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by Dougie321 - 2008-02-04 |
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» WOW!
holy sh*t dude! I really don't like that the ps3 has to install games sometimes to play them, and this just blows the whole thing out of proportion. What will happen when a ps3 owners game colection gets real big and they dont have enough space to install a new games because of old game data like dmc4. Thats one big thing I don't like about the ps3, but then again it is faster and quieter than the 360.
holy sh*t dude! I really don't like that the ps3 has to install games sometimes to play them, and this just blows the whole thing out of proportion. What will happen when a ps3 owners game colection gets real big and they dont have enough space to install a new games because of old game data like dmc4. Thats one big thing I don't like about the ps3, but then again it is faster and quieter than the 360.
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Re: ~~ - 2008-02-04 |
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» ~~
You can always delete the data to make room for new data...
You can always delete the data to make room for new data...
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Re: Apu - 2008-02-04 |
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» Um
Thats why most PS3 Owner upgrade their hard drives 120+ is the range most PS3 owners aim for.
Thats why most PS3 Owner upgrade their hard drives 120+ is the range most PS3 owners aim for.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Most?
A small number of the hardcore gamers perhaps, but definately not *most* PS3 owners Apu. :)
A small number of the hardcore gamers perhaps, but definately not *most* PS3 owners Apu. :)
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Agreed. I doubt 1% of PS3 owners have upgraded their HDD.
Agreed. I doubt 1% of PS3 owners have upgraded their HDD.
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Re: Apu - 2008-02-04 |
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» Um
Make a poll.
Make a poll.
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Re: Quixand - 2008-02-04 |
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» it's not all about load times
from IGN:
"Nero ends up pursuing Dante for a fair chunk of the game, while Kyrie is held captive and we, as players, slowly try to piece together the story (a continuation of Devil May Cry 2). For what it's worth, the PS3 version allows you to install a large portion of the game onto the hard drive, during which you'll be entertained with a decent looping recap of the story. Handy."
this is very uselful to those that have missed the previous instalments of the series, like myself.
from IGN:
"Nero ends up pursuing Dante for a fair chunk of the game, while Kyrie is held captive and we, as players, slowly try to piece together the story (a continuation of Devil May Cry 2). For what it's worth, the PS3 version allows you to install a large portion of the game onto the hard drive, during which you'll be entertained with a decent looping recap of the story. Handy."
this is very uselful to those that have missed the previous instalments of the series, like myself.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2008-02-04 |
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» I have to agree with dougie...
but I like how you guys say "you can always delete data" and wait another 30 mins while the game installs, when really all you wanted to do was get a quick fix of an old game....
Not to mention it's just a pain in the ass deciding which game you want to delete, which to keep, yadda yadda....
Ahh well, so 360 users will be done the first level by the time PS3 users are done installing.....good job blu-ray.....I really hope Sony releases a 4X version of the PS3...
but I like how you guys say "you can always delete data" and wait another 30 mins while the game installs, when really all you wanted to do was get a quick fix of an old game....
Not to mention it's just a pain in the ass deciding which game you want to delete, which to keep, yadda yadda....
Ahh well, so 360 users will be done the first level by the time PS3 users are done installing.....good job blu-ray.....I really hope Sony releases a 4X version of the PS3...
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Re: xche78x - 2008-02-05 |
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» idiot alert
does 20 minutes of install hurt or kill you?
does 5gb of HDD that important that you cannot give it temporarily to a game that you just recently bought because you wanna play it?
have you ever seen a full pledge PC game, ex Lost Planet, its eats way more HDD space, it install way longer and pretty much all 2007 up to present full fledge games does this on PC.
i think you havent used the install option on games such as ridge racer7 and or the crappy Genji! guess what i did and it definitely improve the loading times. it goes the same for DMC4. now if you dont want install and faster loading get the 360 version then, who the hell is forcing you to do things you do not want? internet troller need to have more "proper" common sense.
i would rather have a 20 minutes install than a 2 minute interval during loading rooms and levels.
and pausing to load in the middle of the game is a very horrible design (thinking about oblivion on 360 vs ps3).
does 20 minutes of install hurt or kill you?
