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by Shatterdome - 2007-09-05 |
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» haha....
A good way to deliver music but not video......millions of youtube visitors would have to disagree, as well as millions of pirated downloading many many movies.....as well as everyone on movie marketplace.....sorry...
A good way to deliver music but not video......millions of youtube visitors would have to disagree, as well as millions of pirated downloading many many movies.....as well as everyone on movie marketplace.....sorry...
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Re: the reason (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» shatter
people download lots of pirated movies because they dont pay..........!!! and you tube vids aint really that big......the majority of peeps think its easyer to buy DVDs now and Blu Ray is the next attractive Tech.
people download lots of pirated movies because they dont pay..........!!! and you tube vids aint really that big......the majority of peeps think its easyer to buy DVDs now and Blu Ray is the next attractive Tech.
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
Well in a sense he's right, noone's gonna be downloading 30+ gb for just one movie iso. But then again, there's such thing as compression.
Well in a sense he's right, noone's gonna be downloading 30+ gb for just one movie iso. But then again, there's such thing as compression.
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Re: wow (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Cry of desperation
This sounds like desperation, now the Hard drives are getting so large no one really wants or cares about the size of the SLOW BLURAY/HDDVD players, in the end the Devs are going to go for the PC route and install almost all the data to hard drive so dvd size means ZERO (And the devs are only interested in OFFICIAL HARD DRIVE SIZES) so at the moment the 360 ELITE has the edge. The only way for the PS3 to compete is to DROP yet another PS3 system(the 20 and 60 gig and now the 80 gig version)...
Why is it that no matter what they do the HDDVD standalone players sell far more than the Blu Ray player?, consumers go to the shop and compare they dont believe anything they read they are sensible and go and actually see for themselves.
This sounds like desperation, now the Hard drives are getting so large no one really wants or cares about the size of the SLOW BLURAY/HDDVD players, in the end the Devs are going to go for the PC route and install almost all the data to hard drive so dvd size means ZERO (And the devs are only interested in OFFICIAL HARD DRIVE SIZES) so at the moment the 360 ELITE has the edge. The only way for the PS3 to compete is to DROP yet another PS3 system(the 20 and 60 gig and now the 80 gig version)...
Why is it that no matter what they do the HDDVD standalone players sell far more than the Blu Ray player?, consumers go to the shop and compare they dont believe anything they read they are sensible and go and actually see for themselves.
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Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» xbox live
Video marketplace ???
Video marketplace ???
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Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» movie enthusiast
my question to all of you is what size movie collections do you have? because i have over 600 movies and counting! my point is how many terabytes of hard drive space would i need to get anywhere near that type of hd movie collection on my pc with each movie ranging from 25 to 50 gb. also why would i take so many hours out of my life to download these huge files to my stationary (not portable) pc. and also i dont all of my trust in computers one virus and pc repair later all of your files are gone with no way to get them back without backup and who really has the storage capacity to back up that type of collection? give me tangible items not digital
my question to all of you is what size movie collections do you have? because i have over 600 movies and counting! my point is how many terabytes of hard drive space would i need to get anywhere near that type of hd movie collection on my pc with each movie ranging from 25 to 50 gb. also why would i take so many hours out of my life to download these huge files to my stationary (not portable) pc. and also i dont all of my trust in computers one virus and pc repair later all of your files are gone with no way to get them back without backup and who really has the storage capacity to back up that type of collection? give me tangible items not digital
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» To "me (Unregistered)"
movie enthusiast,
You've listed all of my concerns regarding hard-drive storage and downloading in one single paragraph!
Thanks. You've put most of my arguments against hard-drive storage in a single paragraph.
movie enthusiast,
You've listed all of my concerns regarding hard-drive storage and downloading in one single paragraph!
Thanks. You've put most of my arguments against hard-drive storage in a single paragraph.
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to wow
First off Sony doesn't need to make a new PS3 with a larger HDD drive to "compete" with the xbox Elite. Unlike the xbox any PS3 owner can go buy ANY 2.5" sata HDD and install it into their system. There are no warranty violations or HEAVILY over priced proprietary (xbox) drive that has to be bought. (xbox:120gig + $170, PS3: 120gig + $65 at newegg) Also the only reason that the HDDVD drives supposedly outsell the blu-ray drives is because the study didn't count the most affordable blu-ray drive out, the PS3. So how is it that the Blu-ray discs are outselling HDDVD discs?
