Posted May 14, 2007 at 06:29AM by Ryan C. Listed in: Rumors, Games Tags: Konami
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Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 - Image 1


Rumor has it that Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 for the Playstation 3 would not only be considerably prettier than the Xbox 360 version, but significantly superior - up to three times the quality. This comes from an E-mpires forum boards poster by the handle of Shodan, who quotes a Korean Konami insider's blog (there's also talk about a confirmed Final Fantasy VII remake).

It's a possible theory backed up by some unconfirmed factoids: that Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 would benefit greatly from the large-capacity Blu-Ray format - the popular football game predicted to take up at least 18 GBs' worth of space. There's also the superior framerate the Playstation 3 version would also have, as well as online connectivity.

It's surprising that Konami let this much information slip out, so the veracity of the news is suspect. We can only wait for further developments, and we'll be sure to update you as we get them.


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   by dumb ass etardz (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » retardz

games like resistance, take up 16 gigabytes and if it wasnt all converted down, it would have taken up 22 gigs................so dont say there never going to use up space

   by no leagues on fifa 07 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » ^

in response to -why not- "Just look at FIFA and PES for the 360 - they miss a lot of leagues ect. " pes never had many leagues on any versions on the consoles and fifa 07 had a completly new physics engine exclusive to the next gen console out when it was released funnily enough it was the xbox 360 out then. samsung or some other company has developed 51gb hd discs so if the 360 had a hd drive it could fit in the 18gb easily.

   by yerp (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » huh

why do you guys care about some stupid soccer game for?

   by why why why (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » ..

why is it that 360 fanboys TRY to bring up relevant negatives to ps3(forced purchase of Blu-ray, bad system architecture and an even worse online strategy) and all ps3 fan boys do it is call people xbots and such? Oh yea its because anyone with half a brain and the money to buy a ps3 wouldnt buy one. Sony fanboys are either notoriously ignorant and to poor to buy a ps3 or there rich mommy/daddy went out and bought them one for Christmas. Time to wise up, your extra money was invested in a forced hd media format. I also find it funny that last years e3 ubisoft got payed to claim Assassins creed was only capable with the power/storage space the ps3 has and sony fanboys bought it and stood by it now that ubisoft is doing the same thing for microsoft(in a much more believable manner..they just dont want to work with the ps3 architecture) all the ps3 peeps freaked and called them liars/lazy and such. Seriously take a deep breath and pull sonys Kock out of anus, its been there far too long im sure its getting sore.


   Re: Folding Junkie! - 2007-05-14
 » What?

You are just a regular 360 owner but you have that much to say? You don't think that we can't tell that you are a 360 fanboy too? I mean you didn't really think that little smokescreen at the beginning of your post really threw anyone off course do you?

The only mention of 360 fanboys in your your post talks about the supposed crap they say. Then the rest of your post is about how much the PS3 sucks. You are a loser! I not only have a full brain and the money, but I am actually glad that I bought a PS3. I am sorry to rain on your parade but you deserve it.

You had just better hope that the cheapest BD player, which is also your consoles competition, doesn't flood the market with consoles purchased primarily for BD right now. Wouldn't that suck for you? That would give the game studios a huge PS3 market to sell to making much it more valuable to them to do so. Most of the lost exclusives that you 360 fanboys like to preach about are simply due to a smaller, and therefore less profitable, consumer base. They didn't teach you things like that in economy class? You don't start a company to lose money. You start a company to make it! When you are publicly shared your shareholders also demand it!

Keep bashing that which you fear because that is your only hope to keep it down. It is worth every penny I spent on it. I have no regrets whatsoever. Scratch that! I regret spending so much time responding to a loser like yourself because I did buy one.

P.S. Let me guess you are going to tell me that you are one of these guys that doesn't have a Next-Gen at all you just like to point out crap when you see it. Well save your time! That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time and I just pointed at some crap. Yup! You got it! The crap in question is your entire post.
   by zeka (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » no suprise

really theres no suprise i mean gay games should be better for the gayer system

   by Felch (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » WOW

I heard the ps3 version also makes you more toned and athletic whilst playing.