does 5gb of HDD that important that you cannot give it temporarily to a game that you just recently bought because you wanna play it?
have you ever seen a full pledge PC game, ex Lost Planet, its eats way more HDD space, it install way longer and pretty much all 2007 up to present full fledge games does this on PC.
i think you havent used the install option on games such as ridge racer7 and or the crappy Genji! guess what i did and it definitely improve the loading times. it goes the same for DMC4. now if you dont want install and faster loading get the 360 version then, who the hell is forcing you to do things you do not want? internet troller need to have more "proper" common sense.
i would rather have a 20 minutes install than a 2 minute interval during loading rooms and levels.
and pausing to load in the middle of the game is a very horrible design (thinking about oblivion on 360 vs ps3).
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by MisterAV - 2008-02-04 |
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» PS3 FASTER
on ign it say PS3 is three time faster on DMC4 on loading times than 360 thanks to the install.
QUOTE:No, the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics. I've timed the game on both systems numerous times, and each time has been consistently in the PS3's favor. Transitions to gameplay from starting menus are relatively close, frequently within half a second or so of each other, but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3.
on ign it say PS3 is three time faster on DMC4 on loading times than 360 thanks to the install.
QUOTE:No, the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics. I've timed the game on both systems numerous times, and each time has been consistently in the PS3's favor. Transitions to gameplay from starting menus are relatively close, frequently within half a second or so of each other, but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3.
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-02-04 |
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» I agree with Mister Av
IGN is probably the most credible source for game reviews on the net there's no doubt about that. I saw their review and the guy clearly states that there are no proplems with compability or anything with the ps3 version on the contrary his states that the ps3 version has sharper texures and no lag and tear as opposed to the 360's less sharper texures, lag and tear (at times).
Now the thing with the instalment of part of the game he also clearly stated as Mister Av accuratly quoted above that the loading times are significantly faster than the 360 version...Now I dont think that IGN has a more powerfull ps3 now do they?
A game with DMC's specs has frequent loading times due to frequent transitions from area to area which are pretty small but littered with lots of AI and the protagonists huge arsenal and moves plus the modes which have to switch instantly hense the freaquent loading times (not to mentioned the immplied backround ,surroundings texures etc).
This leaves as with a frustrating amount of time waiting loading times. And let me tell you waiting on DMC games (I have them all)only makes things worse you need a fairly fast passed tembo in order to do well in you style combos or just get to point a to b without dying several times. So faster loading times are welcome here no matter the cost...
IGN is probably the most credible source for game reviews on the net there's no doubt about that. I saw their review and the guy clearly states that there are no proplems with compability or anything with the ps3 version on the contrary his states that the ps3 version has sharper texures and no lag and tear as opposed to the 360's less sharper texures, lag and tear (at times).
Now the thing with the instalment of part of the game he also clearly stated as Mister Av accuratly quoted above that the loading times are significantly faster than the 360 version...Now I dont think that IGN has a more powerfull ps3 now do they?
A game with DMC's specs has frequent loading times due to frequent transitions from area to area which are pretty small but littered with lots of AI and the protagonists huge arsenal and moves plus the modes which have to switch instantly hense the freaquent loading times (not to mentioned the immplied backround ,surroundings texures etc).
This leaves as with a frustrating amount of time waiting loading times. And let me tell you waiting on DMC games (I have them all)only makes things worse you need a fairly fast passed tembo in order to do well in you style combos or just get to point a to b without dying several times. So faster loading times are welcome here no matter the cost...
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Give some figures MisterAV
Comments like those of IGN aren't really helpful, whereas CVG give exact figures to the loading times they've measured.
Rather than estimates, what were the actually times when you found the 360 load times to be three times that of the PS3?
(BTW, I'm not questioning you, I just think numbers are more useful than perceived estimates).
Comments like those of IGN aren't really helpful, whereas CVG give exact figures to the loading times they've measured.
Rather than estimates, what were the actually times when you found the 360 load times to be three times that of the PS3?
(BTW, I'm not questioning you, I just think numbers are more useful than perceived estimates).
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» I see, that was from IGN, not you.
