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by Quixand - 2008-02-11 |
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» all the talk of
"those you are against the PS3 getting hacked don't know the potential of the PS3... i want to be able to do this and that and this and that and this and that"
when everybody knows it all boils down to playing back ups... sad really.
anyway you can't blame people for trying to not make themselves look cheap.
"those you are against the PS3 getting hacked don't know the potential of the PS3... i want to be able to do this and that and this and that and this and that"
when everybody knows it all boils down to playing back ups... sad really.
anyway you can't blame people for trying to not make themselves look cheap.
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Re: ballar360 - 2008-02-11 |
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» well man
i really hope they never hack the ps3 we have seen wat happend to the PSP...i mean comon if that happends to the PS3 then i guess its going down like the psp. but anywho they talk the talk and i hope they never walk the walk..im no hater but i dont want people to hack the ps3 because of the damage it will inflict on both sony and the game makers
i really hope they never hack the ps3 we have seen wat happend to the PSP...i mean comon if that happends to the PS3 then i guess its going down like the psp. but anywho they talk the talk and i hope they never walk the walk..im no hater but i dont want people to hack the ps3 because of the damage it will inflict on both sony and the game makers
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Re: Quixand - 2008-02-11 |
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» people don't care
anymore ballar360... bunch of selfish morons.
they constantly demand for more games and better games... constantly get on the developers for not doing more... whine about the smallest of glitches or inconveniences (like game installation)... cry about features they want...
when the only productive thing that they will ever contribute (and that is buying games in retail) to the industry in which they claim to love they want to take away... they want to play back ups.
so inspite of all the demanding and crying and whining at the end it is them (the pro hacking people) who are really doing nothing to benefit each component of the industry from the console manufacturers, the developers, the publishers, the game retailers etc....
they can claim that it enables people to do more other than play back ups... but in reality everybody knows this all boils down to playing back ups no matter what excuse they come up with.
anymore ballar360... bunch of selfish morons.
they constantly demand for more games and better games... constantly get on the developers for not doing more... whine about the smallest of glitches or inconveniences (like game installation)... cry about features they want...
when the only productive thing that they will ever contribute (and that is buying games in retail) to the industry in which they claim to love they want to take away... they want to play back ups.
so inspite of all the demanding and crying and whining at the end it is them (the pro hacking people) who are really doing nothing to benefit each component of the industry from the console manufacturers, the developers, the publishers, the game retailers etc....
they can claim that it enables people to do more other than play back ups... but in reality everybody knows this all boils down to playing back ups no matter what excuse they come up with.
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Re: ballar360 - 2008-02-11 |
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» yes sir
sir..i mean yeah instead of us trying to help the developers to create better games we are just whining ohh i want this..it seems that alot of people are losing respect for the developers and whining like little b---ches. but anywho i will continue on supporting sony ..i mean hey my 60 gig ps3 was around 500 to 600.. and im not gonna risk bricking it at all
sir..i mean yeah instead of us trying to help the developers to create better games we are just whining ohh i want this..it seems that alot of people are losing respect for the developers and whining like little b---ches. but anywho i will continue on supporting sony ..i mean hey my 60 gig ps3 was around 500 to 600.. and im not gonna risk bricking it at all
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Xbox was hacked, 360 was hacked, PC was hacked, Wii was hacked, PS1 was hacked, PS2 was hacked....all VERY STRONG systems.
I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt.
If the PSP is dying then piracy had NOTHING to do with it!
Xbox was hacked, 360 was hacked, PC was hacked, Wii was hacked, PS1 was hacked, PS2 was hacked....all VERY STRONG systems.
I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt.
If the PSP is dying then piracy had NOTHING to do with it!
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Re: theaceoffire - 2008-02-12 |
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» No, not quite.
I want emulators darn it. Give me Donkey Kong!
I want emulators darn it. Give me Donkey Kong!
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Re: ackeejag - 2008-02-13 |
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» aw geeze
i really wish they would stop trying to hack the ps3. this is the last thing this console needs. sure the xbox was hacked but it was already losing the race and it also stopped you from going on live. same for the 360. the wii was hacked but the majority of its user base doesnt know hot to or want to do that. the pc was hacked but as you can see that medium is almost dead. ps2 was hacked but by then nearly everyone had one and not many could go out and by plus install a flip magic.
if you want emulation then just play them on your pc that is probably 5 feet away from your ps3. i for one am not about to risk 500+ dollars so i can play a crappy homebrew game or an emulation i can do on my psp or pc, THAT ARE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM!
i really wish they would stop trying to hack the ps3. this is the last thing this console needs. sure the xbox was hacked but it was already losing the race and it also stopped you from going on live. same for the 360. the wii was hacked but the majority of its user base doesnt know hot to or want to do that. the pc was hacked but as you can see that medium is almost dead. ps2 was hacked but by then nearly everyone had one and not many could go out and by plus install a flip magic.
if you want emulation then just play them on your pc that is probably 5 feet away from your ps3. i for one am not about to risk 500+ dollars so i can play a crappy homebrew game or an emulation i can do on my psp or pc, THAT ARE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM!
