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by d2d2 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» iasdasd
LoL
For me 360 version Core IS SUXXXXXXXx;;;
M$ it s crazy of create one console Non HD this newgen .
Much games in the future required HD .............
LoL
For me 360 version Core IS SUXXXXXXXx;;;
M$ it s crazy of create one console Non HD this newgen .
Much games in the future required HD .............
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Re: hahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Very easy to solve for Microsoft
All they have to do is release Xbox Super Elite for $599 which includes a blu-ray player for games and everything will be solved!!
All they have to do is release Xbox Super Elite for $599 which includes a blu-ray player for games and everything will be solved!!
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Re: Quixand - 2007-05-02 |
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» what the hell!!!
i don't have a problem with this!!!!
i've got a PS3!!!! i don't think i'll need to worry about it for a couple of years..
i don't have a problem with this!!!!
i've got a PS3!!!! i don't think i'll need to worry about it for a couple of years..
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Re: rew ewr (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» From Official Playstation Magazine, must be true EH!
YOu do realize this so called news comes from Official Playstation Magazine dont you?, what would you say if they said the opposite and it came from the official 360 magazine?, something like MS are using their money to pay Rockstar person to bull***** etc, FFS grow up and wait and see..
YOu do realize this so called news comes from Official Playstation Magazine dont you?, what would you say if they said the opposite and it came from the official 360 magazine?, something like MS are using their money to pay Rockstar person to bull***** etc, FFS grow up and wait and see..
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Re: xche78x (http://sw2.2ya.com) (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» Caution "Trolling Advised"
agreed on Quixand. having ps3 does make HD gaming easier. buy a game for it and enjoy. game programmers and consumers are really reaping some pleasure on sony PS3's design.
to mr hahaha, Xbox360 dont need Blu-ray it has its own HD-DVD drive, all they need to do is to make the 360 read HD-DVD games through its external HD_DVD drive add on. i think dual layer HD-DVD 30gb is sufficient to have the GTA4 complete content, but i doubt that the xbox 360 HD-DVD can be programed to be used properly with it because if it can then MS should have enabled it when the add-on was launched.
agreed on Quixand. having ps3 does make HD gaming easier. buy a game for it and enjoy. game programmers and consumers are really reaping some pleasure on sony PS3's design.
to mr hahaha, Xbox360 dont need Blu-ray it has its own HD-DVD drive, all they need to do is to make the 360 read HD-DVD games through its external HD_DVD drive add on. i think dual layer HD-DVD 30gb is sufficient to have the GTA4 complete content, but i doubt that the xbox 360 HD-DVD can be programed to be used properly with it because if it can then MS should have enabled it when the add-on was launched.
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Re: Manny151 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» To xche78x
Keyword addon not everybody has it and the're not going to make a game to play o an add on that not everybody has, genius!!!! And this was an interview by OPM not the opinion of OPM.
Keyword addon not everybody has it and the're not going to make a game to play o an add on that not everybody has, genius!!!! And this was an interview by OPM not the opinion of OPM.
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Re: whatever69 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» oh please
It wasn't a problem with Oblivion was it? So there ya go.....
It wasn't a problem with Oblivion was it? So there ya go.....
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Re: DATNIZZLE (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» oBLIVION?
I doubt there was a problem since, it was on the PC first, Than the 360. A dvd9 is enough for that game. Since Rockstar is making the game for both at the same time I'm sure it is hard to have all that space on a blu-ray and than try to fit it on dvd9. It's OK, 360 owners will be happy to pay for downloadable content to make up for a shorter game out the box. You got to love an Xboy, there's one born every minute.
I doubt there was a problem since, it was on the PC first, Than the 360. A dvd9 is enough for that game. Since Rockstar is making the game for both at the same time I'm sure it is hard to have all that space on a blu-ray and than try to fit it on dvd9. It's OK, 360 owners will be happy to pay for downloadable content to make up for a shorter game out the box. You got to love an Xboy, there's one born every minute.
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» LOL
yo if 360 gets blu-ray we might as well call it da Playstation 360
yo if 360 gets blu-ray we might as well call it da Playstation 360
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by damonous - 2007-05-02 |
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» It would be funny if...
...after all the calmoring and smack-downs that 360 fans have been yelling with regarding this game, if the release actually gets postponed or if Core owners would have to buy the hard drive just to play this game. The wisdom of the PS3 mandatory hard drive and BluRay might be proven with this game.
...after all the calmoring and smack-downs that 360 fans have been yelling with regarding this game, if the release actually gets postponed or if Core owners would have to buy the hard drive just to play this game. The wisdom of the PS3 mandatory hard drive and BluRay might be proven with this game.
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Re: Slipstream0 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Blu-Ray
I think the problems with blu-ray and gaming have been addressed by Oblivion. For those who dont know, they had to duplicate files in diffirent places on the blu-ray disk to allow it to stream files and have a reasonable load time due to the slow read speed compared to DVD.
So is more space worth it if you need to put the game on there 2-3 times to componsate for the slow read speed?
Google it if you dont believe me. I think the artivle was on IGN.
I do agree not requiring a HDD was stupid tho.
I think the problems with blu-ray and gaming have been addressed by Oblivion. For those who dont know, they had to duplicate files in diffirent places on the blu-ray disk to allow it to stream files and have a reasonable load time due to the slow read speed compared to DVD.
So is more space worth it if you need to put the game on there 2-3 times to componsate for the slow read speed?
Google it if you dont believe me. I think the artivle was on IGN.
I do agree not requiring a HDD was stupid tho.
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Re: meee (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» to Slipstream0
do you know what your tlaking about? the bluray drive speed is 2x yea. but its different when you compare it to the dvd. a 2x bluray is about equal to an 8x dvdv drive which is what the 360 has correct me if im wrong because im sure the numebrs are very close to that.
do you know what your tlaking about? the bluray drive speed is 2x yea. but its different when you compare it to the dvd. a 2x bluray is about equal to an 8x dvdv drive which is what the 360 has correct me if im wrong because im sure the numebrs are very close to that.
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Re: DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» yes meee your right.. kinda..
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format.
Caching thankfully minimizes either DVD or BD's shortcomings, and careful authoring on either format will help minimize speed issues. These technicalities shouldn't matter to a true gamer and any advantages in either format will in all likelyhood go unnoticed in any regard to the untrained.
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format.
Caching thankfully minimizes either DVD or BD's shortcomings, and careful authoring on either format will help minimize speed issues. These technicalities shouldn't matter to a true gamer and any advantages in either format will in all likelyhood go unnoticed in any regard to the untrained.
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Re: meee (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» see i knew i was close
wordd i jsut hate fanboys i own both systems and they are both great end of story
wordd i jsut hate fanboys i own both systems and they are both great end of story
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Re: dflek (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» to Slistream0
I saw the articles on read speeds as well (although also can't remember where). PS3 read speeds are well below that of the 360.
