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TOLD YA SO!!!
If it does come out for 360, it wont be in "a few months". This is a bull$hit rumor
Honestly because the xbot magazine says it's coming it makes it true? No matter who says it, it's a rumor until Konami announces such news.
MGS4 is never going to happen
They said exactly the same about MGS2 (I was on the forums at the time). And then, after the PS2 version was released, the so-called impossible happened, Konami announced MGS2 will be coming to the XBox, and it did.
And before you talk about sales, the XBox version didn't sell as well as the PS2 version because there were FAR fewer XBox consoles than PS2 consoles (and always has been).
Hence I think there are enough clues around to suggest that MGS4 on the 360 is very likely to happen, but it will not be announced until the PS3 version is released (or just before release).
Konami has been putting out a ton of software for 360 (mainly XBLA games) and can see that they sell and can make money.
They wont want to take away sony's steam, so they will keep it hush until after it's been released on PS3....then it will come to 360 6-12 months later....
of course it can come out on the xbox 360
konami cannot resist the temptation and the calls of xbox 360 fanboys. but saying few months is an understatement. first MGS4 a game created with the purpose of using each and every ounce of processing power the ps3 has therefore porting such game on the xbox 360 will pretty much create the game from the ground up except for the CG and some assets that can be used from the ps3 production. Few months will not be sufficient. 1 year maybe! and that is if kojima devotes a whole team for the port. but i guess kojima wont so its gonna be a small team from konami that will handle the port. hence longer dev time and standard will not be on par with the original ps3 version but of course will have some added eyecandy bonuses.
Why are you assuming the any port will start AFTER the release of the PS3 version? If Konami have plans for a 360 version, then work on it would have started already!
all this time all i hear from the xbots is that it doesn't matter because mgs4 is average is not that good. an now that "the usual" more rumors about it going to 360 u guys are going crazy u xbots are like females never know what u want
bull***** that it will happen. That Xbox magazine was just so sure like most Xbox fans that it would be announced at E3 because the magazine was already printed 3 weeks ago. And then when it wasn't announced they were like " crap now eveyone knows we just said that". I don't know why people keep saying it is happening. Do you really think it can fit on a DVD9 after it has always been developed for blu ray without any compromising in mind such as Gtaiv?
"Do you really think it can fit on a DVD9 "
Yes, on multiple disks. Why is that concept so difficult for some gamers to understand?
yea it does not matter if this come out for 360 because this game is gay anyways
i know a guy who is basically one of Kojima's Aussie go to guys when he makes those occasionally trips here... he says bull$hit to X360, Fanboy started hype thats all it is
If this was in this months issue, that probably means it was written before e3 where kojima said exclusive for ps3.
Plus, its another *****ing rumor.
Phil Harrison also reconfirmed that it was exclusive.
But yea, it is "old news" if it just came out in OXM.
I KNEW IT!! EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THE GAME WILL NOT PORT OVER TO SH1TBOX 360, AS A 360 FAN, I STILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT RUMORS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE!! I LOVE YOU BILL GATES!@!!! THANKS FOR MAKING US HAVE "HOPE" THAT THE BEST GAME EVER WILL PORT OVER TO OUR SHETTY SYSTEM! YAYYY!!!
PEOPLE THIS IS A *****ING RUMOR, *****ING SERIOUSLY..... HIDEO KOJIMA SAID THIS IS A PS3 EXCLUSIVE. EXCLUSIVE!!! THIS IS NOTHING BUT 360FANBOYS RUMORS FROM MICROSOFT. MY GOD PEOPLE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD "EXCLUSIVE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ps3 exclusive could mean timed exclusive
why are you so angry anyway if your so sure its exclusive, there were so many people like you back in the day ranting about assasin's creeds exclusiveness and look what happened there
dont worry > this is normal behaviour for PSTards.
PS3 fanboys are mainly imature kids
I love pissing off kids.
All movies go to DVD eventually.
at *****ty quality, yes
FACKKK ECKSBOTS
PS3 FTW, nuff said.
PS3 is a theater, and MGS4 will debute on it, after a few months, it will be on the 360, which he called a DVD player. So in actual terms, he confirmed it back then, just as new films come out in the theater, a few months later they are released on DVD for people to watch at home.
He was talking in terms of quality not place.
Anyway, it seems that it doesn't matter what Kojima
says anymore. lol 360 fantards are funny.
all i see are sony fantards
keep telling yourself that, maybe one day you'll believe that, till then keep ranting and hoping...
MGS for he PS3,
PS3 FTW
but I see you here.....and you're definitely a xbox *****boy...i mean fanboy.
