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Team ICE and StreetskaterFU have announced that that they've found a method to execute unsigned code on retail Sony PlayStation 3 units running firmware 2.10. If this proves to be true, then we might be seeing PS3 homebrew soon. |
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[Via Team ICE webpage]
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looks pretty promising, hoping for homebrews soon
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Homebrew on the PS3 would be a pain. If you don't update, then you can't access the internet. Plus insomniac could make a patch and you can't play Resistance without it, and I bet you if this is credible then Sony's already caught wind of it and will make an update which blocks it before any credible hello world homebrew script is written, so almost everyone will update their PS3s before this code is written, meaning they would need to make a downgrader or keep on updating that infectus thing, but who really wants to pay a bunch of money to buy that thing online, wait a week or two for it to ship, open up their PS3 and attach it to stuff, and then downgrade it just to play an old super nintendo emulator on their PS3? And like others said, ISOs would be a bad idea. It would mean less programmers on board with the PS3. It would suck to get ISOs though since each Game has 50GB you would have to download. They would have to make a bittorrent homebrew program for the PS3, because transfering that from a computer would be a complicated task unless you had a portable hard drive. Even after that, you would only be able to fit one game on your PS3, and that's only if you have a 60GB, 80GB, or an upgraded HDD. So let's see... You would need to buy an external hard drive, the infectus downgrader, and be constantly waiting somewhere around a month after each official update for a homebrew-style update before able to access the internet. Good luck with that, you guys. I think I'll stick with a legit PS3.
First off, I imagine someone would come to the rescue quickly with a devhook type program. Secondly, games are nowhere near the 50 GB size at this point in time. For example, many games on PS3 are also on the 360. That means the size has to be around 9 gigs, maybe a gig more if the devs took advantage of it.
You also have obviously never heard of the PS2 homebrew HDL Server. You can network to a ps2 and transfer games.
Stop being so negative. Homebrew developers are very resourceful people, and you can preach your opinion all you want, but that won't stop and of us, because the fact of the matter is, homebrew is around mainly because the devs see it as a new challenge to take on.
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I really like homebrew news! hopefully this leads to something useful.
Ive been following the PS3 hacking scene for a long time now, and not much has occured. Finally something that looks promising :)
Well done team ICE
Nobody here really cares about running some homebrew programs at all. The PS3 already runs Linux and that alone allows you to run a million fold of programs of what the homebrew community can come up with.
Only thing people are interested in is finding a way to run game backups. Nothing more, nothing less.
The linux on the ps3 sucks so bad. Its nothing like real linux. There is no RSX access. There owuld be no point in homebrew if there was access to the RSX but there isnt. If we can run homebrew from the PS3 OS then it just makes it so much more user friendly and maybe even RSX access :)
I honestly will not steal PS3 games due to size and morality reasons... but I would LOVE being able to play nes, snes, etc without having to format my hard drive (I didn't do it when I first got my PS3, ah well)
People dont want to install Linux for Homebrew. They want it to be started from the PS3 OS.
what [Vee] said is absolutly right, but, im not sure people would want to mess with their ps3's ending up with a £300 brick. too dodgy imo.
We dont even know if it causes bricks yet.
There would be no use for homebrew if we had acces to the rsx. What a load of crap. The homebrew scene consists of emulators that can be run in a flash enviroment. Look, we have a Atari 2600 emulator running with games that can be played on millions of websites.
It's handier to first run homebrew, then a emulator and then start up the game you have to select from your harddrive. Bullocks and you know it. You just want to pirate games which is fine by me, but don't use any lame ass excuses. What's your next excuse, I want voip? lol.
Linux on PS3 can run a *****load of feautures and if you took a second to learn something about them you'd have a great system.
Well firstly its not possible to have iso's they would need to be compressed loads, you would need to buy a new harddrive to store more than 1. You cant exactly say the ps3 linux is great compared with what would be homebrew on ps3 os.
Well i hope this isnt fake, ive been waiting for real ps3 homebrew for some time. I dont like linux.
I hate linux, its the messiest ugliest OS I ever seen, and its buggs as hell on the PS3, it just none stop crashes. It takes to damn long to install. Not only that not every body wants to install it, or its to techinical for some people to know how to. I don't want it because I simply don't like it.
I want HOMEBREW and back-ups straight from the XMB. I like to test the games before I buy them, demos never give enough, If I like em I buy em, if I don't lets face it I keep em anyway until they are taking up to much space on my computer.
But I like homebrew as well, so its a broad statement to make that everybody who wants it from the XMB JUST wants back-ups they don't not everybody is techinically minded enough to know how to get linux installed or they just simply don't like it, just because you like it don't mean everybody does or should.
So you don't have any issues following the complicated instructions of installing homebrew, and yet installing Linux is to difficult?
You just want to get free games and that's it. It's fine by me, but don't give me that whining crap of not knowing what to do. If you really wanted homebrew you would have dived into the huge collection of it availible for Linux on the PS3. You are just using Homebrew as an excuse to discuss warez. Nothing more and nothing less.
