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by Shatterdome - 2007-09-05 |
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» haha....
A good way to deliver music but not video......millions of youtube visitors would have to disagree, as well as millions of pirated downloading many many movies.....as well as everyone on movie marketplace.....sorry...
A good way to deliver music but not video......millions of youtube visitors would have to disagree, as well as millions of pirated downloading many many movies.....as well as everyone on movie marketplace.....sorry...
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Re: the reason (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shatter
people download lots of pirated movies because they dont pay..........!!! and you tube vids aint really that big......the majority of peeps think its easyer to buy DVDs now and Blu Ray is the next attractive Tech.
people download lots of pirated movies because they dont pay..........!!! and you tube vids aint really that big......the majority of peeps think its easyer to buy DVDs now and Blu Ray is the next attractive Tech.
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
Well in a sense he's right, noone's gonna be downloading 30+ gb for just one movie iso. But then again, there's such thing as compression.
Well in a sense he's right, noone's gonna be downloading 30+ gb for just one movie iso. But then again, there's such thing as compression.
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Re: wow (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Cry of desperation
This sounds like desperation, now the Hard drives are getting so large no one really wants or cares about the size of the SLOW BLURAY/HDDVD players, in the end the Devs are going to go for the PC route and install almost all the data to hard drive so dvd size means ZERO (And the devs are only interested in OFFICIAL HARD DRIVE SIZES) so at the moment the 360 ELITE has the edge. The only way for the PS3 to compete is to DROP yet another PS3 system(the 20 and 60 gig and now the 80 gig version)...
Why is it that no matter what they do the HDDVD standalone players sell far more than the Blu Ray player?, consumers go to the shop and compare they dont believe anything they read they are sensible and go and actually see for themselves.
This sounds like desperation, now the Hard drives are getting so large no one really wants or cares about the size of the SLOW BLURAY/HDDVD players, in the end the Devs are going to go for the PC route and install almost all the data to hard drive so dvd size means ZERO (And the devs are only interested in OFFICIAL HARD DRIVE SIZES) so at the moment the 360 ELITE has the edge. The only way for the PS3 to compete is to DROP yet another PS3 system(the 20 and 60 gig and now the 80 gig version)...
Why is it that no matter what they do the HDDVD standalone players sell far more than the Blu Ray player?, consumers go to the shop and compare they dont believe anything they read they are sensible and go and actually see for themselves.
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Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» xbox live
Video marketplace ???
Video marketplace ???
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Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» movie enthusiast
my question to all of you is what size movie collections do you have? because i have over 600 movies and counting! my point is how many terabytes of hard drive space would i need to get anywhere near that type of hd movie collection on my pc with each movie ranging from 25 to 50 gb. also why would i take so many hours out of my life to download these huge files to my stationary (not portable) pc. and also i dont all of my trust in computers one virus and pc repair later all of your files are gone with no way to get them back without backup and who really has the storage capacity to back up that type of collection? give me tangible items not digital
my question to all of you is what size movie collections do you have? because i have over 600 movies and counting! my point is how many terabytes of hard drive space would i need to get anywhere near that type of hd movie collection on my pc with each movie ranging from 25 to 50 gb. also why would i take so many hours out of my life to download these huge files to my stationary (not portable) pc. and also i dont all of my trust in computers one virus and pc repair later all of your files are gone with no way to get them back without backup and who really has the storage capacity to back up that type of collection? give me tangible items not digital
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» To "me (Unregistered)"
movie enthusiast,
You've listed all of my concerns regarding hard-drive storage and downloading in one single paragraph!
Thanks. You've put most of my arguments against hard-drive storage in a single paragraph.
movie enthusiast,
You've listed all of my concerns regarding hard-drive storage and downloading in one single paragraph!
Thanks. You've put most of my arguments against hard-drive storage in a single paragraph.
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to wow
First off Sony doesn't need to make a new PS3 with a larger HDD drive to "compete" with the xbox Elite. Unlike the xbox any PS3 owner can go buy ANY 2.5" sata HDD and install it into their system. There are no warranty violations or HEAVILY over priced proprietary (xbox) drive that has to be bought. (xbox:120gig + $170, PS3: 120gig + $65 at newegg) Also the only reason that the HDDVD drives supposedly outsell the blu-ray drives is because the study didn't count the most affordable blu-ray drive out, the PS3. So how is it that the Blu-ray discs are outselling HDDVD discs?
First off Sony doesn't need to make a new PS3 with a larger HDD drive to "compete" with the xbox Elite. Unlike the xbox any PS3 owner can go buy ANY 2.5" sata HDD and install it into their system. There are no warranty violations or HEAVILY over priced proprietary (xbox) drive that has to be bought. (xbox:120gig + $170, PS3: 120gig + $65 at newegg) Also the only reason that the HDDVD drives supposedly outsell the blu-ray drives is because the study didn't count the most affordable blu-ray drive out, the PS3. So how is it that the Blu-ray discs are outselling HDDVD discs?
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Re: df (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» WOW is correct, PS3 harddrive is to small for the future
Person above me quotes YER BUT PS3 SATA DRIVE SIZES is stupid, DEVS only want to develope for OFFICIAL SIZE hard drives released by MS and Sony ,other 3rd party drives mean NOTHING to devs( why do you think Sony have already DROPPED TWO PS3 systems (the 20 gig and the 60 gig hard drive versions).. WORK IT OUT WHY>>>
Person above me quotes YER BUT PS3 SATA DRIVE SIZES is stupid, DEVS only want to develope for OFFICIAL SIZE hard drives released by MS and Sony ,other 3rd party drives mean NOTHING to devs( why do you think Sony have already DROPPED TWO PS3 systems (the 20 gig and the 60 gig hard drive versions).. WORK IT OUT WHY>>>
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ ^
By that logic the standard size for the xbox is a memory card, its the lowest common denominator. While the PS3 is 20gigs. how flawed is your logic?
By that logic the standard size for the xbox is a memory card, its the lowest common denominator. While the PS3 is 20gigs. how flawed is your logic?
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Re: 500mb, was took up to max by gears of war (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» 360 lost
the 360 loses in hard drive wise they already screwed up by offering a 360 without a hdd so they got to put those people in mind....its like if they add another anolouge stick to the psp people are gonna SUE!!!!........................games on the 360 have a 500mb limit to use for games , but since ps3 all come with at least 20 gigs ...developers know they have 20.5 gigs to use up on theire games..........
i devoted 4 gig to oblivian, and it runs amazingly ..without load times and looks better than 360's and every item ive ever dropped or thing ive killed stays in the same place.....fer eva n eva
the 360 loses in hard drive wise they already screwed up by offering a 360 without a hdd so they got to put those people in mind....its like if they add another anolouge stick to the psp people are gonna SUE!!!!........................games on the 360 have a 500mb limit to use for games , but since ps3 all come with at least 20 gigs ...developers know they have 20.5 gigs to use up on theire games..........
i devoted 4 gig to oblivian, and it runs amazingly ..without load times and looks better than 360's and every item ive ever dropped or thing ive killed stays in the same place.....fer eva n eva
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Re: tryt (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» MS knew what was going to happen years ago
No its not the lowest PS3 is now 80 gig the others are dropped, MS have almost allowed the new games to have a min of 20 gig so the next step wil be 120gb MS seem to have know all along the DVD disc size will play NO part in next gen consoles.
No its not the lowest PS3 is now 80 gig the others are dropped, MS have almost allowed the new games to have a min of 20 gig so the next step wil be 120gb MS seem to have know all along the DVD disc size will play NO part in next gen consoles.
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ df retarded logic
Still devs hav to consider ??? er 0mb wen making for the 360. Devs are able to consider as much as they like wen developing for the ps3 not lthat 1 game will require 20gigs for cache or wotever
Still devs hav to consider ??? er 0mb wen making for the 360. Devs are able to consider as much as they like wen developing for the ps3 not lthat 1 game will require 20gigs for cache or wotever
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
I think buying a blu-ray for 18$(amazon allright!) is easier than using up my bandwith for movies, looks like YOU, are downloading the wrong things.- kthxbai, that's my two yen for a people with a cent.
I think buying a blu-ray for 18$(amazon allright!) is easier than using up my bandwith for movies, looks like YOU, are downloading the wrong things.- kthxbai, that's my two yen for a people with a cent.
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Re: .... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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df dude they drop the other 20 gb so that there's only 1 system to choose from that was the 60 gb and now that they have the 80 gb they dropped the 60gb so that way the consumer doesn't have to think about which one to buy. It makes it easier than to choose between 2 same system. It's like if you choose the premium you would probably think that it's cheaper but then you might end up regreting it because it doesn't have the HDMI and whatever the elite has.
df dude they drop the other 20 gb so that there's only 1 system to choose from that was the 60 gb and now that they have the 80 gb they dropped the 60gb so that way the consumer doesn't have to think about which one to buy. It makes it easier than to choose between 2 same system. It's like if you choose the premium you would probably think that it's cheaper but then you might end up regreting it because it doesn't have the HDMI and whatever the elite has.
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Re: hahahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to tryt
MS did know what they were doing years ago. thats why they created the core 360. then the 360 elite. then the HDMI with the premium. they were ready
MS did know what they were doing years ago. thats why they created the core 360. then the 360 elite. then the HDMI with the premium. they were ready
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Re: Stealth! - 2007-09-06 |
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» LOL
Well i don't see MS accepting there invitation, Toshiba maybe. MS is now reaping the faults of there formats choice.
Well i don't see MS accepting there invitation, Toshiba maybe. MS is now reaping the faults of there formats choice.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-09-06 |
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» Not an invitation
It would be completely stupid of Toshiba to accept this "invitation" to accept all things blu ray.
Why?
Millions and millions of dollars lost in HD-DVD development.
Consumers who bought players would feel cheated by Toshiba. They would lose confidence in the company, and their reputation would be tarnished for years.
Members of the HD-DVD group would feel cheated as well. They have invested significant money into the format. Lawsuits would likely follow.
The exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks cost $150-$250 million. That would most likely be lost. A similar deal was likely made with Universal last year.
It's no secret the Blu ray's association's marketing tactics have been ethically questionable. The Blu ray association claimed victory multiple times, the first after selling twice as many discs for a 2 week period, after a large number of new releases on Blu ray. Sony's Peter Dille said HD-DVD would be dead within months, while defending the already dead UMD movie format. Disney has said there is no format war outside of the United States.
