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The PS3 rocks,360suXs
definetly, would of blown up after 24hours turned on in a normal room little on in a sauna
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from the get go we have the XBox 360 and so the movie will be called The Fellowship Of The Ring.
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and then finally the ending to end all endings.. the third movie comes out with the PS3 charging in fighting thru all the odds and proving that it is still the real deal and not a pretend wannabe and thus we have the third blockbuster PS3- The Return Of The King.
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Man that was great Buddy, i bow down to your creativity. Its so true, i guess Sony has made a perfected system while MS has made a *****box.
All hail Sony for learning from there past mistakes and MS not.
Episode 1. Felowship of the hype, PS3 related violence and theft to get "the sought after ring."
Episode 2. The two games. Motorstorm and Resistance of course! Yes that's it!
Episode 3. Return of the King. XBOX comes back with their improved console and wins back everyone who thought it was crap.
Do you really think you're funny?
You really have no life and nothing better to do day to day on here...do you?
when people buy the xbox 2, they cant help but be worried about the thing over-heating, or the hole 3 red ring thing happining asoon as they take it out of the box ! (which should be included with 3 towells) haha
"Episode 3. Return of the King. XBOX comes back with their improved console"
What?!? Improved Console? When did this happen? Surely you are not talking about the Elite? It has the same bugginess as its predecessor.
Well well, MCS, I see you still haven't managed to extricate yourself from that nice little "My XBox360 is prince" dreamworld of yours.
On a serious note, this is not to say the 360 sucks (I have one, after all), but that technologically, it is NOWHERE near as good as the PS3.
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Ade, on August 12th, 2007 at 8:12 am Said:
Out of curiousity, was a new PS3 used in each test environment?
With the cold/freezer test environment, you could try leaving the PS3 to %u2019soak in%u2019 at various temperatures for an hour or so (to allow the whole PS3 to be at the same temperature as stated on your thermostat) before switching it on and running it, just to see at what temperature it will start to function. This is different to your test environment because you had a PS3 running for a while as you drop the temperature down, which would then have some of its own generated heat to combat the temperature drop.
Also, another good test to do is a temperature/humidity cycle test. Alternate high and low temperature/humidity on an hourly basis to see how the console cope with constantly oscillating conditions. The continuous expansion/contraction due to the changing temperature might kill it.
Anyway, a comparison with an XBox360 and Wii would definitely be great!
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these stupid idiot should not be allowed to post comments on the internet, the article clearly states they only used 1 PS3 unit throughout the test. and there are thousands like him here on QJ
The PS3 has had better cooling than the 360. Of course the 360s problems are about to be fixed for good.
The PS3 has its own problems as well though.
No video is probably the most common, as well as disc read error, power supply issues, disc loading issues, and some other weird problems. Nothing large scale, but it's not like the PS3 has a perfect reliabilty record either.
Look up "as is PS3" on ebay for details!
"The PS3 has its own problems as well though.
No video is probably the most common, as well as disc read error, power supply issues, disc loading issues, and some other weird problems. Nothing large scale, but it's not like the PS3 has a perfect reliabilty record either."
Consumer electronics are hardly perfect. Find a single item sold in mass quantity that doesn't have issues. The point you consistently miss is the Xbox was designed poorly and its rep is now paying for it. PS3s are better designed for reliability. Deal with it you fantard.
"The PS3 has its own problems as well though"
Let's compare statistics, shall we?
XBox 360 - 1 in 3 fails (am referring to the 33% rate)
PS3 - negligible
Of course no hardware is PERFECT. The fact remains though, that as a piece of electronics, and compared to the PS3, the 360 is shoddily designed and poorly made, as far as its reliability is concerned.
I know that you love Microsoft and the 360 more than your own life (if this line doesn't give you a hint as to the levels of fanboyism you are approaching, nothing will), but you'll just have to deal with this fact: As a piece of electronics, the PS3 is far superior in design to the 360.
ps3s hardware is very impressive, especially compared to 360, but 360 doesnt suck, i dont know why im even taking part in this qj.net fanboyism
That's amazing! Haha I love the fact that when it was freezing cold the problem that occurred was due to the cord basically freezing over, heh the PS3 was fine. The XBOX360 would have RROD'd in the first and third tests in no time, and who knows what it would have done once 50F turned into 10F and lower??
