Posted May 06, 2007 at 05:45AM by Ian C.
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by Boby Brown (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» One word
SUPERBE !!!
SUPERBE !!!
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Re: wer (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» I can see the difference, whats so special ?
Its easy to see the difference, One is jaggie..
Its easy to see the difference, One is jaggie..
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by Happy Feet (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» OMG
I got it wrong, before the jump I thought the real life picture was GTHD, and vice versa.
amazing......
I got it wrong, before the jump I thought the real life picture was GTHD, and vice versa.
amazing......
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Re: O_O (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» ouch
same... -.-"
lol finally good press for ps3 :)
same... -.-"
lol finally good press for ps3 :)
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Re: WATMAN (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» same...
ps3 graphics look better than life.
ps3 graphics look better than life.
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Re: aaron (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» lol
i did the samething my friend. and with half the other pictures.
i did the samething my friend. and with half the other pictures.
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Re: OMG (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» OMG
youre right i got em mixed up 2
youre right i got em mixed up 2
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by Stallone *****s ur ***** up, *****! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» PWNGAGE!
wowzor0zr1!1!!
wowzor0zr1!1!!
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by HY (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Fake
These have to be fake.
If you look at every 'screenshot' thats meant to be of GT:HD you'll see that the wheels are completely stationary. No motion blur on the 'spokes' of the wheels. Secondly, when was this car in GT:HD? I can't remember seeing it in the car selection screens or anywhere. Thirdly, what the hell, there are screen shots that are complete copies of real life photos. Clearly these could only be created and not made simply from being in a single tracked demo that is GT:HD.
Now i love Gran Tourismo and all. And i'm a vivid GT Fan and can't wait for the 5th installment. But sheesh. This is just BS. Honestly.
These have to be fake.
If you look at every 'screenshot' thats meant to be of GT:HD you'll see that the wheels are completely stationary. No motion blur on the 'spokes' of the wheels. Secondly, when was this car in GT:HD? I can't remember seeing it in the car selection screens or anywhere. Thirdly, what the hell, there are screen shots that are complete copies of real life photos. Clearly these could only be created and not made simply from being in a single tracked demo that is GT:HD.
Now i love Gran Tourismo and all. And i'm a vivid GT Fan and can't wait for the 5th installment. But sheesh. This is just BS. Honestly.
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Re: DarKaoZ (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Not Fake
This is not fake, this car only appeared in a Special Edition of GT:HD that they released in a certain event, now they will release it to the public in a near future upgrade of GT:HD, but for now they are giving us the video of it a replay using the that same car. This is not a Fake at all.
This is not fake, this car only appeared in a Special Edition of GT:HD that they released in a certain event, now they will release it to the public in a near future upgrade of GT:HD, but for now they are giving us the video of it a replay using the that same car. This is not a Fake at all.
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Re: Reever (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» 60FPS
A screen capture at 60 FPS is prolly allot better than the camera they used for the picture. That explains the spokes of the weels
A screen capture at 60 FPS is prolly allot better than the camera they used for the picture. That explains the spokes of the weels
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Re: mentalboy11 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» balkdjfkaewr
They can stop the motion blur in replay mode, and freeze the entire game, then take a Screen shot.
They can stop the motion blur in replay mode, and freeze the entire game, then take a Screen shot.
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Re: Nathan (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Idiot
If you've actually played the game you would know that these are not fake.
If you've actually played the game you would know that these are not fake.
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Re: Taz (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Nissan Motor Sports Exhibition 2007
That was the special event with this car in the demo. They said they were going to release it as an update on PSN weren't they?
That was the special event with this car in the demo. They said they were going to release it as an update on PSN weren't they?
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Re: ***** (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» fuc
fuc fucity fuc fuc fuc fuc
fuc fucity fuc fuc fuc fuc
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by Vietone - 2007-05-06 |
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» ..
Its not fake.
GT doesn't use motion blur. Your eyes will do the blurring for you. Watch a replay of GTHD and take a snapshot with a camera. You will notice that theres no ghosts from previous frames and its not blurred.
Do the same for other racing games like Burnout, Need for Speed, PGR, Forza and all those games have motion blur. Motion blur for racing games means that the framerate for the game is inconsistent and therefore motion blur is used to smooth the times when the framerate may drop.
Motion blur was highly used in a lot of Xbox and PS2 games because it was an easy way to get around framerate drops. These days, developers claim that motion blur makes games more realistic looking but its wrong. When done correctly, your eyes will motion blur for you when something is moving fast.
Its not fake.
GT doesn't use motion blur. Your eyes will do the blurring for you. Watch a replay of GTHD and take a snapshot with a camera. You will notice that theres no ghosts from previous frames and its not blurred.
Do the same for other racing games like Burnout, Need for Speed, PGR, Forza and all those games have motion blur. Motion blur for racing games means that the framerate for the game is inconsistent and therefore motion blur is used to smooth the times when the framerate may drop.
