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by ... (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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Whoa the Japanese like the PS3!?!? that's news to me!
Whoa the Japanese like the PS3!?!? that's news to me!
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by JayQue (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» hmm
i thought there was an article earlier that said it didnt "wow" them and everyone thought it sucked..
looks like the wind has changed eh ?
i thought there was an article earlier that said it didnt "wow" them and everyone thought it sucked..
looks like the wind has changed eh ?
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by ITS JUST LIKE CINEMA! (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» lol
Whaaaaatttt the fuuuuuuu*k
lol "It's just like cinema!"
Whaaaaatttt the fuuuuuuu*k
lol "It's just like cinema!"
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by Moonpie (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» PS3
That the PS3 will sell out of stock was never a surprise, regardless. But with the price cut, the bank doesn't need to hold quite as much money for them, eh? =p
That the PS3 will sell out of stock was never a surprise, regardless. But with the price cut, the bank doesn't need to hold quite as much money for them, eh? =p
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by SteveTao - 2006-09-25 |
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» Let's See...
"It's just like cinema!"
It is.
F1 looks like the E3 target render. Motorstorm's physics is cool as hell. And MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4 are tight as hell too.
"It's just like cinema!"
It is.
F1 looks like the E3 target render. Motorstorm's physics is cool as hell. And MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4 are tight as hell too.
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by darksquirrel (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» yeah
I think Sony did fantastic at TGS and it's time the fan-boys lay off. They're really doing what they said and delivering on the games. So, there's nothing to complain about.
I think Sony did fantastic at TGS and it's time the fan-boys lay off. They're really doing what they said and delivering on the games. So, there's nothing to complain about.
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by Vietone - 2006-09-25 |
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» Sony delivered this time.
When E3 2005 was around and everyone got news that some of the tech demos were acually pre-rendered, everyone went mad and said the PS3 graphics will never look close to those pre-rendered scenes.
Now at TGS2006, the graphics are just as good as pre-rendered last year with some games even looking better. Assasins Creed, MGS, Devil May Cry. UT2007 will look just as good if not better then Gears of War but im still waiting for the PC release, not the PS3 version unless they have Full keyboard and Mouse Support.
Everyone was bashing Sony that they would never live up to the hype that the PS2 was suppose to have when it was announced. This time they have done everything they said they would, showed graphics that people swore were pre-rendered, and now, they have the ability to shove Microsoft out of a position of power they got by releasing over a year ago.
PS3 will dominate this generation, there is no question about it. By a years end, we will start seeing games that use more power of the PS3, the first generation games look incredible, better then any first generation Xbox360 games and better then some of the 2nd generation as well.
I think we can put to rest that the PS3 is too hard to develop for. If that was the case, then the games would not be looking as good as they do and play as well as they do.
When E3 2005 was around and everyone got news that some of the tech demos were acually pre-rendered, everyone went mad and said the PS3 graphics will never look close to those pre-rendered scenes.
Now at TGS2006, the graphics are just as good as pre-rendered last year with some games even looking better. Assasins Creed, MGS, Devil May Cry. UT2007 will look just as good if not better then Gears of War but im still waiting for the PC release, not the PS3 version unless they have Full keyboard and Mouse Support.
Everyone was bashing Sony that they would never live up to the hype that the PS2 was suppose to have when it was announced. This time they have done everything they said they would, showed graphics that people swore were pre-rendered, and now, they have the ability to shove Microsoft out of a position of power they got by releasing over a year ago.
PS3 will dominate this generation, there is no question about it. By a years end, we will start seeing games that use more power of the PS3, the first generation games look incredible, better then any first generation Xbox360 games and better then some of the 2nd generation as well.
I think we can put to rest that the PS3 is too hard to develop for. If that was the case, then the games would not be looking as good as they do and play as well as they do.
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by insert token (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» hmmmmmmmm
I think every one show read this http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/tgs06-armored-core-4-is-a-real-system-crasher-202827.php this my shade some light on the hole story
I think every one show read this http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/tgs06-armored-core-4-is-a-real-system-crasher-202827.php this my shade some light on the hole story
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by XboxHater (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» to no.8
This is an unfinished game it's normal.
