Posted Apr 04, 2007 at 05:47PM by Ian C.
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We passionately believe that online gaming, and having an identity within the online gaming community, is what's core to what you need to offer - a service that can transcend different titles where you can communicate with your gaming friends no matter what platform you're on and what game you're playing. I don't see how Sony can really deliver that, and they're certainly not delivering that in a compelling way today. ...I think what Sony's talking about has compelling aspects to it, but I don't think there's anything there that... We're going to be afraid of competing with, because we will certainly evolve our service as we move forward. People that are thinking about a PS3 or a Wii, I would just say, look at what you're buying, and what do you want to buy? Do you want to buy a gaming machine that offers you the best high definition gaming, and online gaming, for the best possible price? ...If those are the questions in your head, I really can't see why anyone would choose anything but the Xbox 360. Quite simply, if you want the best gaming experience, if you want the best output in terms of high definition, if you want the best connectivity, then you need look no further than a PlayStation 3. Simple as that. |
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by NightVortex (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» An interesting fight
I say Microsoft handled it a lot better, although I like the last comment Neil made.
I say Microsoft handled it a lot better, although I like the last comment Neil made.
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Re: damonous - 2007-04-04 |
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» High-def downloads - oh, yeah scrap the discs now
I really tire of Microsoft's constant poo-poo of the importance of the BluRay drive in PS3. High-def movie downloads in a couple of years. Right. I want to download 30-50gbs of data so that I can keep giving Microsoft a rental fee for a movie for the evening to fill their coffers even higher. And no--I don't want my high-def movie in crappy WMV over-compression. That's NOT high-def, that's phony MS compromise. Just like 360. Compromise. And, the whole online comparison is ridiculous (I have both systems). Free PS3 online vs $50-yearly 360 fee for a lousy xBox Live interface? The only thing better about Live right now is the size of their hot air over their service.
I really tire of Microsoft's constant poo-poo of the importance of the BluRay drive in PS3. High-def movie downloads in a couple of years. Right. I want to download 30-50gbs of data so that I can keep giving Microsoft a rental fee for a movie for the evening to fill their coffers even higher. And no--I don't want my high-def movie in crappy WMV over-compression. That's NOT high-def, that's phony MS compromise. Just like 360. Compromise. And, the whole online comparison is ridiculous (I have both systems). Free PS3 online vs $50-yearly 360 fee for a lousy xBox Live interface? The only thing better about Live right now is the size of their hot air over their service.
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Re: Extinction (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» Downloads...
I agree damanous, the downloads are too huge, plus it depends on the user to have a huge harddrive too.
I agree damanous, the downloads are too huge, plus it depends on the user to have a huge harddrive too.
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by highps3 - 2007-04-04 |
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» Cheese taste good in the morning but this is just beef.
Ya know, back when people used to talk about games it was a lot funner.
What character you were going to be, what level you were on, how many headshots you got....
Now its about NPD and chart track and peoples opinions on hardware thats already getting stomped by PC video cards alone. Face it the consoles are the same, they have different games and do different things.
Anyway I like SPORKS.
Ya know, back when people used to talk about games it was a lot funner.
What character you were going to be, what level you were on, how many headshots you got....
Now its about NPD and chart track and peoples opinions on hardware thats already getting stomped by PC video cards alone. Face it the consoles are the same, they have different games and do different things.
Anyway I like SPORKS.
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by Kutibh (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» About Blu-ray
If Microsoft is so confident that HD Media (Blu-ray/HD DVD) will be outdated in 3 years due to HD downloads then why were they so eager to invest in HD DVD???
If Microsoft is so confident that HD Media (Blu-ray/HD DVD) will be outdated in 3 years due to HD downloads then why were they so eager to invest in HD DVD???
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Re: the cheif (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» true
but instead of completely relying on it, they gave us the choice and if it does fail, they just discontinue the add on. I don't believe hd downloads are going to be the way though.
but instead of completely relying on it, they gave us the choice and if it does fail, they just discontinue the add on. I don't believe hd downloads are going to be the way though.
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Re: ContrAss - 2007-04-04 |
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» is it a choice?
since when is releasing a 200 dollar add-on then dropping it a good idea? And no it wasn't easy just add an HD-DVD drive to the 360; a group of programmers busted their ass to bring you a functional device.