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do the exact same tests with a wii and 360 please and see how those two do
Uhh.. the 360 flakes out under normal play conditions, for get extreme temperatures.
it will spark flames that you can't control you know
it will spark flames you can't control you know
They can but unfortunately the 360 wouldn't last the first test let alone 5 minutes.
The wii is a Perfected design as well, since its made from japan who cares more for system than MS.
The cold test isn't a problem.
My modded 360 would hang in the heat no problem. I'd say the GPU temp wouldn't get past 70 degrees C.
The new improved 360 would do really good too, but it's hard to say who would win because I don't know how much less heat the new chips put out. I demand a test with the new 360!
You shouldn't have to mod your system, that's the point you tool.
Guess what, a modded Civic can beat a Ferrari. Guess what else...it's still a Civic.
" The cold test isn't a problem."
Possibly, although I wouldn't bet on it.
"My modded 360 would hang in the heat no problem."
And therein lies the real test. A system shouldn't have to be modded to death just to keep it working.
"The new improved 360 would do really good too"
Which improved 360 are you talking about? The Elite? The Elite has the SAME DESIGN FLAWS as the Core and Premium, so stop pulling that improved sh*t out of your ass.
This is what's different in the "not-so-improved" Elite:
- A tacked-on additional heatsink over the GPU, just barely clearing the capacitors
- Some glue or resin to hold the CPU and GPU in place (Well, so much for improved. I think they opted for modded as well - lol )
- A slightly-less-hard paste to hold the heat sinks
- Some thinner capacitors used
- A surface-mount connection for the HDMI
- A slightly different DVD drive
So let's see what they did to reduce the heating problems: additional tacked-on heatsink, heatsinks which are not so tightly held in place, and oh yes, GLUE. Improved model my ass! And buddy, this model seems to be having the same problems as Core and Premium. So stop chanting your patently false "improved" mantra, will you?
http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/
The improved XBOX 360 I'm refering to is the models with new 65nm "falcon" chips. The elite had improved reliabilty, but not that much.
65nm chips are coming (may already be making it to production.) This will greatly reduce the 360's heat generation in the first place (PS3 still uses 90nm chips.)
The epoxy helps keep the chips attached to the board. Not really a big fix in itself, but it helps. This was the difference between the elite and others (before the premium added HDMI.) The larger heatsinks in newer models of course help remove heat. The new 65nm chips reduce heat and lower costs. The 3 fixes combined make a very good fix for the overheating.
MS is silent on when the fixes are being implemented because they don't want people to return working consoles because they think there's something wrong with them. I guess if you play an older model in a sauna then you may need to send it back.
That's all great Mister Common Sense, but till these are widespread, and the issues have ceased...it isn't really worth mentioning. For once put your fanboy attitude aside and admit the product was produced in an inferior way and they're only now correcting it.
You shouldn't have to mod your console. That's amazing yours still works...but guess what, you had to put more work into it than it's really worth and you shouldn't have to do any of it in the first place. Bash Sony for their software lineup all you want, but they put they very seriously and carefully crafted the hardware.
I guess we shouldn't be surprised, Sony has always been a hardware company, MS a software company. Imagine if they could team up...now that'd be something.
"new 65nm 'falcon' chips"
- I do know about the Falcon chips which are "supposed to" fix everything. With regard to this, let me say something in the same vein that you are fond of using when mentioning the PS3's future software lineup: These chips are NOT OUT YET, and so you don't know whether these will truly fix the problem. So until then, you CANNOT SAY THE 360 HARDWARE HAS BEEN IMPROVED. And although PS3 uses 90 mm chips, it doesn't have the same overheating problems, does it?