Giving up on HD-DVD without a fight and adopting Blu ray would mean this type of marketing has been a success, and Sony will continue to introduce their own media and attempt to gain exclusive profits off what was once a cooperative effort involving many different manufacturers.
While I want this format war to end, this would be a disaster for both electronics companies and consumers. The pricing of Blu ray products compared to HD-DVD proves what Sony is after. If there was no competition, would Blu ray cost even more?
This statment by Don Elkund was nothing more than a PR effort to make Sony and Blu ray appear to be the "good guys." He knows it would be idiotic for Toshiba, Microsoft, or any others to give in.
Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. They can't do that when Chinese import DVD players are $20. Sony was not happy with their cut of DVD development and immediately started independent development on Blu ray.
It would be completely stupid of Toshiba to accept this "invitation" to accept all things blu ray.
Why?
Millions and millions of dollars lost in HD-DVD development.
Consumers who bought players would feel cheated by Toshiba. They would lose confidence in the company, and their reputation would be tarnished for years.
Members of the HD-DVD group would feel cheated as well. They have invested significant money into the format. Lawsuits would likely follow.
The exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks cost $150-$250 million. That would most likely be lost. A similar deal was likely made with Universal last year.
It's no secret the Blu ray's association's marketing tactics have been ethically questionable. The Blu ray association claimed victory multiple times, the first after selling twice as many discs for a 2 week period, after a large number of new releases on Blu ray. Sony's Peter Dille said HD-DVD would be dead within months, while defending the already dead UMD movie format. Disney has said there is no format war outside of the United States.
Giving up on HD-DVD without a fight and adopting Blu ray would mean this type of marketing has been a success, and Sony will continue to introduce their own media and attempt to gain exclusive profits off what was once a cooperative effort involving many different manufacturers.
While I want this format war to end, this would be a disaster for both electronics companies and consumers. The pricing of Blu ray products compared to HD-DVD proves what Sony is after. If there was no competition, would Blu ray cost even more?
This statment by Don Elkund was nothing more than a PR effort to make Sony and Blu ray appear to be the "good guys." He knows it would be idiotic for Toshiba, Microsoft, or any others to give in.
Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. They can't do that when Chinese import DVD players are $20. Sony was not happy with their cut of DVD development and immediately started independent development on Blu ray.
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» To Common Sense
"Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. "
And HD-DVD exists because Microsoft and Toshiba are good at heart? :)
Come on, you know as well as I do that both formats exist because there is money to be made, and lots of it.
While the BRA's tactics may not be strictly by the book, can you say with any amount of certainty that Microsoft and Toshiba have been quite ethical? Corporations lie, cheat and steal, and none more so in the technology world than Microsoft. Surely you are aware of Microsoft's adventures with Internet Explorer and SCO?
Anyway, that's not to say MS is any worse than Sony. Just that MS is not the whiter-than-white that you think it to be.
As for Don Elkund's statement, yeah, I agree, that was just PR hogwash.
"Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. "
And HD-DVD exists because Microsoft and Toshiba are good at heart? :)
Come on, you know as well as I do that both formats exist because there is money to be made, and lots of it.
While the BRA's tactics may not be strictly by the book, can you say with any amount of certainty that Microsoft and Toshiba have been quite ethical? Corporations lie, cheat and steal, and none more so in the technology world than Microsoft. Surely you are aware of Microsoft's adventures with Internet Explorer and SCO?
Anyway, that's not to say MS is any worse than Sony. Just that MS is not the whiter-than-white that you think it to be.
As for Don Elkund's statement, yeah, I agree, that was just PR hogwash.
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by jolly roger (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» 30gb?
30gb you say my hearties?, arrgh jim lad most movies are 4gb and with compression look as good as blu poo movies, avast yee swamp rats
30gb you say my hearties?, arrgh jim lad most movies are 4gb and with compression look as good as blu poo movies, avast yee swamp rats
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Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ..
Not true, HD movies look way better than DVD quality ~ with a 20 meg connection and a 500gig HD+, downloading HD movies won't be a problem. The Internet is evolving too fast for you Sony.. Give it a year and most service providers will be offering 10mg connections as a minimum..
Not true, HD movies look way better than DVD quality ~ with a 20 meg connection and a 500gig HD+, downloading HD movies won't be a problem. The Internet is evolving too fast for you Sony.. Give it a year and most service providers will be offering 10mg connections as a minimum..
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Re: justin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ^^^^^^^^^
what world do either of you live in where 4gb compressed movies look as good as full 1080p movies or everyone will have a 20 meg connection with half terabyte drives by next year? Be realistic and look at the common consumer.
what world do either of you live in where 4gb compressed movies look as good as full 1080p movies or everyone will have a 20 meg connection with half terabyte drives by next year? Be realistic and look at the common consumer.
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Re: molly roger (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» mate
Shut up, just, shut up.
Shut up, just, shut up.
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Re: Jesus Christ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to justin
Ummm what are you talking about?
First off you can download HD quality shows full seasons for like 8-10Gigs. Secondly, erm... fiber optics are getting ridiculously c heap, and only in America is this 5MB connection bull***** still ok. In europe and asia there are more than 100mbit connections, so get your facts straight. Secondly, in case you haven't realized, almost every internet provider is getting into fiber optics. Verizon fios currently has 15 megs and I believe a 30 meg connection is coming soon.
And it's not uncommon for people to have 200-400GB hard drives, they are incredibly inexpensive, and again with compression most movies are very low in size if you choose to watch them on your comp, and almost all fit on a regular sized DVD (unless they are uncompressed really really high quality).
Ummm what are you talking about?
First off you can download HD quality shows full seasons for like 8-10Gigs. Secondly, erm... fiber optics are getting ridiculously c heap, and only in America is this 5MB connection bull***** still ok. In europe and asia there are more than 100mbit connections, so get your facts straight. Secondly, in case you haven't realized, almost every internet provider is getting into fiber optics. Verizon fios currently has 15 megs and I believe a 30 meg connection is coming soon.
And it's not uncommon for people to have 200-400GB hard drives, they are incredibly inexpensive, and again with compression most movies are very low in size if you choose to watch them on your comp, and almost all fit on a regular sized DVD (unless they are uncompressed really really high quality).
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
You people and your crazy internet. Australia's still leagues behind. The average person here only has a 512kbit connection and you get slowed down when you reach around 10gb. I on the other hand have a measly 8mbit connection that gets capped after 30 *****ing gbs. And that's for 80 dollars a month (65 for you americans). Ridiculously cheap my ass.
You people and your crazy internet. Australia's still leagues behind. The average person here only has a 512kbit connection and you get slowed down when you reach around 10gb. I on the other hand have a measly 8mbit connection that gets capped after 30 *****ing gbs. And that's for 80 dollars a month (65 for you americans). Ridiculously cheap my ass.
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Re: BJ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» orage bradband
next year orange broadband are hopin to get 100meg broadband. typein on google for an article bout it
next year orange broadband are hopin to get 100meg broadband. typein on google for an article bout it
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ BJ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And wot, 100mb internet is gna be mainstream instantly? lmao its gna instantly be a ripoff. No1 usually is bovered to switch isp.
And wot, 100mb internet is gna be mainstream instantly? lmao its gna instantly be a ripoff. No1 usually is bovered to switch isp.
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Re: justin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to Jesus Christ
I'm talking about common sense. Full seasons of shows at 8 - 10 gb do not look high def (trust me, i do it constantly). Buy a half decent large screen TV (in my case a 1080p plasma) and you'll see the difference very fast. BD and Divx/Xvid is hardly the same thing.
Second, broadband in the US is slow to upgrade speeds, no matter what Verizon might be saying about Fios. I live in a city for God's sakes and it still hasnt reachesd us, how long do you think it's going to take in the central US? Most people still arent on that wagon anyway...so your point is moot. The rest of the world might be, but the US is massively important in any marketing strategy due to it's size, disposable income, and buying power, don't kid yourself.
As for hard drives...yes, those sizes arent uncommon, but they arent exactly the norm for the casual pc user which is what makes up the bulk of computer users. People replace their PCs probably every 3 - 5 years realistically, so it's not like most people will go out and just buy new hard drives so they can download movies. Most people will still buy discs and pop them in a player. It's simpler and the market likes it that way.
I'm talking about common sense. Full seasons of shows at 8 - 10 gb do not look high def (trust me, i do it constantly). Buy a half decent large screen TV (in my case a 1080p plasma) and you'll see the difference very fast. BD and Divx/Xvid is hardly the same thing.
Second, broadband in the US is slow to upgrade speeds, no matter what Verizon might be saying about Fios. I live in a city for God's sakes and it still hasnt reachesd us, how long do you think it's going to take in the central US? Most people still arent on that wagon anyway...so your point is moot. The rest of the world might be, but the US is massively important in any marketing strategy due to it's size, disposable income, and buying power, don't kid yourself.
As for hard drives...yes, those sizes arent uncommon, but they arent exactly the norm for the casual pc user which is what makes up the bulk of computer users. People replace their PCs probably every 3 - 5 years realistically, so it's not like most people will go out and just buy new hard drives so they can download movies. Most people will still buy discs and pop them in a player. It's simpler and the market likes it that way.
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
4GB + 480
16GB + 480x4 + 1960 !
Ok so that was pointless, but
4GB is a DVD rip, lamely, and Blu-rays hold 50, theoretically 200GB. hmmm Big old expensive harddrive, or CDs? opion related, but everything is an arguement.
4GB + 480
16GB + 480x4 + 1960 !
Ok so that was pointless, but
4GB is a DVD rip, lamely, and Blu-rays hold 50, theoretically 200GB. hmmm Big old expensive harddrive, or CDs? opion related, but everything is an arguement.
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Re: FilthyFrenchman (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Are you kidding me?
I OWN EVERY SYSTEM......... stay in your 4GB with compression Wii type graphics. You have no clue. And WHEN you own a PS3 then you can talk.... because most people will.... i bet you still even have a ps2!!
I OWN EVERY SYSTEM......... stay in your 4GB with compression Wii type graphics. You have no clue. And WHEN you own a PS3 then you can talk.... because most people will.... i bet you still even have a ps2!!