Motion blur was highly used in a lot of Xbox and PS2 games because it was an easy way to get around framerate drops. These days, developers claim that motion blur makes games more realistic looking but its wrong. When done correctly, your eyes will motion blur for you when something is moving fast.
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Re: Mic2000 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» The Real thing about motion blur in next gen games!
Motion blur in next gen games do really exist and are different from the prev-gen motion blurs.
If we look at gears of war, turn around with the camera very fast and you will see a good motion blur. Now when you look at call of duty 2 for xbox 360, the framerate is really high, but you won't see any motion blurs. This makes it really fake. It gives me the feeling that i'm playing an arcarde game. Well that's my feeling.
Back to the motion blur part. If you look at the demo(trailer) of Project Offset, they can freeze the game, move with the camera, but still the motion blur of the game is there(they freezed the motion blur as well)... wauw...
Well what they do is saving the speed(vector) of every vertex* in every object(correct me if i'm wrong) using a pixel shading technique to make a motionblur in the same direction of every vector from every vertex.
With this technique you can freeze motion blurs etc. If you look at the long trailer of Little Big planet, in the end when they are on the skateboard. You see a really good motion blur diagonal of the objects that pass by. And what i saw was a really big motion blur mistake! The wheels of the skateboard did had a motion blur. But it didn't look right, if you look at it again you will see what i mean. Why it went wrong, because a vector just points to somewhere, some direction, the motion blur wil be made that direction nothing more. Well with wheels you don't have vectors, but (i don't know how to say it in english) rotating "vectors", because of the wheel that rotates. Now if they could use that, and use a motion blur technique that makes a motion blur in the good rotate direction then it would be nice, but that is a lot more work. So what they did with gran turismo where they have the same problem, they took away the motion blur of the wheels. Thats it. So:
1.Look at the demo of Project Offset
2.Then the demo trailer of LittleBigPlanet
3.Think Think, or read my stuff again ^
4.Make the conclusion that motion blur do exist, its always fake but that doesn't matter, that it's different from previous consoles, and that its currently not usefull on rotation objects ;)
Greets Mic2000
michielkrol.nl
Motion blur in next gen games do really exist and are different from the prev-gen motion blurs.
If we look at gears of war, turn around with the camera very fast and you will see a good motion blur. Now when you look at call of duty 2 for xbox 360, the framerate is really high, but you won't see any motion blurs. This makes it really fake. It gives me the feeling that i'm playing an arcarde game. Well that's my feeling.
Back to the motion blur part. If you look at the demo(trailer) of Project Offset, they can freeze the game, move with the camera, but still the motion blur of the game is there(they freezed the motion blur as well)... wauw...
Well what they do is saving the speed(vector) of every vertex* in every object(correct me if i'm wrong) using a pixel shading technique to make a motionblur in the same direction of every vector from every vertex.
With this technique you can freeze motion blurs etc. If you look at the long trailer of Little Big planet, in the end when they are on the skateboard. You see a really good motion blur diagonal of the objects that pass by. And what i saw was a really big motion blur mistake! The wheels of the skateboard did had a motion blur. But it didn't look right, if you look at it again you will see what i mean. Why it went wrong, because a vector just points to somewhere, some direction, the motion blur wil be made that direction nothing more. Well with wheels you don't have vectors, but (i don't know how to say it in english) rotating "vectors", because of the wheel that rotates. Now if they could use that, and use a motion blur technique that makes a motion blur in the good rotate direction then it would be nice, but that is a lot more work. So what they did with gran turismo where they have the same problem, they took away the motion blur of the wheels. Thats it. So:
1.Look at the demo of Project Offset
2.Then the demo trailer of LittleBigPlanet
3.Think Think, or read my stuff again ^
4.Make the conclusion that motion blur do exist, its always fake but that doesn't matter, that it's different from previous consoles, and that its currently not usefull on rotation objects ;)
Greets Mic2000
michielkrol.nl
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Re: Matt (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» woot
brains rape.
brains rape.
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Re: Vitone and his little comments (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» Vietone quotes on games he has never played
Forza 2 runs at 64FPS per second thats twice the amount of Motostorm, its not out yet so dont make out you know anything about it until you get the boxed retail version
Forza 2 runs at 64FPS per second thats twice the amount of Motostorm, its not out yet so dont make out you know anything about it until you get the boxed retail version
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by hush404 - 2007-05-06 |
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» nice!
I was fooled! but after looking closer, it's not the cars they have any prob making real, it's the environment that needs work.
I was fooled! but after looking closer, it's not the cars they have any prob making real, it's the environment that needs work.
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Re: Nerd - 2007-05-06 |
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lol yea..of course the environments ned improving - GT:HD is basically GT4. the main thing that has been improved are the car models, and the backdrops.
lol yea..of course the environments ned improving - GT:HD is basically GT4. the main thing that has been improved are the car models, and the backdrops.