Personally, Microsoft looked better before they announced the "elite" 360, now it definitely looks like Microsoft is playing ketch up.
since when is releasing a 200 dollar add-on then dropping it a good idea? And no it wasn't easy just add an HD-DVD drive to the 360; a group of programmers busted their ass to bring you a functional device.
Personally, Microsoft looked better before they announced the "elite" 360, now it definitely looks like Microsoft is playing ketch up.
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Re: luke (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» i beg to differ
after gettin my nice 52" hd tv. i went about downloading hd dvds, which after 5 films didnt even take a week pluss that internet speed are getting faster and HDD are gettin bigger i dont see why we all wouldnt be downloading. remember 56K.... over an hr just got a song lol
HD will take over dvd for sure.. people want to see a better higher quality picture.
after gettin my nice 52" hd tv. i went about downloading hd dvds, which after 5 films didnt even take a week pluss that internet speed are getting faster and HDD are gettin bigger i dont see why we all wouldnt be downloading. remember 56K.... over an hr just got a song lol
HD will take over dvd for sure.. people want to see a better higher quality picture.
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by Quixand - 2007-04-04 |
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» I must say...
XBox fanboys takes after Neil Thompson... talks a lot.
XBox fanboys takes after Neil Thompson... talks a lot.
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Re: and (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» and
ps3 fanboys take after this douche...nothing to talk about and can't explain themselves.
ps3 fanboys take after this douche...nothing to talk about and can't explain themselves.
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by Quixand (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» PS3 - X360 - Undisputed Super List
The following list contains 15 games which are undisputably best in the graphics department. If you accidentally buy new games which are not on this list, just throw them in the garbage can.
By the way, this list only has those games of which ‘actual play footages’ have been released. When you judge a game, you must watch the ‘actual play footage’ to do so. Don’t even watch ‘actual play screenshots (still pictures)’ released by the developers. When the developers release the ‘actual play screenshots’, they set all the graphics settings super-max (highest) then capture the images (in this situation, the game runs at extremely poor frame rate such as 2 frames per second – simply unplayable); therefore, usually, the screenshots which are available online look super-fantastic when the final (retail) version of the game doesn’t even look similar (always, retail version of a console game only has medium-decent graphics quality to maintain smooth and playable frame rate). That’s why the screenshots available at GameSpot, IGN or all other sites are purely garbage (almost fake).
The following 15 games are undisputable.
Crysis
Gears of War
Motorstorm
Ratchet & Clank Future: ToD
Bioshock
Army of Two
Grand Theft Auto 4
Forza Motorsport 2
Resistance: FoM
Devil May Cry 4
Spore
Project Offset
Warhawk
Unreal Tournament 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
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Battlefield: Bad Company
Time0
Age of Conan: HA
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead Rising
Monster Kingdom: UR
Dark Sector
Fatal Inertia
Enemy Territory: QW
Formula One
Heavenly Swords
Gran Turismo HD
Stranglehold
Mobile Suit Gundam Musou
GRAW 2
World in Conflict
Cell Factor
Halo 3
Lost Planet
Call of Duty 3
Burnout Revenge
Command & Conquer 3
Fable 2
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Lair
LittleBigPlanet
Fifth Phantom Saga (Cancelled)
Prey
Alan Wake
WWE 2008
Quake 4
FEAR
Timeshift
Gods and Heroes: RR
The Crossing
Half Life 2: Ep 2
Overlord
StarCraft Ghost (Cancelled)
WoW: BC
The Wall
WarCraft 3: TFT
Supreme Commander
Tabula Rasa
Titan Quest: IT
Kameo: EoP
Assassin's Creed
Mass Effect
The Elder Scrolls 4: Shivering Isles
Colin McRae Dirt
Brothers in Arms: HH
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Huxley
Black
Tekken 6
God of War 2
The Legend of Zelda: TP
The following list contains 15 games which are undisputably best in the graphics department. If you accidentally buy new games which are not on this list, just throw them in the garbage can.
By the way, this list only has those games of which ‘actual play footages’ have been released. When you judge a game, you must watch the ‘actual play footage’ to do so. Don’t even watch ‘actual play screenshots (still pictures)’ released by the developers. When the developers release the ‘actual play screenshots’, they set all the graphics settings super-max (highest) then capture the images (in this situation, the game runs at extremely poor frame rate such as 2 frames per second – simply unplayable); therefore, usually, the screenshots which are available online look super-fantastic when the final (retail) version of the game doesn’t even look similar (always, retail version of a console game only has medium-decent graphics quality to maintain smooth and playable frame rate). That’s why the screenshots available at GameSpot, IGN or all other sites are purely garbage (almost fake).