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by more evidence that q.j. is biased (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» blu-ray camp desperate
Sony is really hurtin' right now. HD-DVD FTW! HD-DVD drives will be in PCs too and they are wrong -- people buy DVDs because they're cheap, not because they're expensive! Holy crapola.
Sony is really hurtin' right now. HD-DVD FTW! HD-DVD drives will be in PCs too and they are wrong -- people buy DVDs because they're cheap, not because they're expensive! Holy crapola.
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Re: ~ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ~
guess that you didn't quite get the article now did you ?
guess that you didn't quite get the article now did you ?
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» yeh lmao
hes dumb
hes dumb
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
LOL LOL LOL LOL FLAMING RETARD.
Kharma -1
Damnit!
Kharma -2
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LOL LOL LOL LOL FLAMING RETARD.
Kharma -1
Damnit!
Kharma -2
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Re: PS3 Fantard (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» sure...
The article said blu ray is better because it's more expensive. What an advantage!
The article said blu ray is better because it's more expensive. What an advantage!
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by V (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Same thing they always say
Qoute "We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Isnt that what they said about the PS3?? Yea that's why the Wii is kicking its ass...
Qoute "We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Isnt that what they said about the PS3?? Yea that's why the Wii is kicking its ass...
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
Shows how many retarded people there are.
*cracks up laughing*- look at the post above... still getting me.
Anyways, The Wii is how do you say... everyone's toy, the PS3 is ... gamer proficient.
Shows how many retarded people there are.
*cracks up laughing*- look at the post above... still getting me.
Anyways, The Wii is how do you say... everyone's toy, the PS3 is ... gamer proficient.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» who cares
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
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Re: meh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ..
No, it means you're an idiot. Go help cure cancer. Do some folding.
Admitedly there aren't many good games for PS3 at this time, but it's begun. Haven't been off Warhawk much lately. Not to mention *again* that despite the lack of games, PS3 sales are still very comparable to 360 sales over the same period of time.
No, it means you're an idiot. Go help cure cancer. Do some folding.
Admitedly there aren't many good games for PS3 at this time, but it's begun. Haven't been off Warhawk much lately. Not to mention *again* that despite the lack of games, PS3 sales are still very comparable to 360 sales over the same period of time.
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Re: Azure (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» wow
Do u even own a PS3 AoxomamoxoA... Or are u just wishing u did...
Do u even own a PS3 AoxomamoxoA... Or are u just wishing u did...
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Re: ..... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» ....
no your all wrong those 10/10 for heavenly sword are for the movie part, oh i forgot thats basically the whole thing, ahh 6 hours of gameplay thats horrible. u must have been cnfused
no your all wrong those 10/10 for heavenly sword are for the movie part, oh i forgot thats basically the whole thing, ahh 6 hours of gameplay thats horrible. u must have been cnfused
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by kaka (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» desperation on the blue ray camp..
Looks to me as though blue ray camp are sooo very desperate.
Looks to me as though blue ray camp are sooo very desperate.
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Re: tom (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» What?
Did you even read the article, they're not asking for help.
Did you even read the article, they're not asking for help.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» yep
sony in general are desperate. poor ps3 sales, horrible reviews for most of the games, and now this. anyone who thinks sony is on the up and not the down are in some serious denial.
sony in general are desperate. poor ps3 sales, horrible reviews for most of the games, and now this. anyone who thinks sony is on the up and not the down are in some serious denial.
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Re: googlie doodily (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» people lest donate money to sony!
We should donate money to blue ray and ps3 so that they can continue fighting the inevitable winners that are microsoft, toshiba and there partners in crime. Come on people be a wonderfull human being and donate to the suffering of the sony cause.
We should donate money to blue ray and ps3 so that they can continue fighting the inevitable winners that are microsoft, toshiba and there partners in crime. Come on people be a wonderfull human being and donate to the suffering of the sony cause.
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Re: . (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» .
they're not asking they're begging
they're not asking they're begging
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Re: Vsions (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Im confused
Last I checked Blu-ray is significantly out pacing HDdvd so how exactly is Sony desperate?
Also AoxomamoxoA how can you explain the fact tat PS3 is selling way better than the 360 during this stage of its life, while being both more expensive and having to other systems to compete against. The first year release games for the ps3 destroy the first year release games for the 360. and Sony has some of the highest rated games in its launch year than any of the other two systems. Wait maybe Im not confused, maybe your confused.
Last I checked Blu-ray is significantly out pacing HDdvd so how exactly is Sony desperate?
Also AoxomamoxoA how can you explain the fact tat PS3 is selling way better than the 360 during this stage of its life, while being both more expensive and having to other systems to compete against. The first year release games for the ps3 destroy the first year release games for the 360. and Sony has some of the highest rated games in its launch year than any of the other two systems. Wait maybe Im not confused, maybe your confused.
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Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ...
you guys have been keeping your noses in your asses. sony is basically taunting toshiba and microsoft since blu-ray is winning. and anorexomanoxo name two ps3 exclusives that got low ratings and give me links to two different sites that rated it. YOU are in denial because your mommy won't buy you a ps3 no matter how much you scream and whine.
you guys have been keeping your noses in your asses. sony is basically taunting toshiba and microsoft since blu-ray is winning. and anorexomanoxo name two ps3 exclusives that got low ratings and give me links to two different sites that rated it. YOU are in denial because your mommy won't buy you a ps3 no matter how much you scream and whine.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» @Mohaas
I already own a ps3 (send a message to AoXomAmoXoA on PSN if you would like proof), and two games that score below average are Lair and Heavenly Sword both of which are exclusives. You can google their respective scores if you like.
I already own a ps3 (send a message to AoXomAmoXoA on PSN if you would like proof), and two games that score below average are Lair and Heavenly Sword both of which are exclusives. You can google their respective scores if you like.
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Re: ..... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» aoxoxmmaamam
do you believe what other stranger writes about a game? or do you even try it yourself. last time I checked lair just came out and heavenly sword isn't out as yet. So why don't you go check out the game for yourself instead of using other stranger opinion on a game.
do you believe what other stranger writes about a game? or do you even try it yourself. last time I checked lair just came out and heavenly sword isn't out as yet. So why don't you go check out the game for yourself instead of using other stranger opinion on a game.
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Re: hermit (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to Aoxooaoaoaoa
i bet you didn't get warhawk either because PSM gave it a 6.5. Gamerankings is a good indicator on where a game sits. But the only real way to tell is to play the game yourself, something you obviously haven't done with Lair and HS.
i bet you didn't get warhawk either because PSM gave it a 6.5. Gamerankings is a good indicator on where a game sits. But the only real way to tell is to play the game yourself, something you obviously haven't done with Lair and HS.
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Re: Hey Aoxo (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Yeah I did that
All Heavenly Sword reviews as of August 29
Play Magazine 10/10
Tilt 10/10
NextGenIreland 9.7/10
doupe.cz 9/10
PSX Extreme 9/10
Gamepro 4.5/5
Official Playstation Magazine 89/100
Game Informer 8.75/10, 9/10
EGM 8/10, 8/10, 9/10
PSW Oct 8/10
pocket-lint.co.uk 8/10
GameDaily 8/10
Zapak TV (No score, but says it's a "really good game")
Games Radar gave it an 8
1up 8.0
Getting some pretty good scores overall. Aoxo just face HS is going to be awesome simple as that. And if you say otherwise after looking at all those good scores then you are the one in some serious denial.
All Heavenly Sword reviews as of August 29
Play Magazine 10/10
Tilt 10/10
NextGenIreland 9.7/10
doupe.cz 9/10
PSX Extreme 9/10
Gamepro 4.5/5
Official Playstation Magazine 89/100
Game Informer 8.75/10, 9/10
EGM 8/10, 8/10, 9/10
PSW Oct 8/10
pocket-lint.co.uk 8/10
GameDaily 8/10
Zapak TV (No score, but says it's a "really good game")
Games Radar gave it an 8
1up 8.0
Getting some pretty good scores overall. Aoxo just face HS is going to be awesome simple as that. And if you say otherwise after looking at all those good scores then you are the one in some serious denial.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» who cares
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
When faced with evidence contrary to the faeces dribbling out of his mouth, all Aoxo can say is 'who cares'. Cute.
When faced with evidence contrary to the faeces dribbling out of his mouth, all Aoxo can say is 'who cares'. Cute.
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Re: hahahhaha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» This is Aoxo
After reading the post made by Hey Aoxo
http://www.birkoph.com/owned/owned_help.jpg
After reading the post made by Hey Aoxo
http://www.birkoph.com/owned/owned_help.jpg
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» @rawr
HER mouth, and thanks. shows youre a noob around here because vets know im female.
anyways, ill be honest for a minute. i dont care. i dont care what heavenly sword scored, and i dont care what lair scored. im still not interested in them. there are too many great games coming out on 360 for me to waste money on average-ok games for ps3 right now. its just that simple. tell me that i was wrong about the scores, it isnt going to change the world. you can put that little gem under the same category of i dont care.
as for warhawk, a mate told me it was rubbish. have i played it? no. do i care to? not really, no. i hear there are only five maps, and thats a pretty sad thing if true. you would think with all the data a bluray can hold they would have put forth the effort to actually fill it with a game that ps3 fans cant seem to shut up about.
lastly, yes i do own a ps3 (but i almost never play it for obvious reasons). again, most of the vets to this site know this (quixand, na2rul, chuckingrocksatspaceships, mr common sense, and the others) because theyre on my psn friends list. all the proof you need can be found by simply sending a message or request to AoXomAmoXoA on PSN. why every month there is a new noob who doesnt realize that gee, maybe this person does have a ps3, is beyond me. next time, try sitting back and observing for a week or two instead of just jumping in and making yourself look stupid in front of all the registered users mkay? thanks.
HER mouth, and thanks. shows youre a noob around here because vets know im female.
anyways, ill be honest for a minute. i dont care. i dont care what heavenly sword scored, and i dont care what lair scored. im still not interested in them. there are too many great games coming out on 360 for me to waste money on average-ok games for ps3 right now. its just that simple. tell me that i was wrong about the scores, it isnt going to change the world. you can put that little gem under the same category of i dont care.
as for warhawk, a mate told me it was rubbish. have i played it? no. do i care to? not really, no. i hear there are only five maps, and thats a pretty sad thing if true. you would think with all the data a bluray can hold they would have put forth the effort to actually fill it with a game that ps3 fans cant seem to shut up about.
lastly, yes i do own a ps3 (but i almost never play it for obvious reasons). again, most of the vets to this site know this (quixand, na2rul, chuckingrocksatspaceships, mr common sense, and the others) because theyre on my psn friends list. all the proof you need can be found by simply sending a message or request to AoXomAmoXoA on PSN. why every month there is a new noob who doesnt realize that gee, maybe this person does have a ps3, is beyond me. next time, try sitting back and observing for a week or two instead of just jumping in and making yourself look stupid in front of all the registered users mkay? thanks.