I have to admit that not making the HDD mandatory on the 360 was a rookie move though. Core users have to buy a $40 (AUD) memory card to save games anyways, so why not just charge a little more and add the hard drive?
I saw the articles on read speeds as well (although also can't remember where). PS3 read speeds are well below that of the 360.
I have to admit that not making the HDD mandatory on the 360 was a rookie move though. Core users have to buy a $40 (AUD) memory card to save games anyways, so why not just charge a little more and add the hard drive?
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Re: B4H4M00T - 2007-05-02 |
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» lolz
@Slipstream0 non need for dupe data the 4.3GB cache on the hdd solves the issue.. the game loads extremely fast and runs smoothly :)
@Slipstream0 non need for dupe data the 4.3GB cache on the hdd solves the issue.. the game loads extremely fast and runs smoothly :)
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Re: Matt (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Oblivion
the game's load times are the equivilent of that of the PC versions which means almost instant loads in some cases and almost always less than 5 seconds.
the game's load times are the equivilent of that of the PC versions which means almost instant loads in some cases and almost always less than 5 seconds.
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Re: Extinction (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» To SLipstream
"I think the problems with blu-ray and gaming have been addressed by Oblivion. For those who dont know, they had to duplicate files in diffirent places on the blu-ray disk to allow it to stream files "
That was denied by the developers. They simply install to the hard drive.
"I think the problems with blu-ray and gaming have been addressed by Oblivion. For those who dont know, they had to duplicate files in diffirent places on the blu-ray disk to allow it to stream files "
That was denied by the developers. They simply install to the hard drive.
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Re: SummerGamer (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» Wrong!
"Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed"
That's completely wrong. You're making the assumption that the DVD drive in the 360 is a standard 12x DVD drive, where the 12x speed is for single-layered discs, with dual-layered read at 8x or lower.
The DVD drive in the 360 is rated at 12x for dual-layered disks in the official specs. This is like many 16x DVD drives, where they read sl at 16x, but dl at 12x or less. Only dl disks are used on the 360, therefore it's 12x, but on the PC, the drive in the 360 would actually be a 16x DVD drive.
"Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed"
That's completely wrong. You're making the assumption that the DVD drive in the 360 is a standard 12x DVD drive, where the 12x speed is for single-layered discs, with dual-layered read at 8x or lower.
The DVD drive in the 360 is rated at 12x for dual-layered disks in the official specs. This is like many 16x DVD drives, where they read sl at 16x, but dl at 12x or less. Only dl disks are used on the 360, therefore it's 12x, but on the PC, the drive in the 360 would actually be a 16x DVD drive.
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Re: werw (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» LOOK AT NEWS SECTION PS3 sales are almost dead in USA now
The fuuny thing is look at the news section and look at the sales for the PS3 is the USA its now dieing there just like it is in Japan, so why dont you sad PS3 owners jump up that news like you do with any negative 360 news?.
The fuuny thing is look at the news section and look at the sales for the PS3 is the USA its now dieing there just like it is in Japan, so why dont you sad PS3 owners jump up that news like you do with any negative 360 news?.
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Re: Nerd - 2007-05-03 |
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» To SummerGamer
yes...you are right...except the dvd drive doesn't read at a constant 12x!! read DerDude's post above you fool!!
yes...you are right...except the dvd drive doesn't read at a constant 12x!! read DerDude's post above you fool!!
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» HD-DVD
Wen u buy a HD-DVD player 4 ur 360 da price becomes da same, but Blu ray 4 ur info is currently outselling HD-DVD, guess sony picked a good thing, and i think ull c dat with GTA and later games like Mgs4 n Killzone 2
Wen u buy a HD-DVD player 4 ur 360 da price becomes da same, but Blu ray 4 ur info is currently outselling HD-DVD, guess sony picked a good thing, and i think ull c dat with GTA and later games like Mgs4 n Killzone 2
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Re: SummerGamer (Unregistered) - 2007-05-05 |
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» Please just grow up Nerd!
"yes...you are right...except the dvd drive doesn't read at a constant 12x!! read DerDude's post above you fool!!"
Why do guys like you always have to resort to name calling and insults? Are you THAT immature and insecure? Let's get back to the discussion, without insults please.
I am fully aware of the performance of DVD drives thank you, but it is STILL an 12x dual-layer drive in the 360 and not 8x, and that's a BIG difference.
As I said, it is rated as 12x DVD dual-layer in the specs, and MS have stated this numerous times in interviews;
http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/support/xbox360/manuals/xbox360specs.htm
"12x dual-layer DVD-ROM"
So let's compare shall we.
2x Blu-ray reads at a constant 9MB/s.
1x DVD reads data at 11.08Mb/s.
12x DVD reads data at 132.96Mb/s (11.08*12), which is 16.62MB/s.
This is much faster than Blu-ray's 9MB/s, but this is on the outermost track. On DVD, without going into details, the innermost track reads at the speed of the outer track divided by 2.32, which is 7.16MB/s. Less than 2x Blu-ray of course.
However, this means that after the first GB of data has been read from DVD on the 360, the drive will now be performing at the speed of Blu-ray in the PS3, and data after that will be read progressively faster, hence above the speed of Blu-ray.
On average, the 12x DVD drive in the 360 will offer about 11.9MB/s. However, as seen last gen, devs can (and do) organise their data so that those they want to be read fastest are on the outer tracks of the DVD, hence improving the transfer speed performance quite significantly.
So whichever way you spin it, the DVD drive in the 360 offer much read performance than the Blu-ray drive in the PS3, and devs have confirmed this.
"yes...you are right...except the dvd drive doesn't read at a constant 12x!! read DerDude's post above you fool!!"
Why do guys like you always have to resort to name calling and insults? Are you THAT immature and insecure? Let's get back to the discussion, without insults please.
I am fully aware of the performance of DVD drives thank you, but it is STILL an 12x dual-layer drive in the 360 and not 8x, and that's a BIG difference.
As I said, it is rated as 12x DVD dual-layer in the specs, and MS have stated this numerous times in interviews;
http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/support/xbox360/manuals/xbox360specs.htm
"12x dual-layer DVD-ROM"
So let's compare shall we.
2x Blu-ray reads at a constant 9MB/s.
1x DVD reads data at 11.08Mb/s.
12x DVD reads data at 132.96Mb/s (11.08*12), which is 16.62MB/s.
This is much faster than Blu-ray's 9MB/s, but this is on the outermost track. On DVD, without going into details, the innermost track reads at the speed of the outer track divided by 2.32, which is 7.16MB/s. Less than 2x Blu-ray of course.
