Posted Jul 20, 2007 at 05:00PM by Glen D. Listed in: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Rumors, Games Tags: Japan, Hideo Kojima, Konami, Sony, Solid Snake, Official Xbox Magazine
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MGS4 Vamp - Image 1It's been rumored all too often, but no matter how many times the makers of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots try to hush the buzz, more reports of the game porting to the Microsoft Xbox 360 are surfacing.

GamePro reports that a trailer for the game in Japan hints of a winter release. That should mean anytime between December and February of this year and the next one. The official Xbox Magazine then says that a reliable source told them that the Xbox 360 version would come "a few months" after the Sony PlayStation 3's debut of MGS4.

It can be recalled that Konami top cat Kazumi Kitaue was quoted with a statement that fanned the rumor flames at a high point. "Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps," he said as he pointed to the current install base and sales figures of the PS3.

What do you think? Is it just a matter of time before we see Solid Snake and the rest of the gang on the Xbox 360? Series creator Hideo Kojima described the PS3 as the theatre where he wants the "grand finale" of the MGS series to take place, but will his masterpiece go to the Xbox 360 which he likened to a DVD player? We'll find out in a few months.


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   by Johny North (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » LOL

TOLD YA SO!!!


   Re: zeromatrix (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » ...

If it does come out for 360, it wont be in "a few months". This is a bull$hit rumor

   Re: hush404 - 2007-07-20
 » uhh I dun see hard proof

Honestly because the xbot magazine says it's coming it makes it true? No matter who says it, it's a rumor until Konami announces such news.

   Re: Don Quixote (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » Theres going to be alot of dissappointed xbox fanbois out there

MGS4 is never going to happen

   Re: XTreme (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » Sure Don

They said exactly the same about MGS2 (I was on the forums at the time). And then, after the PS2 version was released, the so-called impossible happened, Konami announced MGS2 will be coming to the XBox, and it did.

And before you talk about sales, the XBox version didn't sell as well as the PS2 version because there were FAR fewer XBox consoles than PS2 consoles (and always has been).

Hence I think there are enough clues around to suggest that MGS4 on the 360 is very likely to happen, but it will not be announced until the PS3 version is released (or just before release).

   Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-21
 » Yeah...

Konami has been putting out a ton of software for 360 (mainly XBLA games) and can see that they sell and can make money.

They wont want to take away sony's steam, so they will keep it hush until after it's been released on PS3....then it will come to 360 6-12 months later....

   Re: VSG (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » yeah sure

of course it can come out on the xbox 360
konami cannot resist the temptation and the calls of xbox 360 fanboys. but saying few months is an understatement. first MGS4 a game created with the purpose of using each and every ounce of processing power the ps3 has therefore porting such game on the xbox 360 will pretty much create the game from the ground up except for the CG and some assets that can be used from the ps3 production. Few months will not be sufficient. 1 year maybe! and that is if kojima devotes a whole team for the port. but i guess kojima wont so its gonna be a small team from konami that will handle the port. hence longer dev time and standard will not be on par with the original ps3 version but of course will have some added eyecandy bonuses.

   Re: Nez (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @VSG

Why are you assuming the any port will start AFTER the release of the PS3 version? If Konami have plans for a 360 version, then work on it would have started already!

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   Re: yeah (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » just one thing

all this time all i hear from the xbots is that it doesn't matter because mgs4 is average is not that good. an now that "the usual" more rumors about it going to 360 u guys are going crazy u xbots are like females never know what u want

   Re: andrewsqual (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » It is still

bull***** that it will happen. That Xbox magazine was just so sure like most Xbox fans that it would be announced at E3 because the magazine was already printed 3 weeks ago. And then when it wasn't announced they were like " crap now eveyone knows we just said that". I don't know why people keep saying it is happening. Do you really think it can fit on a DVD9 after it has always been developed for blu ray without any compromising in mind such as Gtaiv?

   Re: Nez (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @andrewsqual

"Do you really think it can fit on a DVD9 "

Yes, on multiple disks. Why is that concept so difficult for some gamers to understand?

   Re: sam91 424 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » who cares

yea it does not matter if this come out for 360 because this game is gay anyways

   Re: r35 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-22
 » negative

i know a guy who is basically one of Kojima's Aussie go to guys when he makes those occasionally trips here... he says bull$hit to X360, Fanboy started hype thats all it is
   by Jimmy (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » Uhhh riight

If this was in this months issue, that probably means it was written before e3 where kojima said exclusive for ps3.