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» To Aoxo
Hey Aoxo,
I sent you a message weeks back. You haven't replied. So I still don't know whether you are legit.
Anyway, your buddies seem to be limited to 360 users, which is why you seem to be getting biased opinions and are spouting biased ideas yourself. Anyway, I've given up using facts with you, because in the face of facts, all you can say is 'who cares'? Of course, when the facts go your way, you seem to shout them from the rooftops!
Hey Aoxo,
I sent you a message weeks back. You haven't replied. So I still don't know whether you are legit.
Anyway, your buddies seem to be limited to 360 users, which is why you seem to be getting biased opinions and are spouting biased ideas yourself. Anyway, I've given up using facts with you, because in the face of facts, all you can say is 'who cares'? Of course, when the facts go your way, you seem to shout them from the rooftops!
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Re: Dude (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» @Amox
Anyone can create a PSN account on any PS3, how does this prove you own one? It's more likely you went to your friend's house and made an account.
Anyone can create a PSN account on any PS3, how does this prove you own one? It's more likely you went to your friend's house and made an account.
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-06 |
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» @Aoxmofo
U Dont have a PS3. I KNOW. U go round some1 elses place to send messages. Cheap slag
U Dont have a PS3. I KNOW. U go round some1 elses place to send messages. Cheap slag
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-06 |
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» wlaehfw
you caught me nat, i go over to a mates house and go "hey, do you mind letting me sign onto psn so i can send a message to people?" every once in a while. or could it be that i actually have a ps3 that i hardly ever use?
i dont know why i even bother with sony fantards anymore. the truth can be staring them straight in the face and you blokes will still come up with some far stretched conspiracy theory about how its somehow some other way. like how ms always pays devs off to get the game delayed for the ps3, when really the ps3 is just harder to code for. or how you always cry when a ps3 exclusive goes multiplat and use the same line about ms dumping money on them, when really the 360 just has a much larger fanbase and they realize they can make more profits. i wish you ps3 fans could just take a step back and see how utterly retarded you sound. "nurr i bet she goes to a friends house and messages us from there because getting a ps3 is illegal unless youre a diehard fan of sony! nurr"
you dont think i have a ps3? good for you. i dont care what you THINK, because obviously youre too stupid as it is. im done debating this from now on, because soon you will be right that i dont have a ps3. biggest waste of $600 ive ever spent, and im getting rid of it before the value deflates any further. have fun defending the ps3, soon you will be just like the people who still defend the dreamcast.
you caught me nat, i go over to a mates house and go "hey, do you mind letting me sign onto psn so i can send a message to people?" every once in a while. or could it be that i actually have a ps3 that i hardly ever use?
i dont know why i even bother with sony fantards anymore. the truth can be staring them straight in the face and you blokes will still come up with some far stretched conspiracy theory about how its somehow some other way. like how ms always pays devs off to get the game delayed for the ps3, when really the ps3 is just harder to code for. or how you always cry when a ps3 exclusive goes multiplat and use the same line about ms dumping money on them, when really the 360 just has a much larger fanbase and they realize they can make more profits. i wish you ps3 fans could just take a step back and see how utterly retarded you sound. "nurr i bet she goes to a friends house and messages us from there because getting a ps3 is illegal unless youre a diehard fan of sony! nurr"
you dont think i have a ps3? good for you. i dont care what you THINK, because obviously youre too stupid as it is. im done debating this from now on, because soon you will be right that i dont have a ps3. biggest waste of $600 ive ever spent, and im getting rid of it before the value deflates any further. have fun defending the ps3, soon you will be just like the people who still defend the dreamcast.
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-07 |
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» To Aoxo
"have fun defending the ps3,"
Defense only comes when there is an attack, and there is a desire to defend only when 360 fanboy idiots like you come here and attack the PS3 without logic or reason. As for whether or not PS3 will die or not, time will tell, so stop playing the astrologer, will you?
I notice that when one fact happens to go your way, you happen to shout it from the rooftops (so to speak, and pardon the repetition), but when the facts go against your biased hyperbole, you usually attack the person stating the facts or just reply, "who cares". So I guess that would make you a 360 fantard, then?
"have fun defending the ps3,"
Defense only comes when there is an attack, and there is a desire to defend only when 360 fanboy idiots like you come here and attack the PS3 without logic or reason. As for whether or not PS3 will die or not, time will tell, so stop playing the astrologer, will you?
I notice that when one fact happens to go your way, you happen to shout it from the rooftops (so to speak, and pardon the repetition), but when the facts go against your biased hyperbole, you usually attack the person stating the facts or just reply, "who cares". So I guess that would make you a 360 fantard, then?
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by Ash (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Blu-ray
Blu-ray has won in Japan, Blu-ray has won in Europe, Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD pretty much everywhere. Yeah, Sony REALLY need that help, with all those long term exclusive films from 20th Century Fox and Disney, that great line up of films, people snapping up films when they get a PS3, you can really see Blu-ray is a failing format! ¬.¬
Blu-ray has won in Japan, Blu-ray has won in Europe, Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD pretty much everywhere. Yeah, Sony REALLY need that help, with all those long term exclusive films from 20th Century Fox and Disney, that great line up of films, people snapping up films when they get a PS3, you can really see Blu-ray is a failing format! ¬.¬
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Re: wer (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Blu Ray is dying
Blu ray is not outselling anyone, not that I care as I bought a 360 Elite games machine not a movie player, in Japan the Wii is killing the PS3 and there is no Blu ray palyer in the Wii, in the USA the 360 kills the PS3 and it has the users CHOICE of buying an HDDVD so its not lookingh good for Blu Ray anywhere..
Blu ray is not outselling anyone, not that I care as I bought a 360 Elite games machine not a movie player, in Japan the Wii is killing the PS3 and there is no Blu ray palyer in the Wii, in the USA the 360 kills the PS3 and it has the users CHOICE of buying an HDDVD so its not lookingh good for Blu Ray anywhere..
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Re: gooogle poodle (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» japaaaaaan u u say, is that true sir!
blue ray might win in the land of the rising sun but for japanese the sun doesnt shine down under(if you know what i mean) hehehehehe!
blue ray might win in the land of the rising sun but for japanese the sun doesnt shine down under(if you know what i mean) hehehehehe!
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Re: Marino (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Just goes to show you
Wer you truly are one dumb piece of S.H.I.T. Most of what you said is wrong. Ever heard of a little thing called reading and researching. Everybody knows Blu-Ray is whooping HD-DVDs ass 3 to 1. The only thing that's dying is the 360 in Japan buddy. Well they got Blue Dragon over there maybe that will boost some sales oh wait that game sucks ass.
Wer you truly are one dumb piece of S.H.I.T. Most of what you said is wrong. Ever heard of a little thing called reading and researching. Everybody knows Blu-Ray is whooping HD-DVDs ass 3 to 1. The only thing that's dying is the 360 in Japan buddy. Well they got Blue Dragon over there maybe that will boost some sales oh wait that game sucks ass.
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Re: cor-di (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» About Japs since were talking off topic!
Japanese have smaller *****. About 1/5 of an ordinary men.
Japanese have smaller *****. About 1/5 of an ordinary men.
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Re: meh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ cor-di
Yea, a shame you're even smaller than 'em huh.
Yea, a shame you're even smaller than 'em huh.
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Re: cor-di (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» To meh's comment
Well meh if you consider a consider a 9inch a small ***** then yeh i'm proud to have a small *****.
Well meh if you consider a consider a 9inch a small ***** then yeh i'm proud to have a small *****.
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Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» ...
yeah cor-di its a shame you're wasting it on your hand.
yeah cor-di its a shame you're wasting it on your hand.
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by Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ?
"Rich Marty, VP for new business development, chimes in: "The DVD format was good, but profitability only lasted for a couple of years before there was no money to be had in the hardware market. We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Consumers are smart enough to save money, not spend more for basically the same thing (comparing Blu ray to HD-DVD.) Who gives a flying f*ck if the hardware is profitable for electronics manufacturers? THAT'S WHY THERE IS THIS POINTLESS FORMAT WAR!!! HD-DVD players are $300, Blu ray players start at $500 (PS3), and stand alone players are even more. Blu ray movies don't look any better, so what's the advantage there? When DVD players are at times $20 or less and most people still don't have HDTVs, what do they expect? Then there's a format war on top of that and few movies are available in HD and they're expensive.
"Rich Marty, VP for new business development, chimes in: "The DVD format was good, but profitability only lasted for a couple of years before there was no money to be had in the hardware market. We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Consumers are smart enough to save money, not spend more for basically the same thing (comparing Blu ray to HD-DVD.) Who gives a flying f*ck if the hardware is profitable for electronics manufacturers? THAT'S WHY THERE IS THIS POINTLESS FORMAT WAR!!! HD-DVD players are $300, Blu ray players start at $500 (PS3), and stand alone players are even more. Blu ray movies don't look any better, so what's the advantage there? When DVD players are at times $20 or less and most people still don't have HDTVs, what do they expect? Then there's a format war on top of that and few movies are available in HD and they're expensive.
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by Spectre (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Sony in denial?
LMAO.
They've outsold HD-DVDs on a global basis. They're offering a truce, and M$ and Toshiba can't even begin to let their guard down on their craptastic product.
And if I remember correctly, the PS2 still outsells the XBlowx711 so there is no rush for the PS3 to do well. Once Sony's done with the PS2, EVERYONE will jump on the PS3 and give farewells to M$ and Ninty.
LMAO.
They've outsold HD-DVDs on a global basis. They're offering a truce, and M$ and Toshiba can't even begin to let their guard down on their craptastic product.
And if I remember correctly, the PS2 still outsells the XBlowx711 so there is no rush for the PS3 to do well. Once Sony's done with the PS2, EVERYONE will jump on the PS3 and give farewells to M$ and Ninty.