At every show theres some games who make a console crash.
Don't try to find something wrong now (moron)!
This is an unfinished game it's normal.
At every show theres some games who make a console crash.
Don't try to find something wrong now (moron)!
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by Simon (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» xbox
Where have all the xbox360 fanboys gone? I think they are *****ting their pants lol
Where have all the xbox360 fanboys gone? I think they are *****ting their pants lol
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by jay (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» bank
hell yeah theres a bank ill just move my $5 aside they can take the other half of my piggy bank
hell yeah theres a bank ill just move my $5 aside they can take the other half of my piggy bank
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by XBOX360 CONVERTS (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» HEADING THIS WAY...
WE WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS!
=)
WE WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS!
=)
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #7
Really Vietone? Perhaps you could provide a link to a website that agrees with your predictable assessment. Websites like Gamespot and IGN must have been watching a different show to you it seems.
Some games do look good, that was to be expected, but as good as the pre-rendered visuals of last year or better? Come on. Which game beats Killzone (with it's million+ polygons per character)?
I can't wait for my PS3, but I saw nothing on the console that was any better than that shown for the 360. :|
Really Vietone? Perhaps you could provide a link to a website that agrees with your predictable assessment. Websites like Gamespot and IGN must have been watching a different show to you it seems.
Some games do look good, that was to be expected, but as good as the pre-rendered visuals of last year or better? Come on. Which game beats Killzone (with it's million+ polygons per character)?
I can't wait for my PS3, but I saw nothing on the console that was any better than that shown for the 360. :|
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by dave (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» before and after
back at e3, people played the demos and said that they dont look that good. now at tgs they say it looks just like the trailers. the reason is because the demos at e3 were kits running half made demos. the games at tgs are the real thing.
back at e3, people played the demos and said that they dont look that good. now at tgs they say it looks just like the trailers. the reason is because the demos at e3 were kits running half made demos. the games at tgs are the real thing.
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #14
>"now at tgs they say it looks just like the trailers."
I hate to push the point but... who are 'they'?
>"now at tgs they say it looks just like the trailers."
I hate to push the point but... who are 'they'?
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by TheDude (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» Xflop 1.5 AM CRY
That site is funny as hell.
SDF Believe.
http://sonydefenseforce.com/
That site is funny as hell.
SDF Believe.
http://sonydefenseforce.com/
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by Vecha - 2006-09-25 |
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» I feel slightly better..
about buying the ps3 after e3 i wasn't sure...but now with the TGS...i feel slightly better that i won't be buying a "hype-machine" not saying the ps3 doesn't have its share of hype.
about buying the ps3 after e3 i wasn't sure...but now with the TGS...i feel slightly better that i won't be buying a "hype-machine" not saying the ps3 doesn't have its share of hype.
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by - (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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haha suck ***** xbox150 fanboys with your buggy and incomplete rushed released console. hahahaha
PS3 FTW!!!
haha suck ***** xbox150 fanboys with your buggy and incomplete rushed released console. hahahaha
PS3 FTW!!!
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by dude..... (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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they are the gamers that got the chance to play those games first hand. the gamers (they ) said it wasnt that great at e3 because they were incomplete but now that theyre done they (gamers) say they look just like the trailers or better.
please dont try to make his post seem irrelivent by pointing out his commonly used pronouns
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #19
>"they are the gamers that got the chance to play those games first hand."
I asked earlier "who are THEY". I'm not interested in anonymous gamers online who _say_ they've been to TGS. I could post 100 messages right now using different aliases claiming exactly the same thing. Just because someone says what you want to hear doesn't make it fact. So be specific on who THEY are.
These gamers of yours makes it seem like the PS3 blew the competition away, and yet all-format games websites like Gamespot, IGN, 1UP etc do not support this point of view, and the suprisingly low number of posts here during TGS suggests many gamers here do not support that point of view either.
Usually during a show like TGS, and especially when a game appears which blows gamers away, the posts here go crazy with fans and fanboys all talking about the game and how awesome it is and fanboys of other systems trying to put it down. Well, just look around these forums dave, the low number of posts is like TGS never happened!