THIS LIST IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
UPDATED: July 17 - E3 2007 UPDATE
Unreleased Games - 116 Titles
Afrika - LINK
Airtight PS3 Project [Untitled] - LINK
Angel Rings [Working Title] - LINK
Aqua Vita - LINK
Bacterius - LINK
Big Time Revenge - LINK
BioWare Project - LINK
Blast Factor: Advanced Research - LINK * * NEW * *
Brave Arms - LINK
Buu Buu Cocoreccho by Loco Roco - LINK LINK * * NEW * *
Castlevania PS3 - LINK
Chain Limit - LINK
Coded Arms Assault - LINK
Crytek Project - Crysis [Rumored] - LINK LINK
Danger Planet - LINK
DC Universe MMO - LINK
Disgaea 3 - LINK * * NEW * *
Dragon Age - EGM 5/2007 - Page 42
Dragon Ball Z [Untitled]
Dreamers - LINK
Driver PS3 - Driver 5 [Unofficial Title] - LINK
Dynasty Warriors 6 - LINK * * NEW * *
Echochrome - LINK * * NEW * *
Eight Days - LINK
Elefunk - LINK * * NEW * *
Ember - LINK
Everyday Shooter - LINK * * NEW * *
Eye Create - LINK
EyeDentify - LINK
Factor 5 Project #2 [Untitled] - LINK
Fantasy Lab Project [Untitled] - LINK
FIA World Touring Car Championship - LINK
Fifth Phantom Saga - LINK
Final Fantasy Versus XIII - LINK
Final Fantasy XIII - LINK
Folklore - LINK
Free Realms - LINK * * NEW * *
Fumito Ueda [Rumored Project 1] - LINK LINK
Fumito Ueda SOTC / ICO [Rumored Project 2] - LINK LINK
Fury - LINK
Game Arts Project - LINK
God of War III - LINK
Go! Sports Ski - LINK * * NEW * *
Grand Turismo 5 - LINK
Grand Turismo 5 Prologue - LINK * * NEW * *
Gretzky NHL [Working Title] - LINK
Haze (Timed Until 2008) - LINK * * NEW * *
Heavenly Sword - LINK Hero - LINK
High Velocity Bowling - LINK
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition - LINK * * NEW * *
Hot Shots Golf [Working TItle] - LINK
Housemarque Project - LINK
Infamous - LINK
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier [Rumored] - LINK
Killzone 2 - LINK * * NEW * *
Kingdom Hearts 3 [Rumored] - LINK
Kurayami AKA Darkness - LINK
Lair - LINK
L.A. Noire - LINK
LittleBigPlanet - LINK
Metal Gear Solid Online - LINK * * NEW * *
Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots - LINK
Metro 2033: The Last Refuge - LINK
Monster Hunter 3 - LINK
Monster Madness - LINK
MotorStorm 2 - LINK
Namco PS3 RPG - LINK
Namco PS3 Shooter - LINK
Namco PS3 Sports Project - LINK
NBA '08 - LINK * * NEW * *
NCSoft PS3 Project 1 - LINK * * NEW * *
NCSoft PS3 Project 2 - LINK * * NEW * *
NiOh - LINK
Nobi Nobi Boy - LINK * * NEW * *
Pain - LINK
PixelJunk Racers - LINK LINK
Project Psychic [Working Title] - LINK
Pterodon FPS Project [Untitled] - LINK
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction [Working Title] - LINK
Redwood Falls - LINK
Rengoku The End of the Century - LINK
Resistance 2 [Rumored, But Likely] - EGM 2/2007 - Page 77
Returning Alive [Working Title] - LINK
Rockstar Old West PS3 Project [Untitled] - LINK
Romance of the Three Kingdoms PS3 - LINK
Sam Suede: Undercover Exposure - LINK
Second - LINK
Secret Service - LINK
Shin Megami Tensei - LINK
Singstar [Working Title] - LINK
Skyblue - LINK
Snakeball - LINK
SOCOM: Confrontation - LINK
Starbreeze Next-Gen Project [Untitled] - LINK
Team Siren Project [Untitled] - LINK
Tecmo Action-Adventure [Untitled] - LINK LINK
Tekken 6 - LINK
thatgamecompany Project #2 [Untitled] - LINK
thatgamecompany Project #3 [Untitled] - LINK
The Agency - LINK * * NEW * *
The Eye of Judgment [Working Title] - LINK
The Getaway [Working Title] - LINK
Time Crisis 4 - LINK * * NEW * *
Toy Home - LINK * * NEW * *
Twelve Interactive Sci-Fi action game [Untitled]
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - LINK
Unknown Realms - LINK
Unreal Tournament 3 (Timed Until 2008) - LINK * * NEW * *
WarDevil Enigma - LINK
Warhawk - LINK
Way of the Samurai 3 - LINK
White Knight Story - LINK
Wipeout HD - LINK
Zipper Interactive PS3 Project [untitled] - LINK LINK
Zone of the Enders 3 - LINK
Released Games - 27 Titles
Blast Factor
Calling All Cars!
Cash Guns Chaos DLX
Flow
Formula One Championship Edition
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Genji: Days of the Blade
Go! Sudoku
Go! Puzzle
Gran Turismo HD
GripShift
Lemmings
MLB 07: The Sh
Nice list of games that no one other than a brainless sony tool would even remotely care about. When are you gonna make your list of cars that have two cup holders?
someone got bitten by the jealousy bug
No, as he says, it's a boring list of games.
I hate 'list' wars, whether it's for the 360 or PS3, because it's pointless and stupid, especially when so many of the games on such lists are likely to be average (or worse) anyway!
Why would I be jealous? I own a ps3 you dumbass!! And Im not excited about 99% of those games. OMG! Go Puzzle!? Are you serious!? Wow, Im gonna go preorder it right now!
