Posted Jul 01, 2009 at 10:38PM by Glenn M.
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If the Wii can contribute to the treatment of Parkinson's disease, the PS3 too can contribute to healthcare. Nope, no motion-control health benefits here, just the power that the PS3 packs, which according to this bit of news, can be used to read x-rays. In the University Medical Center Groningen (UMCG) in the Netherlands, research is currently being geared towards the possibility of using Sony's PlayStation 3 in reading and reviewing x-rays. The gaming console would be used in extracting data, and the wait that comes with doing so in the usual method would be drastically reduced since the PS3 packs more power than the computers the hospital currently has. Students are now working on creating special programs for the PS3, and are expected to be ready at the end of the year. More on the PS3: |
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by Roopa132 - 2009-07-02 |
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» PS3 is healthy
So PS3 helps curing cancer (Folding at home/ Life with Playstation) and can read x-ray?
That's cool. Ok, I surely don't donate my PS3 to the hospital but I use Folding at Home regulary...
So PS3 helps curing cancer (Folding at home/ Life with Playstation) and can read x-ray?
That's cool. Ok, I surely don't donate my PS3 to the hospital but I use Folding at Home regulary...
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by vitorgatti - 2009-07-02 |
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» .
nice... PS3 is awesome :P
and wasn't PS2 prohibited to be sold in some countries because it can be used to "create" giant bombs?
nice... PS3 is awesome :P
and wasn't PS2 prohibited to be sold in some countries because it can be used to "create" giant bombs?
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Re: phiyuku - 2009-07-02 |
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» No I don't think it can be used
to create giant bombs. But I think Saddam Hussein imported a bunch of PS2s to build a supercomputer.
to create giant bombs. But I think Saddam Hussein imported a bunch of PS2s to build a supercomputer.
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Re: FreePlay - 2009-07-02 |
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» No.
Neither of those is true. It was originally held up for import in some countries because Sony attempted to classify it as a 'computer' rather than a video game system, because computers had lower import tariffs.
Neither of those is true. It was originally held up for import in some countries because Sony attempted to classify it as a 'computer' rather than a video game system, because computers had lower import tariffs.
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Re: Musev - 2009-07-02 |
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» ?
"and wasn't PS2 prohibited to be sold in some countries because it can be used to "create" giant bombs? "
Are you sure it wasn't the original xbox?
"and wasn't PS2 prohibited to be sold in some countries because it can be used to "create" giant bombs? "
Are you sure it wasn't the original xbox?
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Re: RavenSPe - 2009-07-02 |
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» Not sure if were talking about
the same thing here... but one concern over importing the PS2 was from the similarity in a computer chip used for guided missiles.
the same thing here... but one concern over importing the PS2 was from the similarity in a computer chip used for guided missiles.
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Re: phiyuku - 2009-07-02 |
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» ? What's this then
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID+21118
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID+21118
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Re: FearEvil19 - 2009-07-02 |
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» and that is
a broken link
a broken link
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Re: mr.x256 - 2009-07-03 |
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» PS2 BOMB
You have to change the "plus" sign in to an 'equals" sign.
Note. This info is years out of date.
You have to change the "plus" sign in to an 'equals" sign.
Note. This info is years out of date.
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by enigmaticdude - 2009-07-02 |
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» oh wow!!!
You don't see xbox's being used like this!!!
You don't see xbox's being used like this!!!
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Re: mupet0000 - 2009-07-02 |
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» mmm
Yeah you don't see this kind of thing on xbox's, I guess people are too busy playing games on it... Although this is cool, it's extremely pointless, I don't see any hospital really buying ps3s to look at xrays. This isn't helping the PS3 at all.
Yeah you don't see this kind of thing on xbox's, I guess people are too busy playing games on it... Although this is cool, it's extremely pointless, I don't see any hospital really buying ps3s to look at xrays. This isn't helping the PS3 at all.
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Re: Volomon - 2009-07-02 |
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» Uhh deeeerrr
If you read it, they said they were buying PS3s. So apparently they are.
It goes to prove that the PS3>Xbox360 in raw power. Every Xboxer still thinks in terms of ram or something simple that they can grasp. However when you compare the trillions of calculations that the PS3 can do to the millions that the Xbox can do you really start to realize the difference.
If you read it, they said they were buying PS3s. So apparently they are.
It goes to prove that the PS3>Xbox360 in raw power. Every Xboxer still thinks in terms of ram or something simple that they can grasp. However when you compare the trillions of calculations that the PS3 can do to the millions that the Xbox can do you really start to realize the difference.
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Re: JaXeRiR - 2009-07-02 |
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» I just rofled...
...At the amazing dumbness of your comments.
Okay, I acknowledge that the PS3 kicks 360's ass in raw power.
But as long as my 360 runs the games I want to play, I really, really don't give a flying f*ck about how powerful the processor is compared to the PS3.
Seriously, wtf.
...At the amazing dumbness of your comments.
Okay, I acknowledge that the PS3 kicks 360's ass in raw power.
But as long as my 360 runs the games I want to play, I really, really don't give a flying f*ck about how powerful the processor is compared to the PS3.