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Re: PS3 Fantard (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» a truce?
Adolf Hitler also offered the world a truce during World War 2. Lay down your arms and accept Nazi rule worldwide. I wonder how that would have turned out. Probably not too well.
Only a complete brainwashed idiot could call this act of desperation a truce. Sony knows this format war is going nowhere for either side and they want to win. Toshiba submitted HD-DVD to the DVD forum using the proper channels to make a unified format (or so they hoped) and it was sony that got greedy and went out on their own to make almost exclusive profits off blu ray.
Too bad my PS3 got caught into this mess and it's nearly useless as a game console as it sits unused in my closet.
Adolf Hitler also offered the world a truce during World War 2. Lay down your arms and accept Nazi rule worldwide. I wonder how that would have turned out. Probably not too well.
Only a complete brainwashed idiot could call this act of desperation a truce. Sony knows this format war is going nowhere for either side and they want to win. Toshiba submitted HD-DVD to the DVD forum using the proper channels to make a unified format (or so they hoped) and it was sony that got greedy and went out on their own to make almost exclusive profits off blu ray.
Too bad my PS3 got caught into this mess and it's nearly useless as a game console as it sits unused in my closet.
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Re: fanboy (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» fanboy in denial
by the time ps2 is out of circulation, new console form microsoft and nintendo will be out with new development tools. by that time most developer will be on new consoles and will leave ps3 alone. just like ps2 right now, hardly any good game being develop on it
by the time ps2 is out of circulation, new console form microsoft and nintendo will be out with new development tools. by that time most developer will be on new consoles and will leave ps3 alone. just like ps2 right now, hardly any good game being develop on it
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Re: Fantard Hater (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» A new low!
"We would love to have Toshiba and Microsoft on board," said Don Eklund
Awww isn't that ever so nice of him? All that money Toshiba and the HD-DVD group sunk into HD-DVD development costs gone, exclusivity contract money gone, and then Sony gets near exclusive profits off their Blu ray format exclusively from now on.
"The IFA event saw an official announcement from Toshiba and the HD DVD Promotion Group about the lowering of prices for both HD DVD stand-alone players as well as for laptops with HD DVD drives, trying to fight the format war on price points."
Uh oh, Don Elkund's offer wouldn't have anything to do with announcements from the HD-DVD camp such as that or the recent exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks now would it?
Is the Blu ray association starting to realize they can't win this format war they essentially created?
Eklund and Marty questioned Toshiba's pricing strategy; "Tosh can't keep dropping prices much more," said Eklund. "It maybe a strategy for fighting a format war, but for us it has to be profitable."
According to the vice president of technologies he'd: "Never thought the price was an issue... when it comes to investing in a state of the art entertainment system with HD-Ready television and surround sound system, having to spend a bit extra to get Blu-ray, we feel, isn't going to drive customers away. It's the bigger picture we are looking at."
That apparent naivety is why, according to the Blu-ray camp, players are considerably more expensive than their HD DVD counterparts, because they have to be profitable, and it seems that DVD no longer offered that kind of attractive bottom line.
"The DVD format was good, but profitability only lasted for a couple of years before there was no money to be had in the hardware market," said Marty. "We believe consumers are smart enough to realise the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Now all he does is stress profitability. Profitability for blu ray electronics manufacturers. Not a low cost for the consumer. He doesn't even mention a single advantage of Blu Ray over HD-DVD.
And as for how consumers are supposed to get around the Dreamworks and Paramount shift to HD DVD? "Buy it on DVD," Marty suggested - before quickly adding that Blu-ray players have upscaling features so you can still get the most out of the picture quality.
What ever you do, don't get a HD-DVD player! HD-DVD players upscale as well. Plus the discs often have regular DVD versions on the other side. Duhhh what do you think this tool would say?
"We would love to have Toshiba and Microsoft on board," said Don Eklund
Awww isn't that ever so nice of him? All that money Toshiba and the HD-DVD group sunk into HD-DVD development costs gone, exclusivity contract money gone, and then Sony gets near exclusive profits off their Blu ray format exclusively from now on.
"The IFA event saw an official announcement from Toshiba and the HD DVD Promotion Group about the lowering of prices for both HD DVD stand-alone players as well as for laptops with HD DVD drives, trying to fight the format war on price points."
Uh oh, Don Elkund's offer wouldn't have anything to do with announcements from the HD-DVD camp such as that or the recent exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks now would it?
Is the Blu ray association starting to realize they can't win this format war they essentially created?
Eklund and Marty questioned Toshiba's pricing strategy; "Tosh can't keep dropping prices much more," said Eklund. "It maybe a strategy for fighting a format war, but for us it has to be profitable."
According to the vice president of technologies he'd: "Never thought the price was an issue... when it comes to investing in a state of the art entertainment system with HD-Ready television and surround sound system, having to spend a bit extra to get Blu-ray, we feel, isn't going to drive customers away. It's the bigger picture we are looking at."
That apparent naivety is why, according to the Blu-ray camp, players are considerably more expensive than their HD DVD counterparts, because they have to be profitable, and it seems that DVD no longer offered that kind of attractive bottom line.
"The DVD format was good, but profitability only lasted for a couple of years before there was no money to be had in the hardware market," said Marty. "We believe consumers are smart enough to realise the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Now all he does is stress profitability. Profitability for blu ray electronics manufacturers. Not a low cost for the consumer. He doesn't even mention a single advantage of Blu Ray over HD-DVD.
And as for how consumers are supposed to get around the Dreamworks and Paramount shift to HD DVD? "Buy it on DVD," Marty suggested - before quickly adding that Blu-ray players have upscaling features so you can still get the most out of the picture quality.
What ever you do, don't get a HD-DVD player! HD-DVD players upscale as well. Plus the discs often have regular DVD versions on the other side. Duhhh what do you think this tool would say?
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Re: morbidly (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» yes
omg dude your right......this is exactly like the holocaust...i just didnt realize it until now....TY ps3 fantard for removing this blindfold from me
omg dude your right......this is exactly like the holocaust...i just didnt realize it until now....TY ps3 fantard for removing this blindfold from me
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Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ fantard hater
tldr. get a dayjob.
tldr. get a dayjob.
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Re: Spectre (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» LMAO
If everyone would have just said, "Yeah, Hitler dawg, that's coo mang. Can we comes over to ur backyard and bbq with some b!tches and ho'z tomorrow night?" EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN TYTE.
I don't get your logic. BD is clearly wining the "war" and IS offering a truce to end it. How retarded are you to not understand the concept that there is something good that may come out of it? You would rather have it drag out longer than it has to so it'll take 100+ years to have a unifying media? Sorry, the average consumer doesn't have enough money to blow on 10 different players let alone the 23452432 movies.
Your PS3 was brought up to lead the war, because SONY is a part of the BDA. Do some research. Oh, btw, I hope you cats know that you're getting ripped off by HD-DVDs...do some research on how much you're paying for a gigabyte on an HD-DVD and compare it to Blu Ray. ROFL...now look who has retarded marketing schemes.
If everyone would have just said, "Yeah, Hitler dawg, that's coo mang. Can we comes over to ur backyard and bbq with some b!tches and ho'z tomorrow night?" EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN TYTE.
I don't get your logic. BD is clearly wining the "war" and IS offering a truce to end it. How retarded are you to not understand the concept that there is something good that may come out of it? You would rather have it drag out longer than it has to so it'll take 100+ years to have a unifying media? Sorry, the average consumer doesn't have enough money to blow on 10 different players let alone the 23452432 movies.
Your PS3 was brought up to lead the war, because SONY is a part of the BDA. Do some research. Oh, btw, I hope you cats know that you're getting ripped off by HD-DVDs...do some research on how much you're paying for a gigabyte on an HD-DVD and compare it to Blu Ray. ROFL...now look who has retarded marketing schemes.
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by nj (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» screw sony
sony is not helping the consumer by selling something more expensive ... both formats offer 1080p, so why would people go and spend more for something they can get cheaper? Yeah, bluray has more capacity, but so what? if movies are already 1080p now, then what is the point of the extra space, and if it ever is necessary, toshiba can add another layer for more space ... so why, oh why go pay more for what you can get for less?
sony is not helping the consumer by selling something more expensive ... both formats offer 1080p, so why would people go and spend more for something they can get cheaper? Yeah, bluray has more capacity, but so what? if movies are already 1080p now, then what is the point of the extra space, and if it ever is necessary, toshiba can add another layer for more space ... so why, oh why go pay more for what you can get for less?
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by eaglebaize (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» LMAO!!!!!!!!!
I got a new Acer laptop recently and it has an HD-DVD drive in it, not Blu-ray, but lol, I guess the writer of this article might have been talking about the majority or something. Anywho, I think...hmm.... I prefer Blu-ray of HD-DVD (But that's just me fyi).
I got a new Acer laptop recently and it has an HD-DVD drive in it, not Blu-ray, but lol, I guess the writer of this article might have been talking about the majority or something. Anywho, I think...hmm.... I prefer Blu-ray of HD-DVD (But that's just me fyi).
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by WHy (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Why
Why would people want to walk into a store and buy hd dvd r's when they can have 50 gigs of space per disc... and they have already made a working 200 gig blu - ray disc... HD DVD is dead.... Blockbuster doesn;t even rent them anymore.
Why would people want to walk into a store and buy hd dvd r's when they can have 50 gigs of space per disc... and they have already made a working 200 gig blu - ray disc... HD DVD is dead.... Blockbuster doesn;t even rent them anymore.
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by hd dvd (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» reply @ nj
We should pay more because if we buy electronics that are cheaper the manufactors do receive as much.
We should pay more because if we buy electronics that are cheaper the manufactors do receive as much.
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Re: nj (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» huh??
what?
what?
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by Vsions (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» you people supporting Microsoft are backward
Microsoft is trying to get into every aspect of your lives. They got heavily fined for monopolistic practices. They stole windows. They are a way bigger corp and truly try to force things on the consumer. Read about internet explorer and Media player, and how they illegally tried to cut out the competition. do you really want microsoft to run everything and have no competing market?
Microsoft is trying to get into every aspect of your lives. They got heavily fined for monopolistic practices. They stole windows. They are a way bigger corp and truly try to force things on the consumer. Read about internet explorer and Media player, and how they illegally tried to cut out the competition. do you really want microsoft to run everything and have no competing market?
