card....absolutely no innovation or investment in technology...which you can clearly observe with the cost of the xbox360....[which is a mere (360$) and retails for 400$]....compare that to the PS3...which cost a whoopin 820$...and retails for as low as 500$
Talk about a Bargain.
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Re: q (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» wtf
Exactly how is it original at all? I am not say the first MGS wasn't but MGS4? Get over it, its a sequel with a few gameplay changes and additions just like all sequels. As far as originality goes, how about the following games:
Kameo
Dead Rising
Viva Pinata
Rockstars Table Tennis
Outpost Kaloki X
Condemned
Cloning Clyde
Prey
Hexic
RoboBlitz
Just Cause
TotemBall
Oblivion
Assault Heroes
Gears of War
Blue Dragon
Comming 07:
Metronome
BioShock
Mass Effect
Trusty Bell
Lost Planet
Army of Two
Possesion
The Darkness
Dark Sector
Huxley
Alan Wake
Assasins Creed
Those are just a few of many. (I realize they are not all exclusive)
Exactly how is it original at all? I am not say the first MGS wasn't but MGS4? Get over it, its a sequel with a few gameplay changes and additions just like all sequels. As far as originality goes, how about the following games:
Kameo
Dead Rising
Viva Pinata
Rockstars Table Tennis
Outpost Kaloki X
Condemned
Cloning Clyde
Prey
Hexic
RoboBlitz
Just Cause
TotemBall
Oblivion
Assault Heroes
Gears of War
Blue Dragon
Comming 07:
Metronome
BioShock
Mass Effect
Trusty Bell
Lost Planet
Army of Two
Possesion
The Darkness
Dark Sector
Huxley
Alan Wake
Assasins Creed
Those are just a few of many. (I realize they are not all exclusive)
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Re: rd261 (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ^^^
Dude get over it 80% of those games are shooters, and that is not original at all. If the 360 had a greater variety, like the xbox did which I still have, I would had bought the 360 a long time ago.
Dude get over it 80% of those games are shooters, and that is not original at all. If the 360 had a greater variety, like the xbox did which I still have, I would had bought the 360 a long time ago.
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Re: q (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» wtf
80%? did you even read the list?
80%? did you even read the list?
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Re: sudds (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» rd261....
rd261 please.... show me that the ps3 has more original games out I dont think so... Blue Dragon sold more copys than zelda in japan... so stop *****ing about innovation when the ps3 doesnt have a better game line up... you dont like this prove me wrong but dont be a ***** in the process I hate it when people make fools out of themselves
rd261 please.... show me that the ps3 has more original games out I dont think so... Blue Dragon sold more copys than zelda in japan... so stop *****ing about innovation when the ps3 doesnt have a better game line up... you dont like this prove me wrong but dont be a ***** in the process I hate it when people make fools out of themselves
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Re: Regime2008 - 2006-12-17 |
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» Broken hero ur *****ing stupid as *****
first off all....360 wit NO innovation....but it is the FIRST thing EVER to have a unified shader vid card....compare that to ps3's outdatted rsx vid card
first off all....360 wit NO innovation....but it is the FIRST thing EVER to have a unified shader vid card....compare that to ps3's outdatted rsx vid card
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» lol
He includes both bad games, cross platform games, and shooters, how is this list of games worth anything. Also many of those that are considered good are shooters. Many of them aren't considered special at all.
He includes both bad games, cross platform games, and shooters, how is this list of games worth anything. Also many of those that are considered good are shooters. Many of them aren't considered special at all.
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Re: HAHA (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» HAHA
Alan Wake NOT COMING OUT NO MORE
Alan Wake NOT COMING OUT NO MORE
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by radsy (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» sucked in ps3 fanboys
you ps3 fanboys make me laugh. trying to make sense
on how its "impossible to come to xbox360" " no! this
cant be true!!!!". you bunch crack me up. "It cant fit on
the 360" (blue dragon was 3 discs 20gig un-rared).
and when it comes to 360 it will look and play better
than the ps3 version(compare on both systems call of
dut 3, john madden , fight night 3 etc.......)
hey dave exclusive six-axis ps3 controller.....who gives a
****** , i will take rumble over 100-axis of gimmickery.
I was smiling reading this whole article saying in my
mind SUCKED IN!!!!!!!! PS3 IS GETTING OWNED AND
BOUGHT.
ps3 = no more exclusives. ha ha ha.
you ps3 fanboys make me laugh. trying to make sense
on how its "impossible to come to xbox360" " no! this
cant be true!!!!". you bunch crack me up. "It cant fit on
the 360" (blue dragon was 3 discs 20gig un-rared).
and when it comes to 360 it will look and play better
than the ps3 version(compare on both systems call of
dut 3, john madden , fight night 3 etc.......)
hey dave exclusive six-axis ps3 controller.....who gives a
****** , i will take rumble over 100-axis of gimmickery.
I was smiling reading this whole article saying in my
mind SUCKED IN!!!!!!!! PS3 IS GETTING OWNED AND
BOUGHT.
ps3 = no more exclusives. ha ha ha.
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Re: Spooks (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» PS3 Owned? Try something else.
The PS3 is not getting owned.
Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise.
Learn English, then come back and structure your argument a bit more competently.
The PS3 is not getting owned.
Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise.
Learn English, then come back and structure your argument a bit more competently.
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Re: Regime2008 - 2006-12-17 |
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» GO RADSY! boo spooks
ur a downright ***** spooks....ps3 gettin owned already......gta4, assassins creed n mayb this too?!?! watch how ps3 becomes betamax all over again
ur a downright ***** spooks....ps3 gettin owned already......gta4, assassins creed n mayb this too?!?! watch how ps3 becomes betamax all over again
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» Regime tisk tisk
PS3 is not getting owned already. Also you name two games that PS3 has lost exclusives too and have become cross platform... how about you take a look at all the games PS3 still has exclusive too.
Also the betamax comparison is just the worst you could possibly make because what each technology is trying to do hardly is alike. Please stop making this bad comments.