...not...
Ur a dumbas5... So ur not excited for resistance 2, Killzone 2, Warhawk, Mgs4... n all the other 5hit?
Stop looking at the bad ones and get real...
Someone got bitten by the A$$hole bug
How many games on that list are vaporware?
How many games are unworthy of mention because they are so horrible?
How many are coming to the 360 anyway?
What do you have left?
A typical depressing PS3 game linup!
The only good PS3 game is MGS4, and it's coming to the 360. Give it up. The fight is over. Mindless insults will not save your last decent PS3 exclusive, fantards. They won't announce anything before the PS3 version is released, so don't expect them to. Sony is keeping them silent so they can try to get some more PS3 sales.
Well this year I plan on getting Uncharted, Ratchet + Clank, Haze, Warhawk, Madden and NBA Live, Heavenly Sword, GTA 4. Pain and some other psn titles look pretty good, so I don't think I'll have a problem finding good games. Of those Warhawk, Heavenly sword, ratchet + clank, and Uncharted will NOT be coming to the 360. What you guys don't understand is that I don't care what games Xbox has. I don't own one. I could care less if you get MGS4, I'll already be playing it
It's never going to happen. You heard it straight from Hideo Kojima a million times, the XBOX 360 is a DVD player, and he said himself that the XBOX 360 can't handle the game due to the fact it doesn't support Blu-Ray, and the disc capacity for Metal Gear Solid 4 is 50GB. Now tell me, how in hell is a 50GB game going to fit in a 9GB DVD? No way in hell. Also, Hideo Kojima controls what platform the title goes, not Konami.
its actualtly 39 gb
while Konaimi is the publisher and have a lot say, im sure that the game's exclusivity lies in Kojima's hands. If he really doesn't want it on the 360, it wont go there. I expect announcement from Konami/Kojima sometime soon.
mmm how about compression...?
ever heard of mass effect that games massive with far better graphics and thats gonna be on dvd. and if worst came to worst and they just got lazy they could put it on two discs so 1 time through the game i would have to move two meters forward and change the disc simple!
he does
the reason this game is 39 gb is they have
to repeat info 3 to 4 times because read speed
of blu ray is so slow
and your right sony has phucked the world
with its bastard child console
do you do any research at all? he stated he was trying to have the best and immersive sound which is where the 39 gb comes from. Tons of great quality and uncompressed sound. Also the bluray drive reads faster then a dvd drive at 2x and it stays at a constant data rate and doesnt jump around like a dvd drive so do your research then come back. *****kking idiot
blu ray 2x 9mbs ps3
dvd 12x 15.9 xbox360
" Also the bluray drive reads faster then a dvd drive at 2x and it stays at a constant data rate and doesnt jump around like a dvd drive so do your research then come back."
Please don't tell people to do their research when you haven't done so yourself.
The 12x DVD drive in the 360 is on average FASTER than the 2x Blu-ray drive in the PS3. That's a fact.
Blu-ray reads at a constant 9MB/s, however 12x dual-layered DVD reads at up to 16.62MB/s on the outer edge and down to around 8MB/s on the inner edge. So for the first GB of data, the PS3 is a little faster, but after that, the 360 is progressively faster at reading data. Hence devs greatly improve performance on DVD by putting important data on the outside tracks of the DVD, and use the inner tracks for data where speed isn't that important, such as audio for realtime cinematics and video files.
This was also done last gen, including using dummy files on the inner tracks for games which didn't fill the DVD, therefore 'pushing' the game data out onto the faster tracks.
For the PS3, they don't have this option, therefore to improve read performance they have to use the HDD instead (probably one of the reasons it is included as standard).
@chairman mao - They repeated data on the PS3 version of Oblivion to improve seek time, but this isn't common with PS3 games. Like I said above, to improve read times, the main solution on the PS3 is to dump GBs of data from the Blu-ray disk to the HDD (typically, 4-5GB in certain PS3 games so far).
I mean... if those are the good ones that means you can actually play arround 12 good games at the same time?!(60 gigs) i mean without copying data again and again... well that sucks
The obvious answers are that they span multiple discs, and compress, degrade, and remove assets until they fit. They can ship discs with a single language, cut portions of the voiced audio out.
I'm definately going to get this for the PS3, but I have no doubt whatesoever that it will only be a timed exclusive. I'm actually a bit concerned about allowing Kojima that much space in the first place. We'll be lucky to finish the first dialog before the 360 version ships..
Yeah they'll have work porting it onto multiple DVDs, but it's more like 25GB to 9GB disks, not 50GB, and so that's not a problem. Blue Dragon was over 30GB of data (according to Sakaguchi) compressed and split across 3 DVDs on the 360.
I see you wasn't actually saying it will be 50GB, but was just replying to the question Albanian_Killa raised.
"but I have no doubt whatesoever that it will only be a timed exclusive."
Agreed. It's only a matter of time before it's confirmed.
well id didnt know all that information so thanks for informing me. i thought the 360 drive read speed was inconsistant when it came to read speeds.