First off Sony doesn't need to make a new PS3 with a larger HDD drive to "compete" with the xbox Elite. Unlike the xbox any PS3 owner can go buy ANY 2.5" sata HDD and install it into their system. There are no warranty violations or HEAVILY over priced proprietary (xbox) drive that has to be bought. (xbox:120gig + $170, PS3: 120gig + $65 at newegg) Also the only reason that the HDDVD drives supposedly outsell the blu-ray drives is because the study didn't count the most affordable blu-ray drive out, the PS3. So how is it that the Blu-ray discs are outselling HDDVD discs?
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Re: df (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» WOW is correct, PS3 harddrive is to small for the future
Person above me quotes YER BUT PS3 SATA DRIVE SIZES is stupid, DEVS only want to develope for OFFICIAL SIZE hard drives released by MS and Sony ,other 3rd party drives mean NOTHING to devs( why do you think Sony have already DROPPED TWO PS3 systems (the 20 gig and the 60 gig hard drive versions).. WORK IT OUT WHY>>>
Person above me quotes YER BUT PS3 SATA DRIVE SIZES is stupid, DEVS only want to develope for OFFICIAL SIZE hard drives released by MS and Sony ,other 3rd party drives mean NOTHING to devs( why do you think Sony have already DROPPED TWO PS3 systems (the 20 gig and the 60 gig hard drive versions).. WORK IT OUT WHY>>>
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ ^
By that logic the standard size for the xbox is a memory card, its the lowest common denominator. While the PS3 is 20gigs. how flawed is your logic?
By that logic the standard size for the xbox is a memory card, its the lowest common denominator. While the PS3 is 20gigs. how flawed is your logic?
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Re: 500mb, was took up to max by gears of war (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» 360 lost
the 360 loses in hard drive wise they already screwed up by offering a 360 without a hdd so they got to put those people in mind....its like if they add another anolouge stick to the psp people are gonna SUE!!!!........................games on the 360 have a 500mb limit to use for games , but since ps3 all come with at least 20 gigs ...developers know they have 20.5 gigs to use up on theire games..........
i devoted 4 gig to oblivian, and it runs amazingly ..without load times and looks better than 360's and every item ive ever dropped or thing ive killed stays in the same place.....fer eva n eva
the 360 loses in hard drive wise they already screwed up by offering a 360 without a hdd so they got to put those people in mind....its like if they add another anolouge stick to the psp people are gonna SUE!!!!........................games on the 360 have a 500mb limit to use for games , but since ps3 all come with at least 20 gigs ...developers know they have 20.5 gigs to use up on theire games..........
i devoted 4 gig to oblivian, and it runs amazingly ..without load times and looks better than 360's and every item ive ever dropped or thing ive killed stays in the same place.....fer eva n eva
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Re: tryt (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» MS knew what was going to happen years ago
No its not the lowest PS3 is now 80 gig the others are dropped, MS have almost allowed the new games to have a min of 20 gig so the next step wil be 120gb MS seem to have know all along the DVD disc size will play NO part in next gen consoles.
No its not the lowest PS3 is now 80 gig the others are dropped, MS have almost allowed the new games to have a min of 20 gig so the next step wil be 120gb MS seem to have know all along the DVD disc size will play NO part in next gen consoles.
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ df retarded logic
Still devs hav to consider ??? er 0mb wen making for the 360. Devs are able to consider as much as they like wen developing for the ps3 not lthat 1 game will require 20gigs for cache or wotever
Still devs hav to consider ??? er 0mb wen making for the 360. Devs are able to consider as much as they like wen developing for the ps3 not lthat 1 game will require 20gigs for cache or wotever
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
I think buying a blu-ray for 18$(amazon allright!) is easier than using up my bandwith for movies, looks like YOU, are downloading the wrong things.- kthxbai, that's my two yen for a people with a cent.
I think buying a blu-ray for 18$(amazon allright!) is easier than using up my bandwith for movies, looks like YOU, are downloading the wrong things.- kthxbai, that's my two yen for a people with a cent.
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Re: .... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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df dude they drop the other 20 gb so that there's only 1 system to choose from that was the 60 gb and now that they have the 80 gb they dropped the 60gb so that way the consumer doesn't have to think about which one to buy. It makes it easier than to choose between 2 same system. It's like if you choose the premium you would probably think that it's cheaper but then you might end up regreting it because it doesn't have the HDMI and whatever the elite has.
df dude they drop the other 20 gb so that there's only 1 system to choose from that was the 60 gb and now that they have the 80 gb they dropped the 60gb so that way the consumer doesn't have to think about which one to buy. It makes it easier than to choose between 2 same system. It's like if you choose the premium you would probably think that it's cheaper but then you might end up regreting it because it doesn't have the HDMI and whatever the elite has.