I never said "I" couldnt install Linux, I have installed it in the past I DON'T like it.
You think installing homebrew is hard? if putting it on the PS3 is the same as putting it on the PSP then its just a case of copying one or two folders. If you find that hard I wonder how you even managed to turn your PS3 on when you got it, let alone install Linux.
I aint whining about anything, I just think a broad statement like you made earlier is wrong, not everybody wants XMB homebrew just to play back-ups, that's not a fare statmement to make, like I said I have no issues about playing back-ups I have and will do the same with the PS3 if the option becomes available. But not everybody who wants it in XMB will.
Its like saying "I hate cars, they are the ugliest vehicles ever".
There are fifty billion versions and flavors of linux, each one completely different from the others, some amazingly easy to use and some impossible.
Please remember, "linux is a category, not an OS".
Yes I know what Linux is and admittadley I have only tried YDL, but that took long enough to install, I aint for the time or patience to be trying any of the others. But my point remains the same, people don't want to spend all the time installing it or some people might struggle. Hey someone might even have tried the lot and still don't like it. Not everyone is the same.
Homebrew from the XMB would be an asset.
If homebrew appears on the ps3 it will ruin it like it did the psp.Piracy is rampant on the psp.It's already too expensive to develop on the ps3 and if piracy is widespread on ps3 the developers won't bother with the ps3.
Think about it, with all the ripkits and whatnot available for psp games nowdays, so many of the downloads are less than a gig, of course people will download them.
Why doesn't somebody create a simple ELF loader that runs under OtherOS? Maybe something that doesn't require the hard drive to be formatted, or Linux to be installed. Something like a port of PS2's LaunchELF.
By the way, there may be no RSX acceleration, but there is work on getting some acceptable 2D/3D graphics acceleration from the CELL SPEs. Once the driver is finished, homebrew, and even Linux, will be much better quality.
If they find a way to run backups you can say good bye to great games for the ps3. It will end up like the psp, a system with tons of potential but no one will touch because everything just gets pirated.
Also do not tell me that people would not pirate games since they are so big because RFOM is 15GB and people pirate 360 games that are about 9GB.
Id like to see a pirate of more devolped games like Uncharted, thats bearing in mind there demo was 2GB and that was one level and theres 20 odd chapters, that makes it 40gb. (Thats an estimate). RFOM was like the first game out and very rushed so thats why it isnt that large compared with ther games.
However you do have a point and it would drive away some developers.
what you mean get a revamped slimmer model with a 3rd gen in the works.
all consoles have had to deal with piracy.
the amount of people that actually know about iso loading (and homebrew) are minimal.
i expect if ps3 was exploited for iso loading and native homebrew support the result would be the same. alot of people would embrace it, but the majority wouldnt even know it exsisted.
Don't EVER trust a tip coming from PS3Hax.net. They're notorious for their bullsh*t. Every single "exploit" from there has been a hoax.
This "hack" has been proven false already: http://ps3news.com/PlayStation3/ICE_dethaws_old_RFOM_crash_claims_hack_LOL-1/
I Wouldnt Listen To PS3 News, Full Of *****ing Losers Who Post IP's...
PS3News' rebuttal was shown to be a hoax in this article..it's full of other good news on the guy that runs it too :)
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we need Custom firmware for the PS3!!!
so we can have nintendo wii emulators and old retro emus and ps1 ps2 games coz damn make a gd enough wii emu and syc a wii remote to the console and who knows we could have a fully working nintendo wiips3 :p
then go buy one.. why the hell would you put that on your ps3?
People are so cheap now a days. You say I want to "try out" the game b4 you buy it... But you know that you wouldnt buy a game at the store if you already have it for free lol, thats obvious.
tell me why i have ridge racer iso and umd then
same with MGS:PO
same with tekken DR
if MGS had of been as weak as metal gear acid.
the umd would be at the shop still
i own all the umds of the games i like.
sometimes its just easier playin the iso to see if its worth it
why pay $79+(AUD) for a game and relise its crap.
God, wouldn't it be neat to play PSP games on it?
If I like a game after I try it, I like to buy it so I got a collection. I done that all along. The problem is there are greedy people out there who don't buy them, and do just run off the copies.
Like I said above I do tend to keep them even if I don't like them though, just for something to go to when I get bored. When I need more space on my computer they get deleted.
What about all these people saying that piracy on the PS3 would make developers leave, even if an ISO loader did come, it might affect it but not as much as you guys are making out. The 360 is hacked and so it the Wii, do you see developers running away from them consoles because of it? No, enough said. All consoles will be hacked at some point or another and people will continue to play back-ups because of this, hacking and copying has been around since the earliest console, and the market has always continued to grow despite that, your making out like its a new thing.
The whole point is to stop this retarded hacking 5hit, How bout people learn to use there system for what it was meant for (not to be cheap and get free/old games). The PS3 is meant to play ps1, ps2, and ps3 games, Not gamecube or nintendo 64. And for the people who want to play those, find a damn nintendo 64 or gamecube and use it for what it was meant for.