And @ the one. How is it a matter of time if the main person behind mgs4 want it to be a sony exclusive. i highly think sony is not stupid enough to loose this game. and it adds upto 39 gb of data right now and he has a long time to go before the game is complete, so that would be trying to port basically 40 gb to 9 gb disk that kind of hard since kojima wanted this game to immerse the player with its extreme audio.
compersion is not good.
It get u lower audio and video quality
if it were ported to xbox, kojima would have said that. xbox people nedd to shut their mouths!
ITS ECLUSIVE FOR PS3, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!
well said
Whats the fuss about this *****ty game, PS3 FANERDS hyping anything, and another bad Killzone game YAY! Idiots. Xbox 360 FOR THE *****IN WIN!
Then why do all you xbox *****boys keep going "I told you so!" if it is such a *****ty game?
your a total idiot metal gear is one of the mest games of all time. you would know that if you ever played it!
Kojima said it was a PS3 exclusive along with harrison after this rumor.
This rumor is a false. Damn xbox hippies
"Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. "
How can the creators of this game claim such a fallasy?
Have we all forgotten the original Metal Gear was for the NES? Do any of you even remember what an NES is? I doubt it since it seems most game players that consider themselves so "hardcore" started playing after the PSX gained a tremendous popularity. Such a shame such a shame!!!!!
Sony fanboys are going to have to get used to it. The same thing happened to Nintendo when the PSX was the system to go for and once Nintendo exclusives like Final Fantasy and Street Fighter were instead ditching the N64 for the PSX. I get a feeling history will repeat itself here unless a serious price drop is put in place for the PS3.
yes "metal gear" came out for nintendo, but it wasn't as popular until "metal gear solid" came out for the playstation. I would say it is actually a different game.
They did have a price drop and now you're still complaining. Why don't you go and get a PS3 right since it's only 500 almost the same as an Elite; only 20 dollar difference. Stop using the price of the PS3 as a bad thing. When it was 600 bucks everyone complains about it, and when they give you the price drop of a 100 bucks you still complain about it.
What a noob. 'Metal Gear SOLID' was definitely born on the PS1. Did they say 'Metal Gear Series' ?
Learn to read.
are you comparing an nes game to a ps1 game? think of this way MGS truly gained its popularity on the ps1 so thats where people consider metal gear to be started. this sound like old news this has happened b4 a couple of months ago and thats why kojima had that press meeting to debunk the roomer. thi probably is joke to create more buzz.
"Have we all forgotten the original Metal Gear was for the NES"
The original metal gear was on the Sega Master System. The NES version came later.
I don't recall ever seeing any kind of metal gear on sega. If you have an answer as to why please tell me.
you are all wrong although i do believe mgS did start on ps, MG didnt start on nes or sega... it started on the MSX(wikipedia and ive dl the game before)
Metal Gear originally started on the MSX. Metal Gear on Nintendo were completely different from the originals.
the original metal gear 1 and its secuel are for msx(a computer standar) not in nes
you can compare the original metal gear included in metal gear solid 3 subsistence and the metal gear for nes
*****SPOILER ALERT*****
ultra games changed the first game and ported to nes(lot of changes were made because system limitations and because ultra's decisions, in nes you start in the jungle, and there is no metal gear, only a computer and bigboss), also they did a sequel by their own
in the past kojima and his team only worked with msx and msx2 also the first kojima game(penguin adventure) were developed for msx
kojima was not so famous before because he usually select a particular system regardless of how popular is, that's why other series as policenauts and snatcher were in msx, segacd, saturn and psx and not in snes or nes
metal gear characters usually appear in other games as special guest like gray fox(in a gba kart game), snake in a party game for ps2 and the new smash bros brawl
maybe kojima prefers the playstation brand because sony where one of the most important companies with msx or because konami's story with sony or maybe he simply select one particular audience
you are smart knowing of the NES metal gear. however it was born on the PS1. he said metal gear solid not metal gear. solid is separate from the original story line with some tie ins.
If your all so sure its exclusive why are you all getting so angry about this?... Scared of the truth?
If anything we are sick of people with nothing better to do then support claims that this game is not going to be a PS3 exclusive. Especially since the same people who want it to be multi platform now are often same people who would insult it before these rumors started.
Basically...
is this guy suffering from severe mental retardation?
unfortunately for u xbots ur never gonna get it ported over mainly because its been said time and time again that its a PS3 EXCLUSIVE and even if u did get it it would suck on the 360 anyways with lack of storage and proccessing power meaning it would be *****!
Even after the Sony conference at E3 with verbal confirmation from Kojima himself, those xbox idiots still spread rumours. When is this going to stop b/c i am sick and tired of it! It will not go to xbox and all of you know it. That magazine must have been release or written before E3 or they are just bored and want to spread a rumour to piss everyone off!
PS3 RULES!!!!!!
Devil May Cry 4 is still PS3 exclusive too right?
That petition was successful?
I told you guys about this article, and most of you thought I was just making things up. Kojima may have said it was an exclusive, but he probably meant timed exclusive and said exclusive just so people would buy the ps3. If he were to tell people it was a timed exclusive then those people who would have bought a ps3 just for mgs4 would have probably reconcidered, thus he is stretching the truth to help sony a little bit.