Ok, so you can't provide the load times, but CVG provide exact numbers, and I'd rather go with those over general estimates (since actual figures can be proven true or false).
Ok, so you can't provide the load times, but CVG provide exact numbers, and I'd rather go with those over general estimates (since actual figures can be proven true or false).
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Come now Constantinecy. You're seeing what you want to see :)
You said "... that the ps3 version has sharper texures and no lag and tear as opposed to the 360's less sharper texures, lag and tear (at times)."
Here's what he actually says;
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times. The PS3 can be a wee bit darker during some scenes, though. Both systems show off a certain amount of render passing that pops into focus on sweeping vista shots, but they occur at the same time on each system and are quickly dismissed. However, observing these differences will only come via frame-by-frame analysis of each game side-by-side. Even then, you're still receiving an incredible visual experience."
Nothing was even mentioned of the textures.
So, he said DMC4 edges the 360 version NOT in the gamplay department, NOT in the visual department, but ONLY in the load times, and that's where I think more clarification is needed on exactly what the load times are at certain points in the game.
You said "... that the ps3 version has sharper texures and no lag and tear as opposed to the 360's less sharper texures, lag and tear (at times)."
Here's what he actually says;
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times. The PS3 can be a wee bit darker during some scenes, though. Both systems show off a certain amount of render passing that pops into focus on sweeping vista shots, but they occur at the same time on each system and are quickly dismissed. However, observing these differences will only come via frame-by-frame analysis of each game side-by-side. Even then, you're still receiving an incredible visual experience."
Nothing was even mentioned of the textures.
So, he said DMC4 edges the 360 version NOT in the gamplay department, NOT in the visual department, but ONLY in the load times, and that's where I think more clarification is needed on exactly what the load times are at certain points in the game.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-04 |
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» Re: Games4James
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times."
Isn't a cutscene a visual department? I mean its not gameplay but that dosn't mean its not the visuals. I don't see anything in there where he says its only in load times.
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times."
Isn't a cutscene a visual department? I mean its not gameplay but that dosn't mean its not the visuals. I don't see anything in there where he says its only in load times.
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-02-04 |
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» games4 james
Please watch the video review. My comment was based on the video review what you quote is the writen review... (I know it is very strange when you watch it you'll know what I am talking abou )
I wont arque with you because that is a mistake on IGNs part. Still It may seem that I emphasise on the graphics but thats not it I only wantend to say that I dont mind giving 5 gigs to this game in exchange to faster loading times as for me is very usefull as to the whole expirience from the game :)
Please watch the video review. My comment was based on the video review what you quote is the writen review... (I know it is very strange when you watch it you'll know what I am talking abou )
I wont arque with you because that is a mistake on IGNs part. Still It may seem that I emphasise on the graphics but thats not it I only wantend to say that I dont mind giving 5 gigs to this game in exchange to faster loading times as for me is very usefull as to the whole expirience from the game :)
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Read it again Eclipze
From the IGN review;
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/849/849246p4.html
"Like most multi-console games, any review would inevitably have to come down to which system is better, and for this instance, the PS3 winds up winning out just slightly."
So, in which way does the PS3 end up winning slightly?
"It's not in the gameplay department, because DMC4 plays the same regardless of which system that you play on.... Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible.... No, the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics."
That seems very clear to me Eclipze. :)
And thanks Constantinecy, I'm about to watch the video review now.
From the IGN review;
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/849/849246p4.html
"Like most multi-console games, any review would inevitably have to come down to which system is better, and for this instance, the PS3 winds up winning out just slightly."
So, in which way does the PS3 end up winning slightly?
"It's not in the gameplay department, because DMC4 plays the same regardless of which system that you play on.... Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible.... No, the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics."
That seems very clear to me Eclipze. :)
And thanks Constantinecy, I'm about to watch the video review now.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Ok, watched it now, he doesn't say that Constantinecy.
What he says is consistant with some of the comments I've read regarding the demos, where the PS3 uses consecutive frames to add a blur effect which helps smoothen out the movement of fast moving enemies, which in turn can help to make some of the edges look sharper (but can also blur the textures a little). Without this effect, the textures on the 360 version tend to look slightly sharper, but the movement doesn't have that blur effect.
