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I can't imagine what would happen if these things were true. Damn it Sony, why don't you give us some ground to stand on? Blah, for now I can only see this as true rumors.
I doubt its true, but I won't rule anything out. I won't be happy if I'm paying $600 for a downgraded PS3 when November rolls around.
What the f*k it's mean? Microsoft PR folks don't sleep.
Red says: got any interesting news?
Phantom Insider says: sure
Red says: then let's start it up
Phantom Insider says: Fully functional PS3 betas still do not exist
Red says: hmm
Phantom Insider says: Despite that we have seen a number of downgrades
Red says: clock speed?
Red says: remember it was going to be 3.5 ghz?
Phantom Insider says: And now we have been told that the powersource might be an external 400 watt unit after all
Phantom Insider says: instead of internal as promised
Red says: interesting
Phantom Insider says: The current designs despite having vents all over the place apparently still cant dissipate the heat to sufficient levels
Phantom Insider says: And yields on 3.2 Gigaherz CELL processors are too low
Red says: they can't produce them in mass supply still?
Phantom Insider says: so the final release might run only at 2.8 gigaherz
Red says: what have you heard about the rsx?
Red says: why would that be downgraded?
Red says: it as already somewhat weak
Phantom Insider says: RSX is finished and has been finished for quite a few months now
Red says: hmm
Phantom Insider says: we know what it can and cannot do
Red says: yea?
Phantom Insider says: I won't comment any further
Red says: hint?
Phantom Insider says: No
Red says: come on, this is anonymous
Phantom Insider says: I can't tell you more
Phantom Insider says: I do not want to lose my job
Red says: does it bode well for the ps3?
Phantom Insider says: Last time we had a lot of internal emails coming in from Sony
Red says: hmm not surprised
Red says: you were the first to blow the lid off things
Phantom Insider says: They were looking for the sources of the delay and dev problems leaks
Red says: lol
Phantom Insider says: i cannot risk it
Phantom Insider says: I am sorry
Red says: no probs
Red says: one thing
Red says: were the units at e3 2.8?
Phantom Insider says: yes
Phantom Insider says: and had 2 gigs of ram
Phantom Insider says: dev kits ya know
I guess the heating is the biggest problem. The external power source is not that much of an issue considering nearly every console has one. Of course the 360's for example is quite huge but there is a lot of room behind my TV (with enough space for ventilation).
The 2.8 ghz thing sounds bad on the paper but in the end I don't think it will make that much difference. Of course with the whole architecture of the PS3 it is quite difficult for me to appraise the impact of such a change - But if it is indeed true that the E3 demos ran on the weaker hardware then we don't really miss out on something. It is like we never saw what the PS3 is capable of with 3.2ghz. In the end it comes down to personal taste but the PS3 graphics do look nice enough.
About how Sony is going to argue the price even thought the specs are downgraded? Again with the blu-ray I guess. They never had any good arguments about the price.
take this with a f*** big grain of salt, last time the rumors were false anyway.
"They never had any good arguments about the price."
And stop talking 'bout the 600$ ps3, it's 500 if you want the exact same thing of the xbox360 premium+blue ray player, it's the same price, with more, so quit your non-sense about the price, if you just wanna play a console, just buy the f*** core, it's better than the premium x360 with more in it for the same price...
you are stupid Emil, Dexyn, and Maricar V.
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man all the idiots crying 'bout a great pricing... man, you're not catching anything 'bout what's coming? ha, stop crying out loud, and just try to understand something!
I understood everything you said till' you said...
Quoteth:
"You are all stupid Emil, Dexyn, and Maricar V:
Man all the idiots crying 'bout a great pricing... Man, you're not catching anything 'bout what's coming? Ha, stop crying out loud, and just try to understand something!"
What do you mean about what's coming , and stop crying out loud? I love the PS3, I have ever since I first heard it was coming about. I am a fanboy, but it's fair that I also see sides different sides on what they have to offer. Ok, in truth, I completely disagree with these rumors, but that's just it, these are Rumors no matter how bad it may seem.
Sony: Most powerful system ever, millions of teraflops, supercomputer + linux, dual 1080p hdmi etc etc
"Journalists" (and I use that term loosely): Drastically underpowered, low yeilds, no 1080p on base model etc etc
Personally, I'm sick of all this bull*****
Seriously, the PS3's price is reasonable for the power it has. But that doesn't change hwo the price is being argued. Personally I am a Nintendo fanboy if you want but that didn't stop me from buying a 360 too. And I am glad that I have. Granted I bought it second hand because I think the 360 is expensive too. I just stated that I am a Nintendo fanboy and I ownt a 360 but I am not biased when it comes to 360 vs PS3.