But yes, there are PS3 games which are impressive, that was always to be expected, and there are PS3 games that are not so impressive, but even amoungst the impressive games, numerous reports and podcasts from TGS suggests there is nothing which really seperates the PS3 from the 360.
So I remain disappointed with Sony at TGS (and don't even mention the terrible keynote address), but I still look forward to my PS3.
>"they are the gamers that got the chance to play those games first hand."
I asked earlier "who are THEY". I'm not interested in anonymous gamers online who _say_ they've been to TGS. I could post 100 messages right now using different aliases claiming exactly the same thing. Just because someone says what you want to hear doesn't make it fact. So be specific on who THEY are.
These gamers of yours makes it seem like the PS3 blew the competition away, and yet all-format games websites like Gamespot, IGN, 1UP etc do not support this point of view, and the suprisingly low number of posts here during TGS suggests many gamers here do not support that point of view either.
Usually during a show like TGS, and especially when a game appears which blows gamers away, the posts here go crazy with fans and fanboys all talking about the game and how awesome it is and fanboys of other systems trying to put it down. Well, just look around these forums dave, the low number of posts is like TGS never happened!
But yes, there are PS3 games which are impressive, that was always to be expected, and there are PS3 games that are not so impressive, but even amoungst the impressive games, numerous reports and podcasts from TGS suggests there is nothing which really seperates the PS3 from the 360.
So I remain disappointed with Sony at TGS (and don't even mention the terrible keynote address), but I still look forward to my PS3.
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #20 correction
>"Well, just look around these forums dave, the low number of posts is like TGS never happened!"
I guess that should be dude. ;)
>"Well, just look around these forums dave, the low number of posts is like TGS never happened!"
I guess that should be dude. ;)
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by chief (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» well
name the games that were not impressive to you and the games that could be done on the 360
name the games that were not impressive to you and the games that could be done on the 360
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by Figboy (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» *sigh*
i don't understand what people are expecting from a keynote. Ninjas? Swordfights? Dragons? (oh wait, those were actually on the showfloor: Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Genji, and Lair).
Keynotes are about business for the most part.
i'm not saying Kutaragi's Keynote was amazing (it was boring as *****: i watched it), but it wasn't anywhere near the debacle of "Wii Prove our Promise." (Nintendo coasted on the hype of E3 going into the GC in Lepzieg, then underdelivered by not even announcing a price or launch date, or anything relevent to the Wii besides two sequel announcements. yay!)
a lot of people didn't think Sony would bring the noise this TGS. they were convinced that the games would suck and look like current gen 1.5.
at TGS, they proved their promise that the PS3 would deliver amazing graphics, games that ran at 1080p (where are the people saying that 1080p would "never be possible this generation?"), and solid lineup. but most importantly, the games were fun.
look at the 1up.com half our video where they discuss the PS3. people were genuinely impressed by what Sony was offering. from Ninja Gaiden Sigma, to White Knight Story.
for those that say, "Been there, played that," concerning Ninja Gaiden Sigma, remember: the X Box only sold 25 million units. the PS2 sold 100 million units. that's 75 million more units than the X Box, and my point is that 75 million people never owned an X Box, and thus, probably never played Ninja Gaiden, or Ninja Gaiden Black.
whenever that game is released (i'm thinking sometime in the spring of 07, since it's a port), PS3 owners will have no doubt that they will get a AAA kickass title to play. along with Brothers in Arms, Virtua Fighter, Assassin's Creed, Lair, Heavenly Sword, and who knows what else, the PS3 has a very solid lineup of titles to please it's owners (especially in Japan, where it's nearly guaranteed thanks to TGS, that the PS3 will outsell the 360 there).
the keynote was lame. yes. but the killer announcements amidst all of Kutaragi's senile man talk was the price drop for Japan, and the inclusion of HDMI on the 20 gig unit worldwide, thus negating the "tard pack".