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Re: nj (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» hello
Sony is just as bad + rootkits, i'm not backin microsoft, i'm backing toshiba. Sony is a Shark and so is microsoft. Sony wants to shove bluray down peoples throats with the ps3.
Sony is just as bad + rootkits, i'm not backin microsoft, i'm backing toshiba. Sony is a Shark and so is microsoft. Sony wants to shove bluray down peoples throats with the ps3.
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Re: dfg (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» you people supporting Sony are backward
Oh you mean Sony isnt doing whatever you accuse MS of?.
Oh you mean Sony isnt doing whatever you accuse MS of?.
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Re: Vsions (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» All corporate giants do similar things
but Microsoft has tried to infiltrate nearly every aspect of our lives. and no as far as I know Sony has never been penalized throughout the world for Monopolistic behavior like MS has. but if you can find something to the contrary I am willing to listen. By the way Im not saying Sony is innocent. but simply saying I dont want Microsoft to have a hand in everything. They already have too much power. and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In fact I wouldn't want Sony in that position either.
but Microsoft has tried to infiltrate nearly every aspect of our lives. and no as far as I know Sony has never been penalized throughout the world for Monopolistic behavior like MS has. but if you can find something to the contrary I am willing to listen. By the way Im not saying Sony is innocent. but simply saying I dont want Microsoft to have a hand in everything. They already have too much power. and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In fact I wouldn't want Sony in that position either.
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Re: Vsions (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Let me refrase
What I meant by my backward statement was not intended to be insulting to 360 owners, . or any one that has bought a microsoft product, so my apologies. My main point is that no one company should have dominating and exclusive access to any particular market. It kills both creativity and competition. So my comment is more directed at people who defend microsoft or sony blindly without realizing that both are crucial to a healthy market, in fact, while I personally dont like the Wii, I believe it is a great example of doing something creative to stay competetive. If the 360 was the only system available you would probably not have or Gears or Bioshock be as good as they are and vice versa for the up coming sony big hitters.
What I meant by my backward statement was not intended to be insulting to 360 owners, . or any one that has bought a microsoft product, so my apologies. My main point is that no one company should have dominating and exclusive access to any particular market. It kills both creativity and competition. So my comment is more directed at people who defend microsoft or sony blindly without realizing that both are crucial to a healthy market, in fact, while I personally dont like the Wii, I believe it is a great example of doing something creative to stay competetive. If the 360 was the only system available you would probably not have or Gears or Bioshock be as good as they are and vice versa for the up coming sony big hitters.
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Re: meh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ..
In a sense, that's why I never supported the xbox, being Microsoft owned. Then after I started contemplating getting one, the fans turned me off. 95% prepubescent bastards.
Sony, well their tactics and whatnot may be questionable, but their products are great. And I'm not stupid enough to buy CDs, so no rootkit for me.
In a sense, that's why I never supported the xbox, being Microsoft owned. Then after I started contemplating getting one, the fans turned me off. 95% prepubescent bastards.
Sony, well their tactics and whatnot may be questionable, but their products are great. And I'm not stupid enough to buy CDs, so no rootkit for me.
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Re: To meh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-07 |
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» To meh
"95% prepubescent bastards"
- foremost among them being Aoxomamoxoa :)
"95% prepubescent bastards"
- foremost among them being Aoxomamoxoa :)
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by dais (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» you people supporting ? are backward
I dont support any console but I have a 360 Elite so I suppose I support MS because its a fantastic machine and the games are better than any other console
I dont support any console but I have a 360 Elite so I suppose I support MS because its a fantastic machine and the games are better than any other console
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Re: dais (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Bad news guys
My 360 Elite doesn't work anymore it just turns on three red lights in the front.
My 360 Elite doesn't work anymore it just turns on three red lights in the front.
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Re: gg (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shut up
dais, stop being a c***** sucker
dais, stop being a c***** sucker
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Re: badz149 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shut up!!
no one is talking about games here and 360 have more games because it was the only next gen console for a good one year before Wii and PS3. So, shut up and play your elite before it gives you the RRoD!!
no one is talking about games here and 360 have more games because it was the only next gen console for a good one year before Wii and PS3. So, shut up and play your elite before it gives you the RRoD!!
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by ha ha ha ha ha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» GO SONY
look at all the bots cracking the sads over one blu-ray post, WANKERS
look at all the bots cracking the sads over one blu-ray post, WANKERS
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Re: foo (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shut up
the ps3 has nothing but ***** games and a crapy online system. shinny turd.
the ps3 has nothing but ***** games and a crapy online system. shinny turd.
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Re: Vietonee (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» GO MS
Er what your post makes no sense, do you own a PS3 and are so bored you posted meaningless words that we dont know wtf you are saying?.
Er what your post makes no sense, do you own a PS3 and are so bored you posted meaningless words that we dont know wtf you are saying?.
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Re: ha ha ha ha ha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» MS wankers
Poor angry foo foo you shut the ***** up u little girl and Vietonee once u get out of your MS diaper and grow you will understand, tossers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor angry foo foo you shut the ***** up u little girl and Vietonee once u get out of your MS diaper and grow you will understand, tossers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ha ha ha ha ha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ha
yo momma is a hoe ... ha
yo momma is a hoe ... ha
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Re: badz149 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» @foo
yeah, go play on XBL that you have to pay for it when PS3 gamers play online for free!!
yeah, go play on XBL that you have to pay for it when PS3 gamers play online for free!!
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Re: ha ha ha ha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» fk stick
Yeah no *****, so what if she is, GO PS3!
Yeah no *****, so what if she is, GO PS3!
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by yo (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ...
MS better give in or their HDDVD format is going to sink along with MS. Blu ray is the only thing MS can invest in before their company collapses.
MS better give in or their HDDVD format is going to sink along with MS. Blu ray is the only thing MS can invest in before their company collapses.
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by na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» We are not ready to download yet
Not until the old generation die off and we become the next old aged pensioners (not looking 4ward either).
By then, computers will be as mainstream as TVs and telephones and Internet will be as mainstream as a gas and electricity.
Surely internet speeds will be SKYHIGH
Not until the old generation die off and we become the next old aged pensioners (not looking 4ward either).
By then, computers will be as mainstream as TVs and telephones and Internet will be as mainstream as a gas and electricity.
Surely internet speeds will be SKYHIGH
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by matt (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» To the very first poster...
You say youtube is a counter example to the article, but think about what bluray offers. Bluray is not like DVD. It will be a long time till the internet can offer REAL TIME 1080p streaming. Youtube has very low quality video even though so many people proclaim it's goodness.
You say youtube is a counter example to the article, but think about what bluray offers. Bluray is not like DVD. It will be a long time till the internet can offer REAL TIME 1080p streaming. Youtube has very low quality video even though so many people proclaim it's goodness.
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by yo momma (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shut up
xbox 360 = less expensive, more games, better games, better online service, better downloadable content, prefered by developers, Doesn't restric memory usage Better Graphics so far ... hah hah, red ring of death ... will you get it?
PS3 = less games, blu-ray whoopie, is rumble in there yet?, expensive, memory restrictions, under par frame rates.
xbox 360 = less expensive, more games, better games, better online service, better downloadable content, prefered by developers, Doesn't restric memory usage Better Graphics so far ... hah hah, red ring of death ... will you get it?
PS3 = less games, blu-ray whoopie, is rumble in there yet?, expensive, memory restrictions, under par frame rates.
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Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» you and your mum
is a chode.
is a chode.
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by Sean (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ...
Well, as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft has only one choice here. They may as well move into the Blu-ray camp. Really. If they don't, what other format are they going to put games on when they come out with their next gen system? By that time, HD-DVD won't even be around. There will be no reason for them to put games on a platform that isn't being used otherwise. And to put games on DVD for the successor of the 360 would be crazy. Sony had the right idea about using Blu-ray and even though I hate Microsoft, I feel like they should stop trying to be bigger and better and start being sensible.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft has only one choice here. They may as well move into the Blu-ray camp. Really. If they don't, what other format are they going to put games on when they come out with their next gen system? By that time, HD-DVD won't even be around. There will be no reason for them to put games on a platform that isn't being used otherwise. And to put games on DVD for the successor of the 360 would be crazy. Sony had the right idea about using Blu-ray and even though I hate Microsoft, I feel like they should stop trying to be bigger and better and start being sensible.
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by Skippedebebop (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Hey yo momma
How can you say that about the PS3...do you even own one you misinformed fanboy..... Duh there is less games out because you had a yr and a half head start you bunch of pussies. What are the memory restrictions you dunce.
The only restrictions are that the 360 has to have a Microsoft hard drive which is over priced. In the Ps3 you can put a SATA drive of up to 750 GB. Downloadable content. *****a, whatever downloadable content you download we already got on the blu-ray disc. man you say u started the next generation but you use last gen technology.And on top of that M$ had a head start of a yr.
Don't call the PS3expensive because when you buy the system and all the stuff it takes to go online the Ps3 actually cheaper. Why would you pay $60 bucks for a DVD game and then ***** about the PS3when the blu ray game is the same price and holds about 5 times as much storage as your *****... for the same price. Your getting ripped of and you know it. Now go to the 360 board you piece of scum. We will stomp on you by the time MGS4 comes out.
How can you say that about the PS3...do you even own one you misinformed fanboy..... Duh there is less games out because you had a yr and a half head start you bunch of pussies. What are the memory restrictions you dunce.
The only restrictions are that the 360 has to have a Microsoft hard drive which is over priced. In the Ps3 you can put a SATA drive of up to 750 GB. Downloadable content. *****a, whatever downloadable content you download we already got on the blu-ray disc. man you say u started the next generation but you use last gen technology.And on top of that M$ had a head start of a yr.
Don't call the PS3expensive because when you buy the system and all the stuff it takes to go online the Ps3 actually cheaper. Why would you pay $60 bucks for a DVD game and then ***** about the PS3when the blu ray game is the same price and holds about 5 times as much storage as your *****... for the same price. Your getting ripped of and you know it. Now go to the 360 board you piece of scum. We will stomp on you by the time MGS4 comes out.
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Re: you (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» are
an idiot. The PS3 has memory restrictions ... do some research dirtbag.
an idiot. The PS3 has memory restrictions ... do some research dirtbag.
