Posted Apr 02, 2008 at 02:30AM by Jay P.
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Frustrated with what Capcom's Devil May Cry 4 (PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PC) and Lost Planet: Extreme Condition had to make you go through just to play it? Well, it really is quite bothersome to install 5GB of a game to the hard disk and wait for 20 minutes for everything to finish. The reason behind this is the difference between the DVD and Blu-ray. The issue here is that both discs are treated differently by the console through reading the data found within. DVD drives read discs at varying speeds, while Blu-ray discs are read at a specific speed. So if existing DVD formats are placed into the Blu-ray, do expect to wait awhile. Imagine the size of the DVD in a Blu-ray disc being read at a constant speed. Now, in order to resolve this issue, installation has become key. If data is placed in the hard disk, it can be read at a faster rate. It does greatly reduce the amount needed for loading the game, but you have to wait out the installation process first. Another solution found to be useful is to copy a game's data on the disc over and over so that the drive has more areas to look for the same exact data. Bethesda Softworks executive producer Todd Howard confirmed the use of this technique for the upcoming title, Fallout 3 (Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC). Well, what's notable from this situation is that with Unreal Tournament 3, they have made the installation process entire optional. Even if Epic Games highly recommends doing it, they won't order or require you to. What do guys think? Feel free to comment on the space below. |
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by ~~ - 2008-04-02 |
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What I think is that people who nag about this should just shut up.
What I think is that people who nag about this should just shut up.
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2008-04-02 |
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» Your An Idiot
You shut up
You shut up
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Re: ~~ - 2008-04-02 |
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» ~~
What exactly is your problem today ?
What exactly is your problem today ?
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-02 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I agree. Especialy since MOST of the reasons people claim it's "rediculous" are made up and fictional.
Like the whole, CONSOLES SHOULD BE PLUG AND PLAY.
Installing files doesn't make the console any less plug and play! Otherwise, PSN handled that all on it's own.
I agree. Especialy since MOST of the reasons people claim it's "rediculous" are made up and fictional.
Like the whole, CONSOLES SHOULD BE PLUG AND PLAY.
Installing files doesn't make the console any less plug and play! Otherwise, PSN handled that all on it's own.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-04-03 |
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» .
Mandatory hard drive installations are no big deal, as long as there's few games that require 5gb of hard drive space. It does make it a pain if you bring the game over to play on a friend's PS3. Also 20GB PS3 owners are basically screwed because they pretty much have to upgrade the hard drive to play even a few games that require installation.
One of the few bonuses of the Wii is you'll never have to worry about installing files on the hard drive. Mostly because it sucks and can't use one that is....
Mandatory hard drive installations are no big deal, as long as there's few games that require 5gb of hard drive space. It does make it a pain if you bring the game over to play on a friend's PS3. Also 20GB PS3 owners are basically screwed because they pretty much have to upgrade the hard drive to play even a few games that require installation.
One of the few bonuses of the Wii is you'll never have to worry about installing files on the hard drive. Mostly because it sucks and can't use one that is....
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Re: Constantinecy - 2008-04-03 |
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» lol
Since when does a bonus for something sucks a-s-s? MCS you're killing me with your anti-Wii opinons !!!
Nevertheless, good point...
Since when does a bonus for something sucks a-s-s? MCS you're killing me with your anti-Wii opinons !!!
Nevertheless, good point...
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
How was that good point? It wasn't even a well thought out one! As usual.
"One of the few bonuses of the Wii is you'll never have to worry about installing files on the hard drive. Mostly because it sucks and can't use one that is...."
So because you don't like the Wii, that's why we wont have to install files on it? Something "SUCKING" can't be a technolocial reason for a feature.
How was that good point? It wasn't even a well thought out one! As usual.
"One of the few bonuses of the Wii is you'll never have to worry about installing files on the hard drive. Mostly because it sucks and can't use one that is...."
So because you don't like the Wii, that's why we wont have to install files on it? Something "SUCKING" can't be a technolocial reason for a feature.
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by yxxxx - 2008-04-02 |
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» not a problem
installation is not a problem the time that is saved by installing it rather than having to wait for it to load easily compensates for the time spent with installation.
Dont really see why people moan so much about it.
25 min one off install or 2 min wait every single load i know what i prefer
installation is not a problem the time that is saved by installing it rather than having to wait for it to load easily compensates for the time spent with installation.
Dont really see why people moan so much about it.