looking at the now $100 difference between a premium 360 and a "core" PS3 that still outfeatures the 360, it's not so much of a hard thing to swallow. it wouldn't surprise me if Sony eventually phases out the $600 PS3 and begins to produce more quantities of 20 gigs (i'd imagine for the first year, it'd still be 80/20 with the bulk going for 60gigs, then, in about a year, it goes to 60/40, and so on, so forth until the 20gig is the main unit. by that point, the price will have dropped even further, and you'd be looking at a $200 to $300 20 gig PS3. not too shabby).
but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least? it was a wonder no one was storming the various Sony facilities with torches and pitchforks. now, as i expected since E3 this year, there is a turnaround in opinion on Sony. they showed that there system can pack the heat, and that it's not just a sequel fest (White Knight Story, Lair, Heavenly Sword, etc). they did good. and response from gamers at TGS (not just reporters and the media), has been good.
p.s. did anyone else catch that a "single log in" announcement was buried in the talk at the Keynote and Phil Harrison's dashboard showing? to me, that's another major concerne people had regarding the PS3 online service (i don't care, as i don't play games online: too many douchebags, but a lot of people do play online, so it's an important announcement). Sony may suck monkey balls at getting to the point, but there were some informative things said at TGS even if it was buried in tech speak. at least they didn't mention the 4th dimension or "lucid dreams."
i don't understand what people are expecting from a keynote. Ninjas? Swordfights? Dragons? (oh wait, those were actually on the showfloor: Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Genji, and Lair).
Keynotes are about business for the most part.
i'm not saying Kutaragi's Keynote was amazing (it was boring as *****: i watched it), but it wasn't anywhere near the debacle of "Wii Prove our Promise." (Nintendo coasted on the hype of E3 going into the GC in Lepzieg, then underdelivered by not even announcing a price or launch date, or anything relevent to the Wii besides two sequel announcements. yay!)
a lot of people didn't think Sony would bring the noise this TGS. they were convinced that the games would suck and look like current gen 1.5.
at TGS, they proved their promise that the PS3 would deliver amazing graphics, games that ran at 1080p (where are the people saying that 1080p would "never be possible this generation?"), and solid lineup. but most importantly, the games were fun.
look at the 1up.com half our video where they discuss the PS3. people were genuinely impressed by what Sony was offering. from Ninja Gaiden Sigma, to White Knight Story.
for those that say, "Been there, played that," concerning Ninja Gaiden Sigma, remember: the X Box only sold 25 million units. the PS2 sold 100 million units. that's 75 million more units than the X Box, and my point is that 75 million people never owned an X Box, and thus, probably never played Ninja Gaiden, or Ninja Gaiden Black.
whenever that game is released (i'm thinking sometime in the spring of 07, since it's a port), PS3 owners will have no doubt that they will get a AAA kickass title to play. along with Brothers in Arms, Virtua Fighter, Assassin's Creed, Lair, Heavenly Sword, and who knows what else, the PS3 has a very solid lineup of titles to please it's owners (especially in Japan, where it's nearly guaranteed thanks to TGS, that the PS3 will outsell the 360 there).
the keynote was lame. yes. but the killer announcements amidst all of Kutaragi's senile man talk was the price drop for Japan, and the inclusion of HDMI on the 20 gig unit worldwide, thus negating the "tard pack".
looking at the now $100 difference between a premium 360 and a "core" PS3 that still outfeatures the 360, it's not so much of a hard thing to swallow. it wouldn't surprise me if Sony eventually phases out the $600 PS3 and begins to produce more quantities of 20 gigs (i'd imagine for the first year, it'd still be 80/20 with the bulk going for 60gigs, then, in about a year, it goes to 60/40, and so on, so forth until the 20gig is the main unit. by that point, the price will have dropped even further, and you'd be looking at a $200 to $300 20 gig PS3. not too shabby).
but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least? it was a wonder no one was storming the various Sony facilities with torches and pitchforks. now, as i expected since E3 this year, there is a turnaround in opinion on Sony. they showed that there system can pack the heat, and that it's not just a sequel fest (White Knight Story, Lair, Heavenly Sword, etc). they did good. and response from gamers at TGS (not just reporters and the media), has been good.
p.s. did anyone else catch that a "single log in" announcement was buried in the talk at the Keynote and Phil Harrison's dashboard showing? to me, that's another major concerne people had regarding the PS3 online service (i don't care, as i don't play games online: too many douchebags, but a lot of people do play online, so it's an important announcement). Sony may suck monkey balls at getting to the point, but there were some informative things said at TGS even if it was buried in tech speak. at least they didn't mention the 4th dimension or "lucid dreams."