However, this means that after the first GB of data has been read from DVD on the 360, the drive will now be performing at the speed of Blu-ray in the PS3, and data after that will be read progressively faster, hence above the speed of Blu-ray.
On average, the 12x DVD drive in the 360 will offer about 11.9MB/s. However, as seen last gen, devs can (and do) organise their data so that those they want to be read fastest are on the outer tracks of the DVD, hence improving the transfer speed performance quite significantly.
So whichever way you spin it, the DVD drive in the 360 offer much read performance than the Blu-ray drive in the PS3, and devs have confirmed this.
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by dont need to know (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» was...
only a matter of time befor something like this happend. but who knows could be good or bad...
only a matter of time befor something like this happend. but who knows could be good or bad...
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by whoelse! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» :)
Thats why the PS3 is better!
Maybe the next GTA after IV will have to be PS3 only because of the limitations. Then there would be planes!
Thats why the PS3 is better!
Maybe the next GTA after IV will have to be PS3 only because of the limitations. Then there would be planes!
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Re: BObby (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» LOL
Thats why ps3 doesnt have 1 game over 9.0, except a 1 yr old port from Xbox 360. Nice! Its alot better. Xbox 360, Halo 3 , Gears of War , Mass Effect, Forza 2. All on one console. Killer
Thats why ps3 doesnt have 1 game over 9.0, except a 1 yr old port from Xbox 360. Nice! Its alot better. Xbox 360, Halo 3 , Gears of War , Mass Effect, Forza 2. All on one console. Killer
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Re: bobby youre an idiot (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» they
are tellin you they are having troubles with the retardness of M$ and you can only defend with "we have better games." In less than a year, what excuse will you have? Remember xbox screwed up and went a whole year earlier.
are tellin you they are having troubles with the retardness of M$ and you can only defend with "we have better games." In less than a year, what excuse will you have? Remember xbox screwed up and went a whole year earlier.
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Re: anon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» bobby are you retarded?
lol lemme get this straight you can dis a library that has a whole few months under its belt with games that havent even been released yet hmmm i think we should be able to add some games noone owns yet 2:)
lol lemme get this straight you can dis a library that has a whole few months under its belt with games that havent even been released yet hmmm i think we should be able to add some games noone owns yet 2:)
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» ...B0bby u dumbas5
How long has da 360 been out?... By da end of this year the ps3 will have Mgs4, Killzone 2, hevenly sword,and Home, n i kno these r not out now but u named Halo 3 in ur list...its not out yet, O n hav fun playing Gears of war with da lag problem
How long has da 360 been out?... By da end of this year the ps3 will have Mgs4, Killzone 2, hevenly sword,and Home, n i kno these r not out now but u named Halo 3 in ur list...its not out yet, O n hav fun playing Gears of war with da lag problem
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by Dan Houser (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» This
I NEVER said anything about the 360 having limitations. These folks jumped in between a conversation my team was having and misheard. We were talking about the cost of the PS3's Blu-Ray discs and how slow they are to load such a huge environment, that a block of the game will be installed on the PS3's hard drive, while on the 360 we don't really have to do that. They totally misinterpreted what we were referring to. Please ignore this "article". Thank you for supporting our company!
I NEVER said anything about the 360 having limitations. These folks jumped in between a conversation my team was having and misheard. We were talking about the cost of the PS3's Blu-Ray discs and how slow they are to load such a huge environment, that a block of the game will be installed on the PS3's hard drive, while on the 360 we don't really have to do that. They totally misinterpreted what we were referring to. Please ignore this "article". Thank you for supporting our company!
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Re: Nick (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Lmao...
Sounds like a sad 360 fanboy trying to stick up for the 360.
Sounds like a sad 360 fanboy trying to stick up for the 360.
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Re: Dom (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» LOL
Of course, Dan House will come UNREGISTERED to a stupid post your comments crap on QJ, kuz, you know, he doesn't have any better place to say this.
Of course, Dan House will come UNREGISTERED to a stupid post your comments crap on QJ, kuz, you know, he doesn't have any better place to say this.
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Re: Darsh (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» wow...
you fail at life.
you fail at life.
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Re: anon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» LOL xbots
LOL you know these xbots on our board really used to get me mad but as things start forming up and they get more and more desperate they have become just funny lol keep it up boys i need the laughs at work
LOL you know these xbots on our board really used to get me mad but as things start forming up and they get more and more desperate they have become just funny lol keep it up boys i need the laughs at work
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Re: Dan Houser (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» i forgot
o yea i forgot to say, i love anal lube.
o yea i forgot to say, i love anal lube.
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by cool (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» gta
take that all xbox360 fanboys
yes i love my ps3
take that all xbox360 fanboys
yes i love my ps3
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by El_Colombiano (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Go cry in your corner fanboy...
I knew this issue would eventually come up and bite the 360 in the as*...Microsoft really screwed up with having 9GB's for games...they really rushed the 360 out, it helped for a good while but now it's coming back to bite them in the as*....oh well, I'm sure to get a copy for both my beautiful consoles...
I knew this issue would eventually come up and bite the 360 in the as*...Microsoft really screwed up with having 9GB's for games...they really rushed the 360 out, it helped for a good while but now it's coming back to bite them in the as*....oh well, I'm sure to get a copy for both my beautiful consoles...
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-05-02 |
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» lolololol
You didn't even read this article did you? lolololol
I rarely have games on my PC that takes up past 5gbs on my hard drive.
This isn't about Optical storage issues, its about Rock Star worrying about the X360 CORE SKU having NO hard drive, and it looks like this game probably needs a hard drive for some of the in game features to work or even the game working fluently. Next time, Read up on what you are commenting on.
You didn't even read this article did you? lolololol
I rarely have games on my PC that takes up past 5gbs on my hard drive.
This isn't about Optical storage issues, its about Rock Star worrying about the X360 CORE SKU having NO hard drive, and it looks like this game probably needs a hard drive for some of the in game features to work or even the game working fluently. Next time, Read up on what you are commenting on.
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Re: DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» yeh...
xbox 720p
PS3 1080p
xbox 720p
PS3 1080p
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Re: Gamertag: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» !
PS3: 1080p
XBOX 360: 1080p
NOOB!
PS3: 1080p
XBOX 360: 1080p
NOOB!
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Re: billy (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Not quite right...
sorta, but not TRUE 1080p...I guess upscaling is good enough though.
sorta, but not TRUE 1080p...I guess upscaling is good enough though.
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Re: anon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» lol xbots2
lol ownd upscaling doesnt count if they didnt have to make games for both consols everything would be 1080p not 720 im really worryed that the xboxs limitations are going to hold down the quality of games for the ps3
lol ownd upscaling doesnt count if they didnt have to make games for both consols everything would be 1080p not 720 im really worryed that the xboxs limitations are going to hold down the quality of games for the ps3
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-05-03 |
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» enough!