25 min one off install or 2 min wait every single load i know what i prefer
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by [DVSDevise] - 2008-04-02 |
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» ...
As long as it doesn't start happening on too many titles it wont be much of a problem. If you had to install every second title, you would get to the point where you're required to clean or upgrade your hard drive. Then do you keep that 5GB of DMC4 data on your drive so that if you want to play it 6 months down the track you dont need to sit through another install? And if you do need that 5GB for something else, once you've cleared it off will the install put you off playing those old games again? The install process might be ok when the game is refresh, but when it's an old title you've played personally I couldn't be f**ked.
As long as it doesn't start happening on too many titles it wont be much of a problem. If you had to install every second title, you would get to the point where you're required to clean or upgrade your hard drive. Then do you keep that 5GB of DMC4 data on your drive so that if you want to play it 6 months down the track you dont need to sit through another install? And if you do need that 5GB for something else, once you've cleared it off will the install put you off playing those old games again? The install process might be ok when the game is refresh, but when it's an old title you've played personally I couldn't be f**ked.
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by jrm125 - 2008-04-02 |
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» Required Installations suck...optional would be acceptable
While I'd prefer people not get into flaming, a few points I'd like to make:
* While I'm all for the concept of faster load times, a few things trouble me. Namely, the forced inclusion of the feature. Load times are a tricky thing. They can hamper you if too long, but at the same time, any properly optimized game should be able to load in a respectably brief time. Anyone who has played Burnout: Paradise can attest to the single load at the beginning, you won't see any more of them. A company should be able to code appropriately and then offer installation as an OPTION ONLY for those that desire even quicker loads. Then create a disc-read-only standard for online loads.
* The idea itself creates a slippery slope. Right now 5 GB isnt too much (though the 20 and 40 owners may disagree). However, nothing is really stopping game developers from going much higher, especially with the proposed increases in game and Blu-ray disc size. 5 GB is probably alright, but imagine 10 or 20....all while still requiring the disc put in ever time.
* The PC argument. Many people say the PS3 is a PC and should be accepted as one with installations. I can't subscribe to this argument. The PS3 is a game console. One of the paramount beauties of console gaming is it's quick "pick up and play" ability. Kids take games to friends' houses, pop stuff in, eject stuff, never having to think about dealing with installations, available memory, hardware restrictions, etc. The second you accept the PS3 is a PC you accept all the drawbacks of a PC. Waiting 30 minutes once at home to install may not seem so bad, but take your game to a friends' house and then accept a 30 minute wait after school or work, and things aren't so fun anymore.
Anyway, those are my main thoughts on the matter. Feel free to agree or disagree, but keep it clean. Thanks for reading.
While I'd prefer people not get into flaming, a few points I'd like to make:
* While I'm all for the concept of faster load times, a few things trouble me. Namely, the forced inclusion of the feature. Load times are a tricky thing. They can hamper you if too long, but at the same time, any properly optimized game should be able to load in a respectably brief time. Anyone who has played Burnout: Paradise can attest to the single load at the beginning, you won't see any more of them. A company should be able to code appropriately and then offer installation as an OPTION ONLY for those that desire even quicker loads. Then create a disc-read-only standard for online loads.
* The idea itself creates a slippery slope. Right now 5 GB isnt too much (though the 20 and 40 owners may disagree). However, nothing is really stopping game developers from going much higher, especially with the proposed increases in game and Blu-ray disc size. 5 GB is probably alright, but imagine 10 or 20....all while still requiring the disc put in ever time.
* The PC argument. Many people say the PS3 is a PC and should be accepted as one with installations. I can't subscribe to this argument. The PS3 is a game console. One of the paramount beauties of console gaming is it's quick "pick up and play" ability. Kids take games to friends' houses, pop stuff in, eject stuff, never having to think about dealing with installations, available memory, hardware restrictions, etc. The second you accept the PS3 is a PC you accept all the drawbacks of a PC. Waiting 30 minutes once at home to install may not seem so bad, but take your game to a friends' house and then accept a 30 minute wait after school or work, and things aren't so fun anymore.
Anyway, those are my main thoughts on the matter. Feel free to agree or disagree, but keep it clean. Thanks for reading.
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Re: lordcaptain - 2008-04-02 |
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» True... partially.
There will probably be some game where it is simply not possible to play without installing... As games get more graphically intense, the PS3 will need to load more data in the same amount of time.