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-13 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"sure the xbox was hacked but it was already losing the race and it also stopped you from going on live. same for the 360."
It does not stop you from going on live. You have to bounce back and forth. Also, a hack on the PS3 would also cause you to be careful going online.
"the wii was hacked but the majority of its user base doesnt know hot to or want to do that."
Same thing with the PS3! And the PSP for that matter.
"the pc was hacked but as you can see that medium is almost dead."
HAHAHA!!! In your DREAMS.
"ps2 was hacked but by then nearly everyone had one and not many could go out and by plus install a flip magic."
Do you even know what you are talking about? The PS2 was hacked early on. The first chip was 8 wires then 6. Then a no solder mod. You could BUY PS2's prehacked for a good price.
"if you want emulation then just play them on your pc that is probably 5 feet away from your ps3."
Probably not.
"i for one am not about to risk 500+ dollars so i can play a crappy homebrew game or an emulation i can do on my psp or pc"
Good for you.
"sure the xbox was hacked but it was already losing the race and it also stopped you from going on live. same for the 360."
It does not stop you from going on live. You have to bounce back and forth. Also, a hack on the PS3 would also cause you to be careful going online.
"the wii was hacked but the majority of its user base doesnt know hot to or want to do that."
Same thing with the PS3! And the PSP for that matter.
"the pc was hacked but as you can see that medium is almost dead."
HAHAHA!!! In your DREAMS.
"ps2 was hacked but by then nearly everyone had one and not many could go out and by plus install a flip magic."
Do you even know what you are talking about? The PS2 was hacked early on. The first chip was 8 wires then 6. Then a no solder mod. You could BUY PS2's prehacked for a good price.
"if you want emulation then just play them on your pc that is probably 5 feet away from your ps3."
Probably not.
"i for one am not about to risk 500+ dollars so i can play a crappy homebrew game or an emulation i can do on my psp or pc"
Good for you.
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Re: Djhg2000 - 3 days ago |
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» n00b...
If the PC's dead, how come it's still got the latest games with the best graphics?
And what do you mean hacked? We've been able to run our own code on the PC all the time, it doesn't need any hacks to do it!
Why don't you try linux on your PS3 and see for yourself why we need homebrew.
No, you don't need a hack for linux. :P
If the PC's dead, how come it's still got the latest games with the best graphics?
And what do you mean hacked? We've been able to run our own code on the PC all the time, it doesn't need any hacks to do it!
Why don't you try linux on your PS3 and see for yourself why we need homebrew.
No, you don't need a hack for linux. :P
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by UltimateIdiot911 - 2008-02-11 |
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» it's all good
i don't mind it getting hack, how many of us are willing to wait download 25+ gb for one game. it's just not practical. as for the psp, now that's different, the files are smaller
i don't mind it getting hack, how many of us are willing to wait download 25+ gb for one game. it's just not practical. as for the psp, now that's different, the files are smaller
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Re: ballar360 - 2008-02-11 |
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» yeah im sure
but there will always be idiots that will
but there will always be idiots that will
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Re: FireDragon - 2008-02-12 |
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» why not?
when ps2 was hacked, the same question was asked. how many of us are willing to wait download 4+ gb (dvd) for one game. ps1's different, the files are smaller (cd). network is getting faster and faster, in 25+ gb is not really a big deal now.
when ps2 was hacked, the same question was asked. how many of us are willing to wait download 4+ gb (dvd) for one game. ps1's different, the files are smaller (cd). network is getting faster and faster, in 25+ gb is not really a big deal now.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Not to mention, when the PS2 was hacked the PS2 remained a STRONG SYSTEM.
Any moron who thinks the PSP is the way it is because you can run pirated games on it, is very ignorant.
Xbox was hacked, 360 was hacked, PC was hacked....all VERY STRONG systems.
I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt.
Not to mention, when the PS2 was hacked the PS2 remained a STRONG SYSTEM.
Any moron who thinks the PSP is the way it is because you can run pirated games on it, is very ignorant.
Xbox was hacked, 360 was hacked, PC was hacked....all VERY STRONG systems.
I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-12 |
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» Iso
People are actually doing whats right, and you think thats wrong? Maybe your the one reading too much things on the internet because if you actually use your damn system for what its meant for then people wouldnt need to do all this hacking for games.