When the real truth is, it doesnt matter if Kojima says he wants it exclusive or not. The article that states this says that a non-Kojima team is working on the port, so Kojima doesnt really have a hand in it anymore. They also said at E3 that UT3 was going to be exclusive (and not timed exclusive), so your point is moot.
Personally, I could care less, even though I know it will become multiplat in the end. I have a ps3 (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/HardToExist/proofps3axomamoxoa.jpg
) and a 360 (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/HardToExist/proof360axomamoxoa.jpg) and if MGS4 doesnt go multiplat ill still get it (since that is the ONLY good game coming out for the ps3 anywhere in the near future) and if it does go multiplat well then I will definately get it for 360 because 360 is the better console, plain and simple.
you know what i find funnier than this post? the fact that you're making fun of a console you supposedly have. dont get me wrong, i wont deny that you have it, but i dont understand why you would continuously bash on the playstation if you own it. personally, if it does end up going to the 360 which i seriously doubt, i'll probably end up purchasing the ps3 version because i have played the metal gear solid series on the ps2 which is what i'm accustomed to.
and why do you always come to the ps3 section to post this kind of *****? cant find any good news in the 360 section so you have to come to this one to bash on something else?
"cant find any good news in the 360 section so you have to come to this one to bash on something else?"
Er hem, this IS on the 360 section too! The clue is in the topic ;)
And he does have a PS3, he proved it conclusively with photos yesterday (I can't remember which topic thread it was in however).
1) Its posted in 360 and ps3 forums, noob.
2) Yes, I regret to inform you that I do in fact own a ps3. I figured I would get both so that I can see for myself which one was the better of the two, instead of letting others make up my mind for me. Concider it $600 wasted for something I already knew, that the 360 is the superior console this generation.
I only wish that all the dumb sony fanboys who frequent this site to only spew forth anti-MS comments that they have no TRUE idea about would do the same, though most of them refuse to buy the 360 because of brand loyalty. But Im beginning to think its less about brand loyalty (to the ones with half a brain at least) and more about what theyre afraid they might find, a better console than what sony offers and *gasp* at a cheaper price!!
I have a PS3 and my buddy has an Xbox360. We spend most of our time on the PS3. Why? Because it's a better entertainment experience, the HDMI and Blu-ray movies are superb and we can't get enough of Resistance, Motorstorm and Rainbow Six at the Mo. On Xbox we played Gears to death (and Rainbow Six funnily enough) but now it's boring, all the demos we've played recently suggest there is a lot of crap out their and Forza2 doesn't impress once you've seen the beauty of GTHD. Resistance is still going strong and Motorstorm is such a laugh. TRUE STORY - my buddy is getting a PS3 next month and will be part-exchanging his Xbox360. I believe this will be something most 360 users will be doing soon. AoxomamoxoA is full of it. Any one can take a photo of a friends PS3, you really would not be spouting rubbish about PS3 if you had one - FACT. Come back when you can afford it.
BTW: The magazine article mentioned in this story was clearly written before E3. It's time you guys face the FACTS, MGS4 is PS3 EXCLUSIVE.
The moral of the story - Just trade in your Xbox360 if you want to play it that bad!
I have a 360 and my buddy has a PS3. We spend most of our time on the 360. Why? Because it's a better entertainment experience, XBox live is superb and we can't get enough of Gears of War, PGR3 and Rainbow Six at the Mo. On PS3 we played Resistance to death (and Rainbow Six funnily enough) but now it's boring, all the demos we've played recently suggest there is a lot of crap out their and future games like Killzone doesn't impress once you've seen the beauty of Halo 3. Gears is still going strong and PGR3 is such a laugh. TRUE STORY - my buddy is getting a 360 next month and will be part-exchanging his PS3. I believe this will be something most PS3 users will be doing soon.
BTW: The magazine article mentioned in this story was clearly written before E3. But that doesn't mean anything, since whatever was said at E3 doesn't prove MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive.
The moral of the story - Just trade in your PS3.
Maybe PS3 (Not sony) fans just want a console that actually works with free online and 5hit like home coming out, the games and a high def drive built in.
Its not loyally although the playstation hasnt let me down b4... And the way things look its not anytime soon (or at all).
And your right the 360 is cheaper... You can tell. I guess you get what you pay for (just like the wii).
Last gen, my PS2 gave me (and many other gamers) *far* more problems than my XBox, especially those dam annoying DREs. Didn't seem to bother gamers though, as the PS2 sales continued to climb.
So reliability isn't as big an issue as some gamers make out.
But you did had fun on the PS2??????
I did have fun ..., that's the point I'm making. The unreliability of the PS2 didn't stop me having fun, and the same is true for 360 gamers with their console (who know that if it breaks, it will be fixed).
So reliability is not a big deal.
My GC was the most reliable console, but it gave me the least fun in total last gen (with a few great moments like RE4 and Zelda, but little else).
My original xbox only went online in half my games, often told me new games were "dirty." My dad got an xbox to play halo, and it was a good thing to because in six months it was the only game it would play. I had my PS2 for 5 years and it worked fine. That's just me, and that experience is the reason I have a ps3. I didn't want to have to buy a lot of add-ons like all consoles from last year, and I didn't want to have to buy a separate Blu-ray player. I thinking about getting a 360 until they cut the built in HD-dvd, I wanted it used for games, the extra space can't hurt.
