Posted Jun 08, 2009 at 12:19AM by Mabie A. Listed in: News, Games Tags: Sony, Take-Two Interactive
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Rockstar PS3 Exclusive - Image 1So there's a new Rockstar title announced at the E3 2009, and it was made to be known that it will be a PS3- exclusive. Said game was simply called Agent (not to be confused with The Agency). So why is it a PS3-exclusive?

Ben Feder, Take-Two Interactive (Rockstar's parent), explains:

The trade-offs a publisher will typically make is, if you're platform-antagonistic, you get a larger install-base. You're platform exclusive when you get the right kind of support from first parties... 


At this phase int he cycle, when you're trying to launch a new franchise, exclusivity can really help you launch the franchise. It can give you the kind of platform that you need to start exclusive, start in the right kind of way with the right kind of partner. Exclusivity does work.



Feder also expressed his confidence in the PS3 despite being having the least numbers generated in sales.

I have a lot of confidence in Sony. I have a lot of confidence in their ability to lead the market, as they always have. Their console is a terrific platform to be developing form, and Agent is a great testament as to our belief in what the platform can do, and what they can do with us as a part of a partnership.


We'll be sure to update you on the latest on Agent as soon as we hear more about it.



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   by optimaxxx - 2009-06-08
 » yay!

Now if someone could reassure me the new MGS game isn't going to look worse than MGS4, i'd be able to sleep a whole lot easier


   Re: Jez - 2009-06-08
 » I can't help you there

But there's really no reason why it should look worse. Different perhaps, but not necessarily worse.

   Re: GUNBEHINDTHESUN - 2009-06-08
 » The new MGS

The new MGS is going to be on PSP so of course it won't look as good as th PS3 version. But as a PSP game, it should look mighty fine.

   Re: Mr Toasty - 2009-06-08
 » i believe

he was talking about Metal Gear Solid Rising, which is on 360 and PS3.

And optima, I can't guarantee that lol, apparently no one who worked on MGS4 is working on rising, so we'll see what happens.

As long as it isn't another "Snake's Revenge" I'll be happy.

   Re: Rickey123 - 2009-06-08
 » @Mr Toasted

"he was talking about Metal Gear Solid Rising, which is on 360 and PS3."

when you put the copy of the mgs into the 360 a picture of hideo comes up with a big "LAWL". the xbox then seizes up and gets rrod

   Re: fearlubu - 2009-06-08
 » @Rickey123

nah dood it says this: (the 1st pic of the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+dkDkbfjXNYU+feature+channel_page


and do not fear my children, tis is not a rick roll!
   by Musev - 2009-06-08
 » ...

"despite being having the least numbers generated in sales. "

That sort of comment makes me laugh.
for example the wii has sold the most but you'd likely get crap sales on certain games that'll do well on the other two.

the 360 is about 9 million ahead of the ps3 but the ps3 has about 20mill (Im told)
thats not that much of a difference considering how many 360's have broken and been replaced (I know a few people that own three 360's through breaking and just buying the elite cos it was new) Im sure they're not alone and most people I know own ps3, none have more than one)
on top of that I read that most 360's were sold in america (surprise surprise!) so the rest of the world is more balanced between the two.


   Re: Jez - 2009-06-08
 » Sigh

Can we stop with the sales cr@p now?

I mean, last gen, all you kept hearing (especially from MS fanboys) is that the PS2 only sold so much because gamers had to buy a new one after the dreaded 'DRE' (Disk Read Error) problem.

The 360 has a 8-9 million lead over the PS3. That's it. Those are the facts, no theories or speculation needed. Stop looking for reasons to pretend the lead is not as much as it sounds, like the fanboys last gen pretending the PS2's lead was not as big as it seems.

Right, now I've got that off my chest, I can't wait to what Agent is going to be like, especially since being exclusive means they can get more out of the PS3 than if it was multiformat.

   Re: NathanDrake - 2009-06-08
 » ...

'DRE'? I've never even heard of that. My PS2 still works perfectly fine 7 years after I bought it now.