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by DumbAss Fanboys (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Calm Down Rookies
To this retard mohaas05: Yes there are two PS3 Exclusives that are below what you call decent LAIR LOL and MotorStorm( MotorStorm developers could have been smarter and could at least have added a split-screen option "RETARDS")
You can check the following sites IGN.COM and GAMESPOT.COM those are two different sites. But I see your still hurting because LAIR sucked ass and it was the "IT" game. 4.5 WOW what 360 game scored that low XD
To Skippedebebop: Yes they had a Year head start, But within the year M$ started $ony had plenty of time to develop enough games for you starving "FANBOYS" and o yeah Blu-ray doesn't do much for the quality moron all you'll be doing is paying more for a disc that takes longer to load. XD For the downloadable content, OK one game oblivion the reason why they gave P$3 fans the expansion is because of the wait but if not that you guys wouldn.t have shiit because at G4 the developers who created Oblivion weren't even thinking of bringing the game to the P$3 not after the glory it got on the M$'s 360. Just compare the difference's between F.E.A.R. for the P$3 and the 360, It was a port from the PC on both console's and the 360's is better and not only that the "360 FANBOYS" will be getting the expansion pack obviously its gonna cost something because it cost's something for the PC version so obviously nothing comes free.
So all-in-all why battle these damn wars just wait till that date come when this gay format war ends and just me i think people will just skip over this generation because in my opinion DVD's still look great
AND CAN'T WAIT FOR MGS4 CHEAAA!!
To this retard mohaas05: Yes there are two PS3 Exclusives that are below what you call decent LAIR LOL and MotorStorm( MotorStorm developers could have been smarter and could at least have added a split-screen option "RETARDS")
You can check the following sites IGN.COM and GAMESPOT.COM those are two different sites. But I see your still hurting because LAIR sucked ass and it was the "IT" game. 4.5 WOW what 360 game scored that low XD
To Skippedebebop: Yes they had a Year head start, But within the year M$ started $ony had plenty of time to develop enough games for you starving "FANBOYS" and o yeah Blu-ray doesn't do much for the quality moron all you'll be doing is paying more for a disc that takes longer to load. XD For the downloadable content, OK one game oblivion the reason why they gave P$3 fans the expansion is because of the wait but if not that you guys wouldn.t have shiit because at G4 the developers who created Oblivion weren't even thinking of bringing the game to the P$3 not after the glory it got on the M$'s 360. Just compare the difference's between F.E.A.R. for the P$3 and the 360, It was a port from the PC on both console's and the 360's is better and not only that the "360 FANBOYS" will be getting the expansion pack obviously its gonna cost something because it cost's something for the PC version so obviously nothing comes free.
So all-in-all why battle these damn wars just wait till that date come when this gay format war ends and just me i think people will just skip over this generation because in my opinion DVD's still look great
AND CAN'T WAIT FOR MGS4 CHEAAA!!
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
Man, this post takes the cake for being long and utterly stupid. You are one uncohesive and utterly misinformed individual. No point disecting this post.
Man, this post takes the cake for being long and utterly stupid. You are one uncohesive and utterly misinformed individual. No point disecting this post.
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by the by (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» god!!!
theres alot of m$ fanboys on this thread eh??
whats wrong boys and girls?? not got anymore good exclusives to play??or are you guys still in denial that dvd gaming isnt the way to go??
i think the real winner here will be when re writable pc drives come down in price for the mainstream market!! blueray will win in that respect due to the bigger storage ability!!!
by the way!!! let me know the site address for we love m$ site, i ll easily go on there and put sh1t on that site to let you guys know how it feels!!!!
theres alot of m$ fanboys on this thread eh??
whats wrong boys and girls?? not got anymore good exclusives to play??or are you guys still in denial that dvd gaming isnt the way to go??
i think the real winner here will be when re writable pc drives come down in price for the mainstream market!! blueray will win in that respect due to the bigger storage ability!!!
by the way!!! let me know the site address for we love m$ site, i ll easily go on there and put sh1t on that site to let you guys know how it feels!!!!
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by hrm (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» hrm
I have to admit I really wish one format would have won a long time ago. I have an xbox360 (cause it was out first not cause I think it's the better machine) but have refused to buy the HDD add on till I see some clear outcome. PS3 doesn't really matter as it isn't just for playing movies but games too, so if bluray loses the war (which it's isn't looking like) it doesn't matter if you bought it for the games (which you should have). I'll buy an out of the box player down the track when one is the winner, till then I don't want to end up wasting my time. Most the movies I watch on my 50" are divx anyway.
I have to admit I really wish one format would have won a long time ago. I have an xbox360 (cause it was out first not cause I think it's the better machine) but have refused to buy the HDD add on till I see some clear outcome. PS3 doesn't really matter as it isn't just for playing movies but games too, so if bluray loses the war (which it's isn't looking like) it doesn't matter if you bought it for the games (which you should have). I'll buy an out of the box player down the track when one is the winner, till then I don't want to end up wasting my time. Most the movies I watch on my 50" are divx anyway.
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Re: hrm (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» hrm
sorry meant "HD-DVD" typo.
sorry meant "HD-DVD" typo.
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by ban (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Why does everyone think MS hates Blu-Ray?
They have said in the past if BR wins they will offer something. MS doesn't own HD-DVD, they won't incur some huge loss if it loses, besides the few million they have paid to various companies to support it, which is chump change to MS .
BTW, to the guy above me, this article was strictly about movies, so why bother mentioning DVDs for games being inadequate? That's not what this is about.
Oh and for the exclusives comment, as far as I know, the only new PS3 exclusive out right now is Lair, which averages about a 6/10. Congratulations.
They have said in the past if BR wins they will offer something. MS doesn't own HD-DVD, they won't incur some huge loss if it loses, besides the few million they have paid to various companies to support it, which is chump change to MS .
BTW, to the guy above me, this article was strictly about movies, so why bother mentioning DVDs for games being inadequate? That's not what this is about.
Oh and for the exclusives comment, as far as I know, the only new PS3 exclusive out right now is Lair, which averages about a 6/10. Congratulations.
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Re: ban (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Oops
The last two paragraphs are directed at "the by", not hrm
The last two paragraphs are directed at "the by", not hrm
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Re: Silva (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» oh that's cute
The Xbot conveniently forgot about Warhawk and Heavenly Sword that comes out in 6 days. And it is my understanding that the only people who bring up the Lair review are insecure little xbots like you. But you know what I'm still gonna pick Lair up in a couple of days. If I listened to reviews I never would have discovered games like: Chaos Legion, Siren, Tenchu Fatal Shadows, Nightshade. All these games scored very low and yet they are some of my favorite PS2 games ever. I know that Lair will not disappoint me.
The Xbot conveniently forgot about Warhawk and Heavenly Sword that comes out in 6 days. And it is my understanding that the only people who bring up the Lair review are insecure little xbots like you. But you know what I'm still gonna pick Lair up in a couple of days. If I listened to reviews I never would have discovered games like: Chaos Legion, Siren, Tenchu Fatal Shadows, Nightshade. All these games scored very low and yet they are some of my favorite PS2 games ever. I know that Lair will not disappoint me.
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Re: ban (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» "The" Lair review?
Well Sony tard, maybe you should check here. I said it AVERAGES a 6/10, you know what an average is right? I'm not just talking about that EGM review, there are many more, many of them much worse
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/lair
In fact, in the few hours since I checked it last, it went down from a 58 average to a 57, and has a 6.7 average user review over 88 ratings. And the only decent review its gotten is from a group nobody cares about, Play. Have fun with that no-doubt awesome game you're about to buy. /sarcasm
BTW, I actually like the look of Warhawk, and you're right I did forget about that one, but I just learned it has only FIVE MAPS. A multiplayer only game with just five maps. That my friend, is a joke if I ever heard one. At least, for $60 it is. That's a bigger rip than $60 for Shadowrun. Lower that to around $20 or $30 and you've got a great deal.
And yes, I do know that you can download it from the Sony store for $40, which is still too much, but I'm on low-quality DSL, and I cannot download a game like Warhawk over my connection, not without leaving the system on for a week anyway. Sony should have just not been retarded for once and let people buy the game in stores WITHOUT a headset for $40.
Well Sony tard, maybe you should check here. I said it AVERAGES a 6/10, you know what an average is right? I'm not just talking about that EGM review, there are many more, many of them much worse
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/lair
In fact, in the few hours since I checked it last, it went down from a 58 average to a 57, and has a 6.7 average user review over 88 ratings. And the only decent review its gotten is from a group nobody cares about, Play. Have fun with that no-doubt awesome game you're about to buy. /sarcasm
BTW, I actually like the look of Warhawk, and you're right I did forget about that one, but I just learned it has only FIVE MAPS. A multiplayer only game with just five maps. That my friend, is a joke if I ever heard one. At least, for $60 it is. That's a bigger rip than $60 for Shadowrun. Lower that to around $20 or $30 and you've got a great deal.
And yes, I do know that you can download it from the Sony store for $40, which is still too much, but I'm on low-quality DSL, and I cannot download a game like Warhawk over my connection, not without leaving the system on for a week anyway. Sony should have just not been retarded for once and let people buy the game in stores WITHOUT a headset for $40.
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by Kamiboy (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» all the Borgtards can suck me sideways
Ok all borgtards get your tongues out of uncle Bills ass for a second and listen up. All the money in the world cant save HDDVD and downloadable videos on live? EHHHH! Wrong, the right answer was iTunes, yes iTunes is going to rape uncle Billy on that front. You can insert your tongues up uncle Billys anus again borgtards.
Ok all borgtards get your tongues out of uncle Bills ass for a second and listen up. All the money in the world cant save HDDVD and downloadable videos on live? EHHHH! Wrong, the right answer was iTunes, yes iTunes is going to rape uncle Billy on that front. You can insert your tongues up uncle Billys anus again borgtards.
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by Unlesh_Your_Fury (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» Right on Silva
Most of the games you love have nothing to do with the reviews even if it was below a 5. I personally hate FPS and there are just too many FPS trash on Xbots.
They usually get rediculously over rating for something my grandman can take her time playing while scratching her ass..
To me they are extremely slow pace and has horrible game play. There are more games on Play Station history that are innovative and more fast pace for real hardcore players.
I always get the reply "you suck at shooting
games"...Wrong I love shooting games....I love Resident Evil 4 so much i beated the game 13 times with thousands of head shot and follow up with a kick to the face.