So the only answer to this is really to increase data transfer speeds (something which applies to the hard drive, too)
And I disagree with the PC argument as a whole... the PC has to install programs to make it registered with the operating system and all of the drivers that the computer has, among other things. The PS3 "install" is more of a relocation of data (as I understand it). Sure, reads speeds are faster when you compare the hard drive to the CD/DVD drive, but for a PS3, it would be possible to run the game without installing, whereas with a computer, it is absolutely mandatory. I dont feel that the PC argument applies in this case because it concerns such a limited aspect of what were dealing with.
But in regards to taking it over to someones house, that exact same thing happened to me... I didnt want to install DMC4 on my uncle's PS3 because of the load times. Too much of a hassle for too short of a time.
But overall, I'd rather deal with the "install" time, because im planning on popping a 320 in there sooner or later, because i have 1 Gig left out of 60 at the moment, and most of it isnt game.
There will probably be some game where it is simply not possible to play without installing... As games get more graphically intense, the PS3 will need to load more data in the same amount of time.
So the only answer to this is really to increase data transfer speeds (something which applies to the hard drive, too)
And I disagree with the PC argument as a whole... the PC has to install programs to make it registered with the operating system and all of the drivers that the computer has, among other things. The PS3 "install" is more of a relocation of data (as I understand it). Sure, reads speeds are faster when you compare the hard drive to the CD/DVD drive, but for a PS3, it would be possible to run the game without installing, whereas with a computer, it is absolutely mandatory. I dont feel that the PC argument applies in this case because it concerns such a limited aspect of what were dealing with.
But in regards to taking it over to someones house, that exact same thing happened to me... I didnt want to install DMC4 on my uncle's PS3 because of the load times. Too much of a hassle for too short of a time.
But overall, I'd rather deal with the "install" time, because im planning on popping a 320 in there sooner or later, because i have 1 Gig left out of 60 at the moment, and most of it isnt game.
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by roca - 2008-04-02 |
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» uncharted
enough said
enough said
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Re: Manny151 - 2008-04-02 |
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» My thoughts exactly
They got the best looking PS3 game with no loading times and no install. They managed to do it and it's a technologically demanding game. There is no excuse for installs. I don't mind them personally cause I got 160GB hard drive but I'm just saying that there are alternatives. maybe naughty Dog should hold a little training camp for devs to teach them whatever their technique was. lol
They got the best looking PS3 game with no loading times and no install. They managed to do it and it's a technologically demanding game. There is no excuse for installs. I don't mind them personally cause I got 160GB hard drive but I'm just saying that there are alternatives. maybe naughty Dog should hold a little training camp for devs to teach them whatever their technique was. lol
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Re: na2rul - 2008-04-02 |
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» i was shocked
but certain.
Hope we see more of Drake and Sulli
but certain.
Hope we see more of Drake and Sulli
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Re: MisterAV - 2008-04-06 |
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» i think
I think they a little install on the hard disk on the first loading and during the game becose if you see he yellow light is always flashing, and when you stop playing it delete everything.
I think they a little install on the hard disk on the first loading and during the game becose if you see he yellow light is always flashing, and when you stop playing it delete everything.
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by ibunkun - 2008-04-02 |
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» only if i benifit from it
well , installations are ok if really benefit from them. comparision of devil may cry, from various gamingsites showed, there arent really big differences in loading times. the xbox version without install took only several seconds longer.
install should stay optional or the gamedevelopers should find solutions like streaming stuff or so.
for gods sake its a console, put in the game and play. this new direction all this stuff goes is totally wrong to me. there were times of plug n play. no installations, no patches , no DLC.
well , installations are ok if really benefit from them. comparision of devil may cry, from various gamingsites showed, there arent really big differences in loading times. the xbox version without install took only several seconds longer.
install should stay optional or the gamedevelopers should find solutions like streaming stuff or so.
for gods sake its a console, put in the game and play. this new direction all this stuff goes is totally wrong to me. there were times of plug n play. no installations, no patches , no DLC.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-04-02 |
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» times change..
were not at plug n play anymore (its just not that simple anymore). I do think they should find another solution, but for the patches and DLC, I think those should always be there (keeps the game new and bug free).
were not at plug n play anymore (its just not that simple anymore). I do think they should find another solution, but for the patches and DLC, I think those should always be there (keeps the game new and bug free).
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-02 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
The PS3 is still plug and play. Installing files doesn't negate that! You don't have to do ANYTHING but wait.