PS3 is not getting owned already. Also you name two games that PS3 has lost exclusives too and have become cross platform... how about you take a look at all the games PS3 still has exclusive too.
Also the betamax comparison is just the worst you could possibly make because what each technology is trying to do hardly is alike. Please stop making this bad comments.
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by CeCiL (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Load of crap
MGS4 won't appear on 360...
With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio... what possible 360 version would have that?... NONE! period... i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period.
This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original.
As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end.
MGS4 won't appear on 360...
With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio... what possible 360 version would have that?... NONE! period... i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period.
This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original.
As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end.
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Re: Devise (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Your full of crap
SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, WTF???
"With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio"
What are you going to use SIXAXIS for in this game? This game is better off using analog sticks.
"i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period."
Why did you have to lie to justify your point? You don't own a 360.
"This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original."
The 360 has a better GPU and maybe better than the PS3 version in some areas, but others PS3 maybe better. Developers have already said both systems have their strong points.
"As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end."
Well it's going to be on the Playstation numb nuts! How does it affect you if it's on the 360 also?
SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, WTF???
"With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio"
What are you going to use SIXAXIS for in this game? This game is better off using analog sticks.
"i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period."
Why did you have to lie to justify your point? You don't own a 360.
"This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original."
The 360 has a better GPU and maybe better than the PS3 version in some areas, but others PS3 maybe better. Developers have already said both systems have their strong points.
"As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end."
Well it's going to be on the Playstation numb nuts! How does it affect you if it's on the 360 also?
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» it's been said
It's already been said that MGS4 will be using the SIXAXIS so yes it would be hard to make the game for 360 because of this because knowing Kojima there will definately be some great uses for the controller.
Also this is like reading a lvl 9 still on the BS rumor scale (out of 10).
It's already been said that MGS4 will be using the SIXAXIS so yes it would be hard to make the game for 360 because of this because knowing Kojima there will definately be some great uses for the controller.
Also this is like reading a lvl 9 still on the BS rumor scale (out of 10).
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Even
Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise. WRONG, the only thing the basic ps3 has on the premium xbox 360 is blu-ray which does not apply to games, the basic playstation 3 does not have wi-fi or the slots for the sd cards or memory sticks, and CeCiL the cell is nothing special, in fact the Xbox 360s cpu has the same technology as the playstation 3 cpu Ibm is the making the cpus for both systems the cell arcithecture is patented by sony not the technology and the 3 cpus in the xbox 360 combined is 3 times faster than the cell cpu in the playstation 3.
Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise. WRONG, the only thing the basic ps3 has on the premium xbox 360 is blu-ray which does not apply to games, the basic playstation 3 does not have wi-fi or the slots for the sd cards or memory sticks, and CeCiL the cell is nothing special, in fact the Xbox 360s cpu has the same technology as the playstation 3 cpu Ibm is the making the cpus for both systems the cell arcithecture is patented by sony not the technology and the 3 cpus in the xbox 360 combined is 3 times faster than the cell cpu in the playstation 3.
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» not completely true
You seem to just kind of pass over many of the other features the PS3 has besides blu-ray, which does infact apply to games since all PS3 games are made on BD.
Also you talk about wifi when neither of the 360s have it, so that goes to show you wifi is not needed in anyway (it's upgradable anyway).
Those card slots are hardly worth the price you can find a usb multiple card reader for around $20 online, so that's another featuer that I don't care about not having on my 20gig.
Also I'd like you to know that the fastest computer in the world which is being built right now is using cell processors. So it's nothing to take lightly.
The 20gig model is in fact a great idea for anyone looking to buy a PS3 who doesn't need wifi right away. Since the HDD is upgradable along with wifi.
You seem to just kind of pass over many of the other features the PS3 has besides blu-ray, which does infact apply to games since all PS3 games are made on BD.
Also you talk about wifi when neither of the 360s have it, so that goes to show you wifi is not needed in anyway (it's upgradable anyway).
Those card slots are hardly worth the price you can find a usb multiple card reader for around $20 online, so that's another featuer that I don't care about not having on my 20gig.
Also I'd like you to know that the fastest computer in the world which is being built right now is using cell processors. So it's nothing to take lightly.
The 20gig model is in fact a great idea for anyone looking to buy a PS3 who doesn't need wifi right away. Since the HDD is upgradable along with wifi.
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by RADSY (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» FUNNY
IT IS DAMN FUNNY TO READ HOW MANY SONY FANBOYS
IN THE 360 SECTION.....HMM.. GUESS THEY ARE ALREADY
BORED OF THE PS3 NEWS AND GAMES, MAYBE BECAUSE
THERE IS NO NEWUPDATES OR NEWS OR NEWGAMES.
SONY FAN BOYS I PITTY YOU PEOPLE , LET ME HELP YOU
OUT.........."ITS TIME TO GET A 360 AND LEAVE YOUR
OLD GIRLFRIEND".
YOU TALK ABOUT KOJIMA, AS IF HE IS YOUR CLOSEST FRIEND OR SOMETHING.YOU CANT EVEN SPEAK OR UNDERSTAND HIS LANGUAGE, HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT YOU HE NEEDS TO MAKE "MONEY". GET A BLOODY LIFE !
IT IS DAMN FUNNY TO READ HOW MANY SONY FANBOYS
IN THE 360 SECTION.....HMM.. GUESS THEY ARE ALREADY
BORED OF THE PS3 NEWS AND GAMES, MAYBE BECAUSE
THERE IS NO NEWUPDATES OR NEWS OR NEWGAMES.
SONY FAN BOYS I PITTY YOU PEOPLE , LET ME HELP YOU
OUT.........."ITS TIME TO GET A 360 AND LEAVE YOUR
OLD GIRLFRIEND".
YOU TALK ABOUT KOJIMA, AS IF HE IS YOUR CLOSEST FRIEND OR SOMETHING.YOU CANT EVEN SPEAK OR UNDERSTAND HIS LANGUAGE, HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT YOU HE NEEDS TO MAKE "MONEY". GET A BLOODY LIFE !