Anyway, his exact words from that IGN video review were "...you might also find a COUPLE of cleaner textures within the PS3 game...". That is not a statement that the PS3 version has sharper textures, but that *some* of them may look *cleaner* at times, which I expect is due to the motion blur.
But yeah, it's only minor, so let's not argue.
And yes, 5 GBs is great for improved load times, but then again, the load times in DMC4 are far better than many games anyway, and so it's not really an issue on the 360, just a little slower.
What he says is consistant with some of the comments I've read regarding the demos, where the PS3 uses consecutive frames to add a blur effect which helps smoothen out the movement of fast moving enemies, which in turn can help to make some of the edges look sharper (but can also blur the textures a little). Without this effect, the textures on the 360 version tend to look slightly sharper, but the movement doesn't have that blur effect.
Anyway, his exact words from that IGN video review were "...you might also find a COUPLE of cleaner textures within the PS3 game...". That is not a statement that the PS3 version has sharper textures, but that *some* of them may look *cleaner* at times, which I expect is due to the motion blur.
But yeah, it's only minor, so let's not argue.
And yes, 5 GBs is great for improved load times, but then again, the load times in DMC4 are far better than many games anyway, and so it's not really an issue on the 360, just a little slower.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-04 |
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» Look at what I put
I was basing it on what YOU wrote down:
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times."
A cutscene is visuals and it says the characters on the 360 version has harder edges, isnt that somthing you see with your eyes? Yes it is, making it visuals (so it dosnt really make sense how at the start it says its not based on visuals then you point out somthing that has to do with visuals).
Just saying lol.. a cut scene is part of the visuals.
I was basing it on what YOU wrote down:
"Nor is it in the visual department, because visual issues are virtually negligible. For example, the 360 has some harder edges to some characters during cutscenes, and a little more screen tearing than the PS3 at times."
A cutscene is visuals and it says the characters on the 360 version has harder edges, isnt that somthing you see with your eyes? Yes it is, making it visuals (so it dosnt really make sense how at the start it says its not based on visuals then you point out somthing that has to do with visuals).
Just saying lol.. a cut scene is part of the visuals.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-05 |
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» Ok Eclipze
I think we've both picked enough nits for today. :)
I think we've both picked enough nits for today. :)
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-05 |
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» ok? lol
I'm not "picking nits", I'm just telling you that what you put down made no sense. What you said was contradicting itself.
I'm not "picking nits", I'm just telling you that what you put down made no sense. What you said was contradicting itself.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-05 |
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» Just one more little nit... sort of.
I guess it depends on how you read his statement and interpreted it. Perhaps I should have included the link for everyone to read the review for themselves, but since it was already stated that this was from IGN's DMC4 review, I assumed that wasn't really necessary. Oh well. :)
Me go now.
I guess it depends on how you read his statement and interpreted it. Perhaps I should have included the link for everyone to read the review for themselves, but since it was already stated that this was from IGN's DMC4 review, I assumed that wasn't really necessary. Oh well. :)
Me go now.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-05 |
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» Wait... I see what you're looking at now.
I've re-read my post and realised you're not reading it within the context it was written.
Constantinecy claimed the IGN reviewer said the PS3 version had sharper textures, therefore I posted section of that review which spoke about the graphical differences between both versions to show that nothing was ever said about the PS3 having sharper textures. So what he said wasn't true.
The reviewer gaves some cons about the graphics for both versions and says that whatever the differences they are negliable anyway, and so you cannot say one version is better than the other graphically.
My next paragraph was to show that contrary to Constantinecy's claim that IGN says DMC4 is better on the PS3 both visually and in load times, the reviewer actually says it is ONLY better because of the load times.
Again, read my post in context to what Constantinecy was saying, not in isolation, and then it should make sense (hopefully). :)
I've re-read my post and realised you're not reading it within the context it was written.
Constantinecy claimed the IGN reviewer said the PS3 version had sharper textures, therefore I posted section of that review which spoke about the graphical differences between both versions to show that nothing was ever said about the PS3 having sharper textures. So what he said wasn't true.