The following 15 games are undisputable.
Crysis
Gears of War
Motorstorm
Ratchet & Clank Future: ToD
Bioshock
Army of Two
Grand Theft Auto 4
Forza Motorsport 2
Resistance: FoM
Devil May Cry 4
Spore
Project Offset
Warhawk
Unreal Tournament 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
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Battlefield: Bad Company
Time0
Age of Conan: HA
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead Rising
Monster Kingdom: UR
Dark Sector
Fatal Inertia
Enemy Territory: QW
Formula One
Heavenly Swords
Gran Turismo HD
Stranglehold
Mobile Suit Gundam Musou
GRAW 2
World in Conflict
Cell Factor
Halo 3
Lost Planet
Call of Duty 3
Burnout Revenge
Command & Conquer 3
Fable 2
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Lair
LittleBigPlanet
Fifth Phantom Saga (Cancelled)
Prey
Alan Wake
WWE 2008
Quake 4
FEAR
Timeshift
Gods and Heroes: RR
The Crossing
Half Life 2: Ep 2
Overlord
StarCraft Ghost (Cancelled)
WoW: BC
The Wall
WarCraft 3: TFT
Supreme Commander
Tabula Rasa
Titan Quest: IT
Kameo: EoP
Assassin's Creed
Mass Effect
The Elder Scrolls 4: Shivering Isles
Colin McRae Dirt
Brothers in Arms: HH
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Huxley
Black
Tekken 6
God of War 2
The Legend of Zelda: TP
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Re: Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-04-06 |
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» What?
You didn't add the HD-DVD drive in this price comparison? Didn't sony say it was "required" in one of their price comparisons? (They actually got sued by MS for that one.)
All you need is the Elite, (if you want HDMI and 120gb HDD) and $50 one year XBOX 360 membership. They also come with free 1 month. Rechargable controllers? The controller uses regular AAs, and you can use rechargeable AAs you may already have.
Wireless is NOT needed, and I actually prefer wired because I don't need a wireless router and the connection is a couple nanoseconds faster. I even prefer a wired controller when playing online becuse it also seems a few nanoseconds faster.
You didn't add the HD-DVD drive in this price comparison? Didn't sony say it was "required" in one of their price comparisons? (They actually got sued by MS for that one.)
All you need is the Elite, (if you want HDMI and 120gb HDD) and $50 one year XBOX 360 membership. They also come with free 1 month. Rechargable controllers? The controller uses regular AAs, and you can use rechargeable AAs you may already have.
Wireless is NOT needed, and I actually prefer wired because I don't need a wireless router and the connection is a couple nanoseconds faster. I even prefer a wired controller when playing online becuse it also seems a few nanoseconds faster.
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by Jin Wu - 2007-04-04 |
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» The Only Question I Have Is
How long are they going to keep charging for Xbox Live? Whether you think Home is better or not, how can MS keep charging for Live in the face of Sony offering Home for free?
How long are they going to keep charging for Xbox Live? Whether you think Home is better or not, how can MS keep charging for Live in the face of Sony offering Home for free?
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Re: . (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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Because the free service is crap. I prefer to pay for 1st party support, then for 3rd party support. It's the same reason 360 games have online support, and PS3 games get it cut.
Because the free service is crap. I prefer to pay for 1st party support, then for 3rd party support. It's the same reason 360 games have online support, and PS3 games get it cut.
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Re: Nerd (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» .
..not all ps3 games get online cut - and actually..the experience playing online is EXACTLY the same as live..just as you would experience the same playing the game online on he pc...there can be no difference (except crap servers with lag) and there are no crap servers on live or the PSN. the only thing live has over psn is media downloads...and i can get the stuff on offer from live using the internet on me pc..except demos of course.
the ps3 games which dont have online is down to idiot devs - virtua tennis for both the consoles had two different devs..the ps3 devs just didnt decide to focus on the online..extremly stupid.
this comment is really stupid from the MS guy: 'a really big machine compared to ours'
anyone who hasa ps3 and 360 sitting next to each other should agree that the ps3 really isnt much bigger - and for those that really think its huge..just take a minute to think - the ps3 has an internal HDD and the powersupply is internal.