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by comedy - 2006-09-25 |
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» was that really figboy?
i like that figboy normally makes good sense.
i was going to say the same thing, the keynote was just a big waste of time for gamers - maybe not for investors, but i'm not one of them.
but the games on show basically showed what sony have been saying all along. this means that there are no longer complaints saying 'motorstorm looks nothing like that trailer' and all that garbage. so basically the fact that the anti-ps3 camp can't really say anything bad is enough to show sony had a good tgs.
they were expected to show what ps3 can really do, and they did, and people have finally stopped accusing sony of being liars.
what was their 'big surprise' by the way? was it the $50 price drop in japan?
i like that figboy normally makes good sense.
i was going to say the same thing, the keynote was just a big waste of time for gamers - maybe not for investors, but i'm not one of them.
but the games on show basically showed what sony have been saying all along. this means that there are no longer complaints saying 'motorstorm looks nothing like that trailer' and all that garbage. so basically the fact that the anti-ps3 camp can't really say anything bad is enough to show sony had a good tgs.
they were expected to show what ps3 can really do, and they did, and people have finally stopped accusing sony of being liars.
what was their 'big surprise' by the way? was it the $50 price drop in japan?
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by Vecha - 2006-09-25 |
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» haha
"what was their 'big surprise' by the way? was it the $50 price drop in japan?"
the big surprise was probably, "sorry for lying before...we streightened up...sorta"
"what was their 'big surprise' by the way? was it the $50 price drop in japan?"
the big surprise was probably, "sorry for lying before...we streightened up...sorta"
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #23
>"but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least?"
And can't you make up your own mind instead of immersing yourself in negative news on the net? Which of the impressive PS3 games shown at TGS did YOU not expect to be impressive. Resistance? Lair? MGS4? Come on, these games had mostly positive feedback (even if we saw no gameplay footage of Lair until now), so stop acting like these games came out of nowhere. The games that impressed were expected to impress, they were not surprises, and NO-ONE was shocked at their quality.
As I said earlier, you can tell the reaction to TGS from the lack of posts on these forums. Where's the overflowing exciting we would expect to see here on QJ if TGS was the triumphant success that some gamers claimed it was in this thread? Where is everyone?
>"look at the 1up.com half our video where they discuss the PS3. people were genuinely impressed by what Sony was offering. from Ninja Gaiden Sigma, to White Knight Story."
Of course they would be impressed, it's an impressive console, it's slightly more powerful than the 360, but not enough to make much difference in most cases. If gamers are impressed by the 360, then gamers will be impressed by the PS3 when they see the type of games they like. And since you mention 1up, did you listen to the the editors views on TGS in their podcast on 22/9/06? (*warning* it's not going to be comfortable for PS fanboys).
http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3144909
>"where are the people saying that 1080p would "never be possible this generation"
Again, do you listen to fanboys or do you think for yourself (sorry, I know that's very direct, but come on Figboy).
Only fanboys said 1080p would NEVER be posible this generation. Many others saw 1080p for what it is, a resolution which requires twice as many pixels as 720p, therefore will be achievable, but you can ALWAYS have better graphics at 720p. If your game can run at 720p at 60fps, then there's a chance you can run it at 1080p at 30fps (similar amount of pixels processed per second). However, push that to 1080p at 60fps and something will have to give compared to the same res at 30fps or running the game at 720p. This applies to the 360 too with the recently announced support for 1080p.
That said, it's great to see gamers supporting Sony, but sometime I think some of you guys support it no matter what.
You know, it IS ok to critize the PS3 at times, as I have done so in this thread. Sony are going to have $600 of my hard earned cash in future, and I think that gives me the right to question what I'm getting for the money. I'm not saying you were questioning my right to do so, but you do come over as a dedicated member of the Sony Defence Force at times. ;)
>"but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least?"