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Re: Vincent (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» umm
you do know that the camera angles are focused on the cars right? therefore making the background look significantly worse. GTHD on my hdtv on 1080p looks great (enviroment), though the crowd could use a bit of an emotional touch up +P
you do know that the camera angles are focused on the cars right? therefore making the background look significantly worse. GTHD on my hdtv on 1080p looks great (enviroment), though the crowd could use a bit of an emotional touch up +P
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Re: slomo (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» nice indeed
And let's not forget that GTHD is not even an Alpha of GT5. It's just GT4 with upgraded graphics. Well that's what I read in IGN. It doesn't have anything nex-gen yet apart from 1080p resolution (AI, physics, environment, real-time damage...)
And let's not forget that GTHD is not even an Alpha of GT5. It's just GT4 with upgraded graphics. Well that's what I read in IGN. It doesn't have anything nex-gen yet apart from 1080p resolution (AI, physics, environment, real-time damage...)
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by loller (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Umm...
Ok, in GT:HD, when watching a replay you can pause it, making the car stop, and there is no motion blur, so then they take the picture.
Ok, in GT:HD, when watching a replay you can pause it, making the car stop, and there is no motion blur, so then they take the picture.
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Re: Vietone - 2007-05-06 |
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» ...
except if that was the case then the background environment wouldn't be blurred
except if that was the case then the background environment wouldn't be blurred
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by wow (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» .
not with 360
not with 360
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by I've been had! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» F@@K L@@K
I've been had folks! Yes! It's true! I seriously assumed the real life picture was the PS3 one and the PS3 one to be the real life image.
I've been had folks! Yes! It's true! I seriously assumed the real life picture was the PS3 one and the PS3 one to be the real life image.
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by PSPPICTURETHREAD (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Thats not fair!
I gave this news to you and said if you do post this up, please give credit where necessary. Obviously you have not done so :(
I gave this news to you and said if you do post this up, please give credit where necessary. Obviously you have not done so :(
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-05-06 |
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» Probably
they got this info at the same time that you submitted it. Same thing happened to me a couple of times.
they got this info at the same time that you submitted it. Same thing happened to me a couple of times.
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by NICE!!! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» PS3 owns....
The true champ of the consoles is starting to become clearer and clearer.
PS3 wins.
The true champ of the consoles is starting to become clearer and clearer.
PS3 wins.
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by Reever (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Lolz
Xbox 360 fanboys are nowhere to be found. Oh yeah thats cus they think its sexy too
Xbox 360 fanboys are nowhere to be found. Oh yeah thats cus they think its sexy too
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Re: qweq (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» Why so about 360 ok lets go up against Forza 2
Well lets see in Three weeks when the first true 64fps next gen FULL game Forza 2 hits the streets.
Well lets see in Three weeks when the first true 64fps next gen FULL game Forza 2 hits the streets.
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Re: kd (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» compare images
compare images of forza and gt hd forza is not even close to real life only one more game is near to real life touch and its crysis all xbots know that xbox360 cannot support these types of games and by the way 64 fps will not give the game real life time graphics ps3 can play 64 fps but its not about that its about the power of rsx chip which gives reallifetime graphics and in pc u have completely upgrade to play crysis u need nextgen pc which i cannot afford
compare images of forza and gt hd forza is not even close to real life only one more game is near to real life touch and its crysis all xbots know that xbox360 cannot support these types of games and by the way 64 fps will not give the game real life time graphics ps3 can play 64 fps but its not about that its about the power of rsx chip which gives reallifetime graphics and in pc u have completely upgrade to play crysis u need nextgen pc which i cannot afford
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by jroder (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» What happened?
wasnt this video supposed to be on Playstation Network by now? Why cant I find it?
Or was it only released in a certain region?
wasnt this video supposed to be on Playstation Network by now? Why cant I find it?
Or was it only released in a certain region?
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by XBoXLover (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» wow
The graphic are just so beautiful. It even looks better than real life. PS3 is just amazing! Cant wait to get this GT5.
The graphic are just so beautiful. It even looks better than real life. PS3 is just amazing! Cant wait to get this GT5.
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by salo (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» its amazing
well im impressed with this its just too real and its not even the GT:5 so imagen the GT:5 how would it look like and if a game is exclusive to one console then its much better on it because you know a ll the specfition on it and dont need to worry about what other console has if GT goes multiplatform then it wont be this good.
well im impressed with this its just too real and its not even the GT:5 so imagen the GT:5 how would it look like and if a game is exclusive to one console then its much better on it because you know a ll the specfition on it and dont need to worry about what other console has if GT goes multiplatform then it wont be this good.
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by render (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Replay Render
that ist not ingame.
its render replay
that ist not ingame.
its render replay
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Re: X (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Is that so, Mr. Know it all?