Just because OTHER systems got hacked and they were still strong dosnt mean its all fine and dandy for the PS3 to get hacked.
How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing.
People are actually doing whats right, and you think thats wrong? Maybe your the one reading too much things on the internet because if you actually use your damn system for what its meant for then people wouldnt need to do all this hacking for games.
Just because OTHER systems got hacked and they were still strong dosnt mean its all fine and dandy for the PS3 to get hacked.
How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
More ignorance from Eclipze_!
"People are actually doing whats right, and you think thats wrong?"
Nope, I never stated as such. This is more imaginary BS from Eclipze_.
"Just because OTHER systems got hacked and they were still strong dosnt mean its all fine and dandy for the PS3 to get hacked."
Yes it does! It proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that piracy DOES NOT harm a systems overall retail status
"How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing."
You'll have to explain yourself on this one. How am I doing "the cheap thing" by stating FACT about past console history? Get a clue bud!!!
More ignorance from Eclipze_!
"People are actually doing whats right, and you think thats wrong?"
Nope, I never stated as such. This is more imaginary BS from Eclipze_.
"Just because OTHER systems got hacked and they were still strong dosnt mean its all fine and dandy for the PS3 to get hacked."
Yes it does! It proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that piracy DOES NOT harm a systems overall retail status
"How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing."
You'll have to explain yourself on this one. How am I doing "the cheap thing" by stating FACT about past console history? Get a clue bud!!!
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-02-12 |
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» lol ok
"I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt."
So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap?? Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok, just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1, because the last time I checked this is a new day and age. Look at what happen to the psp, the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better.
"How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing."
You'll have to explain yourself on this one. How am I doing "the cheap thing" by stating FACT about past console history? Get a clue bud!!!"
Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for. People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free. Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money.
If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console, because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system.
"I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt."
So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap?? Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok, just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1, because the last time I checked this is a new day and age. Look at what happen to the psp, the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better.
"How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing."
You'll have to explain yourself on this one. How am I doing "the cheap thing" by stating FACT about past console history? Get a clue bud!!!"
Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for. People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free. Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money.
If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console, because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap??"
What the hell are you talking about? Are you even in this conversation?
"Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1"
No, idiot. You're supposed to educate yourself to understand that what OTHER people do with a system WILL NOT affect your experience.
", because the last time I checked this is a new day and age."
Good for you.
"Look at what happen to the psp"
Nothing happened! The PSP in itself is NOT a successful system. HALF OF ITS INTENT FAILED. UMD FAILED. The drive is so slow, it's the #1 cause of people ditching their PSP. Piracy did NOTHING to the PSP.
"the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better."
The PS3 is the same, the Xbox is the same, the PS2 is the same.....IT'S ALL THE SAME. How are you not getting this? Your main argument is that the PSP is not xbox or PS1 or PS2...it's a new age....well guess what! The PS3 is NOT the PSP either. Your own main argument works AGAINST YOU. You fail all around.
"Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for."
And? What the hell is your point here? Who CARES what the system was intended for. The bottom line is that what other people do with it DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.
"People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy"
Again, that has NOTHING to do with this conversation.
"and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free."
Good for you! Get pissed off all you want. IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.
"Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money."
This is where your ignorance shows. Do you have ANY CLUE how many people actually copy games for a SPECIFIC system instead of buying that game? That number is so ridiculously small it's moot.
"If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console"
Wow! You sure have all the answers don't ya! That comment here is about as worthless as it gets.
"because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system."
That's where you are wrong. This is NOT a leased system. It's a PURCHASED system. The only ammo Sony has is that it's a federal crime in the US to circumvent digital rights protection.
You want to know what I think is hilarious? People are going to do whatever they want to with the system. You obviously dislike that. But it's going to happen anyway regardless of how you feel about it..... that is so damn funny! HAHAHA!!!!!! Nothing you say will get you what you want. Live with that!
"So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap??"
What the hell are you talking about? Are you even in this conversation?
"Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1"
No, idiot. You're supposed to educate yourself to understand that what OTHER people do with a system WILL NOT affect your experience.
", because the last time I checked this is a new day and age."
Good for you.
"Look at what happen to the psp"
Nothing happened! The PSP in itself is NOT a successful system. HALF OF ITS INTENT FAILED. UMD FAILED. The drive is so slow, it's the #1 cause of people ditching their PSP. Piracy did NOTHING to the PSP.
"the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better."
The PS3 is the same, the Xbox is the same, the PS2 is the same.....IT'S ALL THE SAME. How are you not getting this? Your main argument is that the PSP is not xbox or PS1 or PS2...it's a new age....well guess what! The PS3 is NOT the PSP either. Your own main argument works AGAINST YOU. You fail all around.
"Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for."
And? What the hell is your point here? Who CARES what the system was intended for. The bottom line is that what other people do with it DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.
"People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy"
Again, that has NOTHING to do with this conversation.
"and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free."
Good for you! Get pissed off all you want. IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.
"Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money."
This is where your ignorance shows. Do you have ANY CLUE how many people actually copy games for a SPECIFIC system instead of buying that game? That number is so ridiculously small it's moot.
"If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console"
Wow! You sure have all the answers don't ya! That comment here is about as worthless as it gets.
"because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system."
That's where you are wrong. This is NOT a leased system. It's a PURCHASED system. The only ammo Sony has is that it's a federal crime in the US to circumvent digital rights protection.
You want to know what I think is hilarious? People are going to do whatever they want to with the system. You obviously dislike that. But it's going to happen anyway regardless of how you feel about it..... that is so damn funny! HAHAHA!!!!!! Nothing you say will get you what you want. Live with that!
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by KevOne - 2008-02-11 |
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» :(
i hope those hackers have fun playing single player games with themselves when sony bans their ps3's and disables their firmware updates :)
i hope they don't make custom firmwares :
i hope those hackers have fun playing single player games with themselves when sony bans their ps3's and disables their firmware updates :)
i hope they don't make custom firmwares :
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Re: ballar360 - 2008-02-12 |
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» truly
i must say that there is no way that sony will allow the full hacks and cfw for the ps3..its just to dangerous
i must say that there is no way that sony will allow the full hacks and cfw for the ps3..its just to dangerous
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Re: GHenrik - 2008-02-12 |
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» FW updates
Well, I'm scared like ***** to be banned from PSN, but I dont think they can stop FW updates to your console. You can still get the fw from pc and transfer it PS3.
Well, I'm scared like ***** to be banned from PSN, but I dont think they can stop FW updates to your console. You can still get the fw from pc and transfer it PS3.
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by Dustball - 2008-02-12 |
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» Yet another RUMOR from PS3news..
And besides, what you you rather have; the ability to play backups or online functionality? I mean Sony is going to fix any of these exploits anyway and those who choose not to update their firmware so they can continue using backups won't be able to access any online features whatsoever. I'd much rather buy my games legitimately and have access to all the features the console has to offer.
Aside from that aspect, it would be very difficult to use backups at all. First of all the PS3 uses a FAT file system so it can only have individual files of up to 4 GB. How many GOOD games do you think there are out there which are less than 4 GB? To get around this problem you would have to use removable storage and seeing how big the games are you would be filling up the removable storage pretty fast and the expenses could quickly build up. Secondly, most if not all internet service providers have a monthly bandwidth limit. So unless you have a $90/month plan you'll be exceeding that limit pretty quickly by downloading PS3 games. So say your monthly bandwidth limit is 60 GB. You download 3 to 4 games and exceed the limit. For every extra 1 GB you download over your bandwidth limit your internet service provider will charge around $5(of course this varies between internet service providers, but it's generally something around that). So lets see how this adds up. You exceed your limit and then you download 2 more 20 GB games in that month. In total that's 40 GB and what's 40 GB multiplied by $5? Hmm, $200? All these expenses when buying the games wouldn't cost much more and you would have features such as online content with upgraded firmware. So is pirating really worth it in the long run?
And besides, what you you rather have; the ability to play backups or online functionality? I mean Sony is going to fix any of these exploits anyway and those who choose not to update their firmware so they can continue using backups won't be able to access any online features whatsoever. I'd much rather buy my games legitimately and have access to all the features the console has to offer.
Aside from that aspect, it would be very difficult to use backups at all. First of all the PS3 uses a FAT file system so it can only have individual files of up to 4 GB. How many GOOD games do you think there are out there which are less than 4 GB? To get around this problem you would have to use removable storage and seeing how big the games are you would be filling up the removable storage pretty fast and the expenses could quickly build up. Secondly, most if not all internet service providers have a monthly bandwidth limit. So unless you have a $90/month plan you'll be exceeding that limit pretty quickly by downloading PS3 games. So say your monthly bandwidth limit is 60 GB. You download 3 to 4 games and exceed the limit. For every extra 1 GB you download over your bandwidth limit your internet service provider will charge around $5(of course this varies between internet service providers, but it's generally something around that). So lets see how this adds up. You exceed your limit and then you download 2 more 20 GB games in that month. In total that's 40 GB and what's 40 GB multiplied by $5? Hmm, $200? All these expenses when buying the games wouldn't cost much more and you would have features such as online content with upgraded firmware. So is pirating really worth it in the long run?
