Posted Dec 02, 2007 at 12:05AM by Enrico S.
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Some hackers have announced that they've discovered a way to access the 3D contexts on the Graphics Processor Unit of the PlayStation 3. If what they say is true, then this will allow homebrew developers to create their own 3D applications for the console. |
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by Sinborn - 2007-12-02 |
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» +_+!
That's some awesome news!
That's some awesome news!
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by 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-02 |
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What about on here: http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=9429
this only requires the .bld for otheros and doesnt run off any linux but it shows a rotating cube, moving smiley faces, and "bouncing" text.
Have a look, that video is about 1week/2weeks old they've gotten onto 3D now :p
What about on here: http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=9429
this only requires the .bld for otheros and doesnt run off any linux but it shows a rotating cube, moving smiley faces, and "bouncing" text.
Have a look, that video is about 1week/2weeks old they've gotten onto 3D now :p
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by CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-12-02 |
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» Great News But...
That video proved nothing. That looks like a 2D image spinning on a 2D background.
That video proved nothing. That looks like a 2D image spinning on a 2D background.
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Re: 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-02 |
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» btw
The triangle isnt a texture, its made just like you would in OpenGL (without that API) and texture it. Its a step forward +]
The triangle isnt a texture, its made just like you would in OpenGL (without that API) and texture it. Its a step forward +]
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by MjW - 2007-12-02 |
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» I see..
I still don't see any provided proof. The only thing I see is an announcement of a hack on a youtube site. Yeah right..
After 2 years in the PSP scene I learned to believe only when proof is present.
I still don't see any provided proof. The only thing I see is an announcement of a hack on a youtube site. Yeah right..
After 2 years in the PSP scene I learned to believe only when proof is present.
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Re: 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-02 |
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oh you fanny see my earlier post, and it is real ive tried them both. Its using Noveau Shader, the bloody source codes available, and
http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t+8364 shows the development of it all so stop so pessimistic and swallow a happy pill
oh you fanny see my earlier post, and it is real ive tried them both. Its using Noveau Shader, the bloody source codes available, and
http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t+8364 shows the development of it all so stop so pessimistic and swallow a happy pill
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Re: Torch - 2007-12-02 |
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» genuine
this is genuine dude. been proved long ago. they've just developed it further right now by making abstraction libraries.
this is genuine dude. been proved long ago. they've just developed it further right now by making abstraction libraries.
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by Torch - 2007-12-02 |
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» Backups
Unfortunately it wont help backups/ISO loaders as the Game OS doesnt run under the hypervisor at all. Even if a game was loaded through this, it would hit performance too much.
Unfortunately it wont help backups/ISO loaders as the Game OS doesnt run under the hypervisor at all. Even if a game was loaded through this, it would hit performance too much.
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Re: Twenty-Se7en - 2007-12-02 |
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» Personally...
I hope they are never able to run backups on Linux (which seems like a possibility since it takes system resources to run the OS itself so any game would take a hit in performance). Piracy ruins the market. If you can download every game for the ps3 now, that's a few titles that would never see the light of day and many others that were produced with the loss in profit calculated into their development plan.
I hope they are never able to run backups on Linux (which seems like a possibility since it takes system resources to run the OS itself so any game would take a hit in performance). Piracy ruins the market. If you can download every game for the ps3 now, that's a few titles that would never see the light of day and many others that were produced with the loss in profit calculated into their development plan.
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Re: Canis Lupus - 2007-12-02 |
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» Major hit under the belt...
Yeah, with how expensive development for the PS3 is, piracy would cause some major damage. MGS4 has to sell quite a bit to cover development costs. But yeah...even if piracy comes up, hopefully it won't get to big because of the size of the ISOs.
10GB+? I don't think that's going to look attractive to anybody to download.
Yeah, with how expensive development for the PS3 is, piracy would cause some major damage. MGS4 has to sell quite a bit to cover development costs. But yeah...even if piracy comes up, hopefully it won't get to big because of the size of the ISOs.