Plus, its another *****ing rumor.


   Re: Seoulfood (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » that's true

Phil Harrison also reconfirmed that it was exclusive.
But yea, it is "old news" if it just came out in OXM.
   by Johny North (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » YES!!!

I KNEW IT!! EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THE GAME WILL NOT PORT OVER TO SH1TBOX 360, AS A 360 FAN, I STILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT RUMORS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE!! I LOVE YOU BILL GATES!@!!! THANKS FOR MAKING US HAVE "HOPE" THAT THE BEST GAME EVER WILL PORT OVER TO OUR SHETTY SYSTEM! YAYYY!!!

   by OMFG (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » OMFG

PEOPLE THIS IS A *****ING RUMOR, *****ING SERIOUSLY..... HIDEO KOJIMA SAID THIS IS A PS3 EXCLUSIVE. EXCLUSIVE!!! THIS IS NOTHING BUT 360FANBOYS RUMORS FROM MICROSOFT. MY GOD PEOPLE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD "EXCLUSIVE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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   Re: McChickenSandwich (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » calm down

ps3 exclusive could mean timed exclusive

why are you so angry anyway if your so sure its exclusive, there were so many people like you back in the day ranting about assasin's creeds exclusiveness and look what happened there

   Re: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » !

dont worry > this is normal behaviour for PSTards.

PS3 fanboys are mainly imature kids

   Re: Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » I know....

I love pissing off kids.
   by No name (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » Kinda funny

All movies go to DVD eventually.


   Re: antaeus - 2007-07-20
 » ...

at *****ty quality, yes
   by WOWZERRRRS (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » ZOMG@@@@@@

FACKKK ECKSBOTS

   by Rizno (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » PS3

PS3 FTW, nuff said.

   by Ash (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » So...

PS3 is a theater, and MGS4 will debute on it, after a few months, it will be on the 360, which he called a DVD player. So in actual terms, he confirmed it back then, just as new films come out in the theater, a few months later they are released on DVD for people to watch at home.


   Re: 666 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » 666

He was talking in terms of quality not place.
Anyway, it seems that it doesn't matter what Kojima
says anymore. lol 360 fantards are funny.

   Re: 999 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » 999

all i see are sony fantards

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   Re: Shadownet - 2007-07-20
 » yea...

keep telling yourself that, maybe one day you'll believe that, till then keep ranting and hoping...

MGS for he PS3,
PS3 FTW

   Re: BruceLeroy (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @ 999

but I see you here.....and you're definitely a xbox *****boy...i mean fanboy.
   by Gamesdmc3 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » exclusives 4 ps3

THIS LIST IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
UPDATED: July 17 - E3 2007 UPDATE