And you know this how? Did you actually do the rendering yourself? What proof do you have to back up that claim? Have you even played the demo to know what it looks like IRL? No, I forgot, you can't afford a PS3 which is why you must find every excuse to try and make you feel better. Good luck.
And you know this how? Did you actually do the rendering yourself? What proof do you have to back up that claim? Have you even played the demo to know what it looks like IRL? No, I forgot, you can't afford a PS3 which is why you must find every excuse to try and make you feel better. Good luck.
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by skyler (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» what the heck
the game version looks better than real life lol
the game version looks better than real life lol
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by No (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Those
Those of you who say it looks better than real life are implying that it looks so good, that it looks fake. Nothing can look better than real life, because real life is........... real life and if something was to take place of real life, what would that make real life?
Those of you who say it looks better than real life are implying that it looks so good, that it looks fake. Nothing can look better than real life, because real life is........... real life and if something was to take place of real life, what would that make real life?
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Re: mentalboy11 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» eh
how about its better than the camera that took the real picture!
how about its better than the camera that took the real picture!
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Re: billy (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» unless....
you need glasses in real life and the game compensates for a lack of them!
you need glasses in real life and the game compensates for a lack of them!
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-05-06 |
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» Perfect Example Is...
some of those flawless women in games. Same thing with magazines where those hot women you see are not entirely real. They are either paint brushed or photo shopped. Either way, it is all about the eye candy.
some of those flawless women in games. Same thing with magazines where those hot women you see are not entirely real. They are either paint brushed or photo shopped. Either way, it is all about the eye candy.
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by Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Gran Turismo games are so yesterday
Come on, GTA 5 still wont have car damage because the car companies wont let them. This game will be another marketing strategy for car companies out there. Forza 2 will be better because its running 64fps and has car damages. I dont care about 600+ cars. Most of the cars are junk anyway. A minivan in a Racing game? Give me a break. Im better off with having 300 cars in Forza 2. Atleast we would have some downloadable content like cars and tracks.
Come on, GTA 5 still wont have car damage because the car companies wont let them. This game will be another marketing strategy for car companies out there. Forza 2 will be better because its running 64fps and has car damages. I dont care about 600+ cars. Most of the cars are junk anyway. A minivan in a Racing game? Give me a break. Im better off with having 300 cars in Forza 2. Atleast we would have some downloadable content like cars and tracks.
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Re: Eddie (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» GT games are NOT yesterday!
Polyphony themselves admitted that creating the type of damage currently is games is very simplified and general damage (i.e. same cracks on windshield or same dent on fender), but being that they are perfectionists they would take the extra step and implement actual damages done to every part of the vehicle and the extent of the damage on that panel would vary according to the impact. However, the coding to make this happen "would be like creating another game." Basically, they don't want to half ass the job, if it's not perfect it won't be in the game. But we can probably expect this feature in an update or GT6.
Polyphony themselves admitted that creating the type of damage currently is games is very simplified and general damage (i.e. same cracks on windshield or same dent on fender), but being that they are perfectionists they would take the extra step and implement actual damages done to every part of the vehicle and the extent of the damage on that panel would vary according to the impact. However, the coding to make this happen "would be like creating another game." Basically, they don't want to half ass the job, if it's not perfect it won't be in the game. But we can probably expect this feature in an update or GT6.
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Re: Seoulfood (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» hahaha
64 fps? did you add the 4 to make it better than GT? That's pretty tricky. The GT devs said that they might incorporate damage depending on what the car companies allow. I mean, there is a limit to what any dev can do in terms of damage. Even in Forza, you won't see the front of a car get crunched up even if you hit a wall at 70 miles per hour(at least from the demonstration I saw). Damage will be, at best, bumpers falling off.
64 fps? did you add the 4 to make it better than GT? That's pretty tricky. The GT devs said that they might incorporate damage depending on what the car companies allow. I mean, there is a limit to what any dev can do in terms of damage. Even in Forza, you won't see the front of a car get crunched up even if you hit a wall at 70 miles per hour(at least from the demonstration I saw). Damage will be, at best, bumpers falling off.
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Re: billy (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» sometimes it's better...
sometimes it's better just to not say anything...(like in these circumstances)...GT HD looks stunningly awesome and nobody can argue this.
sometimes it's better just to not say anything...(like in these circumstances)...GT HD looks stunningly awesome and nobody can argue this.
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Re: slomo (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Typical 360 moron
Every time the PS gets the upper leg it's "Well I'd rather do less of my 360 because [insert lame reason]". Why don't you just shut up if you have nothing to say. PS3 users acknowledge what is impressive on the 360 and ask for more. But you guys will always beans from Microsoft because their console is so PEEEERFECT. Why do you care about 300 cars by the way. Just ask for 60 and the game will be perfect. lol. This guy is unbelievable. Well I'm still waiting for your post on Home Mr. Retarded. Let me guess: "Oh I prefer XBL because Home is soooo gimmick and complicated".