Both consoles render at 720p native resolution, and can output at 1080p.
END OF DISCUSSION!
1080p native resolution may be possible down the road, but not any time soon.
Both consoles render at 720p native resolution, and can output at 1080p.
END OF DISCUSSION!
1080p native resolution may be possible down the road, but not any time soon.
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» ...
SILENCE EVERYONE THE SENSE OF WHICH IS KNOWN TO BE AS 'COMMON' HAS SPOKEN!!!
IF IT IS SPOKEN BY WHOM IS KNOWN TO BE AS THE MR OF COMMON SENSE THEN IT SHALL UNQUESTIONABLY BE SO!!!
DO NOT DARE TO DENY HIM!!!!!
(WHERE THE F--U--C--K ARE THE FACTS TO BACK THIS UP???? ESPECIALLY THE 360 SUPPORTING 1080P NATIVE RESOLUTION...???)
SILENCE EVERYONE THE SENSE OF WHICH IS KNOWN TO BE AS 'COMMON' HAS SPOKEN!!!
IF IT IS SPOKEN BY WHOM IS KNOWN TO BE AS THE MR OF COMMON SENSE THEN IT SHALL UNQUESTIONABLY BE SO!!!
DO NOT DARE TO DENY HIM!!!!!
(WHERE THE F--U--C--K ARE THE FACTS TO BACK THIS UP???? ESPECIALLY THE 360 SUPPORTING 1080P NATIVE RESOLUTION...???)
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by DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» zomg..
zomg OWNED
zomg OWNED
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by DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» zomg...
no rockstar would only have problems
with the disc capacity if they wanted GTA
to be uncompressed (but take a hint, we don't want slow loading games like the craptastic ps3)
no rockstar would only have problems
with the disc capacity if they wanted GTA
to be uncompressed (but take a hint, we don't want slow loading games like the craptastic ps3)
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Re: DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» yes... zomg OWNED
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format.
Caching thankfully minimizes either DVD or BD's shortcomings, and careful authoring on either format will help minimize speed issues. These technicalities shouldn't matter to a true gamer and any advantages in either format will in all likelyhood go unnoticed in any regard to the untrained.
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format.
Caching thankfully minimizes either DVD or BD's shortcomings, and careful authoring on either format will help minimize speed issues. These technicalities shouldn't matter to a true gamer and any advantages in either format will in all likelyhood go unnoticed in any regard to the untrained.
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Re: homie (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» huh
How old are you? "Craptastic?" Do you people actually use these terms? You would have got beat up in my neighbor hood. PS3 rulz and you just can't handle who is in authority. Just like Budweiser claims to be the king of beers, ms spouts about their dominance. All it is is a watered down wannabe.
How old are you? "Craptastic?" Do you people actually use these terms? You would have got beat up in my neighbor hood. PS3 rulz and you just can't handle who is in authority. Just like Budweiser claims to be the king of beers, ms spouts about their dominance. All it is is a watered down wannabe.
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-05-02 |
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» Great Lulz!
lol, Yeah, this kid may be young.
Good luck with your PSTriple Homie :-p
lol, Yeah, this kid may be young.
Good luck with your PSTriple Homie :-p
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» ummm..
slow load times...r u serious...My ps3 is fast as hell, u kno its stupid as hell to say bout load times, Wat do u want...1: wait for about 2 seconds mor to play ur full game, 2: let it load fast 4 halfas5 5hit, kinda reminds me of da 2 systems release dates, 360 came halfas5 witho out HD-DVD, or u waited alittle n got a PS3 with blu-ray, a FAN, Wi-Fi, n free online
slow load times...r u serious...My ps3 is fast as hell, u kno its stupid as hell to say bout load times, Wat do u want...1: wait for about 2 seconds mor to play ur full game, 2: let it load fast 4 halfas5 5hit, kinda reminds me of da 2 systems release dates, 360 came halfas5 witho out HD-DVD, or u waited alittle n got a PS3 with blu-ray, a FAN, Wi-Fi, n free online
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by Mackjack (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» xbox ppppffffff!!!
People still buying this piece of crap for halo3
did you heard the new sound of the new xbox 360 elite wow
and this fall you will buy a new version of 360 lol...
the super elite this time!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddxz4U__zg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fultimateps3%2Efr%2Fforums%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Fid%3D417
People still buying this piece of crap for halo3
did you heard the new sound of the new xbox 360 elite wow
and this fall you will buy a new version of 360 lol...
the super elite this time!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddxz4U__zg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fultimateps3%2Efr%2Fforums%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Fid%3D417
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-05-02 |
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» Fail
Failure for OLD video link.
even if it's a week old, I got near 8 friends who got elite (Not I, I got launch console, still standing no issues) and each and every single one of those elites have no sound issues and sound alittle bit more quiet then MY 360.
Sir, you are made of pure failure.
Failure for OLD video link.
even if it's a week old, I got near 8 friends who got elite (Not I, I got launch console, still standing no issues) and each and every single one of those elites have no sound issues and sound alittle bit more quiet then MY 360.
Sir, you are made of pure failure.
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Re: Dj Natas (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» M$ is going to lose the next GTA for sure!
Its all about the cache on the hard drive. Virtual ram any one. Thats why all the GTA games were better on the PC. This will come back to bite them in the Elite Hole for sure. Same thing was said by other developers like Square, Tecmo, and Namco. The only reason people are developing for both is production cost. Give Sony a year or two and it will be the same old story and more exclusives.
Its all about the cache on the hard drive. Virtual ram any one. Thats why all the GTA games were better on the PC. This will come back to bite them in the Elite Hole for sure. Same thing was said by other developers like Square, Tecmo, and Namco. The only reason people are developing for both is production cost. Give Sony a year or two and it will be the same old story and more exclusives.