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Re: Koolaidsred1 - 2008-02-12 |
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I never udnerstood this bandwith thing so thanks for the explanation. I dont think i have a bandwith because if so my step father would have killed me since i download Gb's of data on a daily basis. Whether its HD movies or whatever i download. I don't like to be called a pirate(i know i am... i do not pirate games though) but i purchase atleast 70% of what i download. Im just saying i dont think i have a bandwith because i would have been brutally murdered by my step father because the bill would be like $364636346 lol And i do hope the ps3 is not hacked because just look what happened to the psp.....
I never udnerstood this bandwith thing so thanks for the explanation. I dont think i have a bandwith because if so my step father would have killed me since i download Gb's of data on a daily basis. Whether its HD movies or whatever i download. I don't like to be called a pirate(i know i am... i do not pirate games though) but i purchase atleast 70% of what i download. Im just saying i dont think i have a bandwith because i would have been brutally murdered by my step father because the bill would be like $364636346 lol And i do hope the ps3 is not hacked because just look what happened to the psp.....
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Re: Quixand - 2008-02-12 |
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» that's not always the case Koolaid
it differs from one provider to another... your stepdad must have an unlimited plan.
i do have something of the sort... mine is called unlimited cause no matter how much i download i won't have to pay a cent extra over my monthly plan... but the catch is once i go over 50GB for a certain month my speed will go down to dial up speed until the next month rolls on... but even so i can still use the internet and download as much as i want to without getting additional charge, my internet will just be slowed to dial up speed once i go over 50GB.
it differs from one provider to another... your stepdad must have an unlimited plan.
i do have something of the sort... mine is called unlimited cause no matter how much i download i won't have to pay a cent extra over my monthly plan... but the catch is once i go over 50GB for a certain month my speed will go down to dial up speed until the next month rolls on... but even so i can still use the internet and download as much as i want to without getting additional charge, my internet will just be slowed to dial up speed once i go over 50GB.
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Re: Silver-Tiger - 2008-02-12 |
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As for the size problem: They have already explained the way around this issue. They are not using an .ISO file, but they take the whole disk as a normal file system with all folders and so on, so not summarized to a single .ISO file.
As of the bandwidth problem:
I wonder what providers you have, but at least here in Germany, it's pretty cheap. I am paying 25%u20AC/month (around 36$) and I have 16000 Kbits/sec and no bandwidth limit.
What I really hope is that this will never lead to a backup running method on a retail console, but like we can see ATM, such insolent *****s like the guys from PS3news ( BTW, these are the same people who tried to steal Dark_AleX's work!)
will always try to pirate the games without paying to the developers.
Seriously, there is no excuse for Blu-Ray backups.
why do you think they are made scratch-proof?
Exactly, so they are not having reading problems anymore. You need a hefty amount of power to break them and if that happens it's your own stupid fault.
Now if there would be Homebrew WITHOUT backup loaders, I would love to see that running on my console, but I am pretty sure this will never happen... -.-
Homebrew would be cool, but I am not risking to brick my PS3 with this process or to be banned from PSN just because of CFW.
As for the size problem: They have already explained the way around this issue. They are not using an .ISO file, but they take the whole disk as a normal file system with all folders and so on, so not summarized to a single .ISO file.
As of the bandwidth problem:
I wonder what providers you have, but at least here in Germany, it's pretty cheap. I am paying 25%u20AC/month (around 36$) and I have 16000 Kbits/sec and no bandwidth limit.
What I really hope is that this will never lead to a backup running method on a retail console, but like we can see ATM, such insolent *****s like the guys from PS3news ( BTW, these are the same people who tried to steal Dark_AleX's work!)
will always try to pirate the games without paying to the developers.
Seriously, there is no excuse for Blu-Ray backups.
why do you think they are made scratch-proof?
Exactly, so they are not having reading problems anymore. You need a hefty amount of power to break them and if that happens it's your own stupid fault.
Now if there would be Homebrew WITHOUT backup loaders, I would love to see that running on my console, but I am pretty sure this will never happen... -.-
Homebrew would be cool, but I am not risking to brick my PS3 with this process or to be banned from PSN just because of CFW.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Someone already beat me to the 4GB nonsense.
As for PS3News stealing anything from Dark_AleX....every news post I ready about Dark_AleX on the PS3News site, they gave him full credit for any work he's done.
I don't care about playing backups but I do care about messing around with my save files. I hope it's hacked enough so we can decompile our saves and make them usable again after playing with them.
Someone already beat me to the 4GB nonsense.
As for PS3News stealing anything from Dark_AleX....every news post I ready about Dark_AleX on the PS3News site, they gave him full credit for any work he's done.