As for no difference between DMC4 on other consoles....WHY WHY WHY are you trying to compare that? That has nothing to do with it. If you want a BR drive in your console then you have to GIVE and take.
If the 360 had a BR drive you would be installing files as well!
The PS3 is still plug and play. Installing files doesn't negate that! You don't have to do ANYTHING but wait.
As for no difference between DMC4 on other consoles....WHY WHY WHY are you trying to compare that? That has nothing to do with it. If you want a BR drive in your console then you have to GIVE and take.
If the 360 had a BR drive you would be installing files as well!
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-04-03 |
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» Well
its less plug and play. I mean It's not like the N64 or gameboy how you just pop somthing in and play (like I said, games arent that simple anymore). But still its not that big of a deal waiting a couple of minutes then playing a great game with low load times.
But nothing is really plug and play anymore nowa days so I don't see why people are complaining.
its less plug and play. I mean It's not like the N64 or gameboy how you just pop somthing in and play (like I said, games arent that simple anymore). But still its not that big of a deal waiting a couple of minutes then playing a great game with low load times.
But nothing is really plug and play anymore nowa days so I don't see why people are complaining.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I still don't see your point. You put the disc in and you select it from the menu. That's as PnP as you can get unless you want to remove the menu in order to call it PnP. But if that's the case then HDD install or not these new consoles wouldn't be PnP at all so once again saying the HDD install takes away from PnP is bunk.
Aside from a button press there is NOTHING the user has to do except wait and only the first time.
So far the ONLY valid disadvantages that have been brought up are:
1. HDD space.
2. (new to this thread) Lack of time when taking your game to another console.
I still don't see your point. You put the disc in and you select it from the menu. That's as PnP as you can get unless you want to remove the menu in order to call it PnP. But if that's the case then HDD install or not these new consoles wouldn't be PnP at all so once again saying the HDD install takes away from PnP is bunk.
Aside from a button press there is NOTHING the user has to do except wait and only the first time.
So far the ONLY valid disadvantages that have been brought up are:
1. HDD space.
2. (new to this thread) Lack of time when taking your game to another console.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-04-03 |
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» How do you not see my point?
Just like how its a "disadvantage" to bring the game to a friends system and you have to wait for the install, its the same exact thing when you put the game in yours (you still have to wait).
Examples:
Just like my example before, when you pop in a gameboy game your playing right away, but the install makes you have to wait (which waiting in my book is a disadvantage). Of course it only happens the first time you put your game in but its still a disadvantage (a very small one).
Also how Dmc4 loads quicker on the ps3 compared to the 360 version. Someone said "That dosn't mean the 360 version is inferior", yet it does (Its a small difference but its better). The ps3 installing games ONCE at the start is a small time you have to wait, but its still a disadvantage.
Just like how its a "disadvantage" to bring the game to a friends system and you have to wait for the install, its the same exact thing when you put the game in yours (you still have to wait).
Examples:
Just like my example before, when you pop in a gameboy game your playing right away, but the install makes you have to wait (which waiting in my book is a disadvantage). Of course it only happens the first time you put your game in but its still a disadvantage (a very small one).
Also how Dmc4 loads quicker on the ps3 compared to the 360 version. Someone said "That dosn't mean the 360 version is inferior", yet it does (Its a small difference but its better). The ps3 installing games ONCE at the start is a small time you have to wait, but its still a disadvantage.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Just like how its a "disadvantage" to bring the game to a friends system and you have to wait for the install, its the same exact thing when you put the game in yours (you still have to wait)."
See the word you quoted? That word has a meaning. That words meaning is not, "to make less PnP". Just because something is a disadvantage (TO YOU), doesn't mean it's making something less or not PnP. The console is still 100% PnP. Plug it in, put in your game, play it. If you want to argue that pressing ONE EXTRA BUTTON is making the PS3 less or not PnP then be prepared to be disagreed with by a massive amount of people.
"Just like my example before, when you pop in a gameboy game"
Yeah, I addressed that. I also asked you a question about it's intent. Are you trying to use that example to show that a cart loads a game and a game only and instantly? Like I said, if that's your example then the PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii, PSP...any other console with a menu, ACCORDING TO YOU, is not PnP. With that said, HDD loading has NOTHING to do with these units not being PnP at that point. They already weren't PnP based on your "example".
"Just like how its a "disadvantage" to bring the game to a friends system and you have to wait for the install, its the same exact thing when you put the game in yours (you still have to wait)."