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Re: CeCiL (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» .... your an idiot..
It's posted on the PS3 QJ aswell u immature knob-jockey.
What i don't understand is how fanboys can call fanboys, a fanboy...??
You prove how stupid you really are.
It's posted on the PS3 QJ aswell u immature knob-jockey.
What i don't understand is how fanboys can call fanboys, a fanboy...??
You prove how stupid you really are.
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Re: Jerico G. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2006-12-17 |
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» cecil from Tao?
are you Cecil from TAO?
are you Cecil from TAO?
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Re: OneTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Oh the irony CeCiL
"your an idiot.."
Calling someone an idiot and yet showing yourself to be one at the same time. Classic. :D
In case you still don't understand, it's YOU'RE not YOUR.
"your an idiot.."
Calling someone an idiot and yet showing yourself to be one at the same time. Classic. :D
In case you still don't understand, it's YOU'RE not YOUR.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» well
well said RADSY
well said RADSY
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by radsy (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» CeCil sense????
buddy sense is natural and you have none of it????
fanboy ,fanboys ,fanboyism what the **** are talking
about. And what contribution have you made to this
story? absolutely zero. think before typing would be a
start...........................fanboy.........................................
buddy sense is natural and you have none of it????
fanboy ,fanboys ,fanboyism what the **** are talking
about. And what contribution have you made to this
story? absolutely zero. think before typing would be a
start...........................fanboy.........................................
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by Broken_Hero (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Warning Alert......Devise Is Back..
ugh......well....
I just Hope that Mr.Common Sense Doesnt show Up Also...i cant waste time correcting the Fasle information that they are Going to Spread.
Well.....if you consider Call of Duty 3 On Wii Is a satifying Port Compared to the other 2.....then you will probably be satisfied with MGS4 on The Xbox360...if it happens.
The Idea is not that MGS4 cant be ported.....the idea is that it will be [Inferior].....but if you like Cod3 on Wii....you,l be just fine.
P.S:i hope [spector]shows up.....cant stay here forever....oh well. :D
ugh......well....
I just Hope that Mr.Common Sense Doesnt show Up Also...i cant waste time correcting the Fasle information that they are Going to Spread.
Well.....if you consider Call of Duty 3 On Wii Is a satifying Port Compared to the other 2.....then you will probably be satisfied with MGS4 on The Xbox360...if it happens.
The Idea is not that MGS4 cant be ported.....the idea is that it will be [Inferior].....but if you like Cod3 on Wii....you,l be just fine.
P.S:i hope [spector]shows up.....cant stay here forever....oh well. :D
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Re: Devise (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Yes back again - Someone needs to straight you out
Obviously you still think the gaming side of the PS3 is way more advanced than the 360, I and hundreds of thousands of people disagree. Developers have already confirmed they are about even, both have their strong points and weak points. The 360 is ahead at the moment because of the difficultly developing to the cell processor.
The point i was getting at with the Call of Duty 3 example was that any game can be ported. Especially between the PS3 and 360, the systems are very close in terms of graphics and power, so ports between the 2 systems will always be close in comparison. There is already quite a few cross platform games between the 360 and PS3 that perform about the same. 360 is winning the cross platform war at the moment though but nothing to cry about if you a PS3 owner.
Saying that this can't be ported to the 360 is just plain false. You have been corrected :)
I'm sure spector is too busy watching his BlueRay movie(s) to backup your false statements.
Obviously you still think the gaming side of the PS3 is way more advanced than the 360, I and hundreds of thousands of people disagree. Developers have already confirmed they are about even, both have their strong points and weak points. The 360 is ahead at the moment because of the difficultly developing to the cell processor.
The point i was getting at with the Call of Duty 3 example was that any game can be ported. Especially between the PS3 and 360, the systems are very close in terms of graphics and power, so ports between the 2 systems will always be close in comparison. There is already quite a few cross platform games between the 360 and PS3 that perform about the same. 360 is winning the cross platform war at the moment though but nothing to cry about if you a PS3 owner.
Saying that this can't be ported to the 360 is just plain false. You have been corrected :)
I'm sure spector is too busy watching his BlueRay movie(s) to backup your false statements.
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Re: Spector - 2006-12-17 |
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» woah cheap shot
Between my work, PS3, Wii, DS, and PSP I've had almost no time to visit here (Castlevania, Trauma Center, Resistance, Portable Ops).
Those crossplatform games are just about the worst comparison you can make though when it comes to system graphics. Like I've said before CoD3 on PS3 looks bad (in comparison) yet Resistance looks so good.
Between my work, PS3, Wii, DS, and PSP I've had almost no time to visit here (Castlevania, Trauma Center, Resistance, Portable Ops).
Those crossplatform games are just about the worst comparison you can make though when it comes to system graphics. Like I've said before CoD3 on PS3 looks bad (in comparison) yet Resistance looks so good.
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by Asura (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» I'll be danmed!
Hell NO!!! This franchise have been supported by Sony fan all this years and it would be a foul if konami quits the exclusive from sony. After all if it wasn't for Sony the franchise wouldn't be in the position it have rigth now.
Hell NO!!! This franchise have been supported by Sony fan all this years and it would be a foul if konami quits the exclusive from sony. After all if it wasn't for Sony the franchise wouldn't be in the position it have rigth now.