Anyways I'm keen to see what this game will be like as Rockstar usually tend to make games I've enjoyed greatly (most GTAs, Bully, The Warriors, Red Dead Revolver and so on)

   Re: WarNerve - 2009-06-08
 » Seriously?

Who the hell had to buy a new PS2 because of the Disk Read Error problem? There was a simple fix for that, and I known fewer people to encounter DRE then RROD. 3 RRODs myself.

   Re: xophaser - 2009-06-08
 » PS2 still works

My 2001 PS2 still works fine. The disc error is like less then 1% where the RROD is around 10-20%. That is a big different. Agent is trying to be like the first GTA, a fresh new franchise born from the PS.

   Re: SikWitThiz - 2009-06-08
 » Ps2 Disc Read Error

The PS2 Disc read error was mostly due to people know keeping the fans + laser lens clean. I've cleaned about 8 since the system been out. They all had the same issue. They dirty from dusty and whatever floated into the fans. It's always funny to hear people complain about something that was caused by the system not being properly ventilated. I'm not saying there weren't Other errors or real disc read errors but the bulk of them was from dirt.

   Re: Jez - 2009-06-08
 » You are missing the point guys

The point I'm making is that fanboys used the DRE problem as an excuse to suggest PS2 sales were due to gamers re-purchasing a PS2. Fact, even though it was not true.

How severe the problem was is NOT THE POINT. It was an issue which effected enough of the PS2s (original model especially) to become a well known problem. Hence FAQs all over the net about it, eg;

http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/ps2repair/

Yes, most of the time there was a solution (not always, but most), but that didn't stop all the nonsense coming from fanboys about PS2 sales.

That claim still continues, look here from 2007, I could probably find one from this year if I tried;

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11594.cfm

Some guy called Riotard says "Thign is atleast every ps2 owner must have had to rebuy, because i mean everyone i know has got the disc read error, so its therefore like 60million actually, because sony failed to make a consol that will last long enough. Yes i no 360's die even quicker, still my mega drive works fine, so does my n64, the best game consol should hardly ever break!"

See what I'm talking about?

So the suggestion that 360 sales are also due to a significant portion being re-purchased by gamers is also rubbish.

I would even use the argument I used last gen about the PS2, which is.... lets say it's true that gamers are rebuying a PS2 because of the DRE problem, then so what, a sale is a sale is a sale! If the product is good enough for gamers to be willing to buy another one (even though a repair would usually be cheaper), then who are we to complain?

One final point, anyone rebuying a console are not going to be rebuying all the games as well, since they will work on the new console! "Well duh, what's your point Jez?" I hear you ask. Well, if you take one gamer, and he has 8 games for his console, then the attach rate is 8. If he buys the same console again, then he will now have two consoles for those 8 games, making the attach rate only 4. Hence the attach rate will DROP if a significant portion of gamers are buying 2nd or 3rd 360s. But the fact is, in all regions, the 360 has the highest attach rate (including Japan to my surprise!!!);

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/04/13/xbox_360_attach_rates/

Therefore proving that rebuys are NOT responsible for a significant portion of 360 sales.

That's it. Me done now.

   Re: Fujin - 2009-06-08
 » Hey Jez...

You fail!

   Re: Echo307 - 2009-06-08
 » @Jez

My hats off to you. A well written, well informed response, and you even game links to support your talk. And you did all of that without slamming one console or the other. It's rare to see someone put that kind of thought in to a simple video game debate. Kudos.

   Re: Jez - 2009-06-12
 » ^^^

Thanks Echo307 :)
   by ShadeyProphet - 2009-06-08
 » Hmm

What I see is a song and dance explaining that if this game flops, rockstar wont have lost as much money releasing it on a system with a smaller install base..


I could be wrong, But this game doesnt seem to have a lot of faith invested in it,, Not enough to interest me, the consumer...


   Re: lokk - 2009-06-08
 » blah

boohoo go play your Xbox and get off the forum if your not interested.
   by enigmaticdude - 2009-06-08
 » great

What about GTA IV DLC?
Why hasn't the PS3 gotten it?