See the word you quoted? That word has a meaning. That words meaning is not, "to make less PnP". Just because something is a disadvantage (TO YOU), doesn't mean it's making something less or not PnP. The console is still 100% PnP. Plug it in, put in your game, play it. If you want to argue that pressing ONE EXTRA BUTTON is making the PS3 less or not PnP then be prepared to be disagreed with by a massive amount of people.
"Just like my example before, when you pop in a gameboy game"
Yeah, I addressed that. I also asked you a question about it's intent. Are you trying to use that example to show that a cart loads a game and a game only and instantly? Like I said, if that's your example then the PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii, PSP...any other console with a menu, ACCORDING TO YOU, is not PnP. With that said, HDD loading has NOTHING to do with these units not being PnP at that point. They already weren't PnP based on your "example".
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2008-04-03 |
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if that's your example then the PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii, PSP...any other console with a menu, ACCORDING TO YOU, is not PnP. With that said, HDD loading has NOTHING to do with these units not being PnP at that point. They already weren't PnP based on your "example".
I never said anything about menu's, so I'm not really sure where you got that from. If you read my last couple of posts I'm saying that you have to wait to install (and I'm pretty sure if you bought your favorite game and had to wait 20min. for an install you'd think its a dissadvantage also, along with a lot of people).
"If you want to argue that pressing ONE EXTRA BUTTON is making the PS3 less or not PnP then be prepared to be disagreed with by a massive amount of people."
See I never really said anything about pressing a button, its more about waiting to get into your game once you get it. Of course like I keep saying it only happens once, but that one time that it does is less PnP than others (a small difference is still a difference).
if that's your example then the PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii, PSP...any other console with a menu, ACCORDING TO YOU, is not PnP. With that said, HDD loading has NOTHING to do with these units not being PnP at that point. They already weren't PnP based on your "example".
I never said anything about menu's, so I'm not really sure where you got that from. If you read my last couple of posts I'm saying that you have to wait to install (and I'm pretty sure if you bought your favorite game and had to wait 20min. for an install you'd think its a dissadvantage also, along with a lot of people).
"If you want to argue that pressing ONE EXTRA BUTTON is making the PS3 less or not PnP then be prepared to be disagreed with by a massive amount of people."
See I never really said anything about pressing a button, its more about waiting to get into your game once you get it. Of course like I keep saying it only happens once, but that one time that it does is less PnP than others (a small difference is still a difference).
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-04-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"I never said anything about menu's, so I'm not really sure where you got that from."
Because you are trying to give an apple as an example of an orange and the only way to make ends meet is bring up the seeds. The play scheme difference between a GB and PS3 is the fact that one of them has no menu system. Turn on the GB and poof you are in the game. Turn on the PS3 and you first have to select the game.
"If you read my last couple of posts I'm saying that you have to wait to install (and I'm pretty sure if you bought your favorite game and had to wait 20min. for an install you'd think its a disadvantage also, along with a lot of people)."
You just did it again! You are now using the word "disadvantage" over and over and over again instead of the term PnP.
No, I don't think it is. But then again I can afford a new HDD if I plan to have TONS of games loaded at the same time.
The biggest problem is, people are used to what they HAD. They don't realize the PS3 is something DIFFERENT. It's a REAL NextGen unit. Unlike the Xbox v1.5 (360). When the next Xbox is released with a real HD drive people are going to quickly realize that gaming is changing and they HAVE TO treat their gaming experiences differently.
"but that one time that it does is less PnP than others"
Do you even know what PnP is? PnP does NOT in ANYWAY refer to wait times. PnP play means NO configuration, NO setup, NO user input. Waiting for files to copy (of which you don't even have to do anything to start) is NO MEASURE of PnP.
Fact - when you put your game in and tell it to play....pause.....it plays. ZERO setup.
The fact that the game AUTO installs itself is the VERY definition of PnP.
You plug it in, do NOTHING and it plays.
Just because you find the initial wait time a disadvantage doesn't do anything to negate the fact that the PS3 is PnP.
You can't use the word disadvantage to negate PnP.
"I never said anything about menu's, so I'm not really sure where you got that from."
Because you are trying to give an apple as an example of an orange and the only way to make ends meet is bring up the seeds. The play scheme difference between a GB and PS3 is the fact that one of them has no menu system. Turn on the GB and poof you are in the game. Turn on the PS3 and you first have to select the game.