The reviewer gaves some cons about the graphics for both versions and says that whatever the differences they are negliable anyway, and so you cannot say one version is better than the other graphically.
My next paragraph was to show that contrary to Constantinecy's claim that IGN says DMC4 is better on the PS3 both visually and in load times, the reviewer actually says it is ONLY better because of the load times.
Again, read my post in context to what Constantinecy was saying, not in isolation, and then it should make sense (hopefully). :)
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by CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2008-02-04 |
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» Must Be A Port Then
It must be a port and not really optimized for the PS3. There are PS3 games that have little to no load times so that must be the real reason. Also at 5 Gigs I wouldn't dought that is the full game size. Many Playstation 3 exclusives are bigger than a duel layer dvd. Oh well. Devil May Cry 4 looks pretty badass so I guess i'll pick it up. I hope it is fairly long though.
It must be a port and not really optimized for the PS3. There are PS3 games that have little to no load times so that must be the real reason. Also at 5 Gigs I wouldn't dought that is the full game size. Many Playstation 3 exclusives are bigger than a duel layer dvd. Oh well. Devil May Cry 4 looks pretty badass so I guess i'll pick it up. I hope it is fairly long though.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» They are completely different types of games CHUCKING!
Last gen there were PS2 games with zero load times (including from Naughty Dog), but did that mean ALL PS2 games started having zero load times? Of course not, only a tiny minority of PS2 games (including exclusives optimized for the PS2!) could boast zero load times because the game design and structure made it possible.
This gen will be no different, some games will have zero load times where the design makes it possible and the devs aim for no load times, the rest will have load times, whether they are PS3 exclusive or not, or whether the developement led on the PS3 or not (BTW, didn't DMC4 lead on the PS3?).
That's just the way it is my friend. :)
Last gen there were PS2 games with zero load times (including from Naughty Dog), but did that mean ALL PS2 games started having zero load times? Of course not, only a tiny minority of PS2 games (including exclusives optimized for the PS2!) could boast zero load times because the game design and structure made it possible.
This gen will be no different, some games will have zero load times where the design makes it possible and the devs aim for no load times, the rest will have load times, whether they are PS3 exclusive or not, or whether the developement led on the PS3 or not (BTW, didn't DMC4 lead on the PS3?).
That's just the way it is my friend. :)
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-02-05 |
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» Ports
The truth is that the ported version will always be worse (either with insignificant issues like DMC4 has on the 360 or significant like... well if you have an EA multiplat game on the ps3 then you know what signficant means!)than the one which was on the lead console. The developers made it damn clear to us!!
The truth is that the ported version will always be worse (either with insignificant issues like DMC4 has on the 360 or significant like... well if you have an EA multiplat game on the ps3 then you know what signficant means!)than the one which was on the lead console. The developers made it damn clear to us!!
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by Mentality - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF????
Why would they do that, they aint got a clue obviously, they messed up somewhere.
Why would they do that, they aint got a clue obviously, they messed up somewhere.
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by killalot100 - 2008-02-04 |
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» wtf
qj sometimes doesn't get there facts strait but do u have to install it. not a big deal for me anyway because i play a lot of pc games.
qj sometimes doesn't get there facts strait but do u have to install it. not a big deal for me anyway because i play a lot of pc games.
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by ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Capcom has been pretty quiet about the issue"
That's because it's NOT an issue. DMC runs MUCH BETTER on the PS3 then on the 360.
Either way, I'll be getting this for PC!
However, it doesn't take 20 minutes to copy 5GB worth of data. I think that 20 minute figure is a bunch of bull.
"Capcom has been pretty quiet about the issue"
That's because it's NOT an issue. DMC runs MUCH BETTER on the PS3 then on the 360.
Either way, I'll be getting this for PC!
However, it doesn't take 20 minutes to copy 5GB worth of data. I think that 20 minute figure is a bunch of bull.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Ok
"DMC runs MUCH BETTER on the PS3 then on the 360."
The load times are a little better, but not enough to warrant CAPTIAL LETTERS. ;)
"However, it doesn't take 20 minutes to copy 5GB worth of data. I think that 20 minute figure is a bunch of bull."
I've read 20 minutes from a number of sources, so it seems to be true (they timed it remember).