10GB+? I don't think that's going to look attractive to anybody to download.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-12-03 |
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» Well..
Most people (and all hardcore pirates) have 10MBS + internet connections with 100+ gigs of bandwidth a month...
In the last two days i've downloaded 20 gigs of movies/tv shows.....I would put that towards a game no problem......the biggest hurdle actually would be dropping $1000 on a BRDR-ROM to burn them...
Most people (and all hardcore pirates) have 10MBS + internet connections with 100+ gigs of bandwidth a month...
In the last two days i've downloaded 20 gigs of movies/tv shows.....I would put that towards a game no problem......the biggest hurdle actually would be dropping $1000 on a BRDR-ROM to burn them...
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by 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-02 |
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The vids here guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJQkXmG6UTI
The vids here guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJQkXmG6UTI
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-12-02 |
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» Even That Video Is 2D
It is just a bunch of circles moving around giving the impression of a worm. They don't even scale in and out. They just move back and forth on the screen connected together. If the circles spun in 3D where they looked like a circle collapsing into an oval then that would be more convincing. Hell I would even think 1 circle doing that was more convincing than both of these videos.
It is just a bunch of circles moving around giving the impression of a worm. They don't even scale in and out. They just move back and forth on the screen connected together. If the circles spun in 3D where they looked like a circle collapsing into an oval then that would be more convincing. Hell I would even think 1 circle doing that was more convincing than both of these videos.
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-12-02 |
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» Oh Let Me Clarify What I Said
The circles don't move back and forth, they move side to side and up and down. Back and forth would be scaling.
The circles don't move back and forth, they move side to side and up and down. Back and forth would be scaling.
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Re: 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-02 |
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IM referring to the cube
IM referring to the cube
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-12-03 |
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» ahhh...
I love ignorant people that obviously have no idea about what they are looking at and then try to say it's "fake"
For your info chucking, there are MANY "2D" applications out there that use OpenGL and other 3D libraries to accomplish their feats.
Every program I wrote on the PSP (mainly Helicopter) used 3D funtions to portray a 2D scene....
The difference is that these people are using functions of the RSX to perform these operations (even if they are 2D looking) instead of writing software based rendering tools that the Cell would have to interpret...
I don't know why is surprises you guys.....it seems Sony didn't "cut" the RSX from linux, but just didn't provide any drivers for it.....there are TONS of smart people on ps2dev and it obviously was just a matter of time until they wrote their own toolchain for the PS3....just like they did for PS2 and PSP....
I love ignorant people that obviously have no idea about what they are looking at and then try to say it's "fake"
For your info chucking, there are MANY "2D" applications out there that use OpenGL and other 3D libraries to accomplish their feats.
Every program I wrote on the PSP (mainly Helicopter) used 3D funtions to portray a 2D scene....
The difference is that these people are using functions of the RSX to perform these operations (even if they are 2D looking) instead of writing software based rendering tools that the Cell would have to interpret...
I don't know why is surprises you guys.....it seems Sony didn't "cut" the RSX from linux, but just didn't provide any drivers for it.....there are TONS of smart people on ps2dev and it obviously was just a matter of time until they wrote their own toolchain for the PS3....just like they did for PS2 and PSP....
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-12-03 |
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» Shatterdome
I'm not saying it can't be done but the video of the spinning triangles and the worm don't prove anything yet unless the procedures for displaying them is revealed. That is all I am saying. I am sure someone will get it working.
I'm not saying it can't be done but the video of the spinning triangles and the worm don't prove anything yet unless the procedures for displaying them is revealed. That is all I am saying. I am sure someone will get it working.
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Re: 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-04 |
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For god sake im not talking about the worm im talking about the cube in the top left. The procedures are available. Its called source code and its out there. It uses the Noveau driver - a very respected shader so if you dont understand this now, i pity your small intelligence
For god sake im not talking about the worm im talking about the cube in the top left. The procedures are available. Its called source code and its out there. It uses the Noveau driver - a very respected shader so if you dont understand this now, i pity your small intelligence
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by ~~ - 2007-12-02 |
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» ~~
Nice..