WOW!


   Re: kniteowl - 2007-05-14
 » Nowai!

No... that's the Wii one where you have to kick that Wiimote around... Remember the Wii version will be 20 times better than the GBA version.
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   by Ritterrav (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » wow

wowowowowowow, ok, im a PS3 fanboy.
But wow, what balls on this guy to say it will be 3 times better, what are you comparing it to? what are your facts? why will it be '3' times better?

what pisses me off is that, ps3 fanboys who make ***** up, set the rest of us with intelligent argument back to hell, like we are all little kids.

BUT! If this info (from a credible source) were to be true, then i dont want to hear the 360 fanboys starting to say oh konami's does not know what thier talking about and bla bla, uhhh, THEY MADE THE FREAKING GAME< THEY KNOW WHAT THIER TALKING ABOUT!!!!!! But then again thats only if konami's says that, not some ps3 fanboy who's balled havent even dropped... I guess I MIGHT see why it might be better IF the space on the blue-ray versus the 360 disc has somthing to do with it, but i dont see how that would be a prob for the framerate... Unless it was especially made for the PS3 using the cell to new highs and then they did a *****tY job porting it over to the 360.

Please come on guys i am a PS3 fanboy, but please dont make childish comments.


   Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-05-14
 » Unicorn

Seeing a sony fan post something like you did is almost like seeing a unicorn in the forest, awesome! Much respect man, much respect...
   by ??Rictropes?? (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » >?

well, i find it funny how every time some good news comes out for the ps3, the xbots rush to the scene and try to deny every single aspect of the good news.
its time to grow up xbots, i have all 3 consoles, and so far, at the rate its going, ps3 games will outclass 360 games by the begnning of next year at the most.

   by Felch (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » Have both

I have both systems and they are great in their own way, I personally play 360 more as I like the online gaming on there, dont be fanboys, dont be fooled into stoopid arguments about 'BETTER THAN YOUR SYSTEM', have the brains to take in the facts and come up with rational conclusions. Have your opinion yes but have a well informed, rational and 'I'm older than 5' opinion.



   Re: Folding Junkie! - 2007-05-14
 » Wow!

That is definitely one of the most intelligent posts I have yet read today. Thanks for showing the common sense that I wish more people had.
   by Awesome (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » Awesome

Well this is not a surprise. It's bound to happen

   by why why why (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » lol no next gen?

Actually as of right now I own a 360(love it thus far although i dont play it THAT often) a wii(serious potential but i havent played it since i beat zelda) and my PC(core2duo e6600@3.2ghz, 2gig ddr 800 4-4-4-12 timing ram, 8800gtx@stock speeds and a raptor for all my games and what not. I will NOT say i dont own a next gen system and wont lie that i am a bit biased towards the x-box. Your whole statement about my "smokescreen"...wtf are you talking about what i said about x-box fan boys was hardly even negative. So how was it a smokescreen.

About your whole comment with the cheapest bd players being competition to the 360 and giving game studios a larger market to sell to. I think your confused, or i am, wouldnt a Blu ray player thats cheaper then the ps3 be a bad thing for the ps3? I mean it would make it so there a more viable bd player for less meaning less sales of ps3's due to it being the "cheapest" blu ray player. And really i worked in a gamestop for 3 years up until recently(terrible company never work for them btw) and the majority of people who would rave the ps3 as the greatest thing ever were exactly what i said they were, either too young to know any better or too ignorant and poor to afford it anyway. Please stop telling me I "fear" the ps3. I just see it as a entirely bunk machine that does very little more then a system that costs 200 dollars less. Most of my post is actually supposed to come off as crap btw, its called flaming? And again ill say i do own a 360 and a wii i just stick to my pc gaming.


   Re: Stop trying... (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » to validate yourself.