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Re: hahahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to tryt
MS did know what they were doing years ago. thats why they created the core 360. then the 360 elite. then the HDMI with the premium. they were ready
MS did know what they were doing years ago. thats why they created the core 360. then the 360 elite. then the HDMI with the premium. they were ready
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Re: Stealth! - 2007-09-06 |
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» LOL
Well i don't see MS accepting there invitation, Toshiba maybe. MS is now reaping the faults of there formats choice.
Well i don't see MS accepting there invitation, Toshiba maybe. MS is now reaping the faults of there formats choice.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-09-06 |
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» Not an invitation
It would be completely stupid of Toshiba to accept this "invitation" to accept all things blu ray.
Why?
Millions and millions of dollars lost in HD-DVD development.
Consumers who bought players would feel cheated by Toshiba. They would lose confidence in the company, and their reputation would be tarnished for years.
Members of the HD-DVD group would feel cheated as well. They have invested significant money into the format. Lawsuits would likely follow.
The exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks cost $150-$250 million. That would most likely be lost. A similar deal was likely made with Universal last year.
It's no secret the Blu ray's association's marketing tactics have been ethically questionable. The Blu ray association claimed victory multiple times, the first after selling twice as many discs for a 2 week period, after a large number of new releases on Blu ray. Sony's Peter Dille said HD-DVD would be dead within months, while defending the already dead UMD movie format. Disney has said there is no format war outside of the United States.
Giving up on HD-DVD without a fight and adopting Blu ray would mean this type of marketing has been a success, and Sony will continue to introduce their own media and attempt to gain exclusive profits off what was once a cooperative effort involving many different manufacturers.
While I want this format war to end, this would be a disaster for both electronics companies and consumers. The pricing of Blu ray products compared to HD-DVD proves what Sony is after. If there was no competition, would Blu ray cost even more?
This statment by Don Elkund was nothing more than a PR effort to make Sony and Blu ray appear to be the "good guys." He knows it would be idiotic for Toshiba, Microsoft, or any others to give in.
Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. They can't do that when Chinese import DVD players are $20. Sony was not happy with their cut of DVD development and immediately started independent development on Blu ray.
It would be completely stupid of Toshiba to accept this "invitation" to accept all things blu ray.
Why?
Millions and millions of dollars lost in HD-DVD development.
Consumers who bought players would feel cheated by Toshiba. They would lose confidence in the company, and their reputation would be tarnished for years.
Members of the HD-DVD group would feel cheated as well. They have invested significant money into the format. Lawsuits would likely follow.
The exclusivity deal with Paramount and Dreamworks cost $150-$250 million. That would most likely be lost. A similar deal was likely made with Universal last year.
It's no secret the Blu ray's association's marketing tactics have been ethically questionable. The Blu ray association claimed victory multiple times, the first after selling twice as many discs for a 2 week period, after a large number of new releases on Blu ray. Sony's Peter Dille said HD-DVD would be dead within months, while defending the already dead UMD movie format. Disney has said there is no format war outside of the United States.
Giving up on HD-DVD without a fight and adopting Blu ray would mean this type of marketing has been a success, and Sony will continue to introduce their own media and attempt to gain exclusive profits off what was once a cooperative effort involving many different manufacturers.
While I want this format war to end, this would be a disaster for both electronics companies and consumers. The pricing of Blu ray products compared to HD-DVD proves what Sony is after. If there was no competition, would Blu ray cost even more?
This statment by Don Elkund was nothing more than a PR effort to make Sony and Blu ray appear to be the "good guys." He knows it would be idiotic for Toshiba, Microsoft, or any others to give in.
Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. They can't do that when Chinese import DVD players are $20. Sony was not happy with their cut of DVD development and immediately started independent development on Blu ray.
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Re: Thinker (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» To Common Sense
"Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. "
And HD-DVD exists because Microsoft and Toshiba are good at heart? :)
Come on, you know as well as I do that both formats exist because there is money to be made, and lots of it.