Unreleased Games - 116 Titles
Afrika - LINK
Airtight PS3 Project [Untitled] - LINK
Angel Rings [Working Title] - LINK
Aqua Vita - LINK
Bacterius - LINK
Big Time Revenge - LINK
BioWare Project - LINK
Blast Factor: Advanced Research - LINK * * NEW * *
Brave Arms - LINK
Buu Buu Cocoreccho by Loco Roco - LINK LINK * * NEW * *
Castlevania PS3 - LINK
Chain Limit - LINK
Coded Arms Assault - LINK
Crytek Project - Crysis [Rumored] - LINK LINK
Danger Planet - LINK
DC Universe MMO - LINK
Disgaea 3 - LINK * * NEW * *
Dragon Age - EGM 5/2007 - Page 42
Dragon Ball Z [Untitled]
Dreamers - LINK
Driver PS3 - Driver 5 [Unofficial Title] - LINK
Dynasty Warriors 6 - LINK * * NEW * *
Echochrome - LINK * * NEW * *
Eight Days - LINK
Elefunk - LINK * * NEW * *
Ember - LINK
Everyday Shooter - LINK * * NEW * *
Eye Create - LINK
EyeDentify - LINK
Factor 5 Project #2 [Untitled] - LINK
Fantasy Lab Project [Untitled] - LINK
FIA World Touring Car Championship - LINK
Fifth Phantom Saga - LINK
Final Fantasy Versus XIII - LINK
Final Fantasy XIII - LINK
Folklore - LINK
Free Realms - LINK * * NEW * *
Fumito Ueda [Rumored Project 1] - LINK LINK
Fumito Ueda SOTC / ICO [Rumored Project 2] - LINK LINK
Fury - LINK
Game Arts Project - LINK
God of War III - LINK
Go! Sports Ski - LINK * * NEW * *
Grand Turismo 5 - LINK
Grand Turismo 5 Prologue - LINK * * NEW * *
Gretzky NHL [Working Title] - LINK
Haze (Timed Until 2008) - LINK * * NEW * *
Heavenly Sword - LINK Hero - LINK
High Velocity Bowling - LINK
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip: Poker Edition - LINK * * NEW * *
Hot Shots Golf [Working TItle] - LINK
Housemarque Project - LINK
Infamous - LINK
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier [Rumored] - LINK
Killzone 2 - LINK * * NEW * *
Kingdom Hearts 3 [Rumored] - LINK
Kurayami AKA Darkness - LINK
Lair - LINK
L.A. Noire - LINK
LittleBigPlanet - LINK
Metal Gear Solid Online - LINK * * NEW * *
Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots - LINK
Metro 2033: The Last Refuge - LINK
Monster Hunter 3 - LINK
Monster Madness - LINK
MotorStorm 2 - LINK
Namco PS3 RPG - LINK
Namco PS3 Shooter - LINK
Namco PS3 Sports Project - LINK
NBA '08 - LINK * * NEW * *
NCSoft PS3 Project 1 - LINK * * NEW * *
NCSoft PS3 Project 2 - LINK * * NEW * *
NiOh - LINK
Nobi Nobi Boy - LINK * * NEW * *
Pain - LINK
PixelJunk Racers - LINK LINK
Project Psychic [Working Title] - LINK
Pterodon FPS Project [Untitled] - LINK
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction [Working Title] - LINK
Redwood Falls - LINK
Rengoku The End of the Century - LINK
Resistance 2 [Rumored, But Likely] - EGM 2/2007 - Page 77
Returning Alive [Working Title] - LINK
Rockstar Old West PS3 Project [Untitled] - LINK
Romance of the Three Kingdoms PS3 - LINK
Sam Suede: Undercover Exposure - LINK
Second - LINK
Secret Service - LINK
Shin Megami Tensei - LINK
Singstar [Working Title] - LINK
Skyblue - LINK
Snakeball - LINK
SOCOM: Confrontation - LINK
Starbreeze Next-Gen Project [Untitled] - LINK
Team Siren Project [Untitled] - LINK
Tecmo Action-Adventure [Untitled] - LINK LINK
Tekken 6 - LINK
thatgamecompany Project #2 [Untitled] - LINK
thatgamecompany Project #3 [Untitled] - LINK
The Agency - LINK * * NEW * *
The Eye of Judgment [Working Title] - LINK
The Getaway [Working Title] - LINK
Time Crisis 4 - LINK * * NEW * *
Toy Home - LINK * * NEW * *
Twelve Interactive Sci-Fi action game [Untitled]
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - LINK
Unknown Realms - LINK
Unreal Tournament 3 (Timed Until 2008) - LINK * * NEW * *
WarDevil Enigma - LINK
Warhawk - LINK
Way of the Samurai 3 - LINK
White Knight Story - LINK
Wipeout HD - LINK
Zipper Interactive PS3 Project [untitled] - LINK LINK
Zone of the Enders 3 - LINK

Released Games - 27 Titles
Blast Factor
Calling All Cars!
Cash Guns Chaos DLX
Flow
Formula One Championship Edition
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Genji: Days of the Blade
Go! Sudoku
Go! Puzzle
Gran Turismo HD
GripShift
Lemmings
MLB 07: The Sh


   Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-07-20
 » *yaaawnnn*

Nice list of games that no one other than a brainless sony tool would even remotely care about. When are you gonna make your list of cars that have two cup holders?

   Re: Bl (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » @AoxomamoxoA

someone got bitten by the jealousy bug

   Re: XTreme (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @BI

No, as he says, it's a boring list of games.

I hate 'list' wars, whether it's for the 360 or PS3, because it's pointless and stupid, especially when so many of the games on such lists are likely to be average (or worse) anyway!

   Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-07-21
 » @Bl

Why would I be jealous? I own a ps3 you dumbass!! And Im not excited about 99% of those games. OMG! Go Puzzle!? Are you serious!? Wow, Im gonna go preorder it right now!

...not...

   Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » Aoxsfgbvfg...watever

Ur a dumbas5... So ur not excited for resistance 2, Killzone 2, Warhawk, Mgs4... n all the other 5hit?
Stop looking at the bad ones and get real...

   Re: BL (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @AoxomamoxoA + XTreme

Someone got bitten by the A$$hole bug

   Re: Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » those games suck.

How many games on that list are vaporware?
How many games are unworthy of mention because they are so horrible?
How many are coming to the 360 anyway?

What do you have left?

A typical depressing PS3 game linup!

The only good PS3 game is MGS4, and it's coming to the 360. Give it up. The fight is over. Mindless insults will not save your last decent PS3 exclusive, fantards. They won't announce anything before the PS3 version is released, so don't expect them to. Sony is keeping them silent so they can try to get some more PS3 sales.

   Re: datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-07-22
 » ps3 this year

Well this year I plan on getting Uncharted, Ratchet + Clank, Haze, Warhawk, Madden and NBA Live, Heavenly Sword, GTA 4. Pain and some other psn titles look pretty good, so I don't think I'll have a problem finding good games. Of those Warhawk, Heavenly sword, ratchet + clank, and Uncharted will NOT be coming to the 360. What you guys don't understand is that I don't care what games Xbox has. I don't own one. I could care less if you get MGS4, I'll already be playing it
   by Albanian_Killa (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » Never going to happen.

It's never going to happen. You heard it straight from Hideo Kojima a million times, the XBOX 360 is a DVD player, and he said himself that the XBOX 360 can't handle the game due to the fact it doesn't support Blu-Ray, and the disc capacity for Metal Gear Solid 4 is 50GB. Now tell me, how in hell is a 50GB game going to fit in a 9GB DVD? No way in hell. Also, Hideo Kojima controls what platform the title goes, not Konami.


   Re: dopey (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » ......50 gb?? no!

its actualtly 39 gb

   Re: Shadownet - 2007-07-20
 » ...

while Konaimi is the publisher and have a lot say, im sure that the game's exclusivity lies in Kojima's hands. If he really doesn't want it on the 360, it wont go there. I expect announcement from Konami/Kojima sometime soon.

   Re: mr oknawa (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » simple!

mmm how about compression...?

ever heard of mass effect that games massive with far better graphics and thats gonna be on dvd. and if worst came to worst and they just got lazy they could put it on two discs so 1 time through the game i would have to move two meters forward and change the disc simple!

   Re: . (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » yup

he does

   Re: chairman mao (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » 39gb

the reason this game is 39 gb is they have
to repeat info 3 to 4 times because read speed
of blu ray is so slow
and your right sony has phucked the world
with its bastard child console

   Re: mikey (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » @ chairman mao

do you do any research at all? he stated he was trying to have the best and immersive sound which is where the 39 gb comes from. Tons of great quality and uncompressed sound. Also the bluray drive reads faster then a dvd drive at 2x and it stays at a constant data rate and doesnt jump around like a dvd drive so do your research then come back. *****kking idiot

   Re: yeah (Unregistered) - 2007-07-20
 » speed

blu ray 2x 9mbs ps3
dvd 12x 15.9 xbox360

   Re: Xtreme (Unregistered) - 2007-07-21
 » @mikey

" Also the bluray drive reads faster then a dvd drive at 2x and it stays at a constant data rate and doesnt jump around like a dvd drive so do your research then come back."

Please don't tell people to do their research when you haven't done so yourself.

The 12x DVD drive in the 360 is on average FASTER than the 2x Blu-ray drive in the PS3. That's a fact.

Blu-ray reads at a constant 9MB/s, however 12x dual-layered DVD reads at up to 16.62MB/s on the outer edge and down to around 8MB/s on the inner edge. So for the first GB of data, the PS3 is a little faster, but after that, the 360 is progressively faster at reading data. Hence devs greatly improve performance on DVD by putting important data on the outside tracks of the DVD, and use the inner tracks for data where speed isn't that important, such as audio for realtime cinematics and video files.

This was also done last gen, including using dummy files on the inner tracks for games which didn't fill the DVD, therefore 'pushing' the game data out onto the faster tracks.

For the PS3, they don't have this option, therefore to improve read performance they have to use the HDD instead (probably one of the reasons it is included as standard).

@chairman mao - They repeated data on the PS3 version of Oblivion to improve seek time, but this isn't common with PS3 games. Like I said above, to improve read times, the main solution on the PS3 is to dump GBs of data from the Blu-ray