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Re: darkdreamr (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» .
like i said.. any SMART buisness will do it. they did it with previous mg titles. hell even gamecube got one. this company many release it as a exclusive title as first.. but dont doubt they venture onto another system once they drain the initial $ from consumers pockets.. they will just release MGS4 - Subsistance for 360.. with more features .. and claim that its a different game and therefore wasnt ment to be exclusive
like i said.. any SMART buisness will do it. they did it with previous mg titles. hell even gamecube got one. this company many release it as a exclusive title as first.. but dont doubt they venture onto another system once they drain the initial $ from consumers pockets.. they will just release MGS4 - Subsistance for 360.. with more features .. and claim that its a different game and therefore wasnt ment to be exclusive
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by rolly poly (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» EXCLUSIVES SUCK!
all exclusives are bad for gamers. you cannot deny it, if you try you are only lying to your self.
they force you to buy another console if you want to play, how is that good?
gamers and publishers would be better off with out them, more games for us and more money for them.
the only people that love exclusives are hardware makers and idiot fanboys who need an excuse to buy their system of choice.
do i wish halo1 and 2 were on ps2, gc and xbox? ***** yeah! it would of saved alot of people the cost of buying an xbox, and allowed so many more people to enjoy the game.
the wii is the only system that has an excuse to have exclusives, since the games are designed around motion sensing. it'd be like porting wario ware touched to the psp...
all exclusives are bad for gamers. you cannot deny it, if you try you are only lying to your self.
they force you to buy another console if you want to play, how is that good?
gamers and publishers would be better off with out them, more games for us and more money for them.
the only people that love exclusives are hardware makers and idiot fanboys who need an excuse to buy their system of choice.
do i wish halo1 and 2 were on ps2, gc and xbox? ***** yeah! it would of saved alot of people the cost of buying an xbox, and allowed so many more people to enjoy the game.
the wii is the only system that has an excuse to have exclusives, since the games are designed around motion sensing. it'd be like porting wario ware touched to the psp...
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by Cloud (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Power
I have read all the sites comparisons between XBOX 360 and Ps3 and it looks like the X360 and Ps3 will almost be graphically the same but the X360 has more memory horsepower making games run smooth but the Ps3 games will suffer from slowdown, choppiness and poor framerate. This is great news for MGS4 and now we know who the new King of gaming machines is (besides Nintendo) - I see this pattern with all developers realizing the potential of moving to the X360! Good times are here again!!
I have read all the sites comparisons between XBOX 360 and Ps3 and it looks like the X360 and Ps3 will almost be graphically the same but the X360 has more memory horsepower making games run smooth but the Ps3 games will suffer from slowdown, choppiness and poor framerate. This is great news for MGS4 and now we know who the new King of gaming machines is (besides Nintendo) - I see this pattern with all developers realizing the potential of moving to the X360! Good times are here again!!
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Re: hehe (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ^^^
Dude even the psp has sold more units than the 360 and both of them were released like 8 months between each other, and lets not talk about the ds and ps2. So yeah the 360 is the king.
Dude even the psp has sold more units than the 360 and both of them were released like 8 months between each other, and lets not talk about the ds and ps2. So yeah the 360 is the king.
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Re: kevin (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» ps3 interception
why do you keep comming up with that crap about the weak60 being equal to the ps3, wake up and smell r3ality its way 360 is so last gen let me ask you something do you know the ps3 is a supercomputer i bet not but weak60 is nothing more than a 2005 pc thats it yes you may be right on your little paper it may seem to such medicore computer minds that the weak60 is equal to the ps3 but the real tech people will tell you the same just as in e3 05 ps3 will only be equal to weak60 if you have weak60(2)+something else also did you know weak60 has already been maxed out, well it has with gears of war i really feel sorry for you that believe the graphics on the weak60 will even increase over gears of war it won't and i have proof number 1 why isn't microsoft making a second gears of war, i'll tell you why there would be little or no difference in the graphics, oh an one more thing why in the world do you think that sony would make a system only equivalent to the weak60 think the japanese have always been smarter than the americans now think these are geniouses and sony and toshiba and nividia have been working on this genious invention for what 6 years think geniouses working on one piece of technology for six years better yet japanese geniouses before the developers really learn the way sony intended for this genious supercomputer to work the developers will have to begin thinking like geniouses you still are saying the graphic chip isn't as powerful as weak60 we will see because there is alot more that meets the eye than just the specs of the sony ps3 think sony purposely downgraded the cell processor that was originally 3.8 ghz i believe down to 3.2 ghz just to prove how much advanced there minds are than that of microsoft but you still don't get the reason that this ps3 doesn't have a graphical limit when the developers really begin to figure out the way that sony's genious minds constructed this supercomputer there will be an increasing gap in the graphics of ps3 and weak60 you can count on it and one more reason that the ps3 has already left 360 in the dust is that while you may say 360 has the best graphical game not quite there are launch games that are on the ps3 that are only possible on the ps3 infact all of them, and one more bumber do you know that guerilla games is already working on killzone 2 now you may say many games haven't delivered yeah you may be right but they arent even scratching the power of the ps3 yet but lets reinerate the killzone 2 thingy guerilla games thereselves have stated that some aspects of killzone 2 has already surpassed the trailer and they won't show it again until it exceeds the players expectations saying that only means that this man knows that the ps3 is capable of graphics that will even make a jump past the killzone 2 trailer bet your life and just to let you know that the ps3 is capable of the game and more at the e3 05 gameshow the games weren't real time but, they were to ps3 spec, wait and at the time it was only a prototype graphic chip not the fully powered rsx for those of you that really believe that the weak60's graphic chip is superior, if at that time the incomplete graphic chip was able to yield graphics at that level running at only 70% of the ps3 power who knows what other graphics this supercomputer is capable of delivering, also do you not know that a supercomputer is what makes movies like finding nemo, and shark tale and even those as lifelike as the newest final fantasy movie now back to the reason that the weak60 is maxed out reason 2 why did bill gates say that the weak60 was built for gears of war and reason 3 the makers of gears of war were native to microsoft yes microsoft studios and who better to know microsofts hardware than microsoft itself and also look how long they have been working on gears of war about 2003-2004 in all acounts the game outta look alot better than that but its alright reason 4 why was this game released right around the launch of the ps3 because they knew at the start of the ps3's life cycle many developers wouldn't kno