Remembering a few catch phrases when the 360 was brand new, I heard a lot of things like raw power, HDTV output, the whole Live! experience with friends lists, Arcade games, the ability to use it as a media center... True, the PS3 has all that too. But do you really ever hear about this features? They don't even advertise their new controller all that much. Realizing that except Blu-Ray Sony lags behind in every matter I understand why Blu-Ray seems their only argument about the high price - because with every other thing it would be "the 360 already got that".
Sony could really need some positive publicity or advertising campaign now because it really doesn't look too good for either Sony or the PS3.
the price is easy to justify just look at all you get for god sakes people i mean jesus christ for real! its ten times what the 360 is oh and the difference between 2.8 and 3.2 ghz is minimal
don't believe these rumors. Ask yourself, how many rumors has qj,net posted about the ps3 that have ever come true?
Answer: none. lol
This is another Microsoft Fans FUD trick.
Anyway if it was downgraded to 2.8Ghz, this sint a problem - afterall my 2.2ghz AMD 64 Blows my mates 3.0 Ghz Celeron out ot of the water. Nowadays the Number of Mhz means NOTHING!
Neway it may be like the PSP, 3.2Ghz underclocked to 2.8Ghz - with the ability to let the developer decide if they want to up to 3.2ghz - that makes sense to me
i dont believe a thing this article says. True, its just a bunch a bs to keep the sony haters rollin. Since bob Dole was such a dlck, you deserve to feel stupid. You say go with the 500 ps3 and it the same price as the 360 premium. (360 is getting hd, not blue ray) 500 is not = to 400. Your a dumbass. Oh and easy, your an idiot for saying 10 times more powerful. If it was that powerful there would be no contest.
This is as true as the 4€ coins
I saw this a few hours ago and I didn't want QJnet to also publish these weird rumours. I understand that the news on PS3 are pretty slow, but you should have waited for a more stable source. I mean what happened with the Inquirer news about the memory bandwith...?
The industry would be quite boring if there were no rumours. If you really want to wait for solid facts about PS3 I wish you good luck with hardly any news at all.
There is nothing wrong with posting rumours - if you are not claiming that this is a given fact. QJ never stated that this is a fact and clearly labeled every "Phantom Insider" newspost as a rumour. Noone can tell for sure that every aspect of this rumour is false. There are no bold claims, every brought up point is quite reasonable. A change from 3.2 to 2.8 is nothing extraordinary and by all means plausible. Same goes for the external power supply. It would be different if QJ posted a rumour that the cpus will not clock at 3.2 but only at 2ghz because that would obviously be completely false.
But with posts like this there is no need to get upset at all.
come on.....I´m a gamer, I want movielike graphics and realistic physics and not that argument 600bucks for blue-ray!!!
I like the playstation brand...but it seems that MS had the better concept (this time)!!!
Remove the blue-ray and put a quad-sli instead...PLEASE SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow not even a week before another rummor rised, THE INQUIRER, omg the inquirer said this, said that, then a REAL developer clreared all that ***** up about slow and broke, and now we get downgrade specs rumor?
I personally dont think this is true.
Of course this article aint true, if it was wouldnt you think that this would be posted on a more credible site, such as IGN or something, and also come from a more credible source, rather than some game develloping COWARD (Nerd in a basement).
I'd rather have no news than listen to this fake crap, Sony will keep their promise and stay with the true specs,
Peace
I didn't say you can't publish rumours, but I meant that wait for a more stable (read: more reliable) source.
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And stop talking 'bout the 600$ ps3, it's 500 if you want the exact same thing of the xbox360 premium+blue ray player, it's the same price, with more, so quit your non-sense about the price, if you just wanna play a console, just buy the f*** core, it's better than the premium x360 with more in it for the same price... "
I want to play a game console.
not watch *****ing movies.
500$ to play a few good ones?
So far i have been disspointed again and again.
qj.net hasnt posted any real rummors????
go back 6 months ago, and there were plenty of rumors that came true.
"If these downgrade "rumors" turn out to be true, how would Sony justify the $600 price tag?"
With the BD-Drive as they always do xD
A whole 400 MHz is going to be missing. OH NOES.
Someone call a Xbox fanboy to wipe my tears.