No one cares...

   Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-05-14
 » yup yup

I agree about the age thing man. Im 27 and of course I was playing games way before playstation hit the scene. To me, ps seems like a fad in the industry that only the younger croud adopts because they think its the coolest console since its made by sony.

Take last gen for example, Xbox was the better machine pound for pound but somehow the ps2 sold more. Now its the other way around, PS3 is the (SLIGHTLY) better machine but I feel it going the way of the dreamcast sooner or later.

Unlike you though, I own all 3 consoles (I try to get all the consoles each gen) and Ive only played my ps3 for about 12 hours total since I got it on launch. Theres just not anything that great to play. Actually, the sad thing is Ive probably played the Wii more than my ps3 (zelda, of course).

The way I see it is this...PS3 is for hardcore gamers, 360 is for casual and hardcore gamers, and Wii is for new and casual gamers. I know which one goldie locks would pick! lol

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   Re: Folding Junkie! - 2007-05-14
 » Wow, you are dense!

The PS3 IS THE CHEAPEST BD PLAYER! Don't you get it? Currently the cheapest BD only players are the same price as the PS3. With upgradeable firmware BD features can be added down the road if more features need to be added. Why not buy a PS3 for the same money? It makes more sense, appears to the consumer to be a more valuable option for the money, and WILL flood the market with PS3 consoles.

Still don't believe me? Check out www.avsforum.com search for PS3 Blu Ray and see how many people are buying it as a BD Player. It is ignorant and fact-free comments like yours that really make me scratch my head and wonder why most of you trolls have so many opinions and so few facts to back them up.

Stop trying to explain yourself. You really just don't like what you don't understand. I bet you haven't read one bit of technical info on the cell have you? PPE's, SPE's, EIB, DMAC. Maybe you should find out how all of those work together it might help you.

You likely haven't kept an interest in the HD vs. BD war and the way the momentum is shifting at a rapidly increasing pace towards BD. If you had been you would know a little more about them. BTW, I saw a comment about maybe HD viewers are renting instead of buying unlike BD owners. Sorry to rain on that one but I rent BD through Netflix. It's a great service and then I don't waste my money on movies that suck. Chances are a few other people use Netflix for BD to play on their PS3's too! I honestly do not care which one wins. If it's HD I will gladly buy a player. I don't believe that is how the pieces will fall, though.

I used to be a primarily PC gamer also and still do play more than half of my games on my PC. But unlike you I see a whole lot of potential from this machine and they haven't broke the surface yet with what it can do.

So why don't you spend a few days researching all of the things related to these consoles and stop worrying about what you now think are awesome games because even future 360 games will improve from their current state. Take my word for it! This 7th generation of consoles is about far more than just games!

You will see. Trust me!
   by sniff sniff (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » come one guy lets talk about the real news here

Dynasty warriors gundam we can all drop our pocky sticks in glee and pretend to be in robots ^_^




im just messin with ya carry on with the my system is better than urs arguement

   by nutters (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » is that three times better than the CURRENT Pro evo?

Because then thats EASILY believable! The current pro evo is a just a PS2 port with better graphics

   by Thomas (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » If this is true then...

I don't think that the 360 will ever see a Metal Gear Solid game like the one that's coming out for the ps3. If Konami's putting all their development resouces into their soccer game, then I'm willing to bet they're doing the same w/ the MGS series for the ps3. Rockstar has a thing or two to learn from Konami (assuming that this story is true ... of course).

   by some guy (Unregistered) - 2007-05-14
 » pes player

i've played pes for the like half of my life, and what really matters is playing with friends. each version do have improvements, and that's what makes the new gen better than its predecessor, especially gameplay and value added to the newer version.

btw IMO (flame me if u want) the most important thing for a console are the games developed for it. without them, they're just accessories.

   by how is it you people never stay on topic? (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15
 » is it ADHD?

Every thread on this webiste goes something like this...