Every time the PS gets the upper leg it's "Well I'd rather do less of my 360 because [insert lame reason]". Why don't you just shut up if you have nothing to say. PS3 users acknowledge what is impressive on the 360 and ask for more. But you guys will always beans from Microsoft because their console is so PEEEERFECT. Why do you care about 300 cars by the way. Just ask for 60 and the game will be perfect. lol. This guy is unbelievable. Well I'm still waiting for your post on Home Mr. Retarded. Let me guess: "Oh I prefer XBL because Home is soooo gimmick and complicated".
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» ...
Dont you ever get tired? We are with you Mr anything BUT common sense thats for sure...
Dont you ever get tired? We are with you Mr anything BUT common sense thats for sure...
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Re: mentalboy11 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» HAH!
i just came up with a response! a not so good one but still containing a point!
Motorstorm has damage! better than forza!
i just came up with a response! a not so good one but still containing a point!
Motorstorm has damage! better than forza!
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Re: B!g Bo$$ (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» "Sigh"
Clearly an xbox 360 fanboy...
Clearly an xbox 360 fanboy...
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-05-08 |
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» I guess I spawned a whole generation of imposters
Oh well...
While it's hard to thell in these low res images,
the differences are obvious to me with the high res images from the site.
There is no dirt on the car from the gran turismo pictures.
If you look closely, you can see the GT pics are more pixelated.
The background has motion blur, but the wheels don't, like the car is a hovercraft.
The reflections are duller on the GT version also.
It's good, but not great. Nothing really to brag about. I thought Forza 2 looked much better as they showed close up comparisons, and the detail in the reflections and lighting was completely photo realistic.
Gran Tursimo was the s*it when it came out on playstation 10 years ago. Sadly, it's still basically the same f*cking game with better graphics. Crappy AI, no damage modeling, same tracks, same performance mods, just nothing new to offer. They spend all their time making every peice of s*it on wheels available in the game even though only half of them are decent race cars and leave all these issues unnattended.
Oh well...
While it's hard to thell in these low res images,
the differences are obvious to me with the high res images from the site.
There is no dirt on the car from the gran turismo pictures.
If you look closely, you can see the GT pics are more pixelated.
The background has motion blur, but the wheels don't, like the car is a hovercraft.
The reflections are duller on the GT version also.
It's good, but not great. Nothing really to brag about. I thought Forza 2 looked much better as they showed close up comparisons, and the detail in the reflections and lighting was completely photo realistic.
Gran Tursimo was the s*it when it came out on playstation 10 years ago. Sadly, it's still basically the same f*cking game with better graphics. Crappy AI, no damage modeling, same tracks, same performance mods, just nothing new to offer. They spend all their time making every peice of s*it on wheels available in the game even though only half of them are decent race cars and leave all these issues unnattended.
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by mentalboy11 (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» lol
forza > gran turismo?
WHAT A GREAT JOKE!
you make me laugh every day mr common sense, its good to have you around. you really point out the stupidest stuff when it comes to the 360!
forza > gran turismo?
WHAT A GREAT JOKE!
you make me laugh every day mr common sense, its good to have you around. you really point out the stupidest stuff when it comes to the 360!
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by lmxloco - 2007-05-06 |
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» .
It's a good thing that the car isn't damaged, otherwise you'd be able to tell right away which one was real life and which one sucked...I mean, which one was GT.
Besides, everyone knows GT makes cars look pretty, and in real life road grime and dirt will cake the car after running lap after lap after lap. It was supremely easy to tell the difference, because GT doesn't model the slow accumulation of dirt and grime, like for instance the Colin McRae series.
It's a good thing that the car isn't damaged, otherwise you'd be able to tell right away which one was real life and which one sucked...I mean, which one was GT.
Besides, everyone knows GT makes cars look pretty, and in real life road grime and dirt will cake the car after running lap after lap after lap. It was supremely easy to tell the difference, because GT doesn't model the slow accumulation of dirt and grime, like for instance the Colin McRae series.
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Re: meee (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» word
true but just wait until gt5 this was just an upgrade to the gt4 engine ya know i doubt they would change much
true but just wait until gt5 this was just an upgrade to the gt4 engine ya know i doubt they would change much
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Re: Demibeard (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» Um, have you actually played GT4?
The cars do get dirty, granted not to the extent of a rally game, but if you use the car wash there is a noticeable difference to the gleam, maybe those x-pox fan-boy glasses you wear have clouded your vision.
The cars do get dirty, granted not to the extent of a rally game, but if you use the car wash there is a noticeable difference to the gleam, maybe those x-pox fan-boy glasses you wear have clouded your vision.
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Re: ackeejag (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» FPS
i wonder when games will be displayed at 100fps. what will people do to outdo the competition then?
i wonder when games will be displayed at 100fps. what will people do to outdo the competition then?