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Re: jayhawker09 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» WTF
are you retarded? you do realize if they were producing for only one console the production costs would be cut in half? youre a moron. go ***** yourself
are you retarded? you do realize if they were producing for only one console the production costs would be cut in half? youre a moron. go ***** yourself
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» 360 elite
ur a dumbas5 4 buying mor memory, u dont hav a webbrowser on it so getting videos is hard, just wasted space in my opinion, N 360s copying lots of things...looks like dey can see how da PS3 did it rite there first time around
ur a dumbas5 4 buying mor memory, u dont hav a webbrowser on it so getting videos is hard, just wasted space in my opinion, N 360s copying lots of things...looks like dey can see how da PS3 did it rite there first time around
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Re: RickyREM (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15 |
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» elite
i saw that in the feed on G4 for none believers
i saw that in the feed on G4 for none believers
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by FiveWizz (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» why?
lol why are there more ps3 fans on this discussion board than 360 fans. and why do we have to get all up in each others a$$es about what console we have. i have a 360 and am looking forward to the game although this article makes me feel a bit shi7 about the implications it might have but oh well. I'm sure it will be an amazing game nevertheless on both consoles. i really hope it isn't but if its better on ps3 then good for you. we miss out slightly but im not in any way wishing i'd bought a ps3 instead. stop being douchbags
lol why are there more ps3 fans on this discussion board than 360 fans. and why do we have to get all up in each others a$$es about what console we have. i have a 360 and am looking forward to the game although this article makes me feel a bit shi7 about the implications it might have but oh well. I'm sure it will be an amazing game nevertheless on both consoles. i really hope it isn't but if its better on ps3 then good for you. we miss out slightly but im not in any way wishing i'd bought a ps3 instead. stop being douchbags
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» LMFAO!!!x10
Yo nuh duh theres mor PS3 fans heres... THIS IS PS3 updates dumbas5
Yo nuh duh theres mor PS3 fans heres... THIS IS PS3 updates dumbas5
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Re: Miyamoto (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15 |
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» FiveWizz
Im a PS3 fanboy!!!!!!
Im a PS3 fanboy!!!!!!
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by Dare (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» 360
what about the new version this fall
wifi maybe !!?
blue-ray a sorry!!lol hd dvd at last
you no PS3 check this out this fall!!! with home and little big planet and Grand Theft Auto 4 on blue-ray :)
PS3 rule already .
what about the new version this fall
wifi maybe !!?
blue-ray a sorry!!lol hd dvd at last
you no PS3 check this out this fall!!! with home and little big planet and Grand Theft Auto 4 on blue-ray :)
PS3 rule already .
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-05-02 |
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» LoL
Alright, PSHome is pretty much the "MMO" community "Second Life" only pretty much all Asians. (No real problem here) Little Big Planet? a side scrolling action adventure game. Sounds kinda original... I guess. GTA4 on Blu-Ray isn't much different then GTA4 on DVD.
Alright, PSHome is pretty much the "MMO" community "Second Life" only pretty much all Asians. (No real problem here) Little Big Planet? a side scrolling action adventure game. Sounds kinda original... I guess. GTA4 on Blu-Ray isn't much different then GTA4 on DVD.
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Re: DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» no wait I got it...
I really know what the next 360 gonna be calles:
Xbox 360 Wiifi - witha a new wireless controller called "elite nunchaku"
I really know what the next 360 gonna be calles:
Xbox 360 Wiifi - witha a new wireless controller called "elite nunchaku"
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Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» you
you sound like a blabbering idiot...if you're going to support something at least make sense(sheez, what a moron)
you sound like a blabbering idiot...if you're going to support something at least make sense(sheez, what a moron)
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Re: anon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» hmmm
i think org. poster might not be a native english speeker have a little tolerence for spelling/grammer and focus on the ideas being presented
i think org. poster might not be a native english speeker have a little tolerence for spelling/grammer and focus on the ideas being presented
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» Niteshade listen up ok
Home is a virtual world were u can chat n mk friends n 5hit...theres different servers da asian hav a different 1, ill b in my virtual Home playing Pool wit my duds chating away n ull b just looking at ur screen bored as hell, N i bet if sumthing like Home came to da 360 ull b happy as hell....ur just hateing on it cuz ur not gonna hav it, n 4 My little big planet...Das not really sumthing to brag about but it has crazy graphics, n Kid owners of a ps3 will have fun with dat
Home is a virtual world were u can chat n mk friends n 5hit...theres different servers da asian hav a different 1, ill b in my virtual Home playing Pool wit my duds chating away n ull b just looking at ur screen bored as hell, N i bet if sumthing like Home came to da 360 ull b happy as hell....ur just hateing on it cuz ur not gonna hav it, n 4 My little big planet...Das not really sumthing to brag about but it has crazy graphics, n Kid owners of a ps3 will have fun with dat
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by nightshade15 - 2007-05-02 |
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» Heh
For some reason I sometimes get the feeling that PS3 fan boys usually look something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25LceCPO1ys
We are talkin about the PS TRIPLE. >XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqr1r9jIU0s
and this is him trying to cover his own ass from the last video. *Sigh* Great lulz.
Someone please tell me other wise. (WARNING: VIDEOS NOT SAFE FOR BRAINS)
For some reason I sometimes get the feeling that PS3 fan boys usually look something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25LceCPO1ys
We are talkin about the PS TRIPLE. >XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqr1r9jIU0s
and this is him trying to cover his own ass from the last video. *Sigh* Great lulz.
Someone please tell me other wise. (WARNING: VIDEOS NOT SAFE FOR BRAINS)
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by meeee (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» IDIOTS
stupid people..."google it if you don't believe me" oblivion was better for ps3 anyway...i know that it had more dev time you *****s....this just goes to show you that the future for the ps3 is brighter.....
stupid people..."google it if you don't believe me" oblivion was better for ps3 anyway...i know that it had more dev time you *****s....this just goes to show you that the future for the ps3 is brighter.....
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by Franchise03 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» I EFFIN KNEW IT
I knew xbox would be ruining the ps3's version of this game...rockstar should just stay with dev on the ps3 then put it on like 2 dvds for 360...lol..
I knew xbox would be ruining the ps3's version of this game...rockstar should just stay with dev on the ps3 then put it on like 2 dvds for 360...lol..
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Re: xbox skrewed GTA4 !!! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» lol ye like:
left side of map (start city) on disk 1
right side of map (2nd city) on disk 2
i hate m$ big time
left side of map (start city) on disk 1
right side of map (2nd city) on disk 2
i hate m$ big time
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Re: Franchise03 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» xbox screwed it for ps3
lol i can just picture it...your driving...STOP! please insert disc two!...lol OMG way to kill one of the best games...
lol i can just picture it...your driving...STOP! please insert disc two!...lol OMG way to kill one of the best games...
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by NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» WHY?
WHY????? dammit o i guess i cant play this game on my xbox ohhh wait i have a ps3 DUH? hahahaha...lol thats why is always good to have all the systems!
WHY????? dammit o i guess i cant play this game on my xbox ohhh wait i have a ps3 DUH? hahahaha...lol thats why is always good to have all the systems!
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Re: datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» yep
That is the only way to ALWAYS come out ahead.
That is the only way to ALWAYS come out ahead.