Seriously, wtf.
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Re: Freya - 2009-07-02 |
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» yeah...
and no one really asked. what they said are all facts. what you said is just you frustrated that the PS3>360.
and no one really asked. what they said are all facts. what you said is just you frustrated that the PS3>360.
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Re: PS34ME - 2009-07-02 |
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» @Volomon
it's not just about power.
they don't use the 360 for this kind of thing because you can't install another operating system on the console. it's because we can install linux on the ps3 that it's possible to put sony's console to alternative uses.
you're right that the ps3 has more raw power for calculations, but 360 has more raw power for general code. so if you could install linux on the 360, it would be faster for running general applications (about twice as fast maybe), but for anything that requires lots of calculations, like digital/mathematical processing or physics or ray-tracing or folding@home or analyzing x-rays etc, the ps3 would be faster (about twice as fast as the 360, so it's not trillions vs millions :-)).
it's not just about power.
they don't use the 360 for this kind of thing because you can't install another operating system on the console. it's because we can install linux on the ps3 that it's possible to put sony's console to alternative uses.
you're right that the ps3 has more raw power for calculations, but 360 has more raw power for general code. so if you could install linux on the 360, it would be faster for running general applications (about twice as fast maybe), but for anything that requires lots of calculations, like digital/mathematical processing or physics or ray-tracing or folding@home or analyzing x-rays etc, the ps3 would be faster (about twice as fast as the 360, so it's not trillions vs millions :-)).
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Re: Csyrah - 2009-07-02 |
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» I dont know...
I think its tough to say that an Xbox 360 can run general applications at twice the speed of a PS3. I mean, its usually based on what a program is optimized for. Even as users, I dont think we can completely say what a PS3 can/cant code better on because developers are still figureing it out itself. So just in my opinion, the PS3 does have the XDR RAM, and even though the 360 has 3 PPUs while the PS3 has 1 PPU + 8 SPEs instead, I think the PS3 has more potential for running applications faster in general then the 360 given that you take a single program and optimize it for both.
I think its tough to say that an Xbox 360 can run general applications at twice the speed of a PS3. I mean, its usually based on what a program is optimized for. Even as users, I dont think we can completely say what a PS3 can/cant code better on because developers are still figureing it out itself. So just in my opinion, the PS3 does have the XDR RAM, and even though the 360 has 3 PPUs while the PS3 has 1 PPU + 8 SPEs instead, I think the PS3 has more potential for running applications faster in general then the 360 given that you take a single program and optimize it for both.
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Re: phiyuku - 2009-07-02 |
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» Xbox has better
functions like that I can use not some hospital. In the Winter instead to turning up the heat I frag people online because my Xbox 360 is my personal space heater.
functions like that I can use not some hospital. In the Winter instead to turning up the heat I frag people online because my Xbox 360 is my personal space heater.
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Re: fearlubu - 2009-07-02 |
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» ohhh its not all about gaming
this may not seem much like a breatkthough, but this does come to show what the PS3 can do, perhaps apps shall start pouring for the PS3!!
@phiyuku: ahh a typical xbox FPS fan, still not tired of the mindless run-gunning?
this may not seem much like a breatkthough, but this does come to show what the PS3 can do, perhaps apps shall start pouring for the PS3!!
@phiyuku: ahh a typical xbox FPS fan, still not tired of the mindless run-gunning?
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Re: Specht - 2009-07-02 |
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» This doesn't help any fanboyish claims...
What hospitals do with a PS3 doesn't make the PS3 any better than Xbox 360.
The hospitals are really just saving money buying PS3 clusters over IBM Blades which isn't really newsworthy other than just cool and giving Sony's gaming division more publicity.
I'd go into the actual differences of the Cell B.E. and a triple-core x86 processor more in-depth than what any random person can read on Wikipedia, but I think I should save that rant for another, perhaps more sober, night.
What hospitals do with a PS3 doesn't make the PS3 any better than Xbox 360.
The hospitals are really just saving money buying PS3 clusters over IBM Blades which isn't really newsworthy other than just cool and giving Sony's gaming division more publicity.
I'd go into the actual differences of the Cell B.E. and a triple-core x86 processor more in-depth than what any random person can read on Wikipedia, but I think I should save that rant for another, perhaps more sober, night.
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by PS34ME - 2009-07-03 |
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» Not quite Csyrah
"even though the 360 has 3 PPUs while the PS3 has 1 PPU + 8 SPEs"
that's the point Csyrah. the cores of both CPUs are based around the same PowerPC technology, but the 360 has 3 PPUs for running main code (i.e. non-arithmetic operations) compared to PS3's single PPU (both at 3.2Ghz). this will give the 360 the advantage for such code.
the SPEs are for maths only, just like the FPU in each 360 core, so that's 6 SPEs in the PS3 compared to 3 VMX units in the 360, giving the PS3 the advantage for maths.
the difficulty on the PS3 if not programming the PPU, there's no more to figure out that the 360's PPU (same code base), the difficulty is in getting the SPEs to do as much work as possible, lessening the load on the Cell's PPU, but this only applies to mathematical calculations. If there's no maths, then there's nothing for the SPEs to do (or the VMX units in the 360).
so unless your application has lots of maths, then the 360 will run the application faster than the PS3, and this will be seen more when running multiple applications.