1. Item of news
2. Hmm, another reason X is better!
3. X!? get bent! Y kicks a**
4. No X does!
5. No Y does!
6. No X does! X is better because of figures that I quote
7. No Y is better because X is rubbish and your a Fanboy!

Can we perhaps just talk about the news aticle at hand without getting into a whos better contest.

I agree, when a game is basically ported across it does look rubbish, Pro Evo, Hitman, Godfather, all victims of being rushed and coming out like a pensioner at a kiss concert. And also, storage does make for a nasty issue, BUT, is it not about PROGRAMMING. textures take up alot of space yes, but sureley to make faces you dont need many TEXTURES. I cant tell you how many characters I've made look like me from the character creation screens on various games. All you need is basic backgrounds and the rest lies in programming.

Thus that should help on the storage front.

Anyone got something constructive to say?

   by Outsider - 2007-05-15
 » Exactly

It will be better, no doubt about it. The same reason why the Ps2 version of PES 6 was better than X360 version (go check it out). Had more content, clubs, modes etc. It seems that one dual layer dvd is not enough for a full next gen PES game, with next gen graphics, textures and all the things a true next gen football game should have... So some compromises are inevitable.

   by raven (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15
 » could get a better a rumor

Don't you fanboys find it strange that some guy khows
more abour what's going on square than he does
on konami...
Just a rumoro t bring the spirit up to ps3 owners...

   by Thomaticus (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15
 » jealousy...

Its the xbox 360 thats given everyone less game for their buck... on GTA... does that mean it has to happen on every game? damn its just a soccer game.. so what if it ends of better on the ps3...

   by na2ru1 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15
 » 360 in trouble(although i do blame SONY)

To think, all u idiots sayin its all gd with DVD9. lmao. Face it. Xbox360 is the 1 goin obsolete with its aging DVD player. Now thats as close to a dreamcast u can get. Nxt few years is trouble wen compressing games jus wont be enough.

GTA 4 and beyond is gna suck on 360. havin to restrict the freedom for developers to stick to 9GB. GTA4 is only newer version of GTA3 not San Andreas, that means if we expect another 2 more GTAs, then more space is required 4 stuff like all aircrafts, bigger island. IM RIGHT UR WRONG

Well Xbox needed the early release anyway otherwise they cud've had the time 2 chose a HD Disc to stick to 4 their games.

I blame sony for backin the expensiv blu-ray


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   by some guy (Unregistered) - 2007-05-15
 » next-gens

each one of the consoles had their own strengths and weakness, their manufacturers too. for e.g, the marketing strategy applied by nintendo is by far the most successful this time, by exploiting on new ventures and market shares. but this is not comparing apple and apple if we wanted to compare it with muscle systems, i.e. 360 and ps3. IMHO the games are the ones that can truly unlock the true power. one simple example is the FFXII and Shadow of Colossus for ps2, where the game devs created something unimaginable for the machine.

although i do get frustrated by ps3 team for making such an immature decision by using the blu-ray without further market research. if they wanted to change the luxury status to commodity for the ps3, then they better do something about the pricing. of course the cost benefit analysis, such as CVP need to be taken into consideration, but without asking what the market really wants, then all will be in vain.

as for 360, the online play is one of the well structured so far for this generation, probably because of the infrastructure and experience gained for its predecessor. but if 360 really want to gain more market share, they have to give more attractive offer to the gamedevs, and become more open to new entries in the game developer's industry.

And to close the argument, IMHO the PES for ps2 is still the best, not for the graphics and eye candy, but the gameplay itself.

   by smith (Unregistered) - 2007-06-06
 » cool

Wow.............
One game actually looks better on the BS3
than the Xbox 360. That game happen to be a soccer game. Now that is amazing........ And not just better, 3 times better.

   by fan of xbox (Unregistered) - 2007-06-14
 » ......

i have xbox and i really like xbox but graffics of ps3 is better than xbox and pro evolution soccer 7 is three times better than xbox



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