"The larger heatsinks in newer models"
- As far as I know, an additional heatsink has been tacked on to the 360. The other heatsinks are the SAME SIZE as they originally were. And, unless you are privy to workings of the 360's Design Department, you are in NO position to state that bigger or better designed heatsinks are going to be included in the models that will come out later this year. Also, some major Design Flaws in the 360 that have to do with the heating are the Cooling Fans - there are just 2 fans sitting at the back of the case pulling hot air through a theoretical 'tunnel' - this tunnel, however, is blocked by part of the metal case.
When these alleged "improved" models come out, and IF they manage to solve the 360's overheating problems, then you can go ahead and say that the 360's design is improved. Until then, the 360's hardware design (concerning cooling) will remain shoddy.
LOL Falcon chips, so your hoping those will back your pathetic argument wow. You do know its not out yet right.
I hope these new chips makes the system flawed further so it would shut you up permanently
Yeah, MS doesn't want to fix the 360.
They would just rather spend one billion dollars a year fixing them, not investing on new chips that run cooler (preventing overheating) and are cheaper to make.
I'm done with this pointless argument with people who don't listen to reason.
Would it make any sense NOT to use the new chips?
Even sony wants to use 65nm chips in the PS3 eventually. They are cheaper, run cooler, and use less power.
"people who don't listen to reason."
You know, that description fits you completely. If you have even a smidgen of common sense, you will know I'm right.
they should try it with 360 and see how many times they can get it to explode past 2 hours in a sauna
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it seems that the site just went dead..
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hacked by microsoft to sell more 360's
i dunno, i live in socal where the temp is around constant 97 degrees or something.
and i've kept my console running for as long as 3days straight once.
Nobody believes you
u must of got through about 100 xboxs by now then. u get the rod in 10 degrees caus microsoft *****ed up
97 may be the temperture...outside. but houses usually have insulation and AC. go to your thermastat and check what the temperture in your house it. its probably no more than 70~
Of course the PS3 did well. It is the best. Xbreaks360 is already known to fail in regular comfortable human temperature and anywhere outside it is suicide.
Putting your console in extreme coldness, won't really effect anything anyways, it's pointless.
yay, you're an idiot!
Yea it's a weird test, but I think they were seeing if condensation would mess up the console. But man, I see the PS3's end point is 64 hours at 110*F. I'll have to remember to put a fan on mine next time it reaches 110* here and I wanna marathon a long-ass RPG.
never say that to a overclocker
check this out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid+506873430516227655
its a 2.6Ghz overclocked to 5.225Ghz using liquid nitrogen
I leave my PS3 on for days at a time for F@H, I already had faith that the system would withstand something like this, but I never would have tried to do this myself. I was able to leave my PS2 for days at a time as well, same with the original PlayStation (not so much anymore though; 6-8 years into its life it started to show its age and started to skip on FMVs). Both were launch systems.
im kinda wary of leaving my ps3 on when im out of the house. i heard a story on here a while back that a ps3 caused a house fire.
...if you were lucky. I went though 2 of them, and after about 3 months it, it would start skipping regularly. After about a year, it got so bad I couldn't even play any games.
My ps1 still works like a charm. I still have the controller that came with it too, lol. The controller has taken quite a beating but still works. My love for sony's durability came about with the ps2. That thing has been through more than anyone's. People broke into my house and stole it, but luckily the cops came so when they were driving away they threw it out the window to hide the evidence, it landed in a ditch and they were driving about 40 mph when they threw it. It still works to this day, I play guitar hero on it for hours on end. Oh btw, I bought it less than a month after its launch :)
If you're thinking of the story I'm thinking of, that was proven fake lol.
So now I can rest easy knowing that I can leave my ps3 on for a month straight with a game on pause or bring it with me to the gym and leave it on in the sauna while i'm relaxing. You guys should check to see if its waterproof.. go on.. check.. if your really this dedicated to your systems immortality then dunk it in a pool of water and lets see if it sinks or swims.
What else will you guys come up with to make the time go by easier till you start getting decent games?