Kojima is a man of honor and keeps his wor don this,so no mgs4 for ps3
ugh...so, if compression is so great, why would people constanty make higher capacity disks, hard drives and other storage media, just download a compression kit, and compress all you want, 150GB turns into 4MB?
Why do you assume everything MUST be squeazed onto one DVD? Blue Dragon for example comes on 3 DVDs on the 360.
and i don't think its a problem... i mean if it costs the same to the final consumer what is the problem of using 3 or 4 disks
R u crazy man? what are we the stone age? Are we gonna start using dial-[hones again? Get with the times! get a job and make some dough so ur not angry that you cant afford a ps3....
Stop acting like an a$$hole, multiple disks have been in use throughout the history of CD and DVDs in gaming, and hence continues with the 360. And since when is it the stone age for you to get up off your lazy fat a$$ to change the disk for multidisk DVD movie, or do you lack the attention span to watch long movies?
"Get with the times! get a job"
I have a job, I earn enough to buy everyone in this thread a PS3, 360 and a Wii EACH, but I own none of those consoles yet because a) I don't have the time yet to do as much gaming as I would like, b) I prefer to buy consoles after the price drop because problems will be sorted out and there will be a library of great games to choose from, and c) I have many other hobbies, gaming is just one of them.
So, if you think multiple disks is the stone age, then I suggest you get out more and try to get a life outside of gaming.
hold ur horses, i was being sarcastic....
P.S. if u dont have time, why do u waste it posting comments on this crappy website??????
Ok, I take you word for it on the sarcasm.
BTW, I didn't say I don't have time, I said I don't have time to do as much gaming as I would like. It only takes a few minutes to browse the comments here and then post a comment, and I can do this at any time (whilst watching TV on the PC, in between emails, during a break at work, etc).
For games, you can't just start it up, play for a 2 minutes and stop, it requires FAR more dedication to make progress than a few minutes, and with a checkpoint system in some games, quite a lot of dedication.
So I'm looking forward to the time when I can regularly put an hour or so aside each day for gaming. :)
I'd been in a rather heated online discussion just before that post, so I probably carried it over into my reply. Therefore sorry for going a bit overboard earlier. :)
look what happened with banjo kazooie! it was supposed to stay on nintendo, but guess what!?! IT'S ON 360. It will make it to 360, pretty much everything does. GET USED TO IT.
i hope you didnt compare banjo to snake. does anybody actually remmember that game. i dint even own an N64 so i dont care just like halo3 doesnt make me wont to get up and buy a 360.
idiot MS bought out RARE; who created Banjo Kazooie dumbass
a sweet one!!!! lol i mean.... man i really doubt it will be on 360 but if it does... ps3 loses i mean, i can't think of any other big exclusive but final fantasy....
any way i have a 360 and mgs4 is the only game i really envy....
(please, dont answer with your list of "exclusive" games like singstar and those games)
Im going to answer with a list of exclusives that are making their mark and are brand new franchises, all you have is halo and halo 3 is the last in the trilogy, sure you may have halo wars but it wont last long, so here I go:
Motorstorm
Resistance
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword
Getaway
Eye of Judgement
Haze (timed I know)
Unreal Tournament (time I know again)
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
LittleBigPlanet
Lair
Now they are all just brand new franchises, that Sony have made and they seem to have made a huge impression on the gaming community.
Oh yeh did I forget to mention PS3 sales have gone up 130% in America whereas the 360 has only slightly gone up by 1%. The PS3 is now outselling the 360 in its homeland thus proving all you xbot fanboys dont make any difference by what you call our console. It proves that playstation is a solid brand and have proved itself the only downfall this time is price, but since the price drop all the gamers who dont go on sites like these (a large percentage dont go on these sites) have gone out and bought a PS3 over an Xbox even with the lack of games.
This just shows Sony dont even have to put out AAA titles yet and they can already boost their sales tremendously in America.
If you also read this article is states ''months after the ps3 release'' now correct me if im wrong but im sure months would be the time in which a port would be made... now basically what Konami is trying to say is that if the PS3 sales dont do so well then they will jump ship to the 360 as well which he did state. But if the PS3 sales do well then I doubt it will come to the 360.
Also think about this if soooo many gamers love MGS4 and only a small percentage visit sites like this, and the 360 MGS4 wouldnt be out for a few months, then they would think its only out on the PS3 wouldnt you think? Now if they see after say 3 weeks that the 360 doesnt have a release then they will most likely put cash down for a PS3 in the end thus we get more gamers anyway XD
"Oh yeh did I forget to mention PS3 sales have gone up 130% in America whereas the 360 has only slightly gone up by 1%"
Of course it is. If I was a gamer thinking about getting a PS3, I would try to grab the 60GB version now before it sells out, since I know that once it's sold out, I'll be left with the 80GB version with no emotion engine processor at the original cost of $599.