And can't you make up your own mind instead of immersing yourself in negative news on the net? Which of the impressive PS3 games shown at TGS did YOU not expect to be impressive. Resistance? Lair? MGS4? Come on, these games had mostly positive feedback (even if we saw no gameplay footage of Lair until now), so stop acting like these games came out of nowhere. The games that impressed were expected to impress, they were not surprises, and NO-ONE was shocked at their quality.
As I said earlier, you can tell the reaction to TGS from the lack of posts on these forums. Where's the overflowing exciting we would expect to see here on QJ if TGS was the triumphant success that some gamers claimed it was in this thread? Where is everyone?
>"look at the 1up.com half our video where they discuss the PS3. people were genuinely impressed by what Sony was offering. from Ninja Gaiden Sigma, to White Knight Story."
Of course they would be impressed, it's an impressive console, it's slightly more powerful than the 360, but not enough to make much difference in most cases. If gamers are impressed by the 360, then gamers will be impressed by the PS3 when they see the type of games they like. And since you mention 1up, did you listen to the the editors views on TGS in their podcast on 22/9/06? (*warning* it's not going to be comfortable for PS fanboys).
http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3144909
>"where are the people saying that 1080p would "never be possible this generation"
Again, do you listen to fanboys or do you think for yourself (sorry, I know that's very direct, but come on Figboy).
Only fanboys said 1080p would NEVER be posible this generation. Many others saw 1080p for what it is, a resolution which requires twice as many pixels as 720p, therefore will be achievable, but you can ALWAYS have better graphics at 720p. If your game can run at 720p at 60fps, then there's a chance you can run it at 1080p at 30fps (similar amount of pixels processed per second). However, push that to 1080p at 60fps and something will have to give compared to the same res at 30fps or running the game at 720p. This applies to the 360 too with the recently announced support for 1080p.
That said, it's great to see gamers supporting Sony, but sometime I think some of you guys support it no matter what.
You know, it IS ok to critize the PS3 at times, as I have done so in this thread. Sony are going to have $600 of my hard earned cash in future, and I think that gives me the right to question what I'm getting for the money. I'm not saying you were questioning my right to do so, but you do come over as a dedicated member of the Sony Defence Force at times. ;)
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-25 |
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» #24
>"but the games on show basically showed what sony have been saying all along. this means that there are no longer complaints saying 'motorstorm looks nothing like that trailer' and all that garbage."
What Sony have been saying all along. Sorry, but I didn't see a console which was TWICE as powerful as the 360 (which Sony claimed) and I saw no games which had characters with millions of polygons as seen in Killzone. Yes, TGS showed what the PS3 could REALLY do, which is about as much as the 360 could do, and with the right game in the right hands, perhaps slightly more in certain areas. That's great for me and many gamers, but it is not what was promised at E3 2005.
Motorstorm looks very good (and great fun to play), but graphically it's nothing beyond other games seen at the show. It's not the best looking PS3 game and only looks like the E3 trailer in terms of having vehicles racing along a muddy track, just like characters in games look like their CGI counterparts. It doesn't match the E3 2005 trailer itself, neither in the quality of the lighting or the detail shown. Now if they could implement global illumination, then it should be close to matching the lighting seen in the trailer, but then there's still the detail to match (as yet, none of the PS3 games shown implement Global Illumination). Perhaps I'm straying off topic now...
>"but the games on show basically showed what sony have been saying all along. this means that there are no longer complaints saying 'motorstorm looks nothing like that trailer' and all that garbage."
What Sony have been saying all along. Sorry, but I didn't see a console which was TWICE as powerful as the 360 (which Sony claimed) and I saw no games which had characters with millions of polygons as seen in Killzone. Yes, TGS showed what the PS3 could REALLY do, which is about as much as the 360 could do, and with the right game in the right hands, perhaps slightly more in certain areas. That's great for me and many gamers, but it is not what was promised at E3 2005.