"If you read my last couple of posts I'm saying that you have to wait to install (and I'm pretty sure if you bought your favorite game and had to wait 20min. for an install you'd think its a disadvantage also, along with a lot of people)."
You just did it again! You are now using the word "disadvantage" over and over and over again instead of the term PnP.
No, I don't think it is. But then again I can afford a new HDD if I plan to have TONS of games loaded at the same time.
The biggest problem is, people are used to what they HAD. They don't realize the PS3 is something DIFFERENT. It's a REAL NextGen unit. Unlike the Xbox v1.5 (360). When the next Xbox is released with a real HD drive people are going to quickly realize that gaming is changing and they HAVE TO treat their gaming experiences differently.
"but that one time that it does is less PnP than others"
Do you even know what PnP is? PnP does NOT in ANYWAY refer to wait times. PnP play means NO configuration, NO setup, NO user input. Waiting for files to copy (of which you don't even have to do anything to start) is NO MEASURE of PnP.
Fact - when you put your game in and tell it to play....pause.....it plays. ZERO setup.
The fact that the game AUTO installs itself is the VERY definition of PnP.
You plug it in, do NOTHING and it plays.
Just because you find the initial wait time a disadvantage doesn't do anything to negate the fact that the PS3 is PnP.
You can't use the word disadvantage to negate PnP.
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by platon - 2008-04-02 |
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» Optionnal is the best
Still, I LOVE to install a game, I mean, I installed dynasty warriors 6 from the options because I wanted the game to load faster and I almost never see a loading screen. I think that the install feature is ZE BEST and it should be used non stop if it can reduce, or even DESTROY loading screens, like in DMC4 (not destroyed, but almost).
And for the guys that think plug n play is the best: WHAT THE HEL? I'm more into installing a game for 1 min instead of waiting 5 sec more for each of those billbions of loading time. Especially for games like DW6, that you don't HAVE to install, so it's just a super cool option.
ps: With a minute install, you can save hours of loadings, lol. I mean, maybe not on any games, but for big games, it's a must.
pps: It's a stupid topic Jay P., Qj is just posting this since they don't have enough news and they know everybody is flaming on this topic... sigh... and the stupid is me, who's commenting this, lol.
Still, I LOVE to install a game, I mean, I installed dynasty warriors 6 from the options because I wanted the game to load faster and I almost never see a loading screen. I think that the install feature is ZE BEST and it should be used non stop if it can reduce, or even DESTROY loading screens, like in DMC4 (not destroyed, but almost).
And for the guys that think plug n play is the best: WHAT THE HEL? I'm more into installing a game for 1 min instead of waiting 5 sec more for each of those billbions of loading time. Especially for games like DW6, that you don't HAVE to install, so it's just a super cool option.
ps: With a minute install, you can save hours of loadings, lol. I mean, maybe not on any games, but for big games, it's a must.
pps: It's a stupid topic Jay P., Qj is just posting this since they don't have enough news and they know everybody is flaming on this topic... sigh... and the stupid is me, who's commenting this, lol.
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by mog386 - 2008-04-03 |
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» complaints are nil
ok, for you people who might not be as old as i am ( i can't believe i just called myself that), PC's used to plug and play as well, the old 286/DOS days, i remember popping in a 5 and 1/4 inch disk, typing blah blah.exe, running the game, and 10-20 minutes into the game having to either turn the disk over or inserting a new disk, those days were so annoying compared to now.
Also for you people who are giving the classic example of a kid going over to his friends house. When was the last time you ever saw a kid go over to his friends house for 20 minutes or less. Human beings are multitaskers. While the kids are waiting for the game to install they will go on youtube or some other site or they will chat and talk. Or eat something. and when they are done they will play the game. It truly isn't that big of a deal.
ok, for you people who might not be as old as i am ( i can't believe i just called myself that), PC's used to plug and play as well, the old 286/DOS days, i remember popping in a 5 and 1/4 inch disk, typing blah blah.exe, running the game, and 10-20 minutes into the game having to either turn the disk over or inserting a new disk, those days were so annoying compared to now.
Also for you people who are giving the classic example of a kid going over to his friends house. When was the last time you ever saw a kid go over to his friends house for 20 minutes or less. Human beings are multitaskers. While the kids are waiting for the game to install they will go on youtube or some other site or they will chat and talk. Or eat something. and when they are done they will play the game. It truly isn't that big of a deal.
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