why do you keep comming up with that crap about the weak60 being equal to the ps3, wake up and smell r3ality its way 360 is so last gen let me ask you something do you know the ps3 is a supercomputer i bet not but weak60 is nothing more than a 2005 pc thats it yes you may be right on your little paper it may seem to such medicore computer minds that the weak60 is equal to the ps3 but the real tech people will tell you the same just as in e3 05 ps3 will only be equal to weak60 if you have weak60(2)+something else also did you know weak60 has already been maxed out, well it has with gears of war i really feel sorry for you that believe the graphics on the weak60 will even increase over gears of war it won't and i have proof number 1 why isn't microsoft making a second gears of war, i'll tell you why there would be little or no difference in the graphics, oh an one more thing why in the world do you think that sony would make a system only equivalent to the weak60 think the japanese have always been smarter than the americans now think these are geniouses and sony and toshiba and nividia have been working on this genious invention for what 6 years think geniouses working on one piece of technology for six years better yet japanese geniouses before the developers really learn the way sony intended for this genious supercomputer to work the developers will have to begin thinking like geniouses you still are saying the graphic chip isn't as powerful as weak60 we will see because there is alot more that meets the eye than just the specs of the sony ps3 think sony purposely downgraded the cell processor that was originally 3.8 ghz i believe down to 3.2 ghz just to prove how much advanced there minds are than that of microsoft but you still don't get the reason that this ps3 doesn't have a graphical limit when the developers really begin to figure out the way that sony's genious minds constructed this supercomputer there will be an increasing gap in the graphics of ps3 and weak60 you can count on it and one more reason that the ps3 has already left 360 in the dust is that while you may say 360 has the best graphical game not quite there are launch games that are on the ps3 that are only possible on the ps3 infact all of them, and one more bumber do you know that guerilla games is already working on killzone 2 now you may say many games haven't delivered yeah you may be right but they arent even scratching the power of the ps3 yet but lets reinerate the killzone 2 thingy guerilla games thereselves have stated that some aspects of killzone 2 has already surpassed the trailer and they won't show it again until it exceeds the players expectations saying that only means that this man knows that the ps3 is capable of graphics that will even make a jump past the killzone 2 trailer bet your life and just to let you know that the ps3 is capable of the game and more at the e3 05 gameshow the games weren't real time but, they were to ps3 spec, wait and at the time it was only a prototype graphic chip not the fully powered rsx for those of you that really believe that the weak60's graphic chip is superior, if at that time the incomplete graphic chip was able to yield graphics at that level running at only 70% of the ps3 power who knows what other graphics this supercomputer is capable of delivering, also do you not know that a supercomputer is what makes movies like finding nemo, and shark tale and even those as lifelike as the newest final fantasy movie now back to the reason that the weak60 is maxed out reason 2 why did bill gates say that the weak60 was built for gears of war and reason 3 the makers of gears of war were native to microsoft yes microsoft studios and who better to know microsofts hardware than microsoft itself and also look how long they have been working on gears of war about 2003-2004 in all acounts the game outta look alot better than that but its alright reason 4 why was this game released right around the launch of the ps3 because they knew at the start of the ps3's life cycle many developers wouldn't kno
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Re: Bozworth - 2006-12-17 |
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» for kevin
wow kevin when you try to talk about smart people and try to make yourself sound like one with a long post, at least learn to spell the word genius. You certainly are not one of them. Where are your stats that japanese people are smarter and that is why the ps3 is better? How stupid and racist are you? Plus you said that microsoft is not making another Gears of War because they already maxed out the 360? Again facts, it has already been stated by epic that gears is in fact a trilogy for sure and possibly more. On top of that, for you to think that developers have already tapped all of the power of the 360 this early is rediculous. They said the same about the ps2 early in it life with some of its games but somehow they kept finding more and better ways to improve. Please at least post credible fanboy crap.
wow kevin when you try to talk about smart people and try to make yourself sound like one with a long post, at least learn to spell the word genius. You certainly are not one of them. Where are your stats that japanese people are smarter and that is why the ps3 is better? How stupid and racist are you? Plus you said that microsoft is not making another Gears of War because they already maxed out the 360? Again facts, it has already been stated by epic that gears is in fact a trilogy for sure and possibly more. On top of that, for you to think that developers have already tapped all of the power of the 360 this early is rediculous. They said the same about the ps2 early in it life with some of its games but somehow they kept finding more and better ways to improve. Please at least post credible fanboy crap.
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Re: WOW worst post ever (Unregistered) - 2006-12-27 |
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» KEVIN please STFU
I don't think you said one thing that was correct in that entire 2,000 word pile of crap you just posted. "Do you know the PS3 is a supercomputer" ROFL !!! It is idiots like you that make Sony what it is today.
I don't think you said one thing that was correct in that entire 2,000 word pile of crap you just posted. "Do you know the PS3 is a supercomputer" ROFL !!! It is idiots like you that make Sony what it is today.
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Re: Matt (Unregistered) - 2007-01-01 |
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» No
Come on, Kevin, you make Playstation users look bad. Wall of worthless text crits me for 500 damage.
Come on, Kevin, you make Playstation users look bad. Wall of worthless text crits me for 500 damage.
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by Razgoull (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» I have one thing to say...
Xbox 360 fanboy really likes utopies.
PS3 have already outsold X360 in japan. When Xbox360 fanboys read that they said they don't care about japan. And now if MGS4 come to X360 (impossible...but) they care. They are lots more chance that MGS come to the Wii then X360.
In 2007 they will have 50/50 (close) ps3 and x360 on the market. Credit to halo 3. For sure MGS4 will remain exclusive for PS3. If and only if it come to x360 it's will be one or two year later. When the game will be old.
Xbox 360 fanboy really likes utopies.
PS3 have already outsold X360 in japan. When Xbox360 fanboys read that they said they don't care about japan. And now if MGS4 come to X360 (impossible...but) they care. They are lots more chance that MGS come to the Wii then X360.
In 2007 they will have 50/50 (close) ps3 and x360 on the market. Credit to halo 3. For sure MGS4 will remain exclusive for PS3. If and only if it come to x360 it's will be one or two year later. When the game will be old.