I dont comment on rumors. This is just stupid and i hate websites that post bull***** like this. Tell me something i can use. This just gets everyone worked up over a bunch of bull *****.
where their a few good games at launch for the 360? sports games with lack of options, a morbid kiddie style action for adults? no, but you still forked out the 400 for premium, why? because of the harddrive, hd cables, and the rest of the extras that youd pay out the ass for as addons.
the ps3? it seems to have a damn good launch going, warhawk, sonic, motorstorm, just to name a few. dont catch your fancy? by febuary youll have games like heavens sword and a plethera more of actual games, not just sport games. the price? who cares, if you like it, want it, youll buy it and if you cant youll find a way. 100 dollars difference between the same offerings of xbox360 prem and ps3 basic, 100dollars for bluray disc that 7-8 major movie companies and porn industry supports, that dell and hp support, how many support hd-dvd? 3-8 and microsoft. Remember xbox360's old specs before they felt the need to get a head start? they had a hd-dvd drive in the console. They took it out for that glitchy headstart, and everyone who buy's thier add one hd-dvd drive will be paying 100-200 dollars, which would, if MS had waited and released a real next gen system be on equal par with ps3.
Yes i know i sound like a raging fan boy right now, releiving stress is a great thing.
to the new at hand, the difference between 2.8 and 3.2 is mute. The intel p4 extreme runs at 3.2ghz, my amd anthlon 64 runs at 2.2ghz, both run 32bit os architecture. Whichone is faster? My amd with a ghz less. why? the design of the core, and what they focus on design wise. If sony can redefine the cell to more of an amd core style while keeping the cell specs, its going to blow everything away. but thats doubtful. in the end, this article is rubbish, the source is iffy at best, who would go to a small news site to leak specs... use someone respectable, not gulible. and if it really is true, then its just one more thing that the ps3 and xbox360 have in common, an external powersupply, the rest is mute.
---to the new at hand, the difference between 2.8 and 3.2 is mute. The intel p4 extreme runs at 3.2ghz, my amd anthlon 64 runs at 2.2ghz, both run 32bit os architecture. Whichone is faster? My amd with a ghz less. why? the design of the core, and what they focus on design wise. If sony can redefine the cell to more of an amd core style while keeping the cell specs, its going to blow everything away. but thats doubtful. in the end, this article is rubbish, the source is iffy at best, who would go to a small news site to leak specs... use someone respectable, not gulible. and if it really is true, then its just one more thing that the ps3 and xbox360 have in common, an external powersupply, the rest is mute.----
you are saying the difference between 2 completely different architecures of processors. it is true that amd has less GHZ, but runs the same as an Intel with much more "speed". but those are 2 different architectures. sony isnt goint to spend more millions redesgning the cells archetecture. what they are doing is like you going out and buying a 3.2GHZ intell, then lowing it to 2.8 GHZ. there is no differnce in that and what sony is doing. sony isnt redesigning anything in the cell. they are just lowing the clock speed.
It sounds like a 14 year wrote this thing up.
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Red says: what have you heard about the rsx?
Red says: why would that be downgraded?
Red says: it as already somewhat weak
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Was a 14 year old interviewing the Phantom insider? In the whole interview, it sounds like Red is completely biased and always seems to ask the right negative question to get all the negative facts. I am not specialist in interview dynamics but it seems Red and Phantom Insider are the same person.
Another thing to point out is that these are not new rumors. Who ever wrote this up is using previous flaky rumors and bunch them up to create an inside look of things. If you're an insider wouldn't you report on something new and different? If your a thinking person, you wouldn't believe a word of it.
2 Gig of Ram? Sounds more like upgrades then downgrades.
i was just placing some wishful thinking. yes i know both intel's p4 extreme 3.2 and amd anthlon64 2.2 run on different architecture. and yes i know sony isnt going to spend millions redesigning their chip. Realistically it would be idiotic. Thanks though, i appreciate a gentle knock to reality from the what ifs that my mind wonders off on from these rumors. And yes i do agreewith you on what their doing is most likely underclocking the processor.
This info probaly came from a spotty 15 yeard old oink sitting in a dingy room above his moms garage. The whole thing is very suspect. It just doesn't sound like anyone who would be working in the industry. Sony are more than likely laughing there balls off at this twaddle!
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even see more downgraded specs. It looks like Sony won't be getting much love with this new set of bad news that's spreading like wildfire in the gaming circle. But then again, bad publicity is still publicity.