Motorstorm looks very good (and great fun to play), but graphically it's nothing beyond other games seen at the show. It's not the best looking PS3 game and only looks like the E3 trailer in terms of having vehicles racing along a muddy track, just like characters in games look like their CGI counterparts. It doesn't match the E3 2005 trailer itself, neither in the quality of the lighting or the detail shown. Now if they could implement global illumination, then it should be close to matching the lighting seen in the trailer, but then there's still the detail to match (as yet, none of the PS3 games shown implement Global Illumination). Perhaps I'm straying off topic now...
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by dave (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26 |
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#27 you do have a right to question what you are spending 600$ for. but you cant say that motorstorm didnt look like the trailer. that thing look great. the ps3 pushes great graphics and plays smooth. the 360 might be able to push the graphics at the cost of gameplay( well that any system even the old ps1). the xbox might look just as good, but it choppes. its not soo smooth. not all the games chop but look at quake,dead raising,call of dodo. I've played all those and they look great but it chops. and I know that some xbot will log on to say "I had my xbox sence it came out and it never crashed or choped". but its true if you think Im some kind of fanboy then look up the xplay quake reveiw if you can find it. anyway i think when #23 said "but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least?" he ment that nobody did ecspected the games to look that much better. and I agree. everybody was saying that the ps3 sucks and the games look worst than the xbox. but now they(the gamers) play and its what sony was saying all along. now the reason that you dont see alot of post online is because alot of xbot dont want to read or hear that their mighty xbox will lose. the there are more xbox fans online then ps3 fans. anyway who am I, Im just a nobody so go buy your ps3 and have fun.
#27 you do have a right to question what you are spending 600$ for. but you cant say that motorstorm didnt look like the trailer. that thing look great. the ps3 pushes great graphics and plays smooth. the 360 might be able to push the graphics at the cost of gameplay( well that any system even the old ps1). the xbox might look just as good, but it choppes. its not soo smooth. not all the games chop but look at quake,dead raising,call of dodo. I've played all those and they look great but it chops. and I know that some xbot will log on to say "I had my xbox sence it came out and it never crashed or choped". but its true if you think Im some kind of fanboy then look up the xplay quake reveiw if you can find it. anyway i think when #23 said "but no, impressive games *WEREN'T* expected from Sony at TGS. did you not see the negativity against the company going into TGS from all over the net, at least?" he ment that nobody did ecspected the games to look that much better. and I agree. everybody was saying that the ps3 sucks and the games look worst than the xbox. but now they(the gamers) play and its what sony was saying all along. now the reason that you dont see alot of post online is because alot of xbot dont want to read or hear that their mighty xbox will lose. the there are more xbox fans online then ps3 fans. anyway who am I, Im just a nobody so go buy your ps3 and have fun.
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by otarumx (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26 |
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Well, the usual postings praising the PS3 presentation at TGS are not here, mainly because the bulk of people had already made their mind about the "awesomeness" of the 360 or the "sheer genius" of the Wii.
Now that Sony has shown their stuff is for real a lot of gamers are at a point where they have to reevaluate their preconceptions and reconsider buying a PS3. They are not posting but they will when the Wii and PS3 launches come.
I don't plan on getting any console just yet, I'm pretty happy with my PS2, and I would rather take a wait and see approach for Wii and PS3.
PS3 was really impressive at TGS while Nintendo showed the same stuff shown at E3 making the PS3 the winning system at the event; editors at 1up and other sites where too much in love with the Wii to see past their preconceptions.
Come next year all 3 companies are really going to do something they are not used to do, listen to the gamers, they will all have to really work on getting on the good side of consumers if they want to fight for marketshare, so, if the price standard is set at 60 dollars on XBOX360 then Sony will have to follow suit. If the microtransactions are well implemented and usefull a standard will emerge. Even the usual half baked games will be phased out because the future of the consoles rests on how much better they are than on the other consoles.
Things just keep getting more and more interesting, I can't wait for November.
Well, the usual postings praising the PS3 presentation at TGS are not here, mainly because the bulk of people had already made their mind about the "awesomeness" of the 360 or the "sheer genius" of the Wii.