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Re: lmxloco - 2007-05-07 |
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» RE: Demibeard
Umm, no...they don't. The car wash was a gimmick in GT4. They look pretty in the car wash screen, but on the course they look the same before and after.
I'm not trying to compare it to Forza because the cars in GT have always looked better, but even in a few of the released Forza vids, they show some tire rubber debris build-up on each of the wheel wells behind the tires. It's not much, but it's something. I'm just wondering why the GT series hasn't taken this route yet.
And why the hell don't they have damage!? If the 360 can do it, then surely the PS3 can. The GT series has just lost some of it's appeal to me, recently.
Umm, no...they don't. The car wash was a gimmick in GT4. They look pretty in the car wash screen, but on the course they look the same before and after.
I'm not trying to compare it to Forza because the cars in GT have always looked better, but even in a few of the released Forza vids, they show some tire rubber debris build-up on each of the wheel wells behind the tires. It's not much, but it's something. I'm just wondering why the GT series hasn't taken this route yet.
And why the hell don't they have damage!? If the 360 can do it, then surely the PS3 can. The GT series has just lost some of it's appeal to me, recently.
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there really isn't much need for 60+fps in games...the majority of tvs cant display more than 60fps. the reason for even thinking about 120fps is so that you can make sure the frame rate will never drop below 60fps, and that wouldnt happen too much in a well developed game - the visual difference between 60fps and 120fps would be minimal. one of the places the figure 120fps makes sense is in cameras, like the playstation eye. its 120fps feature wont improve visuals, but it'll improve the cameras motion sensitivity function as it has more images to process
there really isn't much need for 60+fps in games...the majority of tvs cant display more than 60fps. the reason for even thinking about 120fps is so that you can make sure the frame rate will never drop below 60fps, and that wouldnt happen too much in a well developed game - the visual difference between 60fps and 120fps would be minimal. one of the places the figure 120fps makes sense is in cameras, like the playstation eye. its 120fps feature wont improve visuals, but it'll improve the cameras motion sensitivity function as it has more images to process
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by Shatterdome - 2007-05-06 |
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» OMG!!!
It looks like they pumped up the contrast in real life to blow out the details of the bad textures !!
Lighting is the main thing holding these back....the cars are basically evenly lit with no huge blow out reflections.
It's also sad for a game called GTHD to not have HDR lighting....oh well....
It looks like they pumped up the contrast in real life to blow out the details of the bad textures !!
Lighting is the main thing holding these back....the cars are basically evenly lit with no huge blow out reflections.
It's also sad for a game called GTHD to not have HDR lighting....oh well....
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» ...
ok then.. why dont you tell us how forza 2 will be better than GTHD too... you are as laim as Mr common sense is....
ok then.. why dont you tell us how forza 2 will be better than GTHD too... you are as laim as Mr common sense is....
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-05-06 |
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» Thats Uneducated If I Ever Hear Such A Thing..
Come on dude you must be dissing for another reason because I see nothing more special like you say in the real life models in the pics that you see on here. Contrast has nothing to do with what you are seeing because the contrast is neutral. Stop talking out of your @$$.
Come on dude you must be dissing for another reason because I see nothing more special like you say in the real life models in the pics that you see on here. Contrast has nothing to do with what you are seeing because the contrast is neutral. Stop talking out of your @$$.
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Re: B!g Bo$$ (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» ...
There is HDR in GTHD!!! When you drive through the tunnel! You can clearly see it!
There is HDR in GTHD!!! When you drive through the tunnel! You can clearly see it!
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Re: Seoulfood (Unregistered) - 2007-05-09 |
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» ha...
You know there's something wrong with your argument when all you can stick to is HDR.. Is this supposed to be some kind of technical marvel? Even PS2 did it, and it did it with flying colors, I should add. But yea, GT does have HDR, but it doesn't overkill it like many many many games do these days.
You know there's something wrong with your argument when all you can stick to is HDR.. Is this supposed to be some kind of technical marvel? Even PS2 did it, and it did it with flying colors, I should add. But yea, GT does have HDR, but it doesn't overkill it like many many many games do these days.
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by Hekynn - 2007-05-06 |
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» OMG!!
OMFG man that looks supurb!!! Now they just need to make a wireless wheel and peddles :)
OMFG man that looks supurb!!! Now they just need to make a wireless wheel and peddles :)
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by karzie (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» wow but...
GT HD to me has without a doubt the best graphics for a car games. However all the screenshots are taken from the replay. When racing in actual drive mode the graphics don’t look as photo realistic. What’s the point on having so much detail on graphics during the replay when most people just skip the replay.
GT HD to me has without a doubt the best graphics for a car games. However all the screenshots are taken from the replay. When racing in actual drive mode the graphics don’t look as photo realistic. What’s the point on having so much detail on graphics during the replay when most people just skip the replay.