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by senjutsu (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» stupid question
dah it limitate to have less, it's a stupid question, and it doesn't mean the xbox360 is inferior at all! He told that everyone had there own difficulties, I suppose the had a hard time at 1st with the ps3, and like everyone who wanna port x360/ps3 (or reverse order) they are having a hard time porting since the machines all totally different (multi-cores prossssor (8cpus), powerPC). But anyway, I'll have it on the ps3 since I'm not gonna own an xbox360 (already had some, now it's 6 feet under)
dah it limitate to have less, it's a stupid question, and it doesn't mean the xbox360 is inferior at all! He told that everyone had there own difficulties, I suppose the had a hard time at 1st with the ps3, and like everyone who wanna port x360/ps3 (or reverse order) they are having a hard time porting since the machines all totally different (multi-cores prossssor (8cpus), powerPC). But anyway, I'll have it on the ps3 since I'm not gonna own an xbox360 (already had some, now it's 6 feet under)
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Re: Extinction (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» and it doesn't mean the xbox360 is inferior at all!
Yes it does. That was the whole point he was trying to make.
Yes it does. That was the whole point he was trying to make.
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by Someone (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Red lights of death...
So, how many red lights these xbox 360 e-133t version has? My bet is 4, because it's e-133t...
So, how many red lights these xbox 360 e-133t version has? My bet is 4, because it's e-133t...
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by Razgoull (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» LOL ......funny
ok! It's true that the PS3 has better hardware feature for ambitious next-gen games. But xbox360 have more install base. So PS3 owner have to suffer from that. Don't get me wrong...M$ already prove that by releasing the X360 elite to get closer to the PS3 hardware. If it was not the case they didn't have made it...no. Why lose more money on fabric. It's a marketing shot! And if blu-ray win , trust me they will have a blu-ray add-on, and blu-ray drive in there next xbox.
Now for GTA IV it will be better on X360 even with those limitations. Why... because they already know the hardware ( tennis table...) So maybe xbox owners will have to switch disc for each island (joke), but it will run smoother.
Sony Fans have to wait there turn on this one.
ok! It's true that the PS3 has better hardware feature for ambitious next-gen games. But xbox360 have more install base. So PS3 owner have to suffer from that. Don't get me wrong...M$ already prove that by releasing the X360 elite to get closer to the PS3 hardware. If it was not the case they didn't have made it...no. Why lose more money on fabric. It's a marketing shot! And if blu-ray win , trust me they will have a blu-ray add-on, and blu-ray drive in there next xbox.
Now for GTA IV it will be better on X360 even with those limitations. Why... because they already know the hardware ( tennis table...) So maybe xbox owners will have to switch disc for each island (joke), but it will run smoother.
Sony Fans have to wait there turn on this one.
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Re: Littleshineredlightsofdeath (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Question...
How many red lights does your box has? Maybe M$ swaped the red lights to blue lights...
How many red lights does your box has? Maybe M$ swaped the red lights to blue lights...
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Re: Razgoull (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» uhmm...
I don't know I don't have an Xbox360. I have a PS3.
what do you think... I like to be futurproof too. :)
AND MKII online IS AWSOME!!!!!
I don't know I don't have an Xbox360. I have a PS3.
what do you think... I like to be futurproof too. :)
AND MKII online IS AWSOME!!!!!
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-05-03 |
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» .
Why do the PS3 fans make it out like every 360 fails?
They're jealous of the 360's success, plain and simple.
The 360 version of GTA will have downloadable content, while the PS3 version will not. That is the biggest difference between the two.
Why do the PS3 fans make it out like every 360 fails?
They're jealous of the 360's success, plain and simple.
The 360 version of GTA will have downloadable content, while the PS3 version will not. That is the biggest difference between the two.
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Re: datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» More non"sense"
Yeah you get to pay for extra missions. You are soo lucky. It would suck if your console had some kind of "next-gen" Media format that could hold more than just a dvd9....wait for it.....Oh that's right the ps3 does that already. Why do you think it went from "both games will be the same except the 360 will have downloadable content" to "the games will be different following the opening mission strand" because they can and probably will add more to the ps3 version, just because they can.
Yeah you get to pay for extra missions. You are soo lucky. It would suck if your console had some kind of "next-gen" Media format that could hold more than just a dvd9....wait for it.....Oh that's right the ps3 does that already. Why do you think it went from "both games will be the same except the 360 will have downloadable content" to "the games will be different following the opening mission strand" because they can and probably will add more to the ps3 version, just because they can.
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by 360 fan (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» ROFL
Oh, its nice to finally see PS3 owners jumping for joy, it really is. Congradulations!
Of course, rockstar failed to mention that they will also have an enormously easier job of meeting their goal of "no-loading-screens" with the 360, as opposed to the PS3 trying to load gigs of data off of a 2x drive.
Oh, its nice to finally see PS3 owners jumping for joy, it really is. Congradulations!
Of course, rockstar failed to mention that they will also have an enormously easier job of meeting their goal of "no-loading-screens" with the 360, as opposed to the PS3 trying to load gigs of data off of a 2x drive.
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Re: Franchise03 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» ROFL at you..
Read above...they come out to the same read speed at the end of the day...what sucks is xbox killed it for ps3
Read above...they come out to the same read speed at the end of the day...what sucks is xbox killed it for ps3
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Re: littleshinyredlightsofdeath (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» ?
I rather watch loading screen instead of watching $500 red lights on my console...
I rather watch loading screen instead of watching $500 red lights on my console...
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Re: Gamertag: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» :D
BD 2x [more data to load + slower disc speed + DUPLICAE DATA! [whats the point of more space???}]
BD 2x [more data to load + slower disc speed + DUPLICAE DATA! [whats the point of more space???}]
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Re: Extinction (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Too bad for you....
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format
A 12x CAV drive like the one in the 360 will be 12x speed for around 15% of the outer disc, that figure is peak performance. The closer to the inner ring it gets the slower accesses get (5x speed on the inner ring) - probable average: around 8x speed. Another interesting thing seems to escape everyone is that the 12x DVD drive in the 360 only reads dual layer discs at a maximum of 8x speed. As it was in single layer, the 8x speed is peak performance. The 2x speed BD drive performs quite well in this case: a BD25 on PS3 fares better than a DVD9 on the 360. The great majority of 360 games are and will be pressed on DVD9s. Another interesting point with existing CLV BD drives is that they do not have the dual layer penalization with DVD dics. If a BD drive is rated to read DVDs at 8x, it will read dual layer DVDs at 8x as well. This is why Sony is comfortable with its choice and knows it will hold its own against MS's choice in the DVD format
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Re: Emotionless- (Unregistered) - 2007-05-04 |
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» 360 fan u listen up 2
ok u act like da ps3 is dat slow..no its not, n Who givs a 5hit bout dat, Do u want a full game, or a halfas5 1 with about 2 seconds faster load times?... n thanks 4 da congratulation, mks me feel like da Ps3 n 360 ppl r finally getting along...lol
ok u act like da ps3 is dat slow..no its not, n Who givs a 5hit bout dat, Do u want a full game, or a halfas5 1 with about 2 seconds faster load times?... n thanks 4 da congratulation, mks me feel like da Ps3 n 360 ppl r finally getting along...lol
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by Quixand (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» i own 360 but...
wow..this sounds really bad...i felt like crap buying the 360 is the first place..
wow..this sounds really bad...i felt like crap buying the 360 is the first place..