The PS3 is having the equivalent of a sale. Great for the console, but it's really just a sales blip at the moment.
well that was more mature than the other one who was copy pasted and sux lol
man the only games on that list i envy a little are resistance and warhawk to be honest.
and well what can i say maybe a tie end for the console wars? lol... i like my 360 but i like ps3 too... in fact mgs... yeah thats it lol i think this is a good reason to buy a ps3
why are sony and MS fanboys so stupid
MS fan boys for believing a rumor even when Hideo Kojima confirm that it was exclusive for the PS3
Sony fanboys for getting mad over a stupid rumor that was posted in an Xbox magazine that of course is gonna spreed rumors that their readers want to read.
That is exactly why I only play PC games and sometimes DS.
Well, given the fact that it IS posted in official xbox magazine, yes. BUT at the same time, it was posted by the auther who goes by the name of Mole. Here is some background info for you on the Mole...
He speculated that DMC4 was going multiplat 2 whole months before the announcement.
He told us of Splinter Cell: Convictions being an xbox exclusive about 3 weeks before Ubisoft released their statement.
He dug up info on the chatpad for 360 users, pre release of any official info.
He was all over the UT3 delay for 360 owners.
You mentioned Banjo Kazooie, he told us of it around the same time that Rare was bought, waaay before an actual official announcement that a new BK game was in the works.
And now he has given us news on MGS4 being ported by a non-Kojima-led team, and that it will pretty much only be a timed exclusive for PS3.
...all things he spoke of before any OFFICIAL announcements had been made. His job is basically to find the most cutting edge concrete news and report it before word even gets out. Hence the name, The Mole.
He has predicted a lot of things, and 9 out of 10 times he has been right. In fact, I cant remember an article he wrote that turned up false. So sure, call it a rumor and wait for Kojima to say something (which he wont till AFTER the ps3 version is out), but in the mean time Im gonna go with the Moles info.
Well its been stated b4 so im not even going to get mad over this, however i will say this AoxomamoxoA why do you insist on bashing the ps3, yea we know that you dislike it, just like MCS but still does that mean you have to throw it in our(sony fans) faces. I personally don't have a hatred for Xbox i actually play games on it at my friends house( i also play halo from time to time) but i only talk facts about the current state of the xbox360, which you clearly say its a lie.
Also The reason why most my comments sounds like fanboyish is cause i hate it when you MCS, Shatterdome and others have to say negative S.H.I.T about the ps3, its bad enough the press is does it, we don't need you doing it as well. And i decide to respond to people like you with facts.
It seems you have taken your side as a pro xbox anti ps3 person and thats fine just don't say anything about the PS3 then.
you tell them AoxomamoxoA I am on your side
PS3 gamers (fanboys or not) are just annoyed at the fact that no matter how many times Kojima says it's exclusive, Xbox fanboys don't listen and live in their own M$ world. What Sony gamers should do is just not pay attention to them. Seriously let them think it's going to happen and when it doesn't you get the final laugh. If it does happen, then just deal with it.
I am a PS3 gamer, but I have a brain. Even if only 10% of 360 gamers wanted to buy it, that could mean up to 1,000,000 worldwide sales. If you want to cut costs an localize only to English you could still top 500,000 sales pretty easily.
With four or more times the installed base right now a 360 version could easily make as much money as a PS3 version. Even if the installed bases were equal you probably couldn't justify ignoring 360 at this point. PS3 fans shouldn't expect any third party title developed in the next two years to stay exclusive, and maybe not even after that. It just doesn't make business sense.
It doesn't take a "mole" to figure this out, it doesn't even require a "source" other than sales figures.
***** OFF FAN BOYS!!!
Kojima said it's NOT coming to 360 - how much more proof do you need?!?!?!
If a game hasn't been announced for another console (yet), then when asked, everyone is going to keep denying it. This ALWAYS happens, and has done so for many games where the rumours were later proven to be true (DMC4, VF5, Assassin's Creed, UT3, etc...).
What do you think was going to happen with MGS4? That they'll ask Kojima about it and he would say - "Yes, after the PS3 version, MGS4 will appear on the 360...DOH! I mean...No... it's exclusive to the PS3, I'm not developing a 360 version, another team is...DOH...I mean no-one is".
They're not stupid you know :), they will keep saying 'NO' until an official announcement is made (if the rumours are true).
So it may or may not be true, but Kojima's comments are not proof of this.
Honestly doesnt QJ love starting fanboy arguments I find it quite funny that most of these ''console fanboys'' don't even have all 3 next gen consoles so realy they should not be the judge of whats the best!
Well Xbox Magazine is going to get sued for making a stupid rumor
Please come back to the real world.
Well its been stated b4 so im not even going to get mad over this, however i will say this AoxomamoxoA why do you insist on bashing the ps3, yea we know that you dislike it, just like MCS but still does that mean you have to throw it in our(sony fans) faces. I personally don't have a hatred for Xbox i actually play games on it at my friends house( i also play halo from time to time) but i only talk facts about the current state of the xbox360, which you clearly say its a lie.
Also The reason why most my comments sounds like fanboyish is cause i hate it when you MCS, Shatterdome and others have to say negative S.H.I.T about the ps3, its bad enough the press is does it, we don't need you doing it as well. And i decide to respond to people like you with facts.