Firstly I bet most of you people don't give 2 *****s about Homebrew, you just want to play pirated games.
It is a fact, any Homebrew access on the PS3 will lead to an ISO loader :(
Unfortunately for pirates it will only mean that you can run ISO games that were released from the time the PS3 came out, up to now.
Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to play ISO's you still need to be running the FW that the game requires. This exploit runs on FW 2.10 which means any game that requires up to FW 2.10 will work in an ISO loader.
Now,
In the next FW update, Sony will patch this hack making sure Homebrew/ISO loaders do not work. Newer games will then be released using this newer FW, but pirates won't be able to run these newer games in an ISO loader because their FW on their PS3 won't be high enough to run the game. So if they want to play the game they'll have to update - cutting off their access to Homebrew/ISO Loaders.
But just like the PSP, we had our tricks to get around it. Do you honestly think we stuck around 1.50 and only played launch titles? Hell no. We swapped PRXs, .bin files, we had devhook and multiple other ways/attempts to get around it.
But in all honesty, I don't want the PS3 hacked. I'm content with it as it is...unless a CWCheat or some other app like custom themes that go beyond .p3t, but like said before: it will all just end up into an ISO loader that will probably cut back on the amount of good games coming to the PS3.
The PS3 uses fat32 for its file system. This means you can't have files over 4GB on it... Which means no pirated games.
Still, I don't hope for a firmware hack, this would say: NO MORE ONLINE for the free net matchmaking:'(
I hope we'll see things like a fake "demo" or something, that, instead, is named like "IsoLoader", and that start the ISOs on the HD. That way, online would be there for our bought games, but we could also play downloaded games. :D The best of two worlds.
Still, this would make sony loose a couple of games sales, but I don't think it would really hurt then, I mean, the x360 is hacked, the wii is hacked, and the ps2 was hacked, but they all sold well, lol. (especially the ps2). Anyway you'd need an infinite connexion (internet) for 20-50 gig per game, lol. (or pay some 1-2$ for downloading too much, lol, 1-2$ for a game would still be cool).
Anyway I'd buy the games I relaly love, like the squeenix games, and GTA4, GT5, and some others. :D
The game ISO sizes are not that big yet. No developer has used the full potential they can. Not even the new GTA:IV because thats on the 360 so the max size it can be is 9GB.
Most games are 360 ports, so the max size for them is 9GB, and the games that are PS3 exclusive right now i dont think they go over 25GB.
Place it under rumours!
Listen: There will (most likely) NOT be illegal PS3 ISOs being played. The PS3 cant handle files over 4GB due to the fat32 file system. So the only real use for this would be for ps1 and 2 ISOs and other games, which I have no issue with people playing.
Just an off-topic comment about the music to this vid. The music is My Name Is Lincoln by Steve Jablonsky from the Michael Bay movie The Island. It sounds like music from Transformers because that was also a Michael Bay movie with music by Steve Jablonsky. Hans Zimmer (Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Pirates of the Caribbean, Prince of Egypt, Lion King, Batman Begins) is the mentor of Steve Jablonsky, so that also explains why there is a Zimmer feel to the music. :)
ooooooooooK! lol :P
alright, there has obviously been some video editing here because as you can clearly see during step 2, the ps3’s background changes from one killzone picture in the beginning, to another at the end
*slap* thats what themes do. My theme does that too.
ooops...
wow i had no idea the PS3 themes could do that...
THATS AWESOME!!!
We honestly don't need to boot unsigned code just to run ISO's ripped from retail games. The point of this is to open up the door to other things, like custom firmware, RSX access, Gaining complete access to all the SPU's, etc... Correct me if i'm wrong but it seems much more important having all the SPU's work as well as RSX access in order to run linux at normal speed, thus allowing us to run stuff like retail pc games. Yes I know people will want more and more but by the time we actually beat Sony with custom firmwares each time they update, we'll never see it. They learned their lesson, because PSP is practically opensource. PS3 going opensource would be a slap in the face. Homebrewing used to be underground. Now way too many people are involved in tinkering with consoles that it's gotten the attention of developers to start putting safeguards in to keep us out, to the point that companies like Sony have turned it into a fort knox.
The people saying that the ps3 runs fat32 on its hdd is keeping it at max of 4gb per file? Guess what, we can beat that anyways. When you pirates are downloading off megaupload, rapidshare or one of those http downloading sites, do you ever get the whole file? No...you get pieces. All we do is run code to link the files together. 4g+4g+~1g=full file. If you set pointers for the start and stop of a file, and the address of the start and stop of the next piece in the chain you have beaten that. It's not a difficult hack, we've done it forever. Wanna know what its called? Archiving. Dee da dee.
i hope u ppl if the ps3 gets cracked n runs hello world n that means it can run cfw n that means no more fat32 4gig limit it can be changed
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