You sound mad dude. Why are you upset that they're testing out the console? It's not your console. There are good games that are out for PS3, or you could download some PSN games. Every new console takes time for more games to come out.
360 would've destroyed thw world!
too ok : ur just mad cause ur system sucks balls and least we're in a ps3 forum so go suck on ur blowbox360 u might have more games at the moment but at least ps3 plays their game worry free
actually i just bought ninja guidan sigma and ive had a ps3 since last december. I just dont see the point in this and I see that it only adds gas to the fire. I mean, do you guys ever actually play video games or are you just part time console debaters? Has the whole fuc|
read it :"108 hours alternating between playing video games"
That's Aoxomoron ur talking to (she is "ok"). Arguing with her is like arguing with a brick (except the brick is probably smarter)
actually i just bought ninja guidan sigma and ive had a ps3 since last december. I just dont see the point in this and I see that it only adds gas to the fire. I mean, do you guys ever actually play video games or are you just part time console debaters? Has the whole world gone complete mad? Is all thats left to life just debating over material goods?
read it:"108 hours alternating between playing video games"
actually i just bought ninja guidan sigma and ive had a ps3 since last december. I just dont see the point in this and I see that it only adds gas to the fire. I mean, do you guys ever actually play video games or are you just part time console debaters? Has the whole world gone complete mad? Is all thats left to life just debating over material goods?
awww i guess if i want a console that can cook an egg i should get the 360...
and they call the ps3 a george foreman grill...
I like eggs
Thoese people had the time to watch the PS3 for all that time.
a job, heard of it?
the PS3 is worth the money right there! thats where all of m $600 went to, "sony innovation" something the Bill gates jondra lack. so instead they copy every one... hence Microsoft windows vista and Mac os x...
this generation can be made
into a very good movie franchise...
from the get go we have the XBox 360 and so the movie will be called The Fellowship Of The Ring.
then things started to heat up in the second instalment and the plot and dilemmas starts to unfold so now we have the sequel called XBox 360- The Two Towels.
and then finally the ending to end all endings.. the third movie comes out with the PS3 charging in fighting thru all the odds and proving that it is still the real deal and not a pretend wannabe and thus we have the third blockbuster PS3- The Return Of The King.
Lol man so true
i wasn't joking man... they pitched the project to Warners!!! :)
good you liked the post!! i wasn't actually laughing when i typed it.
i was actually laughing when i typed it.
A little corny, but funny nonetheless
Wow I feel stupider...
And sick....
[Retching]
[Vomiting]
Now try this: If you're going to TRY to be funny, and on top of it act like it was really funny, make sure it's FUNNY NOT INCREDIBLY STUPID!!!!!
In the end, you will look less stupid.
hellraiser can't take it when someone is saying smack about his beloved 360.
See the subject ^^^ what have you got to say about that???
shiiit y dont they jus give me a ps3 instead of wastin one like that
they didnt waste it.... it still works
you are so wrong, the elite will hold it out for some time but eventually it will suck ass. Microsoft should keep their business focused on computers
The 360 has a rough 33% failure rate. That is a known fact. The elite's failure rate is tottally unknown due to the low to non-existant frequency.
The PS3's at major retailers (the ones stuck behind some glass) have a pretty high freeze rate. More often then not, i find them frozen when i go to places like walmart and target. Its not invincible.
The PS3 is an amazing bit of hardware, but does it really matter if it will still play at 0 degrees? At 120 degrees? 99.5% of gamers play in a "family room" setting.
Despite the fanboy flamewar that will always continue, keep in mind that if one system didn't exist the other would ruin console gaming. With no competition what would stop them?
Im a die hard 360 fan, and ive never had an issue with my 360. I also have a ps3 and never had an issue with that. I don't see any difference in graphics quality on my 37" hdtv b/w either system. What i do see is faster loading with the 360 but thats it.
So why is it everyone feels the need to flame everything?
I wouldn't play either of the consoles on the sun nor in the freezer, so i'm not whooped.