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by Sandman (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Not even worth posting
If you would do some research QJ before posting an article you would see that the poster of that crap is an avid Sony basher. There is NO, i repeat, NO bases for believing this guys whatsoever, especially with his supposed deep background sources. -.-
If you would do some research QJ before posting an article you would see that the poster of that crap is an avid Sony basher. There is NO, i repeat, NO bases for believing this guys whatsoever, especially with his supposed deep background sources. -.-
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by OneTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» This is one rumour which just won't go away...
I keep reading these sort of insider remarks about MGS4 for the 360 which leads me to believe that it is becoming more likely to be true.
Recently, we had this from !Up's 360 vs PS3 comparison;
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7661195&publicUserId=4561231
(change the plus characters (+) to the equals character in the link above if necessary)
"And yes, we all know the PS3 is really a powerhouse and that there are games coming next year that wouldn't be possible on the 360. I guarantee you this, when GTA comes out on both consoles next fall, the PS3 version is going to look significantly better. You'll see. And when Metal Gear Solid 4 finally comes out on the 360 (it will, I know this - oh, and don't act surprised, MGS2 was on Xbox 1 eventually too), it won't look quite as good as the PS3 version."
I don't agree with his idea that the PS3 will look significantly better (he's still holding on to the promise made at E3 2005), but he does seem certain that he KNOWS Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.
IMO, the evidence is mounting for MGS4 on 360, and if it is announced, will anyone *really* be surprised?
I keep reading these sort of insider remarks about MGS4 for the 360 which leads me to believe that it is becoming more likely to be true.
Recently, we had this from !Up's 360 vs PS3 comparison;
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7661195&publicUserId=4561231
(change the plus characters (+) to the equals character in the link above if necessary)
"And yes, we all know the PS3 is really a powerhouse and that there are games coming next year that wouldn't be possible on the 360. I guarantee you this, when GTA comes out on both consoles next fall, the PS3 version is going to look significantly better. You'll see. And when Metal Gear Solid 4 finally comes out on the 360 (it will, I know this - oh, and don't act surprised, MGS2 was on Xbox 1 eventually too), it won't look quite as good as the PS3 version."
I don't agree with his idea that the PS3 will look significantly better (he's still holding on to the promise made at E3 2005), but he does seem certain that he KNOWS Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.
IMO, the evidence is mounting for MGS4 on 360, and if it is announced, will anyone *really* be surprised?
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by COMPRESSION BULLS**T (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» shyt
yeah yeah compression BS
M$ said blu ray is not needed,while the new rpg games takes 3 DVDs,again i said THREE DVDs!!
if dev can compress then why BLUE DRAGON takes 3 DVDs??!!
stop jokin!!FANBOYS!
MGS4 is not coming to XBOX360.
because porting MGS2 to xbox and gamecube is a failure.so now kojima wont do porting.
and plus hideo said he doesnt like porting,if they wanna make games,they will make a new one.
yeah yeah compression BS
M$ said blu ray is not needed,while the new rpg games takes 3 DVDs,again i said THREE DVDs!!
if dev can compress then why BLUE DRAGON takes 3 DVDs??!!
stop jokin!!FANBOYS!
MGS4 is not coming to XBOX360.
because porting MGS2 to xbox and gamecube is a failure.so now kojima wont do porting.
and plus hideo said he doesnt like porting,if they wanna make games,they will make a new one.
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Re: OneTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Blue Dragon IS compressed
"M$ said blu ray is not needed,while the new rpg games takes 3 DVDs,again i said THREE DVDs!!"
Which proves BR wasn't needed! The game is over 30GB uncompressed, it didn't have to be squeezed into one DVD, it was compressed and put onto three. So why was BR needed except for the convenience of having the game all on one disk? If it was on BR, it would still be exactly the same game.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/747/747023p1.html
BTW, a number of RPGs for the PS2 last gen also came on multiple disks.
As for MGS4 on 360, we'll just have to wait and see, but listing our own reasons why YOU think it wouldn't happen doesn't make it any less likely to appear on the 360.
"M$ said blu ray is not needed,while the new rpg games takes 3 DVDs,again i said THREE DVDs!!"
Which proves BR wasn't needed! The game is over 30GB uncompressed, it didn't have to be squeezed into one DVD, it was compressed and put onto three. So why was BR needed except for the convenience of having the game all on one disk? If it was on BR, it would still be exactly the same game.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/747/747023p1.html
BTW, a number of RPGs for the PS2 last gen also came on multiple disks.
As for MGS4 on 360, we'll just have to wait and see, but listing our own reasons why YOU think it wouldn't happen doesn't make it any less likely to appear on the 360.
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Re: N35QU1K (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» No XBOX base in Japan
You also have to remember that the XBOX has very little fanbase in japan; for god sakes, the PS3 has already outsold the 360 over there. Being a Japanese developer, do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country?
You also have to remember that the XBOX has very little fanbase in japan; for god sakes, the PS3 has already outsold the 360 over there. Being a Japanese developer, do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country?
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Re: OneTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» MGS is more popular in the west.
"do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country"
Since when is Japan the only market? This game will sell MORE copies outside of Japan than in Japan.
"do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country"
Since when is Japan the only market? This game will sell MORE copies outside of Japan than in Japan.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Rpgs
japanese rpgs only because of fmv just like playstation one, metal gear does not use fmv, neither will gran theft auto 4, 360 pawns ps3 lol
japanese rpgs only because of fmv just like playstation one, metal gear does not use fmv, neither will gran theft auto 4, 360 pawns ps3 lol
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by Broken_Hero (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» PS3 VS Xbox360.....which has better ram Utilization..??
there has been some debate about the ram performance for Both....some say that the xbox360 has more available ram.....but is that true..???
Yes it is true....the xbox360 has about [24mb-30mb]more free available ram than ps3...BUT...
that do not mean...in the overall performance...will have better ram utilization and performance.