I don't care about playing backups but I do care about messing around with my save files. I hope it's hacked enough so we can decompile our saves and make them usable again after playing with them.
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by ncsleet - 2008-02-12 |
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» ??????????
Where the hell did the insanely high 20GB come from?
There are no PC games that are 20GB, and PS3 has the same games, so why would they be less compressed than the PC versions?
E.g.
Call of Duty 4 - 6.32GB
Bioshock - 6.10GB
Crysis - 6.32GB
Guitar Hero 3 - 3.35GB
Kane & Lynch - 8.10GB
NFS ProStreet - 4.90GB
Why would these SAME games be any bigger just because they are on a console?
If I had a Blu Ray reader, I would check to see, but yeah.
But yeah... go to Mininova, or any other torrent site, and search 'Games' for 'PS3'.
They're all 3-7GB.
Where the hell did the insanely high 20GB come from?
There are no PC games that are 20GB, and PS3 has the same games, so why would they be less compressed than the PC versions?
E.g.
Call of Duty 4 - 6.32GB
Bioshock - 6.10GB
Crysis - 6.32GB
Guitar Hero 3 - 3.35GB
Kane & Lynch - 8.10GB
NFS ProStreet - 4.90GB
Why would these SAME games be any bigger just because they are on a console?
If I had a Blu Ray reader, I would check to see, but yeah.
But yeah... go to Mininova, or any other torrent site, and search 'Games' for 'PS3'.
They're all 3-7GB.
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Re: Ludikhris - 2008-02-12 |
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» some samples
Resistance 15+
I have call of Duty 4 at 15+
Oblivion 14+
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 11+
So not as big as 20, but high enough to be inconvenient. Don't think they couldn't just write in complexities and redundancies with relationships that are hard to get around.
Also seriously people I found the PS2 to be way a way higher percent pirated than the PSP, and the PS2 was a huge success. PSP was just a first gen console. Sony will get a better chance next time around. Sure piracy has had an impact of the PSP but of each person I have met anywhere that owns a PSP they have no idea what the word "homebrew" or "ISO" means.
All Sony has to do is keep piracy so the learning curve is steep enough for the masses to never want to learn it.
Resistance 15+
I have call of Duty 4 at 15+
Oblivion 14+
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 11+
So not as big as 20, but high enough to be inconvenient. Don't think they couldn't just write in complexities and redundancies with relationships that are hard to get around.
Also seriously people I found the PS2 to be way a way higher percent pirated than the PSP, and the PS2 was a huge success. PSP was just a first gen console. Sony will get a better chance next time around. Sure piracy has had an impact of the PSP but of each person I have met anywhere that owns a PSP they have no idea what the word "homebrew" or "ISO" means.
All Sony has to do is keep piracy so the learning curve is steep enough for the masses to never want to learn it.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Heavenly Sword has 10GB worth of audio alone. The PS3 has the ability to offer a TRUE HD experience unlike the 360.
Think more along the lines of PS3 exclusives.
Heavenly Sword has 10GB worth of audio alone. The PS3 has the ability to offer a TRUE HD experience unlike the 360.
Think more along the lines of PS3 exclusives.
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Re: Dustball - 2008-02-12 |
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» Well
All the games you listed are smaller than 20 GB because every game you listed is either a PC/360 game and/or a multi-platform game. This means their size has to be constrained to fit the DVD limit.
All the games you listed are smaller than 20 GB because every game you listed is either a PC/360 game and/or a multi-platform game. This means their size has to be constrained to fit the DVD limit.
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by Acteon - 2008-02-12 |
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» Hmmm...
It would be great if Sony could create a retro market through PSN, because what I like to use hacked stuff for is emulators. Playing SNES or Megadrive games on the PSP is fantastic, but if Sony could do the deals on either Virtual Console or Arcade games, I'd be all over it.
Of course, I have the Wii and 360 respectively for those, but it couldn't hurt Sony to get these features onto its own network.
It would be great if Sony could create a retro market through PSN, because what I like to use hacked stuff for is emulators. Playing SNES or Megadrive games on the PSP is fantastic, but if Sony could do the deals on either Virtual Console or Arcade games, I'd be all over it.
Of course, I have the Wii and 360 respectively for those, but it couldn't hurt Sony to get these features onto its own network.
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by arnookie - 2008-02-12 |
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» This will kill the PS3. Don`t you see that everytime a console
This will kill the PS3. Don`t you see that everytime a console gets hacked they develop a new one. The ps1 was replaced by ps2 when that got hacked they produced ps3 and this will just continue until people stop using backup games.
Yes I think it`s fine for psp but not ps3. The psp goes hand in hand with ps3 and hacked psp`s have lead to lots of ps3 sales. So call the psp the loss leader in this situation. But please don`t jump on this because we just don`t need it. Ps3 rocks without stupid hacks and exploits.