..not all ps3 games get online cut - and actually..the experience playing online is EXACTLY the same as live..just as you would experience the same playing the game online on he pc...there can be no difference (except crap servers with lag) and there are no crap servers on live or the PSN. the only thing live has over psn is media downloads...and i can get the stuff on offer from live using the internet on me pc..except demos of course.
the ps3 games which dont have online is down to idiot devs - virtua tennis for both the consoles had two different devs..the ps3 devs just didnt decide to focus on the online..extremly stupid.
this comment is really stupid from the MS guy: 'a really big machine compared to ours'
anyone who hasa ps3 and 360 sitting next to each other should agree that the ps3 really isnt much bigger - and for those that really think its huge..just take a minute to think - the ps3 has an internal HDD and the powersupply is internal.
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Re: Matt (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» Whats up with achievments!@
They're good for pretty much nothing yet thats something that people claim PS3 is missing. Oh yeah I forgot you all like to brag about how good you are in a video game. Get a life!
They're good for pretty much nothing yet thats something that people claim PS3 is missing. Oh yeah I forgot you all like to brag about how good you are in a video game. Get a life!
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Re: Snaku (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» Darn skippy
I can't for the life of me comprehend all the hullabaloo about acheivments. I don't give a rat's .... about how many hours you've wasted unlocking useless points. In fact, I would almost respect the people with fewer points more. Obviously they've got something better to do once in a while. Maybe I'm strange in this regard, but I'm usually embarassed to admit how much time I spend playing games.
Don't really care about PS3's home either. Not gonna' wanna' look at other people's trophy rooms any more than I wanna' look at other people's achievment scores.
I can't for the life of me comprehend all the hullabaloo about acheivments. I don't give a rat's .... about how many hours you've wasted unlocking useless points. In fact, I would almost respect the people with fewer points more. Obviously they've got something better to do once in a while. Maybe I'm strange in this regard, but I'm usually embarassed to admit how much time I spend playing games.
Don't really care about PS3's home either. Not gonna' wanna' look at other people's trophy rooms any more than I wanna' look at other people's achievment scores.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-04-05 |
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» Wu are wrong
$50 a year isn't that much, and it's worth it for the advantages it offers. It's only $4.17 a month. By paying for online you get:
1. More online capable games. Publishers aren't required to support the network with their money. This also helps online games to get cheaper sooner.
2. Even older games can still be played online because the servers don't get shut down after use is down or the publisher no longer wants to pay for it.
3. Advertising is rarely used with a paid service.
4. Money is always coming in for server upgrades and improvments. No tricky marketing to get you to buy extra stuff is needed.
5. Microtransactions are not necessary to pay for it. You're not pressured into buying virtual crap like with playstation home.
6. Decent tech support. With a free service, if there's problems there's little you can do about it. I don't know if PSN has a hotline, but I'm sure they're less than egar to get your problem resolved quickly.
XBOX live has always been a paid service, and that will probably not change. It's the reason the XBOX's online has so much more to offer, and I think it's easily worth 14 cents a day.
$50 a year isn't that much, and it's worth it for the advantages it offers. It's only $4.17 a month. By paying for online you get:
1. More online capable games. Publishers aren't required to support the network with their money. This also helps online games to get cheaper sooner.
2. Even older games can still be played online because the servers don't get shut down after use is down or the publisher no longer wants to pay for it.
3. Advertising is rarely used with a paid service.
4. Money is always coming in for server upgrades and improvments. No tricky marketing to get you to buy extra stuff is needed.
5. Microtransactions are not necessary to pay for it. You're not pressured into buying virtual crap like with playstation home.
6. Decent tech support. With a free service, if there's problems there's little you can do about it. I don't know if PSN has a hotline, but I'm sure they're less than egar to get your problem resolved quickly.
XBOX live has always been a paid service, and that will probably not change. It's the reason the XBOX's online has so much more to offer, and I think it's easily worth 14 cents a day.
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Re: Oner001 - 2007-04-05 |
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» ...
So to bring up a prior discussion from you, how can you say the 360 elite is a better (less costly) deal?
$479 Elite
$75 Live first year
$50 Each additional year (lets say 4 years $200)
$100 MS WiFi
$$$ Rechargable controllers
Seems like it all adds up to me.....
So to bring up a prior discussion from you, how can you say the 360 elite is a better (less costly) deal?
$479 Elite
$75 Live first year
$50 Each additional year (lets say 4 years $200)
$100 MS WiFi
$$$ Rechargable controllers
Seems like it all adds up to me.....