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the ps3 has a main advantage above xbox360....one that wont be evident until exclucive games with talented developers appear....that advantage is not just the fact that ps3 has XDR ram running at 3.2Ghz..[which will give it an incredible boost in performance]...but the also the advantage is....
the ability to stream[load] data [IN-GAME] from 2 different places....one is direct-loading from the disc....the other is loading from the HD..[notice the in-game word]
i am not talkin here loading from between-game events....like loading from menu to gameplay....or loading from one-level to another level.
i am talking about streaming data loading during gameplay.....like when you travel in GTA3..from one street to another...one is erased from the ram..then the other.....[in real-time] starts loading....so if you take the disc off...and try walking....youl see that the next area hasnt loaded yet.
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it is here that the ps3 will benefit....the developers...knowing that every ps3 has a hardisk...will be able to develope games that stream data from.[BOTH THE DISC AND HDD]....so that loading of the in-game segments i mentioned above would be greatly reduced....but what does that mean..??
it means that developers.....rather than distributing the 512ram on..say....128x128 size area....they can devide it into 2 64x64 areas....each taking 512ram....and since they have very fast loading through 2 different streams...you wont notice the loading....and thus...rather than using 512mb ram for 128x128....they can use it for 2 64x64 areas...doubling the performance.
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but how is that different from the xbox360..??..the xbox360 and because of the mistake microsoft made in [not including an hdd in every unit]....means that developers wont be able to develop games that utilize 2 data streams...and that means the xbox360 will have far longer loading in IN-GAME segments...so deviding areas to utilize ram will be much harder for them...since games will only use the disc for loading...[THEY-CANNOT-DEVELOP-GAMES-THAT-LOADS-DATA-FROM-THE-HDD-ALSO-BECAUSE-THAT-MEANS-CORE-SYSTEM-OWNERS-WONT-BE-ABLE-TO-PLAY IT]...
its important to know that there is a difference between developing a game to load from 2 different streams....and a game that uses the hdd to cache data as an option like oblivion in xbox360....[oblivion on xbox360 offered the option of caching data to the hdd to decrease the load time in between-game segments....like when entering a city or opening meny...etc.]....and that is different from developnig a game that uses 2 different streams to load IN-GAME segments.
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to make this short.....that means that developers on the ps3 will be able to have much better ram utilization by designing games that uses the hdd as another loading stream...and as a virtual ram.....notice that this will only be done on exclusive games....dont expect this to happen in multi-platform games.....because the xbox360 cannot utilize this multi-stream loading technique since it lacks an hdd on every unit....also the fact that the ps3 has a 3.2Ghz ram will erase any bottlenecks that may happen.
there has been some debate about the ram performance for Both....some say that the xbox360 has more available ram.....but is that true..???
Yes it is true....the xbox360 has about [24mb-30mb]more free available ram than ps3...BUT...
that do not mean...in the overall performance...will have better ram utilization and performance.
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the ps3 has a main advantage above xbox360....one that wont be evident until exclucive games with talented developers appear....that advantage is not just the fact that ps3 has XDR ram running at 3.2Ghz..[which will give it an incredible boost in performance]...but the also the advantage is....
the ability to stream[load] data [IN-GAME] from 2 different places....one is direct-loading from the disc....the other is loading from the HD..[notice the in-game word]
i am not talkin here loading from between-game events....like loading from menu to gameplay....or loading from one-level to another level.
i am talking about streaming data loading during gameplay.....like when you travel in GTA3..from one street to another...one is erased from the ram..then the other.....[in real-time] starts loading....so if you take the disc off...and try walking....youl see that the next area hasnt loaded yet.
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it is here that the ps3 will benefit....the developers...knowing that every ps3 has a hardisk...will be able to develope games that stream data from.[BOTH THE DISC AND HDD]....so that loading of the in-game segments i mentioned above would be greatly reduced....but what does that mean..??
it means that developers.....rather than distributing the 512ram on..say....128x128 size area....they can devide it into 2 64x64 areas....each taking 512ram....and since they have very fast loading through 2 different streams...you wont notice the loading....and thus...rather than using 512mb ram for 128x128....they can use it for 2 64x64 areas...doubling the performance.
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but how is that different from the xbox360..??..the xbox360 and because of the mistake microsoft made in [not including an hdd in every unit]....means that developers wont be able to develop games that utilize 2 data streams...and that means the xbox360 will have far longer loading in IN-GAME segments...so deviding areas to utilize ram will be much harder for them...since games will only use the disc for loading...[THEY-CANNOT-DEVELOP-GAMES-THAT-LOADS-DATA-FROM-THE-HDD-ALSO-BECAUSE-THAT-MEANS-CORE-SYSTEM-OWNERS-WONT-BE-ABLE-TO-PLAY IT]...
its important to know that there is a difference between developing a game to load from 2 different streams....and a game that uses the hdd to cache data as an option like oblivion in xbox360....[oblivion on xbox360 offered the option of caching data to the hdd to decrease the load time in between-game segments....like when entering a city or opening meny...etc.]....and that is different from developnig a game that uses 2 different streams to load IN-GAME segments.
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to make this short.....that means that developers on the ps3 will be able to have much better ram utilization by designing games that uses the hdd as another loading stream...and as a virtual ram.....notice that this will only be done on exclusive games....dont expect this to happen in multi-platform games.....because the xbox360 cannot utilize this multi-stream loading technique since it lacks an hdd on every unit....also the fact that the ps3 has a 3.2Ghz ram will erase any bottlenecks that may happen.
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Re: OneTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» And what has this got to do with MGS4 on the 360?
No really, what has your misinformed cut 'n paste post got to do with this topic?
No really, what has your misinformed cut 'n paste post got to do with this topic?