Do any of us need this? I think not.
This will kill the PS3. Don`t you see that everytime a console gets hacked they develop a new one. The ps1 was replaced by ps2 when that got hacked they produced ps3 and this will just continue until people stop using backup games.
Yes I think it`s fine for psp but not ps3. The psp goes hand in hand with ps3 and hacked psp`s have lead to lots of ps3 sales. So call the psp the loss leader in this situation. But please don`t jump on this because we just don`t need it. Ps3 rocks without stupid hacks and exploits.
Do any of us need this? I think not.
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Re: Mentality - 2008-02-12 |
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» How stupid can you be?
The new systems are created not because the last one got hacked but instead because the last one became outdated. omfg thats the stupidest comment I ever heard in my life. Technolgy advances in graphics, processors and whatever else is what drives the creation of new systems, hence the term - next-gen console. It will always happen regardless of weather a console is hacked or not dumbass.
Hell if it was hacking that meant a new console had to be built everytime we would be well beond PS3, since the systems are hacked that quick anyway (minus the ps3 since this has took a hell of a long time.)
Seriously everyone else just get over yourselves please, every console gets hacked EVERY console, and it will always happen, the psp is far from dead because of it, most people don't even know how to download a game let alone install homebrew and install custom firmwares. Over half probably can't even convert a video to play on it. The Wii and the 360 is hacked and you don't see any significant effect on them, the PS2 was hacked and you didn't ever see that suffering in result off that. You can pay people to chip them and sell you copied games in bulk, much more than what would be available for the PS3 due to the complexity of it and the cost of the blu-ray writers and media. Not only that if theres an ISO loader you would have to download them which comes to my point on the PSP where the majority of people aint got a clue what they are doing when it comes to installing homebrew, firmwares let alone downloading games and managing to play them.
The new systems are created not because the last one got hacked but instead because the last one became outdated. omfg thats the stupidest comment I ever heard in my life. Technolgy advances in graphics, processors and whatever else is what drives the creation of new systems, hence the term - next-gen console. It will always happen regardless of weather a console is hacked or not dumbass.
Hell if it was hacking that meant a new console had to be built everytime we would be well beond PS3, since the systems are hacked that quick anyway (minus the ps3 since this has took a hell of a long time.)
Seriously everyone else just get over yourselves please, every console gets hacked EVERY console, and it will always happen, the psp is far from dead because of it, most people don't even know how to download a game let alone install homebrew and install custom firmwares. Over half probably can't even convert a video to play on it. The Wii and the 360 is hacked and you don't see any significant effect on them, the PS2 was hacked and you didn't ever see that suffering in result off that. You can pay people to chip them and sell you copied games in bulk, much more than what would be available for the PS3 due to the complexity of it and the cost of the blu-ray writers and media. Not only that if theres an ISO loader you would have to download them which comes to my point on the PSP where the majority of people aint got a clue what they are doing when it comes to installing homebrew, firmwares let alone downloading games and managing to play them.
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Re: J2Jack - 2008-02-12 |
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» Gonna have to agree
with Mentality. That is the dumbest thing I've read on the internet so far.
Do you hear me, you ridiculous man?
with Mentality. That is the dumbest thing I've read on the internet so far.
Do you hear me, you ridiculous man?
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
The PS3 is hacked!!!! OH NO!!!!!!! Get ready for the PS4!!!!!!
The PS3 is hacked!!!! OH NO!!!!!!! Get ready for the PS4!!!!!!
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by rollypoly - 2008-02-12 |
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» hmm
if this is true hopefully focus will switch to more homebrew.
the ps3 has the potential to replace the xbox1 as best console for homebrew ever...
about the piracy:
people will download games regardless of the size, PC hdds are cheap and connections just keep getting faster.
if this is true hopefully focus will switch to more homebrew.
the ps3 has the potential to replace the xbox1 as best console for homebrew ever...
about the piracy:
people will download games regardless of the size, PC hdds are cheap and connections just keep getting faster.
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» XB Homebrew
Do you know any place to get homebrew besides xbins? Since most of the sites are abandonned or converted to 360 sites, xbin is the only place I know :(
Do you know any place to get homebrew besides xbins? Since most of the sites are abandonned or converted to 360 sites, xbin is the only place I know :(
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by Uplink - 2008-02-12 |
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» I have never Heard..
So Pointless Babble and Crying from people in my life. If you halfwit's think that the PS3 will be killed by simple piracy then you fail at life. EVERY other system on the market is hacked. Yet They are still strong in the games market. IF ANYTHING this will sell more units and help the system out in the long run. As for this Bandwidth thing you guys are talking about...Sucks for you as I move about 4tb a month in date over my connection already L2Findabetterisp.