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Re: Quixand - 2007-05-02 |
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» you are just a sad...
to think u shud hav enough brains to think of ur own name...
to think u shud hav enough brains to think of ur own name...
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by ...... (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» .....
This post just attracts a dumb debate. most if not all of the people leaveing coments don't understand what is really going on------------consol games are allways crapy compard to pc games and its still true. ------------If its not released on PC someday I will be sad.
This post just attracts a dumb debate. most if not all of the people leaveing coments don't understand what is really going on------------consol games are allways crapy compard to pc games and its still true. ------------If its not released on PC someday I will be sad.
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by Pwnerer... (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» So why...
...why Xbox 360 has better games than PStriple?
Lol, even with your blu-ray thingy with 50 gigs you can´t do a game with proper textures in the Pstriple...
Lair, Hevenly Sword, Resistance... all these games have textures that look like *****. Gears of War is still the game with best graphics in consoles.
So f$ck you Sony Boys, Xbox 360 F$cking ownz. And the GTA4 Xbox 360 version will be the best version. Acheivements!!!1
...why Xbox 360 has better games than PStriple?
Lol, even with your blu-ray thingy with 50 gigs you can´t do a game with proper textures in the Pstriple...
Lair, Hevenly Sword, Resistance... all these games have textures that look like *****. Gears of War is still the game with best graphics in consoles.
So f$ck you Sony Boys, Xbox 360 F$cking ownz. And the GTA4 Xbox 360 version will be the best version. Acheivements!!!1
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Re: Barakku - 2007-05-02 |
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» PS what?
What's up with the "PS Triple" stuff? Is there actually a reason, or is this just the new "gaystation" or "Wiicube" term?
What's up with the "PS Triple" stuff? Is there actually a reason, or is this just the new "gaystation" or "Wiicube" term?
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Re: #1 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» ur dumb..
haha.. You do know that the ps3 have better graphics and all.. even with the new "elite" thingie they still cant be compared with PS3..
Oh and btw.. why are there so many PS3 fans here? its simple.. because there are more PS3 fans than 360 fans.. They are just waiting for the price to drop........
haha.. You do know that the ps3 have better graphics and all.. even with the new "elite" thingie they still cant be compared with PS3..
Oh and btw.. why are there so many PS3 fans here? its simple.. because there are more PS3 fans than 360 fans.. They are just waiting for the price to drop........
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by slomo (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» You know what's funny?
360 fans trying to make it sound like a bad thing that they had to duplicate data for Oblivion on the disc and that you have to install a part of the game on the HDD. Well that's another reason to have Blu-Ray and 60 GB: so you can have a better game like the PS3 version.
Also: WHERE THE F*** IS MISTER COMMON SENSE???
360 fans trying to make it sound like a bad thing that they had to duplicate data for Oblivion on the disc and that you have to install a part of the game on the HDD. Well that's another reason to have Blu-Ray and 60 GB: so you can have a better game like the PS3 version.
Also: WHERE THE F*** IS MISTER COMMON SENSE???
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» Well, it's a funny story actually...
My 360 broke a few weeks back and I had do ship it off to M$ for repair. They've since fixed it but now require payent for their shoddy repair job before they will ship it back to me.
Of course I do not have enough cash to cover the repair because I still live at home with my mommy (if I had any money I would've bought a PS3 instead... duh).
So right now I've been working it off with the help of my best buds, getting bent over the arm of my mothers soft leather couch and earning $0.05 for every @ss packing session they have at me. I'm up to $20 right now, and plan on having enough to pay for the repair in a few more days.
We'll see if my @ss can keep up with the demands, it sure is sore.
My 360 broke a few weeks back and I had do ship it off to M$ for repair. They've since fixed it but now require payent for their shoddy repair job before they will ship it back to me.
Of course I do not have enough cash to cover the repair because I still live at home with my mommy (if I had any money I would've bought a PS3 instead... duh).
So right now I've been working it off with the help of my best buds, getting bent over the arm of my mothers soft leather couch and earning $0.05 for every @ss packing session they have at me. I'm up to $20 right now, and plan on having enough to pay for the repair in a few more days.
We'll see if my @ss can keep up with the demands, it sure is sore.
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» Well, the ASS HOLE IS BACK!
HOW YOU DOING ASS HOLE?
I can see you have even more free time than ever.
My console I got back last march is still working fine. Why aren't you playing your awesome selection of 2 PS3 games? DO SOMETHING ELESE WITH YOUR BOREDOM, LIKE BLAME YOUR ASS BUDDY KEN KUTARAGI! HE'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE YOU A PS4 THAT COSTS $1000 AND PUSHES SONY'S NEW PURPLE RAY FORMAT THAT USES 500GB DISCS!
HOW YOU DOING ASS HOLE?
I can see you have even more free time than ever.
My console I got back last march is still working fine. Why aren't you playing your awesome selection of 2 PS3 games? DO SOMETHING ELESE WITH YOUR BOREDOM, LIKE BLAME YOUR ASS BUDDY KEN KUTARAGI! HE'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE YOU A PS4 THAT COSTS $1000 AND PUSHES SONY'S NEW PURPLE RAY FORMAT THAT USES 500GB DISCS!
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» Now Now...
Somebody a lil touchy today? Yes I believe somebody is...
Why don't you just go grab one of your mindless, shallow DVD9 games to play with dated technology from back the 90's, that outta make you feel lots better!
Ciao +)
Somebody a lil touchy today? Yes I believe somebody is...
Why don't you just go grab one of your mindless, shallow DVD9 games to play with dated technology from back the 90's, that outta make you feel lots better!
Ciao +)
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by Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Bad things don't happen to the 360
I haven't commented because this is obviously a lie, if you actually knew anything at all you'd know the 360 is perfect in every way and anything even remotely criticizing the 360 is a complete lie. It's actually the PS3 that Rockstar is having trouble getting GTA4 to work on, it's just a mis-print. Nothing bad can happen to Microsoft.
I haven't commented because this is obviously a lie, if you actually knew anything at all you'd know the 360 is perfect in every way and anything even remotely criticizing the 360 is a complete lie. It's actually the PS3 that Rockstar is having trouble getting GTA4 to work on, it's just a mis-print. Nothing bad can happen to Microsoft.
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» da mimic
lol... good one... ;-)
lol... good one... ;-)
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Re: Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» Bad things do happen to the 360
Yes they do. Have you heard about "the rings of death"? Overheating problems?
The xbox 360 is overated...
Yes they do. Have you heard about "the rings of death"? Overheating problems?