"even though the 360 has 3 PPUs while the PS3 has 1 PPU + 8 SPEs"
that's the point Csyrah. the cores of both CPUs are based around the same PowerPC technology, but the 360 has 3 PPUs for running main code (i.e. non-arithmetic operations) compared to PS3's single PPU (both at 3.2Ghz). this will give the 360 the advantage for such code.
the SPEs are for maths only, just like the FPU in each 360 core, so that's 6 SPEs in the PS3 compared to 3 VMX units in the 360, giving the PS3 the advantage for maths.
the difficulty on the PS3 if not programming the PPU, there's no more to figure out that the 360's PPU (same code base), the difficulty is in getting the SPEs to do as much work as possible, lessening the load on the Cell's PPU, but this only applies to mathematical calculations. If there's no maths, then there's nothing for the SPEs to do (or the VMX units in the 360).
so unless your application has lots of maths, then the 360 will run the application faster than the PS3, and this will be seen more when running multiple applications.
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Re: Csyrah - 2009-07-03 |
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» ok
Thats cool. You seem pretty knowledgable on this stuff. But we can still probably disagree on one thing... I still stand by saying that the PS3 has 8 SPEs, and not 6. Why? because while one is disabled, and one is dedicated to the OS, I believe Sony could quickly enable that last one if it came to commercial use. Aside from that, thanks for the good information and insight. Your a smart guy
Thats cool. You seem pretty knowledgable on this stuff. But we can still probably disagree on one thing... I still stand by saying that the PS3 has 8 SPEs, and not 6. Why? because while one is disabled, and one is dedicated to the OS, I believe Sony could quickly enable that last one if it came to commercial use. Aside from that, thanks for the good information and insight. Your a smart guy
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Re: PS34ME - 2009-07-03 |
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» thanks for your kind words Csyrah
"I still stand by saying that the PS3 has 8 SPEs, and not 6. Why? because while one is disabled, and one is dedicated to the OS"
i mentioned 6 SPEs because that's what's available for games to use. the SPE used by the OS is not available for games to use, and the disabled SPE will never be used either, because many PS3s do not have a working 8th SPE.
when chips are manufactured, there are always faulty chips. for Cell, a small percent of the chips manufactured are perfect (1 PPE + 8 working SPEs), and these chips are used in places such as IBM's blade servers. this also makes them the most expensive Cell chips.
however a large percentage of Cell chips made have a fault in one of the SPEs (doesn't matter which one). so instead of throwing away these Cell chips, they put them to use in the PS3, making them perfect for the console and cheaper than Cell chips with 8 working SPEs.
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friends just arrived, got to go....cya :-)
"I still stand by saying that the PS3 has 8 SPEs, and not 6. Why? because while one is disabled, and one is dedicated to the OS"
i mentioned 6 SPEs because that's what's available for games to use. the SPE used by the OS is not available for games to use, and the disabled SPE will never be used either, because many PS3s do not have a working 8th SPE.
when chips are manufactured, there are always faulty chips. for Cell, a small percent of the chips manufactured are perfect (1 PPE + 8 working SPEs), and these chips are used in places such as IBM's blade servers. this also makes them the most expensive Cell chips.
however a large percentage of Cell chips made have a fault in one of the SPEs (doesn't matter which one). so instead of throwing away these Cell chips, they put them to use in the PS3, making them perfect for the console and cheaper than Cell chips with 8 working SPEs.
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by 02thinkfast02 - 2009-07-03 |
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» haha
jus imagine 360s in the hospitals, think of all the RRODS...
but cmon on who cares if ps3 can do x rays ,i just want to play games ,thats what they where designed for.not seeing if u broken u arm
jus imagine 360s in the hospitals, think of all the RRODS...
but cmon on who cares if ps3 can do x rays ,i just want to play games ,thats what they where designed for.not seeing if u broken u arm
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by mupet0000 - 2009-07-03 |
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» Whatever
Anyone here wanna read x-rays with their PS3? No.
Does it matter that a game console can read x-rays? No
It's way more important for the PS3 to be a game console not a PC.
Anyone here wanna read x-rays with their PS3? No.
Does it matter that a game console can read x-rays? No
It's way more important for the PS3 to be a game console not a PC.
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Re: Csyrah - 2009-07-03 |
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» idk...
I would have to say yes to both of those actually. Not for the purpose of specifically narrowing down to the PS3 being capable of reading Xrays, but the fact that once it gets opened up to new capabilities, then its potential is further maximized. One useless thing COULD lead to another great thing. Besides, it would be nice to play a PS3 while waiting in that boreing room for my doctor
I would have to say yes to both of those actually. Not for the purpose of specifically narrowing down to the PS3 being capable of reading Xrays, but the fact that once it gets opened up to new capabilities, then its potential is further maximized. One useless thing COULD lead to another great thing. Besides, it would be nice to play a PS3 while waiting in that boreing room for my doctor
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