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by Quixand - 2007-04-04 |
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» hey kid
get ur own name!!
get ur own name!!
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Re: Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-04-06 |
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» To Oner001
Re: Mr. Common Sense - 1 min ago [I like this comment] [I dislike this comment]
» What?
You didn't add the HD-DVD drive in this price comparison? Didn't sony say it was "required" in one of their price comparisons? (They actually got sued by MS for that one.) All you need is the Elite, (if you want HDMI and 120gb HDD) and $50 one year XBOX 360 membership. They also come with free 1 month. Rechargable controllers? The controller uses regular AAs, and you can use rechargeable AAs you may already have. Wireless is NOT needed, and I actually prefer wired because I don't need a wireless router and the connection is a couple nanoseconds faster. I even prefer a wired controller when playing online becuse it also seems a few nanoseconds faster.
Re: Mr. Common Sense - 1 min ago [I like this comment] [I dislike this comment]
» What?
You didn't add the HD-DVD drive in this price comparison? Didn't sony say it was "required" in one of their price comparisons? (They actually got sued by MS for that one.) All you need is the Elite, (if you want HDMI and 120gb HDD) and $50 one year XBOX 360 membership. They also come with free 1 month. Rechargable controllers? The controller uses regular AAs, and you can use rechargeable AAs you may already have. Wireless is NOT needed, and I actually prefer wired because I don't need a wireless router and the connection is a couple nanoseconds faster. I even prefer a wired controller when playing online becuse it also seems a few nanoseconds faster.
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by hhahaahahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» we all know it . . .
the 360 is the dreamcast of this generation.
the 360 is the dreamcast of this generation.
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-04-04 |
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» You Read My Mind
It deja vu all over again. No dought.
It deja vu all over again. No dought.
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Re: mavrikcorvette (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» It's more like...
Really? I think it's more like the Saturn.
Really? I think it's more like the Saturn.
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Re: Datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» good point mavrikcorvette
You may be right, M$ has too much money to just let the system die. Sega ditched the Dreamcast so they could make money off all their first party games. But when Saturn was out they would not let it die they kept it going, like M$ would if 360 sales tank. Besides with the number of consoles sold M$ is not going to give up on the 360 in a year.
You may be right, M$ has too much money to just let the system die. Sega ditched the Dreamcast so they could make money off all their first party games. But when Saturn was out they would not let it die they kept it going, like M$ would if 360 sales tank. Besides with the number of consoles sold M$ is not going to give up on the 360 in a year.
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by wow (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» wow
the 360 is like the dreamcast?
I would say the ps3 is.
the ps3 is over priced..crappy games...crappy support...crappy online...and way behind the competition both the 360 AND the wii is selling better then it is.
if was beating wii then i'd be impressed.
sorry sony fanboys.
just because they say their "online" is free with only a couple of games for support doesn't make it better.
just because there is no choice of whether you want blu-ray or not...doesn't make it better.
THINK for yourselves!
the 360 is like the dreamcast?
I would say the ps3 is.
the ps3 is over priced..crappy games...crappy support...crappy online...and way behind the competition both the 360 AND the wii is selling better then it is.
if was beating wii then i'd be impressed.
sorry sony fanboys.
just because they say their "online" is free with only a couple of games for support doesn't make it better.
just because there is no choice of whether you want blu-ray or not...doesn't make it better.
THINK for yourselves!
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Re: dam6655 (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» not exactly
Ps3 is sell much better worldwide then the 360. The only place it is selling well is in North America and it is only about 100,000 more then the ps3 a month, and that will change
Ps3 is sell much better worldwide then the 360. The only place it is selling well is in North America and it is only about 100,000 more then the ps3 a month, and that will change
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Re: Oner001 - 2007-04-05 |
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» ...
Great point I guess "wow" doesn't want to (more likely purposely) discuss about the abysmal sales of the 360 in Japan.....
Great point I guess "wow" doesn't want to (more likely purposely) discuss about the abysmal sales of the 360 in Japan.....
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by wow (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» wow
the 360 is like the dreamcast?
I would say the ps3 is.
the ps3 is over priced..crappy games...crappy support...crappy online...and way behind the competition both the 360 AND the wii is selling better then it is.
if was beating wii then i'd be impressed.
sorry sony fanboys.
just because they say their "online" is free with only a couple of games for support doesn't make it better.
just because there is no choice of whether you want blu-ray or not...doesn't make it better.