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Re: don (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» you have a point
I hate replays, what a waste of time.
I hate replays, what a waste of time.
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Re: dave (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» replay
the replay is only what someone did, its no different then the gameplay. the game cant render its own cgi. thats something the developers have to do before the game is playable. so what ever you see in a replay IS the actual gameplay. it might be because you are driving and things seem to blur as you go faster
the replay is only what someone did, its no different then the gameplay. the game cant render its own cgi. thats something the developers have to do before the game is playable. so what ever you see in a replay IS the actual gameplay. it might be because you are driving and things seem to blur as you go faster
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Re: Nerd (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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shut up would you! go play the damn game please!! if you play it..you'll soon realise the graphics of actually gameplay and replays are exactly the same! idiot.
shut up would you! go play the damn game please!! if you play it..you'll soon realise the graphics of actually gameplay and replays are exactly the same! idiot.
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by xophaser - 2007-05-06 |
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» Looking good.
If the quality of the graphic will end up looking 80% of these shots, then I am getting it. Wait, I will be getting it anyway.
Icing on the cake.
If the quality of the graphic will end up looking 80% of these shots, then I am getting it. Wait, I will be getting it anyway.
Icing on the cake.
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Re: Taz (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» more like %150
These are just screenshots of a game that's already out. GTHD. Download it yourself and have a look
GT5 will most definitely look better than this
These are just screenshots of a game that's already out. GTHD. Download it yourself and have a look
GT5 will most definitely look better than this
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Re: Seoulfood (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» wow
I don't even see how that would be possible, Taz(in terms of screenshots).
I don't even see how that would be possible, Taz(in terms of screenshots).
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Re: Taz (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» The environment still needs improvement
while the cars themselves are stunning. things like the spectators, road, grass, background can still be improved.
I think they'll still manage to improve the cars too, at least with possible damage, and other physics.
I'd like if if they introduce rain.
Animation in general will get better, at the moment things in motion still look artificial, things like dirt and stones kicked up by tyres correctly modelled would be nice
while the cars themselves are stunning. things like the spectators, road, grass, background can still be improved.
I think they'll still manage to improve the cars too, at least with possible damage, and other physics.
I'd like if if they introduce rain.
Animation in general will get better, at the moment things in motion still look artificial, things like dirt and stones kicked up by tyres correctly modelled would be nice
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by dude (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» woot!!!
suck my balls forza2!!!!!!!!!!! muahaaaahaha
suck my balls forza2!!!!!!!!!!! muahaaaahaha
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by lol (Unregistered) - 2007-05-06 |
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» x-box
GT is the best looking car game, if you disagree you are a x-bot or an idiot (same thing). So all you x-bots get out of the PS3 updates and go back to where you came from. Just because you don't have a PS3 you feel like you need to come over to these forums to people who own the system and talk sh1t about it?
The GT demo was amazing. Remember that GT is a racing simulator and is made to be like the real thing. And for those people who say GT is sh1t because it has no damage, do you really want to be on the last lap of a 200 lap endurance race and hit a wall at 300kp/h, get the car all CRUNCHED up and blown to pieces and have the car respawn? WTF? or even a pop up on the window say you were last to finish the race because you crashed...
Minor damage in GT is perfect, I repeat it's a racing simulator, if you want damage go play burnout of somthing. GT is a completely different game OK?
I can't wait for this game, been a GT fan since GT 1 on the first Playstation. BUT! I would like GT to have an online play option and fix the crowd of people :P
The only reason x-bots even bother coming to a PS3 forum is because:
a) They are jelous of the PS3, so they talk sh1t.
b) They want a PS3 but cant afford it, so they talk sh1t.
c) They have nothing to do because their x-box has over heated and died, so they talk sh1t.
d) They are lonely nerds that want attention, so they talk sh1t.
F uck off x-bots, just f uck off!!!
GT is the best looking car game, if you disagree you are a x-bot or an idiot (same thing). So all you x-bots get out of the PS3 updates and go back to where you came from. Just because you don't have a PS3 you feel like you need to come over to these forums to people who own the system and talk sh1t about it?
The GT demo was amazing. Remember that GT is a racing simulator and is made to be like the real thing. And for those people who say GT is sh1t because it has no damage, do you really want to be on the last lap of a 200 lap endurance race and hit a wall at 300kp/h, get the car all CRUNCHED up and blown to pieces and have the car respawn? WTF? or even a pop up on the window say you were last to finish the race because you crashed...
Minor damage in GT is perfect, I repeat it's a racing simulator, if you want damage go play burnout of somthing. GT is a completely different game OK?
I can't wait for this game, been a GT fan since GT 1 on the first Playstation. BUT! I would like GT to have an online play option and fix the crowd of people :P
The only reason x-bots even bother coming to a PS3 forum is because:
a) They are jelous of the PS3, so they talk sh1t.
b) They want a PS3 but cant afford it, so they talk sh1t.
c) They have nothing to do because their x-box has over heated and died, so they talk sh1t.
d) They are lonely nerds that want attention, so they talk sh1t.