Anyway, 5GB copied at the Blu-ray's speed of 9MB/s, would take over 9 minutes if you're taking about a solid block of data. But if quite a lot of seperate files are being copied (more likely), then the seek time is going to push the install time upwards, as will the need to 'unpack' data onto the HDD (if it does that).
Still, once again at least they've proved actual numbers, therefore it will be easily proven true or false very soon. :)
"DMC runs MUCH BETTER on the PS3 then on the 360."
The load times are a little better, but not enough to warrant CAPTIAL LETTERS. ;)
"However, it doesn't take 20 minutes to copy 5GB worth of data. I think that 20 minute figure is a bunch of bull."
I've read 20 minutes from a number of sources, so it seems to be true (they timed it remember).
Anyway, 5GB copied at the Blu-ray's speed of 9MB/s, would take over 9 minutes if you're taking about a solid block of data. But if quite a lot of seperate files are being copied (more likely), then the seek time is going to push the install time upwards, as will the need to 'unpack' data onto the HDD (if it does that).
Still, once again at least they've proved actual numbers, therefore it will be easily proven true or false very soon. :)
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
For me load times are more important then most other aspects. So yes, it WARRANTS CAPITAL LETTERS.
For me load times are more important then most other aspects. So yes, it WARRANTS CAPITAL LETTERS.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Oops, scratch that bit (I never said it...right? ;))
"I've read 20 minutes from a number of sources"
Sources which can all be traced back to CVG at the moment. Well so much for my arguement there then. :)
I guess we'll just have to wait for confirmation from other sources and gamers.
"I've read 20 minutes from a number of sources"
Sources which can all be traced back to CVG at the moment. Well so much for my arguement there then. :)
I guess we'll just have to wait for confirmation from other sources and gamers.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Wtf2
"For me load times are more important then most other aspects. So yes, it WARRANTS CAPITAL LETTERS."
STOP SHOUTING. :)
"For me load times are more important then most other aspects. So yes, it WARRANTS CAPITAL LETTERS."
STOP SHOUTING. :)
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
WHAT?
WHAT?
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by DNAgent - 2008-02-04 |
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» Install = No load times
The install time is so that you have NO LOADING TIMES. I would rather wait 20 minutes one time rather than about 15 seconds or so every other time. There was a video on Gametrailers of the training session where you learn the controls and you would learn some controls, it would load, a cutscene would happen, it would load again, then you would learn the other moves, then it would load, a cutscene would happen, then it would load again.
I would rather install the game and wait 20 minutes than get taken out of the action for a while just so it can load. People who buy this game will find it even more helpful if you plan on playing it more than once.
The install time is so that you have NO LOADING TIMES. I would rather wait 20 minutes one time rather than about 15 seconds or so every other time. There was a video on Gametrailers of the training session where you learn the controls and you would learn some controls, it would load, a cutscene would happen, it would load again, then you would learn the other moves, then it would load, a cutscene would happen, then it would load again.
I would rather install the game and wait 20 minutes than get taken out of the action for a while just so it can load. People who buy this game will find it even more helpful if you plan on playing it more than once.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» Shorter load times, not zero load times.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-05 |
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» :)
I have to smile at those who vote down posts which are factually correct and yet vote up those that are wrong.
Still, free(ish) speech and expressing opinions are some of the joys of forums. ;)
I have to smile at those who vote down posts which are factually correct and yet vote up those that are wrong.
Still, free(ish) speech and expressing opinions are some of the joys of forums. ;)
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by Apu - 2008-02-04 |
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» Too Bad
Too bad the game is only 640p. Oh well, I guess that I will wait for DMC5 when its exclusive to PS3 and truly make the game for the PS3.
Too bad the game is only 640p. Oh well, I guess that I will wait for DMC5 when its exclusive to PS3 and truly make the game for the PS3.
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-04 |
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» There's nothing stopping the PS3 running it higher...
...if it was capable of doing so. On the PC, you can set the resolution to whatever your graphics card is capable of. The same is true for devs choosing the resolution to run their games on the PS3 and 360.