It seems you have taken your side as a pro xbox anti ps3 person and thats fine just don't say anything on the xbox then.
Well its been stated b4 so im not even going to get mad over this, however i will say this AoxomamoxoA why do you insist on bashing the ps3, yea we know that you dislike it, just like MCS but still does that mean you have to throw it in our(sony fans) faces. I personally don't have a hatred for Xbox i actually play games on it at my friends house( i also play halo from time to time) but i only talk facts about the current state of the xbox360, which you clearly say its a lie.
Also The reason why most my comments sounds like fanboyish is cause i hate it when you MCS, Shatterdome and others have to say negative S.H.I.T about the ps3, its bad enough the press is does it, we don't need you doing it as well. And i decide to respond to people like you with facts.
It seems you have taken your side as a pro xbox anti ps3 person and thats fine just don't say anything on the xbox then.
metal gear solid bombed on the xbox and gamecube.
it even bombed on the psp in all it's forms.
for some odd reason it only sells on the playstation.
it's like pokemon,take it off the gameboy and it can't sell.
anyways,i'm guessing it'll be a timed game,there's 9 million people using the 360,and mostly in america,a huge chunk of that 360 gamer would be the games target audience.it'd make sense to do it.
then again,a wii port would make a really quick buck.
either way you go about,it doesn't make me want to buy a ps3,there's other games that are coming out that are better.
What about portable ops? They're already making an expansion pack. That says to me that it at least did well enough to continue releasing on that platform. I hope they keep doing so, I wouldn't mind seeing another Acid game and maybe have it set to big boss.
it is possible.....it has happend before....when mgs 2 was coming out they claimed that it would ONLY be a ps2 exclusive, Even hideo mentioned that and ther were no rumors....then outta no where MGs appears for Xbox......dont kick the idea out yet but xbox fans should realy no get their hopes up.....plus mgs4 on the wii is kind of hard to imagine, the game cost too much for it to be remade again JUST for the wii
You claim that you have more exclusives but on relection the one's you have are mainly diabolical crud! Because of this you try to hang on to the hope that you can get the games that PS3 has why because your bored with the 360 crud. If you have to make up crap and rumours about your games line-up then things must be getting desparate in that old subconcious of yours. As completely and utterly foretold at E3 THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO PS3. The 360 article was clearly written before the annoucment at E3 at Qj should be ashamed for publishing journalistic crap like this. If this ever came out on 360, Phil Harrison would have a riot on his hands and he knows it, there is too much at stake with MGS4 to tell lies. The best way to settle this is to look at future Xbox games, is their any graphically that matches it? No, there really isn't so chances are it can't be done (not without running those beautiful graphics). If it comes out on 360 then I'll eat my n*b!
"As completely and utterly foretold at E3 THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO PS3."
Go find the quotes about MGS4 being exclusive at E3 and I'll find you the equivalent statements said about other games with later turned out NOT to be exclusive.
"The best way to settle this is to look at future Xbox games, is their any graphically that matches it? No"
Actually yes. Next question?
"If it comes out on 360 then I'll eat my n*b!"
Then bon appetite, but put some salt on it first. :P
Sorry, but you are really naive if you think anything said so far means MGS4 is definately a PS3 exclusive. That's not to say it isn't, but there are no guarentees in gaming, no matter how much you want to believe it. So there's every possibility of MGS4 coming to the 360 and being every bit as good as the PS3 version.
First there's the lie (oops, I mean 'true story') you made up earlier, and now your agnry attack at 360 owners.
Seems you are the one who is desperate. :|
I don't think he wants to try doing that again since mgs2 sucked so bad on the original xbox. Also mgs2 was exclusive. Substance was released on both consoles and it shows why some ports just don't work on others. Kojima said that all of his time is devoted just to this game; at this point it would be impossible for him to put it on 360 even if he changed his mind and would be a waste of money trying to get it to work. It should stay a Playstation 3 exclusive.
"I don't think he wants to try doing that again since mgs2 sucked so bad on the original xbox."
MGS2 was BETTER on the XBox than the PS2 last gen...better EXCEPT for the rain, which really effected the framerate. Other than the way rain was implemented, the XBox version was better. And sales were lower simply because there were far less XBox consoles than PS2 consoles, and it was released much later, when gamers who wanted to play MGS2 had probably already bought a PS2.
"Kojima said that all of his time is devoted just to this game"
What Kojima says means nothing. HE didn't port MGS2 to the XBox last gen, it was the work of another team at Konami. That team ported the game to the XBox, not Kojima and his team! So the same would be true for MGS4 on the 360 (if the rumours are true). So whilst Kojima may be dedicating all his time to the PS3 version, if there is a 360 port in the works, it can proceed without him!
I personally liked the ps2 version over the xbox hands down from the control scheme to the overall experience; but thats my opinion. I'm not sure if it is true but I think Kojima does have some kind of control over the franchise where he has to at least give the ok on other projects utilizing the game as well as the characters like when he oversaw twin snakes or approved the stories of both acid games. I mean it isn't like konami to decide this and not tell him. Anyways enough rambling, its still only going to the PS3 right where it should be and where it will stay; end of bs rumor for now until the next time.
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