THINK for yourselves!
the 360 is like the dreamcast?
I would say the ps3 is.
the ps3 is over priced..crappy games...crappy support...crappy online...and way behind the competition both the 360 AND the wii is selling better then it is.
if was beating wii then i'd be impressed.
sorry sony fanboys.
just because they say their "online" is free with only a couple of games for support doesn't make it better.
just because there is no choice of whether you want blu-ray or not...doesn't make it better.
THINK for yourselves!
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by Quixand - 2007-04-04 |
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» right on the head dam6655
and if u see the reports for the sales numbers in australia... that 100,000 figure is the TOTAL console sale of Microsoft's XBOx 360 in OZ for the first SEVEN MONTHS!!! while the PS3 is at 27,000 for the first TEN DAYS!!!! i just mentioned that cause it's the most recent figures that QJ has posted.
i know this means little in the complete scheme of things but the "Next Gen" doesn't last for just a year... it goes on... and i'm confident in backing up the PS3 in this race.
i just shake my head whenever an XBox fan try to argue using TOTAL sales figures when they've got a year headstart... but you can't blame them cxause those are the numbers that works for them...
and if u see the reports for the sales numbers in australia... that 100,000 figure is the TOTAL console sale of Microsoft's XBOx 360 in OZ for the first SEVEN MONTHS!!! while the PS3 is at 27,000 for the first TEN DAYS!!!! i just mentioned that cause it's the most recent figures that QJ has posted.
i know this means little in the complete scheme of things but the "Next Gen" doesn't last for just a year... it goes on... and i'm confident in backing up the PS3 in this race.
i just shake my head whenever an XBox fan try to argue using TOTAL sales figures when they've got a year headstart... but you can't blame them cxause those are the numbers that works for them...
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» and
wow....27k is such a large number.
I don't get you sony fanboys...you love a console with no games...
wow....27k is such a large number.
I don't get you sony fanboys...you love a console with no games...
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-04-05 |
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» It's not a direct number comparison
It's going to be at least 7 months before a decent PS3 exclusive game comes out, so I wouldn't expect the PS3 to exceed 100,000 sales by then. The XBOX 360 had massive shortages around launch so that's something else to take into account.
Like "and" said, unless people like buying a console with no games, PS3 will still be behind in sales after launch, nevermind the XBOX 360's one year lead.
It's going to be at least 7 months before a decent PS3 exclusive game comes out, so I wouldn't expect the PS3 to exceed 100,000 sales by then. The XBOX 360 had massive shortages around launch so that's something else to take into account.
Like "and" said, unless people like buying a console with no games, PS3 will still be behind in sales after launch, nevermind the XBOX 360's one year lead.
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So how is it not "Fanboy" to totally DISMISS the sales of the 360 in Japan and OZ? Hhhmmm seems a bit hypocritical to me.....
A DIRECT NUMBER COMPARISON IS ALL XBOX FANBOYS TALK ABOUT....so when the numbers DON'T fall in YOUR favor THEN you want to say it doesn't matter....I see how it works. This is just too easy.
So how is it not "Fanboy" to totally DISMISS the sales of the 360 in Japan and OZ? Hhhmmm seems a bit hypocritical to me.....
A DIRECT NUMBER COMPARISON IS ALL XBOX FANBOYS TALK ABOUT....so when the numbers DON'T fall in YOUR favor THEN you want to say it doesn't matter....I see how it works. This is just too easy.
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by LiquidZ3r0 (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» hm
apparently this WOW guy cant THINK for HIMSELF since M$ is having him post the same exact thing
apparently this WOW guy cant THINK for HIMSELF since M$ is having him post the same exact thing
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by LiquidZ3r0 (Unregistered) - 2007-04-04 |
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» hm
apparently this WOW guy cant THINK for HIMSELF since M$ is having him post the same exact thing
apparently this WOW guy cant THINK for HIMSELF since M$ is having him post the same exact thing
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Re: wow (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» wow
and apparently this liquidzero loser dude...can't think for himself as he won't talk about the things I talked about.
explain how the ps3 is better with FAR less games then the 360?
I mean cmon! this gen the 360 has 27! count them! 27 RPGs then gen. The ps3? 20(and most of them are already on the 360 oblivion, enchanted arms etc!)
face it. Sony is so far losing the war.
MGS4 and FF is not worth 600$.