   Re: jrsmaster411 - 2009-06-08
 » be patient

it'll come

   Re: papajag - 2009-06-08
 » ...

Who cares about the DLC. I have a 360 and GTA4 and even I don't want that crap. I just want this game to be good or make GTA5 have as much game content as Vice City and San Andreas but with the smoother gameplay of GTA4.
   by groupleader - 2009-06-08
 » Why should any company


Have to explain WHY they have made a ps3 exclusive, no one has explained why 360 has so many. Between x-play being so pro 360 and this we need some balance. when are we going to get a explanation why are not getting any gta dlc?

   by 0genmu0 - 2009-06-08
 » sales?

"Feder also expressed his confidence in the PS3 despite being having the least numbers generated in sales"

Sales for what? the console itself or previous games?

I for one just think it's because they're just looked at the big picture and saw PS3 to be more profitable as it's nay hackable (yet, please keep that streak up sony) where as if they go multi with 360, a certain percentage of the game would probably be involved with piracy and development cost would again sore through the roof.



   Re: Seoulfood - 2009-06-08
 » I agree.

But even if people hacked the PS3, how many PS3 games could you possibly store on the hard drive. Barring the multi-platform ones, most exclusive games are 15-50 GB big. Even if you hooked up a big hdd to it, those games would eat it up. Burning the games would still be fairly expensive seeing as blank blu rays aren't all that cheap yet. I'm not a huge hacker or anything, so I probably don't have all my facts straight, these are just my two cents. And also, I think this move towards exclusivity either means Sony cut a check(shoulda done this for FF games), or it's hinting at an impending price cut, which would draw the favor of many devs.

   Re: Shatterdome - 2009-06-08
 » no...

You are correct...even if PS3 is hacked it would be a ***** to get games on it.

You would no doubt need to burn the games...which like you said you need expensive blank blu-rays (even more expensive if they are double layered) also you would need a dual layer blu-ray burner...not cheap. Then you have to actually download the 15-50 gig files....not good on the monthly bandwidth limit. I have 100gigs a month, which is fairly high for most providers...that could be gone really fast.
   by tobyo1 - 2009-06-08
 » >>

It's cool that it's PS3 exclusive, but this is a bad as the 360 DLC exclusivity exclusive. It looks like Sony are taking a page of out Micro$oft's book.


   Re: jrsmaster411 - 2009-06-08
 » actually

what sony is doing is helping make a new ip, rockstar might have not even made this game if they didn't have that support from sony, where as microsoft is taking content away from ps3 owners, they see theirs plans for dlc for gta 4 and then they go and pay money to take it from ps3 owners. the difference is sony is making something, and microsoft is taking something
   by telebron1 - 2009-06-08
 » Xbox

Xbox is better than PS3. PERIOD!.


   Re: HakatoX - 2009-06-08
 » hahahahahahaha

we can tell what fanboy has never touched a PS3.
after picking up a PS3 due to tiring of the RROD THREE TIMES!!!
I cant see how some one would say that kind of ignorant statement.

they each cater to a different kind of gamer...

I propose that all fanboys stop considering themselves gamers... cause they hold the industry back due to the lack of a broader perspective on the medium in the first place
   by FelisCatusLover - 2009-06-08
 » ...

YEA HOW U LIKE THAT XBOTS? YOU LIKE THAT? HOWS THAT FEEL? TELL ME, HOWS THAT FEEL? YEA, I BET IT ANGERS YOU WHEN YOU HEAR A GAME NOT COMING TO THAT OVERPRICED CONSOLE THAT CHARGES $50 A YEAR TO EVERY SiNGLE CUSTOMER!!!!

   by haru3173 - 2009-06-08
 » lol

I'd be lmfao if the game don't sell so well and R* comes crawling back to M$.


   Re: Silver-Tiger - 2009-06-08
 » ...

...And I'd be "lmafao" if it sells very well and all games are coming exclusive to PS3 from now on, so stop that stupid fanboy crap.
   by haru3173 - 2009-06-08
 » yeah right

When people post against the PS3, you obviously come and defends it and call us fanboys but when people says something bad about the 360, you support it. See the Irony?