So if you like sorry slow games that makes you feel like you're an 80yr old sure get a xbot
Most of the games you love have nothing to do with the reviews even if it was below a 5. I personally hate FPS and there are just too many FPS trash on Xbots.
They usually get rediculously over rating for something my grandman can take her time playing while scratching her ass..
To me they are extremely slow pace and has horrible game play. There are more games on Play Station history that are innovative and more fast pace for real hardcore players.
I always get the reply "you suck at shooting
games"...Wrong I love shooting games....I love Resident Evil 4 so much i beated the game 13 times with thousands of head shot and follow up with a kick to the face.
So if you like sorry slow games that makes you feel like you're an 80yr old sure get a xbot
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by Spaz (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» Kids talking on here dont know sh*t
A HD movie in 720p is about 4GB, and a 1080p is only 10GB, so stop throwing around stupid maxium disk capacity numbers.
A HD movie in 720p is about 4GB, and a 1080p is only 10GB, so stop throwing around stupid maxium disk capacity numbers.
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Re: rye (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» ...
all you lot are sad uv missed the point of the article and r going about random crap. Who cares if blu ray fails like the umd doesn't mean they will stop making games (which is what u brought the console for). I cudnt care less about hd i think dvds r still better since they r cheaper. I have both consoles both best parts of each nuff said. Im off to real life.
all you lot are sad uv missed the point of the article and r going about random crap. Who cares if blu ray fails like the umd doesn't mean they will stop making games (which is what u brought the console for). I cudnt care less about hd i think dvds r still better since they r cheaper. I have both consoles both best parts of each nuff said. Im off to real life.
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Re: very true (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» correct
And if your worried about storing movies on harddrives in the future that are 4GB and above you have to realize that with computers, speed and storage goes up exponentialy every year. So right now I can pick up a 1-tera USB Harddrive for about 400$ but next year around the same time they'll probably be offering 2-4 tera usb Harddrives for the same price. Am I the only person who has seen computers with 1 meg of RAM?
Grow up and learn more about how technology evolves, the fate of the technological world does not rest in the hands of two companies trying to push their formats for profits. It always comes down to whats cheeper and more efficent.
And if your worried about storing movies on harddrives in the future that are 4GB and above you have to realize that with computers, speed and storage goes up exponentialy every year. So right now I can pick up a 1-tera USB Harddrive for about 400$ but next year around the same time they'll probably be offering 2-4 tera usb Harddrives for the same price. Am I the only person who has seen computers with 1 meg of RAM?
Grow up and learn more about how technology evolves, the fate of the technological world does not rest in the hands of two companies trying to push their formats for profits. It always comes down to whats cheeper and more efficent.
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by suck (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» my
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Re: Joostin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» You guys flame and flame and flame....
Does anyone have a life anymore, true i am posting here as well. The fact is, I jsut couldn't stand by in the shadows while uneducated/uninformed internet "know-it-alls" go back and forth about something this stupid.
So to add my two cents, Blu-ray will win this war, period. You may ask, how do I back up my opinion. Well, I have been a computer engineering student for the past 3 years and I have done some major research papers on Blu-ray. To be fair, I did not do as much research into the HD-DVD camp. Let us look at this argument closely. HD-DVD right now has a max capacity of around 20GB, BD has about 50GB. This is before any dual, triple or quadruple layered versions. Some might argue, "Well the HD-DVD camp is talking about a quad layer disk already". This may be true, but there is not one single drive in the market that can read this disk. This goes for the BD camp as well, excluding the firmware upgradable PS3. But let's leave that arguement for a second.
HD-DVD is the inferior format. That is the bottom line. Disney has already confirmed that due to lack of storage space, HD-DVD would be impossible for the company to release top-end "TRUE HD" movies. A film like Pirates: At World's End would take around 3 disks to get the release quality the company would like. This is a fact, paraphrased from an interview with Disney's chair. This all fits onto 1 BD disc with interactivity through the Java capabilities built into every BD player. I don't know about you, but I would rather put in one disc and not have to swap it for another one. I know this huge arguement is between M$ and $ony fanboys. But just give your head a shake, take a step back and really think what this arguement is about.
Also, I wanted to add my opinion to the PS3 vs. 360 "Elite" arguement. I don't think it is worth calling it an "Elite" system. True 360 has more and better games than the 360 right now, but if any of you understand computer architechture and performance, this is not going to last for Microsoft. Yes, 9GB is enough for the games on the 360, but not on the PS3. The 360 can compute about 12-15secs of real-time 4D graphics, meaning if you walk don a street in a game the weather could wear down the path, houses, etc for about 12-15secs before the slate is wiped clean and has to start those computations all over again. So not really effective in providing 4D graphics. Whereas the PS3 can compute and output true 4D graphics throughout an entire game thanks to the Cell Processor. I know, I know...everyone doubts the PS3 right now. Just sit back, relax and wait for the developers to catch up and figure out the secrets of the Cell and you will be in for a treat! I love playing xbox live so I am not gonna bash M$ into the ground. I just 'know' the PS3 will be able to provide better games in perhaps a year, or even two years time. They require the storage space of the BD to have all of the algorithms for 4D texture manipulation as well as full 7.1 sound, HD cutscenes, and all around gameplay.
That being said, it is very possible to have top quality games on the 360 as we have seen. I just think everyone needs to stop hating and realize the PS3 is here to stay and no matter what is said on the internet, it is the superior system. Give it some time.
Finally, I know this is taking forever, what is true with next-gen gaming is true with next-gen video.
Yes internet video is huge, but who wants to watch a scaled down version on their nice new fancy ~50" HDTV and home theatre system? Usually the target market for home video is not filled with tech savy people, as some of you may be. I see internet downloading service for at par movies (meaning the same quality you can get from a movie you grab at Blockbuster), in the near future. Perhaps 8-10 years down the road.
Feel free to flame as I'm sure that is what half of you are here for instead of an intelligent debate, so I will just take it with a grain of salt.
For all who find this helpful, Thank you and you're welcome.
Justin
Does anyone have a life anymore, true i am posting here as well. The fact is, I jsut couldn't stand by in the shadows while uneducated/uninformed internet "know-it-alls" go back and forth about something this stupid.
So to add my two cents, Blu-ray will win this war, period. You may ask, how do I back up my opinion. Well, I have been a computer engineering student for the past 3 years and I have done some major research papers on Blu-ray. To be fair, I did not do as much research into the HD-DVD camp. Let us look at this argument closely. HD-DVD right now has a max capacity of around 20GB, BD has about 50GB. This is before any dual, triple or quadruple layered versions. Some might argue, "Well the HD-DVD camp is talking about a quad layer disk already". This may be true, but there is not one single drive in the market that can read this disk. This goes for the BD camp as well, excluding the firmware upgradable PS3. But let's leave that arguement for a second.
HD-DVD is the inferior format. That is the bottom line. Disney has already confirmed that due to lack of storage space, HD-DVD would be impossible for the company to release top-end "TRUE HD" movies. A film like Pirates: At World's End would take around 3 disks to get the release quality the company would like. This is a fact, paraphrased from an interview with Disney's chair. This all fits onto 1 BD disc with interactivity through the Java capabilities built into every BD player. I don't know about you, but I would rather put in one disc and not have to swap it for another one. I know this huge arguement is between M$ and $ony fanboys. But just give your head a shake, take a step back and really think what this arguement is about.
Also, I wanted to add my opinion to the PS3 vs. 360 "Elite" arguement. I don't think it is worth calling it an "Elite" system. True 360 has more and better games than the 360 right now, but if any of you understand computer architechture and performance, this is not going to last for Microsoft. Yes, 9GB is enough for the games on the 360, but not on the PS3. The 360 can compute about 12-15secs of real-time 4D graphics, meaning if you walk don a street in a game the weather could wear down the path, houses, etc for about 12-15secs before the slate is wiped clean and has to start those computations all over again. So not really effective in providing 4D graphics. Whereas the PS3 can compute and output true 4D graphics throughout an entire game thanks to the Cell Processor. I know, I know...everyone doubts the PS3 right now. Just sit back, relax and wait for the developers to catch up and figure out the secrets of the Cell and you will be in for a treat! I love playing xbox live so I am not gonna bash M$ into the ground. I just 'know' the PS3 will be able to provide better games in perhaps a year, or even two years time. They require the storage space of the BD to have all of the algorithms for 4D texture manipulation as well as full 7.1 sound, HD cutscenes, and all around gameplay.
That being said, it is very possible to have top quality games on the 360 as we have seen. I just think everyone needs to stop hating and realize the PS3 is here to stay and no matter what is said on the internet, it is the superior system. Give it some time.
Finally, I know this is taking forever, what is true with next-gen gaming is true with next-gen video.
Yes internet video is huge, but who wants to watch a scaled down version on their nice new fancy ~50" HDTV and home theatre system? Usually the target market for home video is not filled with tech savy people, as some of you may be. I see internet downloading service for at par movies (meaning the same quality you can get from a movie you grab at Blockbuster), in the near future. Perhaps 8-10 years down the road.
Feel free to flame as I'm sure that is what half of you are here for instead of an intelligent debate, so I will just take it with a grain of salt.
For all who find this helpful, Thank you and you're welcome.
Justin
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by AquaInferno (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» Hmmm
Well I know there are some movies avail in HI Def MP4 for viewing on one's PS3/360. So isn't this just HDDVD/Blu-Ray movies ripped and compressed. If so, this guy who's sayin the blah blah about the internet bein a decade behind is clearly still usin AOL 3.0
Well I know there are some movies avail in HI Def MP4 for viewing on one's PS3/360. So isn't this just HDDVD/Blu-Ray movies ripped and compressed. If so, this guy who's sayin the blah blah about the internet bein a decade behind is clearly still usin AOL 3.0
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Re: Joostin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» ...
All I have to say is "At Par". Compression is not at par. Maybe close, but for full sound and picture quality/interactivity you are gonna have to go out and buy youself a Bluray player. That is what I meant with the blah blah blah, but hey thanks for reply.
Justin
All I have to say is "At Par". Compression is not at par. Maybe close, but for full sound and picture quality/interactivity you are gonna have to go out and buy youself a Bluray player. That is what I meant with the blah blah blah, but hey thanks for reply.
Justin
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