Yarr we pirates be setting our sails, and where aiming for the PS3.
So Pointless Babble and Crying from people in my life. If you halfwit's think that the PS3 will be killed by simple piracy then you fail at life. EVERY other system on the market is hacked. Yet They are still strong in the games market. IF ANYTHING this will sell more units and help the system out in the long run. As for this Bandwidth thing you guys are talking about...Sucks for you as I move about 4tb a month in date over my connection already L2Findabetterisp.
Yarr we pirates be setting our sails, and where aiming for the PS3.
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by arnookie - 2008-02-12 |
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» Internet users who illegally download films and music face being banned from going online
Internet users who illegally download films and music face being banned from going online, according to leaked government proposals.
Look at this link if you don`t beleive me.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080212/ten-entertainment-britain-internet-film-a56114e_1.html
Also it is true that developers make new consoles to beat piracy that is a fact. ps3 has a lifespan of ten years acording to sony. You want that cut in half. because I assure you it will if people start using copies and iso games. I don`t have a problem with hombrew but that is what linux on ps3 is for. So give sony some credit for giving us that. My ps3 can do most things I want without stupid exploits and hacks.
Like I said, do we really need it. It`s hard enough keeping up to firmwares on psp`s without having the same on ps3. Imagine the incompatabilities it would cause with difforent firmwares every month or few weeks.
I for one will not be risking my £550 ps3 for this or any other exploits. Plus Sony will ban you from sony services if you do anyhow. Think about it!
Internet users who illegally download films and music face being banned from going online, according to leaked government proposals.
Look at this link if you don`t beleive me.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080212/ten-entertainment-britain-internet-film-a56114e_1.html
Also it is true that developers make new consoles to beat piracy that is a fact. ps3 has a lifespan of ten years acording to sony. You want that cut in half. because I assure you it will if people start using copies and iso games. I don`t have a problem with hombrew but that is what linux on ps3 is for. So give sony some credit for giving us that. My ps3 can do most things I want without stupid exploits and hacks.
Like I said, do we really need it. It`s hard enough keeping up to firmwares on psp`s without having the same on ps3. Imagine the incompatabilities it would cause with difforent firmwares every month or few weeks.
I for one will not be risking my £550 ps3 for this or any other exploits. Plus Sony will ban you from sony services if you do anyhow. Think about it!
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Re: FireDragon - 2008-02-12 |
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» ...
those people who play piracy really don't care about all these
those people who play piracy really don't care about all these
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-02-12 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
That's a bunch of bull. Do you know what a secure connection is? The harder they snoop then more encrypted the data transfer will be. Pretty soon, they wont know what anyone is downloading. Honestly, it's none of their damn business!
They should have to get a court order to even attempt to start looking. But as usual my fellow Americans have voted away their rights.
Think of internet data transfer as the SAME EXACT thing as a phone call. Now they can listen in all they want. Lame.
That's a bunch of bull. Do you know what a secure connection is? The harder they snoop then more encrypted the data transfer will be. Pretty soon, they wont know what anyone is downloading. Honestly, it's none of their damn business!
They should have to get a court order to even attempt to start looking. But as usual my fellow Americans have voted away their rights.
Think of internet data transfer as the SAME EXACT thing as a phone call. Now they can listen in all they want. Lame.
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by mupet0000 - 2008-02-12 |
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» lol
I hope this is real!
I hope this is real!
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by scarface_tha_second - 2008-02-12 |
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» well...
I want to play backed up games. So ***** you if you have a *****ing problem with it. No way I'm gonna spend 60 for something that shouldn't even cost 20. ***** you whoever doesn't think the PS3 has more potential to be unlocked than the dumb ***** ports of 360 games that we are stuck getting - with a few good exclusives (which I will pay for) in between, ***** you.
I want to play backed up games. So ***** you if you have a *****ing problem with it. No way I'm gonna spend 60 for something that shouldn't even cost 20. ***** you whoever doesn't think the PS3 has more potential to be unlocked than the dumb ***** ports of 360 games that we are stuck getting - with a few good exclusives (which I will pay for) in between, ***** you.
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» ....
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080212/ten-entertainment-britain-internet-film-a56114e_1.html
Funny that you said Backed up games, not pirated games, because that is obviously what you are doing.....
Also, I can't read your whole comment, because there are soo many weird stars...
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080212/ten-entertainment-britain-internet-film-a56114e_1.html
Funny that you said Backed up games, not pirated games, because that is obviously what you are doing.....
Also, I can't read your whole comment, because there are soo many weird stars...