   Re: Silver-Tiger - 2009-06-08
 » nope...

I defend the PS3, that's completely right, because there are a lot of idiots like you who spread crap and false statements about it. I don't know, probably because 360 fanboys have no arguments to support their own console.

But I bash in now way 360 owners or the console itself, I don't need to do that, I exactly know what the console has to offer, I own a Xbox 360 Pro myself.
Halo and Gears of War are great games, I really enjoyed them and I 'm planning to get Fable 2 and GeOW 2. Wouldn't make much sense bashing a console I own myself, does it?


   Re: Roopa132 - 2009-06-14
 » @ Silver-Tiger

I agree with your comment except for the last sentence: It does never make sense to bash a console. It doesn't matter whether you own it or not bashing another console is just plain stupid. Saying your opinion that you don't like the other console is ok though.

and @haru3173:
You are on a news about the PS3 and wonder why here are PS3 Fanboys? wtf?
   by Stealth! - 2009-06-08
 » Interesting

I wouldn't pass them to make this timed exclusive. but not like I care, I have a PS3 and probably play this when more info comes out.

   by Teivin - 2009-06-08
 » Hmm

Someone said it before, earlier. The primary reason to release an exclusive on a new IP isn't for some phantom 'support' (Let me state, you dont suddenly get some ++ version of the SDK just because you claim 'OMG EXCLUSIVE', or anything even remotely similar.)

You do it to keep costs down. Developing for just a single platform is more cost effective. In that end, the PS3 is probably the most cost effective because they can advertise through @home (Keeping those costs down.) while catering to a fanbase that'll buy it /simply because it's exclusive/. This could suck terribly and I think everyone I know who has a PS3 will still buy it, simply because it's for PS3 onry.

As for being a fanboy of one side or another, both sides suck. Games are games, regardless of what platform they land on. Play the good, toss the bad.


   Re: Stealth! - 2009-06-13
 » You'd

Think that the game being 360 exclusive would benefit cause it's cheaper to make money, you'll save money but you'll also gain more with the install base.
   by haru3173 - 2009-06-08
 » I don't believe you

You have proof that you got a 360? Gamertag? I have both consoles and I state my opinion about each consoles. You on the other hand thinks you know it all and bash the 360 with what you called "facts" but its all based on your opinion or the others. So don't tell me I spread false statements about the PS3 when I was merely stating my own opinion. Stop calling people fanboys when you're obviously a fanboy yourself.


   Re: Silver-Tiger - 2009-06-08
 » ....

YES, I do own a 360, but I don't need to give you my gamertag, why should I? I don't need to justify myself for a kid.
And where the hell did I state something as facts? I was merely stating that it COULD sell very well on the PS3, nothing more. don't know what you read, but I was surely not stating any "facts". The only fanbyo from us both are you. I've read a lot oof comments from you in the past weeks and they were all PS3 negative.
As i said earlier, yes, i defend the PS3, but I do the same with 360 when some stupid PS3 fanboys say crap like:" PS3 has more graphics power! Games look better on PS3!" You knwo the drill. I friendly advise them that most multiplatform games look actually better on 360, thanks to Antialiasing and an easy to develop console.

And please, let us stop here now, we are filling QJ with senseless crap.
   by potato21 - 2009-06-09
 » ps3 fail

Ps3 fails and heres why

http://www.healthmad.com/Healthcare-Industry/Euthanasia.757251


   Re: HakatoX - 2009-06-09
 » wtf does that have to do with ...

the discussion at hand.
where is there any mention of the PS3?
and most of all, why the hell do you feel the need to be a douche?
each system has something to offer for each type of gamer.
let spite a jealousy subside and realize you are acting like a person who suffers from Dropped Baby Disorder.
   by Walo - 2009-06-13
 » ...

Here are the 3 steps for exclusive development. (1.)Make an exclusive game, (2.)make it popular with the console fan base and make a good sequel or two, and then (3.)screw up the fan base and multiplatform it like a be@tch.



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