Now that Sony has shown their stuff is for real a lot of gamers are at a point where they have to reevaluate their preconceptions and reconsider buying a PS3. They are not posting but they will when the Wii and PS3 launches come.
I don't plan on getting any console just yet, I'm pretty happy with my PS2, and I would rather take a wait and see approach for Wii and PS3.
PS3 was really impressive at TGS while Nintendo showed the same stuff shown at E3 making the PS3 the winning system at the event; editors at 1up and other sites where too much in love with the Wii to see past their preconceptions.
Come next year all 3 companies are really going to do something they are not used to do, listen to the gamers, they will all have to really work on getting on the good side of consumers if they want to fight for marketshare, so, if the price standard is set at 60 dollars on XBOX360 then Sony will have to follow suit. If the microtransactions are well implemented and usefull a standard will emerge. Even the usual half baked games will be phased out because the future of the consoles rests on how much better they are than on the other consoles.
Things just keep getting more and more interesting, I can't wait for November.
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by ILuvGames (Unregistered) - 2006-09-26 |
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Sorry, but Motorstorm does not look like the E3 2005 trailer (see I _can_ say it ;)), it does looks great however, but it has that high res PC look of many next-gen games, something the E3 2005 trailer didn't have (download it and look at it again). As for smooth games, that depends on the game, the developer and the hardware.
I notice how you talk about 360 games that 'chop' but conveniently ignore ALL those with perfectly smooth framerates, i.e. don't chop. Quake was a poorly executed LAUNCH game, so stop pretending it's an example of the 360 at it's best when there are numerous 360 games with better graphics AND smoother framerates than Quake. The PS3 will have it's fair share of 'choppy' games too, and guess which one's the XBox fanboys will focus on upon release... That's right, the choppy games. Hmmm.
>"he ment that nobody did ecspected the games to look that much better. and I agree."
"That much better"? They look just as expected, so I don't know what you or some others were expecting before TGS, especially if you were following the PS3 closely all year (I was, weren't you? :)). Be specific, which game have you been following all year including here on QJ a few days before TGS, and then was shocked at the improvement seen at TGS?
IMO, both you and Figboy are doing the classic, talk it down to talk it up routine, where you make something out to be much worse than it really is before, so that you can say how great things are afterwards. ;)
Anyway, I've been here all year (under different aliases), and with every show these boards have come alive with gamers posting their thoughts and opinions on what they've seen and heard. It happened during CES, GDC, The Sony Event, E3, Leipsig etc, and yet for TGS, it's all quite, with a fraction of the posts seen for those other shows. That says it all imo.
Sorry, but Motorstorm does not look like the E3 2005 trailer (see I _can_ say it ;)), it does looks great however, but it has that high res PC look of many next-gen games, something the E3 2005 trailer didn't have (download it and look at it again). As for smooth games, that depends on the game, the developer and the hardware.
I notice how you talk about 360 games that 'chop' but conveniently ignore ALL those with perfectly smooth framerates, i.e. don't chop. Quake was a poorly executed LAUNCH game, so stop pretending it's an example of the 360 at it's best when there are numerous 360 games with better graphics AND smoother framerates than Quake. The PS3 will have it's fair share of 'choppy' games too, and guess which one's the XBox fanboys will focus on upon release... That's right, the choppy games. Hmmm.
>"he ment that nobody did ecspected the games to look that much better. and I agree."
"That much better"? They look just as expected, so I don't know what you or some others were expecting before TGS, especially if you were following the PS3 closely all year (I was, weren't you? :)). Be specific, which game have you been following all year including here on QJ a few days before TGS, and then was shocked at the improvement seen at TGS?
IMO, both you and Figboy are doing the classic, talk it down to talk it up routine, where you make something out to be much worse than it really is before, so that you can say how great things are afterwards. ;)
Anyway, I've been here all year (under different aliases), and with every show these boards have come alive with gamers posting their thoughts and opinions on what they've seen and heard. It happened during CES, GDC, The Sony Event, E3, Leipsig etc, and yet for TGS, it's all quite, with a fraction of the posts seen for those other shows. That says it all imo.
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