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Re: Broken_Hero (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Simply providing info...
it is off-topic.....but the MGS4 on Xbox360 isnt quite an interesting...so i posted something different.
the post above is a simple example on how devlopers...through certain developing techniques like the one multiple-data streaming technique i mentioned above....will greatly improve performance.
loading from hdd is far faster than disc loading....the xbox360 cannot compete with disc load alone...even though its dvd drive...is faster than the ps3 blu-ray drive.
its microsofts fault.....for not including an hdd in every unit.....now the best that developers can do is make a game that is engeniered to load from the disc only....and gives you an option to cash data to the hdd.[if you have the premium version]...thus only improving loading in Between-game segmets...[menu to game...level to another level..etc]
well....i wish i could help you..but..well....:D
P.S: you will see updates versions of the post above from time to time.....(and it wont be considered spamming)
it is off-topic.....but the MGS4 on Xbox360 isnt quite an interesting...so i posted something different.
the post above is a simple example on how devlopers...through certain developing techniques like the one multiple-data streaming technique i mentioned above....will greatly improve performance.
loading from hdd is far faster than disc loading....the xbox360 cannot compete with disc load alone...even though its dvd drive...is faster than the ps3 blu-ray drive.
its microsofts fault.....for not including an hdd in every unit.....now the best that developers can do is make a game that is engeniered to load from the disc only....and gives you an option to cash data to the hdd.[if you have the premium version]...thus only improving loading in Between-game segmets...[menu to game...level to another level..etc]
well....i wish i could help you..but..well....:D
P.S: you will see updates versions of the post above from time to time.....(and it wont be considered spamming)
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Re: gdgfdgd (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» fdgfdgdg
you have no idea what you are talking about
you have no idea what you are talking about
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Re: ONeTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» Except one problem.
How much data do you suggest they dump onto the HDD to benefit the games in the way you suggest? 8GB? 10GB?
Right now, numerous PS3 games offer the option to dump 4-5 GB of game data onto the HDD just to improve load times. But this more brings the load times in line with those seen on the 360.
There's always going to be a trade off, HDD space isn't infinite. Even for those PS3 games using the HDD to improve load time, gamers with the 20GB PS3 are going to find their HDD full after installing a few.
There's always going to be a trade off, Broken_Hero, the data has to be on the HDD taking up space, there's going to have to be a sufficient amount to offer any benefits, and it has to be copied onto the HDD sometime in advance. So I'm sorry to say that your HDD based gaming utopia just isn't going to happen.
Besides, do provide links from developers who believe the HDD will benefit their games in the way you describe and ARE using the HDD in this way, because in the end, THEY are the one's who know.
How much data do you suggest they dump onto the HDD to benefit the games in the way you suggest? 8GB? 10GB?
Right now, numerous PS3 games offer the option to dump 4-5 GB of game data onto the HDD just to improve load times. But this more brings the load times in line with those seen on the 360.
There's always going to be a trade off, HDD space isn't infinite. Even for those PS3 games using the HDD to improve load time, gamers with the 20GB PS3 are going to find their HDD full after installing a few.
There's always going to be a trade off, Broken_Hero, the data has to be on the HDD taking up space, there's going to have to be a sufficient amount to offer any benefits, and it has to be copied onto the HDD sometime in advance. So I'm sorry to say that your HDD based gaming utopia just isn't going to happen.
Besides, do provide links from developers who believe the HDD will benefit their games in the way you describe and ARE using the HDD in this way, because in the end, THEY are the one's who know.
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Re: Mr Toasty - 2006-12-17 |
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» hmmm
"There's always going to be a trade off, Broken_Hero, the data has to be on the HDD taking up space, there's going to have to be a sufficient amount to offer any benefits, and it has to be copied onto the HDD sometime in advance. So I'm sorry to say that your HDD based gaming utopia just isn't going to happen."
Well the tradeoff doesnt seem too bad to me. For example to save space the game could delete its copied data at poweroff. But if the data is saved there permanently, it only needs to be loaded once and edited sparingly.
"There's always going to be a trade off, Broken_Hero, the data has to be on the HDD taking up space, there's going to have to be a sufficient amount to offer any benefits, and it has to be copied onto the HDD sometime in advance. So I'm sorry to say that your HDD based gaming utopia just isn't going to happen."
Well the tradeoff doesnt seem too bad to me. For example to save space the game could delete its copied data at poweroff. But if the data is saved there permanently, it only needs to be loaded once and edited sparingly.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2006-12-17 |
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» load times
longer load times did not stop playstation one from pawning the competition the 360 pawns again sorry. lol
longer load times did not stop playstation one from pawning the competition the 360 pawns again sorry. lol
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Re: ONeTwoThree (Unregistered) - 2006-12-18 |
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» Not an option
>"Well the tradeoff doesnt seem too bad to me. For example to save space the game could delete its copied data at poweroff. But if the data is saved there permanently, it only needs to be loaded once and edited sparingly."
Do you know how long it takes to copy 4-5GB onto the HDD? Use your PC to view the contents of the one of your DVD movies and then copy all those files onto your HDD, that's about the time it will take. Therefore gamers will only ever want to do this once, and that's how it currently works on PS3 games! If games delete this data, then you'll have to go through the lenghty installation process all over again!
And let's consider the amount copied to the HDD. If less data is copied to the HDD, then you're not going to have enough to make a real difference to the load times. If you copy more data to the HDD, the load times improve, but you lose more space on your HDD.
Like I said, there's aways going to be a trade off.
>"Well the tradeoff doesnt seem too bad to me. For example to save space the game could delete its copied data at poweroff. But if the data is saved there permanently, it only needs to be loaded once and edited sparingly."
Do you know how long it takes to copy 4-5GB onto the HDD? Use your PC to view the contents of the one of your DVD movies and then copy all those files onto your HDD, that's about the time it will take. Therefore gamers will only ever want to do this once, and that's how it currently works on PS3 games! If games delete this data, then you'll have to go through the lenghty installation process all over again!
And let's consider the amount copied to the HDD. If less data is copied to the HDD, then you're not going to have enough to make a real difference to the load times. If you copy more data to the HDD, the load times improve, but you lose more space on your HDD.
Like I said, there's aways going to be a trade off.
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Re: Broken Hero is bad (Unregistered) - 2006-12-27 |
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» 2X Read Speed
You failed to mention you have a 2x BR Drive. LoL
You failed to mention you have a 2x BR Drive. LoL
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