Looking forward to emulators ^^
Nice..
Looking forward to emulators ^^
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by Stealth! - 2007-12-03 |
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» not true
Even if this is nothing good can come with it. I mean now hackers can screw around with the PS3. seriously why do you people think its great news.
But just cause someone made a video doesn't mean its true.
Even if this is nothing good can come with it. I mean now hackers can screw around with the PS3. seriously why do you people think its great news.
But just cause someone made a video doesn't mean its true.
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Re: tinglemaps - 2007-12-03 |
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» very low priced PC
You're thinking of this only in terms of gaming. I'm an animator, 2D and 3D and we have a PS3 in my office. We are eagerly waiting for the day when we can use the rendering power of the PS3 to expedite the animation process. We could get 10 PS3s for the price of 1 of our current PCs. That graphics processing power would really hit the spot for us.
You're thinking of this only in terms of gaming. I'm an animator, 2D and 3D and we have a PS3 in my office. We are eagerly waiting for the day when we can use the rendering power of the PS3 to expedite the animation process. We could get 10 PS3s for the price of 1 of our current PCs. That graphics processing power would really hit the spot for us.
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Re: 2.6,CRACKED! - 2007-12-03 |
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one, yes something good can from this.
IT IS REAL YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THIS. i just want to smack ignorant people like you, the information is there ffs.
one, yes something good can from this.
IT IS REAL YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THIS. i just want to smack ignorant people like you, the information is there ffs.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-12-03 |
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» tinglemaps....
Yeah, this will probably be the factor that makes me buy a PS3...
If they can gain access to the vid card, and theoretically the other 256mb of ram, I would love to see them support Linux versions of Photoshop, painter and even though i'm not into 3D that much i'd still like to see how well it could render/setup scenes in 3DS, lightwave etc....
It would also make a killer movie/sound editing box....where most funtions in those progs are straight number crunching, which PS3 rocks at....
Yeah, this will probably be the factor that makes me buy a PS3...
If they can gain access to the vid card, and theoretically the other 256mb of ram, I would love to see them support Linux versions of Photoshop, painter and even though i'm not into 3D that much i'd still like to see how well it could render/setup scenes in 3DS, lightwave etc....
It would also make a killer movie/sound editing box....where most funtions in those progs are straight number crunching, which PS3 rocks at....
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Re: Stealth! - 2007-12-04 |
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» tinglemaps
Ok but how does this benefit everyone else. This article makes it sounds like everyone will benefit, if its something like the F@H then i can see the benefits for everyone. Unless your trying to say that it will benefit animators who makes games, then i agree 100% with you.
Ok but how does this benefit everyone else. This article makes it sounds like everyone will benefit, if its something like the F@H then i can see the benefits for everyone. Unless your trying to say that it will benefit animators who makes games, then i agree 100% with you.
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by Mister Common Sense - 2007-12-03 |
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» cool
Does this need to be a certain firmware or Linux version I wonder???
Does this need to be a certain firmware or Linux version I wonder???
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Re: ks4life - 2007-12-03 |
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» no
i believe as long as u have a linux os running, u can run this
i believe as long as u have a linux os running, u can run this
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-12-03 |
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» Kinda...
No ordinary linux version works according to the article....
It says you need a version of linux with a specially modified kernel, as well as the know how to setup the linux environment to mirror theirs......not a noob procedure, definately hav e to know what you are doing in linux for this...
No ordinary linux version works according to the article....
It says you need a version of linux with a specially modified kernel, as well as the know how to setup the linux environment to mirror theirs......not a noob procedure, definately hav e to know what you are doing in linux for this...
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by Kingofdaberbz - 2007-12-12 |
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» ..............
i hope the ps3 get hacked soon cuz im not buying any games 4 my ps3,Ill only play backups or rentals maybe used games if dere really good games.
i hope the ps3 get hacked soon cuz im not buying any games 4 my ps3,Ill only play backups or rentals maybe used games if dere really good games.
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