Blue Dragon, Lost oddyssey, DMC, Lost Planet, Dead rising, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Assassin's Creed is worth 400$.
Sony needs to pick up the pace damnit. No i'm not a fanboy. I loved the ps2...but god damn..what is happening to sony!
and apparently this liquidzero loser dude...can't think for himself as he won't talk about the things I talked about.
explain how the ps3 is better with FAR less games then the 360?
I mean cmon! this gen the 360 has 27! count them! 27 RPGs then gen. The ps3? 20(and most of them are already on the 360 oblivion, enchanted arms etc!)
face it. Sony is so far losing the war.
MGS4 and FF is not worth 600$.
Blue Dragon, Lost oddyssey, DMC, Lost Planet, Dead rising, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Assassin's Creed is worth 400$.
Sony needs to pick up the pace damnit. No i'm not a fanboy. I loved the ps2...but god damn..what is happening to sony!
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Re: Datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» PS3>360
MGS4, free online, memory card reader, built-in wi-fi, web browser, plays ps2 games, duel-boot, uses any bluetooth headset, RFOM, Blu-ray, uses hdd that dosen't cost out the ass. DMC and Assassin's Creed are coming out on PS3 too, you forgot to list them, problem is the games you listed are not worth $400.
MGS4, free online, memory card reader, built-in wi-fi, web browser, plays ps2 games, duel-boot, uses any bluetooth headset, RFOM, Blu-ray, uses hdd that dosen't cost out the ass. DMC and Assassin's Creed are coming out on PS3 too, you forgot to list them, problem is the games you listed are not worth $400.
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by Noin (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» ....
"a really big machine compared to ours"
Well *****a what? IT HAS THE PSU BUILT IN *****.
"Quite simply, if you want the best gaming experience, if you want the best output in terms of high definition, if you want the best connectivity, then you need look no further than a PlayStation 3. Simple as that."
Pwnd.
"a really big machine compared to ours"
Well *****a what? IT HAS THE PSU BUILT IN *****.
"Quite simply, if you want the best gaming experience, if you want the best output in terms of high definition, if you want the best connectivity, then you need look no further than a PlayStation 3. Simple as that."
Pwnd.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-04-05 |
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Having a seperate power supply is a better design because it reduces heat near the CPU and GPU. All consoles used to have seperate power supplies.
Having a seperate power supply is a better design because it reduces heat near the CPU and GPU. All consoles used to have seperate power supplies.
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So why do SOOO MANY 360 burnout and fail still?..... This is just too easy.
So why do SOOO MANY 360 burnout and fail still?..... This is just too easy.
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by Duffy (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» c
Your all stupid.
Ignorance is bliss.
Your all stupid.
Ignorance is bliss.
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by Dang (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» wow is right
The PS3 is definetly the Dreamcast of this generation.
PS3 = what? 3 million at most
Wii = hmm...close to 6 or 7 million
Xbox360 = is probably close to 13 million by now.
Look at the service of the 360, we are about to get another big upgrade to the already excellent service, and we will have one more before the year is over.
Dont forget about Halo3 the biggest game of all time, just because you dont like it doesnt mean that 20 million other people dont like it either.
You'd think that people who have lived life for at least 16 years could see that supporting a console that is doomed to fail will suck it up, grow up, and choose a side that has a lot of support, people, games and entertainment. NOW THATS SIMPLE.
The PS3 is definetly the Dreamcast of this generation.
PS3 = what? 3 million at most
Wii = hmm...close to 6 or 7 million
Xbox360 = is probably close to 13 million by now.
Look at the service of the 360, we are about to get another big upgrade to the already excellent service, and we will have one more before the year is over.
Dont forget about Halo3 the biggest game of all time, just because you dont like it doesnt mean that 20 million other people dont like it either.
You'd think that people who have lived life for at least 16 years could see that supporting a console that is doomed to fail will suck it up, grow up, and choose a side that has a lot of support, people, games and entertainment. NOW THATS SIMPLE.
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Re: Oner001 - 2007-04-05 |
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» This is too easy
I love how you add about 4 million to the 360...
http://www.vgchartz.com/
How do you think the 360 will fair in the long run in OZ and Japan? Don't you think that will effect them somehow? Probably not since you only play #'s....so what about the PS2 STILL outselling the 360? This is too easy
I love how you add about 4 million to the 360...
http://www.vgchartz.com/
How do you think the 360 will fair in the long run in OZ and Japan? Don't you think that will effect them somehow? Probably not since you only play #'s....so what about the PS2 STILL outselling the 360? This is too easy
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by tyu (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» PS3 sales drop by 82%
Look at the latest nes the PS3 has dropped 82% in sales its failing, BTW just got Guitar Hero for the 360 its amazing..