The xbox 360 is overated...
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-05-03 |
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» .
Did any bad things happen to the PS3?
Are you sick of the 2 remotely entertaining games yet?
Is the PS3 somehow NOT overrated?
I mean, it's more relaible, but what the hell is it good for?
Of course something that never gets used and has only been out for 5 months is going to be more reliable.
Did any bad things happen to the PS3?
Are you sick of the 2 remotely entertaining games yet?
Is the PS3 somehow NOT overrated?
I mean, it's more relaible, but what the hell is it good for?
Of course something that never gets used and has only been out for 5 months is going to be more reliable.
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Re: datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» LOL LOL
Non"sense" is so busy playing his 360 that he trolls ps3 news. In case you didn't know being more reliable (I spelled it right btw) means you are not sending it back to get fixed. That allows you to actually play games, it would also curb some of your trolling.
Non"sense" is so busy playing his 360 that he trolls ps3 news. In case you didn't know being more reliable (I spelled it right btw) means you are not sending it back to get fixed. That allows you to actually play games, it would also curb some of your trolling.
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by Anon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» that didnt take long
well i knew that in the end the foward thinking behind the ps3 would really shine through but this fast wow cant wait things can only go up and up from here im gonna love watching all these people talking trash eatting there words lol
well i knew that in the end the foward thinking behind the ps3 would really shine through but this fast wow cant wait things can only go up and up from here im gonna love watching all these people talking trash eatting there words lol
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by Mackjack (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» xbox 360
Anyway just try to transfer your save game or profiles on other storage with a
xbox 360 and its suppose to be easy!!? lol
with there new cable :)
Me just put my duo stick on ps3 and save my thing that it!
OH i love to says my stick on ps3 :) maybe some day!!!!
Anyway just try to transfer your save game or profiles on other storage with a
xbox 360 and its suppose to be easy!!? lol
with there new cable :)
Me just put my duo stick on ps3 and save my thing that it!
OH i love to says my stick on ps3 :) maybe some day!!!!
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» yeah it's easy on the 360 too
I got the datel Xport hard drive docking station and I can transfer all my game saves between memory cards on the original XBOX or 360 and hard drive easily.
I got the datel Xport hard drive docking station and I can transfer all my game saves between memory cards on the original XBOX or 360 and hard drive easily.
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Re: datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» Choices
Did you have to buy another pesky add-on? Of course you did, you bought a 360. BTW did you just shoot a commercial for that thing.
Did you have to buy another pesky add-on? Of course you did, you bought a 360. BTW did you just shoot a commercial for that thing.
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by Alex (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Wow
Have your *****s ever seen the inside of a *****? Nerds, man.
Have your *****s ever seen the inside of a *****? Nerds, man.
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by AoxomamoxoA (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» Only CORE 360s, nothing more.
This comes from Official Playstation Magazine, a magazine officially licensed by Sony, so Im betting its just ANOTHER bull***** lie that sony is trying to pull.
In the end it wont matter, because despite the Core having no HDD (and who buys the Core without buying the HDD anyways? wtf), Rockstar will still be making the game flawlessly on the Premium and Elite consoles.
Not only that but Im sure just as every single other multiplatform game released between PS3 and Xbox 360, the 360 version will not only look better (SCDA anyone?), but it will also play better since almost every PS3 game has framerate issues.
So while you PS3 *fanboys* have your day in the sun now, we 360 fans will remember today and be sure to throw it right back at you when our version is ultimately better like always.
Sad, especially concidering half of you tards dont even know what youre bashing about. The article only states that theyre having trouble with the CORE 360s, and almost no one has a Core anyways.
This comes from Official Playstation Magazine, a magazine officially licensed by Sony, so Im betting its just ANOTHER bull***** lie that sony is trying to pull.
In the end it wont matter, because despite the Core having no HDD (and who buys the Core without buying the HDD anyways? wtf), Rockstar will still be making the game flawlessly on the Premium and Elite consoles.
Not only that but Im sure just as every single other multiplatform game released between PS3 and Xbox 360, the 360 version will not only look better (SCDA anyone?), but it will also play better since almost every PS3 game has framerate issues.
So while you PS3 *fanboys* have your day in the sun now, we 360 fans will remember today and be sure to throw it right back at you when our version is ultimately better like always.
Sad, especially concidering half of you tards dont even know what youre bashing about. The article only states that theyre having trouble with the CORE 360s, and almost no one has a Core anyways.
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Re: hahahha (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» haha
"and who buys the Core without buying the HDD anyways? wtf)"
the same type of people who settle for a 20GB ps3. but the ps3 still has a HDD in it. So when 360 fans bash the 20GB ps3 cuz its discontinued... we can all look back at this quote and know that the 20GB ps3 doesnt suck since it was discontinued...thanks for clarifying
"and who buys the Core without buying the HDD anyways? wtf)"
the same type of people who settle for a 20GB ps3. but the ps3 still has a HDD in it. So when 360 fans bash the 20GB ps3 cuz its discontinued... we can all look back at this quote and know that the 20GB ps3 doesnt suck since it was discontinued...thanks for clarifying
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Re: 456878 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» NO
Rockstar can't use the hard disk in any 360 game for full 100% Cache. You see game developers like Rockstar don't know exactly how many people own the Core or Premium or Elite. So they don't know exactly who is going to be playing the game on their 360 using the hard disk or not. On the other hand every PS3 ever made has a hard disk. So the PS3 version will be the one with the advantage on using the hard disk as cache.
Rockstar can't use the hard disk in any 360 game for full 100% Cache. You see game developers like Rockstar don't know exactly how many people own the Core or Premium or Elite. So they don't know exactly who is going to be playing the game on their 360 using the hard disk or not. On the other hand every PS3 ever made has a hard disk. So the PS3 version will be the one with the advantage on using the hard disk as cache.
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Re: dumb**** (Unregistered) - 2007-05-03 |
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» cache
oblvivion uses the cache on the hdd on the 360. know your stuff before you post ****
oblvivion uses the cache on the hdd on the 360. know your stuff before you post ****
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by RazeR (Unregistered) - 2007-05-02 |
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» ...
is it just me or nobody here can spell... i can't understand a damn thing some people say or type, like this fool... "OH i love to says my stick on ps3 :) maybe some day!!!!".. is he saying he loves to play with his little stick?..
anyway, you know whats funny with all this ranting about the 360? the demos and previews coming out from it are from the 360.. ironic dont you think?...
is it just me or nobody here can spell... i can't understand a damn thing some people say or type, like this fool... "OH i love to says my stick on ps3 :) maybe some day!!!!".. is he saying he loves to play with his little stick?..
anyway, you know whats funny with all this ranting about the 360? the demos and previews coming out from it are from the 360.. ironic dont you think?...
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