What I'm enjoying is the speculation that an Xbox wouldn't survive those conditions. Its a games console, not an astronaught. All I care about it playing games on it, in my room, at room temperature. Prattle on about how the PS3 is king and all the rest, but really, be honest to yourself, what does this prove about them as games consoles?
First of all I really do know how to spell astronaut! They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery, so why don't I feel flattered?
One way to kill a PS3 is duct tape the vents to keep dust from getting inside.
is that how you modded your crap-box?
They should start a Pimp My Ride for Xbox's. Paint em colors, cut holes in them, strap crap to them, but never actually mod the garbage thats about to break down under the hood...
Even when I make jokes I think even PS3 fans can laugh at I still get the usual dumbass responses.
Should I go back to bashing the PS3 and insulting fantards again?
u should work on your jokes, as they aren't funny. Also most people hate u already, so u should probably change ur name...
Mister (Lack of) Common Sense can't take jokes back.
Sorry, but you've killed your credibility on here. Get used to people being offended by whatever garbage you spew.
"Should I go back to bashing the PS3 and insulting fantards again?"
When did you EVER stop? As for the name-calling (am referring to your use of the term 'fantards'), what did you think you were?
Like any of you are giving CS a reason to stop. I think he was refering to that one guy on the blu ray forums that though it would keep dust from getting inside and it failed.
You idiots are laughing at lord of the rings the two towels.
A fantard is a retarded fanboy by definition. So I don't think common sense is a fantard.
Actually that was pretty funny.
The duct tape one gets extra points because of irony. I mean come on.. Sure its great for everything, but its tailor made for fixing ventilation problems.
I guess we've got to many little kiddies on here who don't have enough vocabulary to understand..
"So I don't think common sense is a fantard."
Sure you don't. He is a PS3-basher and praises 360 even when no praise is warranted or asked for. As such, and as a 360 fanboy, of course you don't think so.
This Mister Common Sense... hmm I really don't think I can say anything to him... he would'nt get it anyway. I myself have always bought Sony brands and they work. MS is an okay company. Yes they did have some better games at release then PS3, yes it came out sooner and at a cheaper price than PS3, yes the REM song for gears of war did make me want to buy an Xbox360, but then I came to notice this is the same company that made Windows.... and we all know how "well" windows runs... oh wait it doesn't. Windows OS was bought from some guy that lived in his mom's basement and ever sense they just keep tacking on more usless ***** to it, much like the tacked heat sinks of your ELITE 360. It really doesn't improve anything. Eventually Windows removed the Blue Screen of Death that is similar to the Ring of Death on 360. But they didn't fix the problem... they just modded the system so that screen doesn't appear... So when MCS says the new ELITE has no Ring of Death screen it will most likely be true because they removed that screen from appearing. This flaming is all immature but people need to think about it more clearly. Yes you're more likely to defend whatever unit you went with or have better games for but if you want to "Debate" then use some rational and "common sense." Thanks that's all I have to say.
next test: 108 hours on underwater! lol
i appriciate that joke coz i remember that post!!! lol!!
to those who dont remember it here goes!!
someone posted a thread that their friends ps3 broke and he couldnt get it to work! when the person went to his friends, he found that he had wrapped duct tape all over his ps3's air vents to stop dust getting into it thinking he was protecting his investment!!!
but u can't blame folk for thinking you were being sh1tty though, mcs, you have ruffled feathers here in your time!!!
And yet he still come on the ps3 forums. I guess nothing new is on the xbox forums so he comes here.
the only way to kill a ps3 is to stick the ashamed micro$oft brand on it instead of SONY. It would explode like a nuclear bomb.
That would just mean they now make games for it.
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listen dudes, 360 would never beat PS3. This is not meant to be, don't you understand?
Sigh, can't people understand how much of a limitation of without a large storage optical media for the 360 can be? Had they include an internal HD-DVD rom this wouldn't have happened, all 360 has over PS3 is the unified memory and that had been worked around for the PS3...whatever...if people want to believe hardware wise PS3 sucks they can, but we all know the truth very well...
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