While the BRA's tactics may not be strictly by the book, can you say with any amount of certainty that Microsoft and Toshiba have been quite ethical? Corporations lie, cheat and steal, and none more so in the technology world than Microsoft. Surely you are aware of Microsoft's adventures with Internet Explorer and SCO?
Anyway, that's not to say MS is any worse than Sony. Just that MS is not the whiter-than-white that you think it to be.
As for Don Elkund's statement, yeah, I agree, that was just PR hogwash.
"Like it or not Blu ray exists because Sony wants to make large profits on movie players again. "
And HD-DVD exists because Microsoft and Toshiba are good at heart? :)
Come on, you know as well as I do that both formats exist because there is money to be made, and lots of it.
While the BRA's tactics may not be strictly by the book, can you say with any amount of certainty that Microsoft and Toshiba have been quite ethical? Corporations lie, cheat and steal, and none more so in the technology world than Microsoft. Surely you are aware of Microsoft's adventures with Internet Explorer and SCO?
Anyway, that's not to say MS is any worse than Sony. Just that MS is not the whiter-than-white that you think it to be.
As for Don Elkund's statement, yeah, I agree, that was just PR hogwash.
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by jolly roger (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» 30gb?
30gb you say my hearties?, arrgh jim lad most movies are 4gb and with compression look as good as blu poo movies, avast yee swamp rats
30gb you say my hearties?, arrgh jim lad most movies are 4gb and with compression look as good as blu poo movies, avast yee swamp rats
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Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ..
Not true, HD movies look way better than DVD quality ~ with a 20 meg connection and a 500gig HD+, downloading HD movies won't be a problem. The Internet is evolving too fast for you Sony.. Give it a year and most service providers will be offering 10mg connections as a minimum..
Not true, HD movies look way better than DVD quality ~ with a 20 meg connection and a 500gig HD+, downloading HD movies won't be a problem. The Internet is evolving too fast for you Sony.. Give it a year and most service providers will be offering 10mg connections as a minimum..
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Re: justin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ^^^^^^^^^
what world do either of you live in where 4gb compressed movies look as good as full 1080p movies or everyone will have a 20 meg connection with half terabyte drives by next year? Be realistic and look at the common consumer.
what world do either of you live in where 4gb compressed movies look as good as full 1080p movies or everyone will have a 20 meg connection with half terabyte drives by next year? Be realistic and look at the common consumer.
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Re: molly roger (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» mate
Shut up, just, shut up.
Shut up, just, shut up.
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Re: Jesus Christ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to justin
Ummm what are you talking about?
First off you can download HD quality shows full seasons for like 8-10Gigs. Secondly, erm... fiber optics are getting ridiculously c heap, and only in America is this 5MB connection bull***** still ok. In europe and asia there are more than 100mbit connections, so get your facts straight. Secondly, in case you haven't realized, almost every internet provider is getting into fiber optics. Verizon fios currently has 15 megs and I believe a 30 meg connection is coming soon.
And it's not uncommon for people to have 200-400GB hard drives, they are incredibly inexpensive, and again with compression most movies are very low in size if you choose to watch them on your comp, and almost all fit on a regular sized DVD (unless they are uncompressed really really high quality).
Ummm what are you talking about?
First off you can download HD quality shows full seasons for like 8-10Gigs. Secondly, erm... fiber optics are getting ridiculously c heap, and only in America is this 5MB connection bull***** still ok. In europe and asia there are more than 100mbit connections, so get your facts straight. Secondly, in case you haven't realized, almost every internet provider is getting into fiber optics. Verizon fios currently has 15 megs and I believe a 30 meg connection is coming soon.
And it's not uncommon for people to have 200-400GB hard drives, they are incredibly inexpensive, and again with compression most movies are very low in size if you choose to watch them on your comp, and almost all fit on a regular sized DVD (unless they are uncompressed really really high quality).
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Re: rawr (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» skies
You people and your crazy internet. Australia's still leagues behind. The average person here only has a 512kbit connection and you get slowed down when you reach around 10gb. I on the other hand have a measly 8mbit connection that gets capped after 30 *****ing gbs. And that's for 80 dollars a month (65 for you americans). Ridiculously cheap my ass.
You people and your crazy internet. Australia's still leagues behind. The average person here only has a 512kbit connection and you get slowed down when you reach around 10gb. I on the other hand have a measly 8mbit connection that gets capped after 30 *****ing gbs. And that's for 80 dollars a month (65 for you americans). Ridiculously cheap my ass.