So if it's 640p on both versions, then that's because 640p is the highest resolution both consoles could manage to run DMC4 at the framerate required. Increase the resolution on BOTH consoles and the framerate will fall.
...if it was capable of doing so. On the PC, you can set the resolution to whatever your graphics card is capable of. The same is true for devs choosing the resolution to run their games on the PS3 and 360.
So if it's 640p on both versions, then that's because 640p is the highest resolution both consoles could manage to run DMC4 at the framerate required. Increase the resolution on BOTH consoles and the framerate will fall.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
This is why I hate fake garbage news!!!
One site reported the wrong resolution then hundreds of blog sites parroted the same crap.
DMC4 runs at 720p!
This is why I hate fake garbage news!!!
One site reported the wrong resolution then hundreds of blog sites parroted the same crap.
DMC4 runs at 720p!
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Re: Games4James - 2008-02-05 |
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» 720p!
Thanks for the clarification ISOHaven.
I was going to check it out myself, but I didn't bother because it didn't make a difference to the point in my reply.
Thanks for the clarification ISOHaven.
I was going to check it out myself, but I didn't bother because it didn't make a difference to the point in my reply.
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by lilmetal - 2008-02-04 |
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» Oh well...
Whatever it takes to minimize load times.
Whatever it takes to minimize load times.
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by Mentality - 2008-02-04 |
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» From PS3Fanboy Review
The required installation of the game on PS3 is quite an annoyance, clocking in at about half an hour. Unfortunately, there are still visible load times in the game (although they are quite minimal, a second or two at most). The series retrospective that plays during the installation can be informative, and has some soothing music. We recommend grabbing dinner, and eating it while the game installs.
The required installation of the game on PS3 is quite an annoyance, clocking in at about half an hour. Unfortunately, there are still visible load times in the game (although they are quite minimal, a second or two at most). The series retrospective that plays during the installation can be informative, and has some soothing music. We recommend grabbing dinner, and eating it while the game installs.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Now we're up to a half hour. Interesting.
Now we're up to a half hour. Interesting.
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by Apu - 2008-02-04 |
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» WTF
WTF With All The WTF.
WTF With All The WTF.
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by alexi_666 - 2008-02-04 |
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» ...
@Dougie321
ps3 games don't have to install anything to make them play. the install is only to make dmc run faster. thats all... in fact, dmc is the only game to do this.
@Dougie321
ps3 games don't have to install anything to make them play. the install is only to make dmc run faster. thats all... in fact, dmc is the only game to do this.
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by platon - 2008-02-04 |
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» so stupid of Qj
DAH you install games, it's ALWAYS faster this way... Also, spending some install time is NOTHING to save the f***** loading screens!!!!!!! I wish mostorstorm had this ability! :'(
And finally, STOP SAYING IT LIKE IT'S BAD!!!! It's the best thing!!!! And ps: in korea, you can install one game on the x360 too!!!! And it's way faster for loading this way (N³ was the game (I don't remember the name, but it uses 3 n and it's like dynasty warriors games)) But M$ CANT use it in america nor europe nor japan since they release ONE model with NO HDD!!! So stop saying it's a curse, it's A BLESS! Loading times are the worst thing on earth... worst than wold wide famine (*joke*). I mean, the worst in games is when you have the time to see your watch and say: WHAT? Already 4 hours? Damn, my psychopathology exam is tomorrow! :'(, lol.
DAH you install games, it's ALWAYS faster this way... Also, spending some install time is NOTHING to save the f***** loading screens!!!!!!! I wish mostorstorm had this ability! :'(
And finally, STOP SAYING IT LIKE IT'S BAD!!!! It's the best thing!!!! And ps: in korea, you can install one game on the x360 too!!!! And it's way faster for loading this way (N³ was the game (I don't remember the name, but it uses 3 n and it's like dynasty warriors games)) But M$ CANT use it in america nor europe nor japan since they release ONE model with NO HDD!!! So stop saying it's a curse, it's A BLESS! Loading times are the worst thing on earth... worst than wold wide famine (*joke*). I mean, the worst in games is when you have the time to see your watch and say: WHAT? Already 4 hours? Damn, my psychopathology exam is tomorrow! :'(, lol.