Look at the latest nes the PS3 has dropped 82% in sales its failing, BTW just got Guitar Hero for the 360 its amazing..
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Re: Oner001 - 2007-04-05 |
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» This is too easy
Nice way to interpret something that means nothing. Here's a hint
EVER CONSOLE SALES DROP AFTER THE LAUNCH
Nice way to interpret something that means nothing. Here's a hint
EVER CONSOLE SALES DROP AFTER THE LAUNCH
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by Voice of Reason (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» Some many changes, so little time...
You know, XBOTS are by far the WORST fanboys i've come across. Most of them if not all used to own a PS2 and/or still do,yet they want to talk crap about Sony after the company provided them with years of great gaming. Hypocrites!
What does the 360 have to offer over the PS3? Nothing!
Games? What a bunch of shallow first person shooters? No thanks. What i find more interesting is how much the 360 has changed since launch, ONLY A YEAR AGO!!! 360 Elite? What's the matter M$? I thought you deemed HDMI not necessary? Why is it that you release a new system with the very feature you disregarded as the main feature? Sure lets slap a 120 HD in there to take away from the focus from our failure!
In all reality, 360 is NOT next gen, microsoft is telling you this themselves, the only next gen feature it had was graphical power. So in a sense the 360 is not the Dreamcast of our generation, Its more like the Genesis, anyone remember SegaCD, 32X? All add ons to try to bring the system up to speed and what happened? FAILED!
All the 360 wants to do now is try to catch up in technology with Sony, sure they may have the "Games" now but wait until developers start asking for more power and space, guess who they're going to turn to?
Someone above said ignorance is bliss...well patience is a virtue, watch it pay off for the PS3 in the long run.
You know, XBOTS are by far the WORST fanboys i've come across. Most of them if not all used to own a PS2 and/or still do,yet they want to talk crap about Sony after the company provided them with years of great gaming. Hypocrites!
What does the 360 have to offer over the PS3? Nothing!
Games? What a bunch of shallow first person shooters? No thanks. What i find more interesting is how much the 360 has changed since launch, ONLY A YEAR AGO!!! 360 Elite? What's the matter M$? I thought you deemed HDMI not necessary? Why is it that you release a new system with the very feature you disregarded as the main feature? Sure lets slap a 120 HD in there to take away from the focus from our failure!
In all reality, 360 is NOT next gen, microsoft is telling you this themselves, the only next gen feature it had was graphical power. So in a sense the 360 is not the Dreamcast of our generation, Its more like the Genesis, anyone remember SegaCD, 32X? All add ons to try to bring the system up to speed and what happened? FAILED!
All the 360 wants to do now is try to catch up in technology with Sony, sure they may have the "Games" now but wait until developers start asking for more power and space, guess who they're going to turn to?
Someone above said ignorance is bliss...well patience is a virtue, watch it pay off for the PS3 in the long run.
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Re: sickbrewow (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» wow
impressive i might have to copy paste this and post it around.
impressive i might have to copy paste this and post it around.
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Nice post.
Nice post.
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by Voice of Reason (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» Oh and by the way...
To further prove my point, where do you think all these games you're playing on your 360 originated or took off from? That's right...a PS2...the very systems you started bashing as soon as you got your hands on an Xbox but also the same system that had you playing, Devil May Cry, GTA III and sequels, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and so on for hours on end. So before you go bashing think back to who made these things possible, Sony. I'm not telling you to go out and buy a PS3 or to like the company, but at least have the respect to give them the benefit of doubt.
To further prove my point, where do you think all these games you're playing on your 360 originated or took off from? That's right...a PS2...the very systems you started bashing as soon as you got your hands on an Xbox but also the same system that had you playing, Devil May Cry, GTA III and sequels, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and so on for hours on end. So before you go bashing think back to who made these things possible, Sony. I'm not telling you to go out and buy a PS3 or to like the company, but at least have the respect to give them the benefit of doubt.
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Re: Datnizzle (Unregistered) - 2007-04-05 |
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» It's Over
This forum is now closed.
This forum is now closed.
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^Look a fake moderator^
^Look a fake moderator^
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