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Re: BJ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» orage bradband
next year orange broadband are hopin to get 100meg broadband. typein on google for an article bout it
next year orange broadband are hopin to get 100meg broadband. typein on google for an article bout it
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» @ BJ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And wot, 100mb internet is gna be mainstream instantly? lmao its gna instantly be a ripoff. No1 usually is bovered to switch isp.
And wot, 100mb internet is gna be mainstream instantly? lmao its gna instantly be a ripoff. No1 usually is bovered to switch isp.
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Re: justin (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» to Jesus Christ
I'm talking about common sense. Full seasons of shows at 8 - 10 gb do not look high def (trust me, i do it constantly). Buy a half decent large screen TV (in my case a 1080p plasma) and you'll see the difference very fast. BD and Divx/Xvid is hardly the same thing.
Second, broadband in the US is slow to upgrade speeds, no matter what Verizon might be saying about Fios. I live in a city for God's sakes and it still hasnt reachesd us, how long do you think it's going to take in the central US? Most people still arent on that wagon anyway...so your point is moot. The rest of the world might be, but the US is massively important in any marketing strategy due to it's size, disposable income, and buying power, don't kid yourself.
As for hard drives...yes, those sizes arent uncommon, but they arent exactly the norm for the casual pc user which is what makes up the bulk of computer users. People replace their PCs probably every 3 - 5 years realistically, so it's not like most people will go out and just buy new hard drives so they can download movies. Most people will still buy discs and pop them in a player. It's simpler and the market likes it that way.
I'm talking about common sense. Full seasons of shows at 8 - 10 gb do not look high def (trust me, i do it constantly). Buy a half decent large screen TV (in my case a 1080p plasma) and you'll see the difference very fast. BD and Divx/Xvid is hardly the same thing.
Second, broadband in the US is slow to upgrade speeds, no matter what Verizon might be saying about Fios. I live in a city for God's sakes and it still hasnt reachesd us, how long do you think it's going to take in the central US? Most people still arent on that wagon anyway...so your point is moot. The rest of the world might be, but the US is massively important in any marketing strategy due to it's size, disposable income, and buying power, don't kid yourself.
As for hard drives...yes, those sizes arent uncommon, but they arent exactly the norm for the casual pc user which is what makes up the bulk of computer users. People replace their PCs probably every 3 - 5 years realistically, so it's not like most people will go out and just buy new hard drives so they can download movies. Most people will still buy discs and pop them in a player. It's simpler and the market likes it that way.
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
4GB + 480
16GB + 480x4 + 1960 !
Ok so that was pointless, but
4GB is a DVD rip, lamely, and Blu-rays hold 50, theoretically 200GB. hmmm Big old expensive harddrive, or CDs? opion related, but everything is an arguement.
4GB + 480
16GB + 480x4 + 1960 !
Ok so that was pointless, but
4GB is a DVD rip, lamely, and Blu-rays hold 50, theoretically 200GB. hmmm Big old expensive harddrive, or CDs? opion related, but everything is an arguement.
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Re: FilthyFrenchman (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Are you kidding me?
I OWN EVERY SYSTEM......... stay in your 4GB with compression Wii type graphics. You have no clue. And WHEN you own a PS3 then you can talk.... because most people will.... i bet you still even have a ps2!!
I OWN EVERY SYSTEM......... stay in your 4GB with compression Wii type graphics. You have no clue. And WHEN you own a PS3 then you can talk.... because most people will.... i bet you still even have a ps2!!
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by more evidence that q.j. is biased (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» blu-ray camp desperate
Sony is really hurtin' right now. HD-DVD FTW! HD-DVD drives will be in PCs too and they are wrong -- people buy DVDs because they're cheap, not because they're expensive! Holy crapola.
Sony is really hurtin' right now. HD-DVD FTW! HD-DVD drives will be in PCs too and they are wrong -- people buy DVDs because they're cheap, not because they're expensive! Holy crapola.
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Re: ~ (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ~
guess that you didn't quite get the article now did you ?
guess that you didn't quite get the article now did you ?
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Re: na2rul - 2007-09-05 |
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» yeh lmao
hes dumb
hes dumb
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
LOL LOL LOL LOL FLAMING RETARD.
Kharma -1
Damnit!
Kharma -2
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LOL LOL LOL LOL FLAMING RETARD.
Kharma -1
Damnit!
Kharma -2
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Re: PS3 Fantard (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» sure...