F uck off x-bots, just f uck off!!!
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Re: LOLouder (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» Sure
"They are lonely nerds that want attention, so they talk sh1t."
Unfortunately, your ranting post makes you seem more like the 'lonely nerds' you're referring too.
Anyway...I'm not going to get into the PS3 vs 360 nonsense here, since that's not what this topic is about. But I would say that the GT series IS in need of enhancements, and damage is one of them.
You say it's a racing simulator and was made to be like the real thing and yet you don't want damage to effect the car's performance? How is that realistic?
I see nothing wrong with the idea of damage (Forza proved it can work really well), especially if it stop gamers from using other cars to bump around corners quickly, which is a classic GT tactic and one which is very unrealistic and something which would be REALLY annoying to gamers online.
Ideally, they should have various levels of damage, from none at all right up to ultra realistic. That way, everyone would be satisfied, but it SHOULD be in the game imo, especially for one you say "is a racing simulator and is made to be like the real thing".
"They are lonely nerds that want attention, so they talk sh1t."
Unfortunately, your ranting post makes you seem more like the 'lonely nerds' you're referring too.
Anyway...I'm not going to get into the PS3 vs 360 nonsense here, since that's not what this topic is about. But I would say that the GT series IS in need of enhancements, and damage is one of them.
You say it's a racing simulator and was made to be like the real thing and yet you don't want damage to effect the car's performance? How is that realistic?
I see nothing wrong with the idea of damage (Forza proved it can work really well), especially if it stop gamers from using other cars to bump around corners quickly, which is a classic GT tactic and one which is very unrealistic and something which would be REALLY annoying to gamers online.
Ideally, they should have various levels of damage, from none at all right up to ultra realistic. That way, everyone would be satisfied, but it SHOULD be in the game imo, especially for one you say "is a racing simulator and is made to be like the real thing".
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Re: rywyr (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» STUPIST COMMENT EVER - repeat it's a racing simulator, if you want damage go play burnout of somthing.
LMAO at the poster 2 above me he says -
Minor damage in GT is perfect, I repeat it's a racing simulator, if you want damage go play burnout of somthing. GT is a completely different game OK?
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HA HA dont you know what a simulator is? it means it is simulating real life i.e it should have real life type damage in crashes etc IDIOT.
LMAO at the poster 2 above me he says -
Minor damage in GT is perfect, I repeat it's a racing simulator, if you want damage go play burnout of somthing. GT is a completely different game OK?
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HA HA dont you know what a simulator is? it means it is simulating real life i.e it should have real life type damage in crashes etc IDIOT.
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by werew (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» Forza 2 is out in 3 weeks , GT is out proberly in 2 years or something
The big difference between Forza 2 and GT is the usual PS3 problem its not coming out for bloody ages whereas FORZA 2 is out in about 3 weeks, Forza 2 has been tweaked to the limit and it is going to be hard to beat.
It will be interesting to see if they can actually get GT running at 64FPS as Forza 2 can, they couldnt do it with Motostorm.
The way you are trying to make out this looks so good is just stupid, they are replay shots ALL racing games look a hell of a lot better in replay shots its that simple, and of course you cant play a driving game without rumble so you had better get saving up for those pads that you are going to be forced to buy IF they include rumble in GT
The big difference between Forza 2 and GT is the usual PS3 problem its not coming out for bloody ages whereas FORZA 2 is out in about 3 weeks, Forza 2 has been tweaked to the limit and it is going to be hard to beat.
It will be interesting to see if they can actually get GT running at 64FPS as Forza 2 can, they couldnt do it with Motostorm.
The way you are trying to make out this looks so good is just stupid, they are replay shots ALL racing games look a hell of a lot better in replay shots its that simple, and of course you cant play a driving game without rumble so you had better get saving up for those pads that you are going to be forced to buy IF they include rumble in GT
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go play the game ou idiot. you'll soon realize the replays dont look better than the gameplay. its the same!! damn stupid xbox fanboys
go play the game ou idiot. you'll soon realize the replays dont look better than the gameplay. its the same!! damn stupid xbox fanboys
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by dylantalon (Unregistered) - 2007-05-07 |
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» people hating on ps3
i see some people saying that these pics are fake and that makes me know they dont have a ps3. all these pics are real and these sick real to life graphics are what ps3 has to offer. PS3 IS THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE IS PS3
i see some people saying that these pics are fake and that makes me know they dont have a ps3. all these pics are real and these sick real to life graphics are what ps3 has to offer. PS3 IS THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE IS PS3
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by STONE - 2007-05-07 |
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» i got mixed up with real life
wow just wow nothing i expect nothing less from GT5.
wow just wow nothing i expect nothing less from GT5.
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