The article said blu ray is better because it's more expensive. What an advantage!
The article said blu ray is better because it's more expensive. What an advantage!
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by V (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Same thing they always say
Qoute "We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Isnt that what they said about the PS3?? Yea that's why the Wii is kicking its ass...
Qoute "We believe consumers are smart enough to realize the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."
Isnt that what they said about the PS3?? Yea that's why the Wii is kicking its ass...
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Re: D: (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» :D
Shows how many retarded people there are.
*cracks up laughing*- look at the post above... still getting me.
Anyways, The Wii is how do you say... everyone's toy, the PS3 is ... gamer proficient.
Shows how many retarded people there are.
*cracks up laughing*- look at the post above... still getting me.
Anyways, The Wii is how do you say... everyone's toy, the PS3 is ... gamer proficient.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» who cares
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
well to be honest, i havent even turned my ps3 on in well over a month. there are far too many good games for 360 out now for me to be concerned about one good game for ps3 which is why i wont be getting HS or Lair, so am i still in denial? or maybe im just not limited to having to wait for a "good" game to come out to get my gaming on. that sounds more plausable to me.
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Re: meh (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» ..
No, it means you're an idiot. Go help cure cancer. Do some folding.
Admitedly there aren't many good games for PS3 at this time, but it's begun. Haven't been off Warhawk much lately. Not to mention *again* that despite the lack of games, PS3 sales are still very comparable to 360 sales over the same period of time.
No, it means you're an idiot. Go help cure cancer. Do some folding.
Admitedly there aren't many good games for PS3 at this time, but it's begun. Haven't been off Warhawk much lately. Not to mention *again* that despite the lack of games, PS3 sales are still very comparable to 360 sales over the same period of time.
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Re: Azure (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» wow
Do u even own a PS3 AoxomamoxoA... Or are u just wishing u did...
Do u even own a PS3 AoxomamoxoA... Or are u just wishing u did...
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Re: ..... (Unregistered) - 2007-09-06 |
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» ....
no your all wrong those 10/10 for heavenly sword are for the movie part, oh i forgot thats basically the whole thing, ahh 6 hours of gameplay thats horrible. u must have been cnfused
no your all wrong those 10/10 for heavenly sword are for the movie part, oh i forgot thats basically the whole thing, ahh 6 hours of gameplay thats horrible. u must have been cnfused
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by kaka (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» desperation on the blue ray camp..
Looks to me as though blue ray camp are sooo very desperate.
Looks to me as though blue ray camp are sooo very desperate.
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Re: tom (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» What?
Did you even read the article, they're not asking for help.
Did you even read the article, they're not asking for help.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-09-05 |
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» yep
sony in general are desperate. poor ps3 sales, horrible reviews for most of the games, and now this. anyone who thinks sony is on the up and not the down are in some serious denial.
sony in general are desperate. poor ps3 sales, horrible reviews for most of the games, and now this. anyone who thinks sony is on the up and not the down are in some serious denial.
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Re: googlie doodily (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» people lest donate money to sony!
We should donate money to blue ray and ps3 so that they can continue fighting the inevitable winners that are microsoft, toshiba and there partners in crime. Come on people be a wonderfull human being and donate to the suffering of the sony cause.
We should donate money to blue ray and ps3 so that they can continue fighting the inevitable winners that are microsoft, toshiba and there partners in crime. Come on people be a wonderfull human being and donate to the suffering of the sony cause.
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Re: . (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» .
they're not asking they're begging
they're not asking they're begging
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Re: Vsions (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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» Im confused
Last I checked Blu-ray is significantly out pacing HDdvd so how exactly is Sony desperate?
Also AoxomamoxoA how can you explain the fact tat PS3 is selling way better than the 360 during this stage of its life, while being both more expensive and having to other systems to compete against. The first year release games for the ps3 destroy the first year release games for the 360. and Sony has some of the highest rated games in its launch year than any of the other two systems. Wait maybe Im not confused, maybe your confused.
Last I checked Blu-ray is significantly out pacing HDdvd so how exactly is Sony desperate?
Also AoxomamoxoA how can you explain the fact tat PS3 is selling way better than the 360 during this stage of its life, while being both more expensive and having to other systems to compete against. The first year release games for the ps3 destroy the first year release games for the 360. and Sony has some of the highest rated games in its launch year than any of the other two systems. Wait maybe Im not confused, maybe your confused.
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Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-09-05 |
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